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    Ellsworth Dare

    Hello Everyone, I just purchased this Ellsworth Dare frame and i cant seem to find out the model year of it. I think the rear shock used to be a romic but the last owner replaced it with this Fox Rc. Any help?
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    03ish?

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    uh oh

    Scope it for cracks. I'm not kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largextracheese
    Scope it for cracks. I'm not kidding.
    why do you say that?
    I inspected it before i bought it. Its in perfect condition. Its already handled one mammoth trip with out any problems.

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    I'm only joking

    I think the older models had problems with crackage. I've been shredding with three friends with the 04/05 Dares the past few seasons and they love'em and they seem to be lasting. Good luck!

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    I'm sure you'd inspect this frame as you would any other frame you'd buy...

    But really, don't listen to LargeXC, although he's a good friend he loves to rip on Ellsworth because I have two '05 Dare frames and sometimes he feels a bit "inadequate" when I'm around

    FYI, Ellsworth didn't "officially" produce an '03 Dare frame... they modified the frame for '04 and once again or '05... '06 and '07 were back in hiatus but seems like they may introduce it for '08... but who knows, since the only people riding the latest version of the Dare are the folks on the Maxxis/Ellsworth team...

    Your frame looks to be an '02 with a newer shock-stay swingarm and the cross country version of the chain-stay swingarm. Ellsworth offered a DH version of the swingarm for more heavy duty riding, but as we all now know, the DH chain-stay does not allow for a front derailleur - this is FYI - so, make sure you keep this in mind before you go taking this frame off your granny's rooftop repeatedly...

    If you can manage to keep up on the pivot bolts/bearings like you woudl with any other frame, and are not a trail-butcher like LXC the bike should last a good while... these are pretty solid frames !

    Here's a pic of my DareDH about to do a little Whistler XC a week ago during Crankworx Saturday while everyone was fighting the lines at the Bike Park...
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    uh huh

    ..and keep alot of zipties and duct tape handy in your pack! Armando, what is that trail called?

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    Thanks for your help armando. How big is the difference between the cross country chainstay and the dh one. Id like to get the dh one somehow. But i cant complain about anything on the frame. I bought it for 300, the guy was in desperate need of some cash. By the way i love ur bike. I like the anodized blue better than the black.

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    300!

    He must have been a crack smoker lookin for a fix! Good price!

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    I'm pretty certain that you can use the latest version of Ellsworth's asymmetrical chainstays for that model of Dare you have. This newer style of chainstay is definitely stronger than the XC chainstay they offered years ago, but the newer model also allows for a front derailleur.
    Be prepared to spend some cash, new frame components and replacement parts are pricey.

    LXC, the entrance of the trail you see in the background of the pic I posted is the beginning of "River Runs Through It" across the valley from the Whistler Bike Park. This was a warm up to Cheap Thrills and other valley trails we rode while the lifts were jammed during Slopestyle Saturday.
    Definitely not as easy to climb around on a 38 tooth chainring but sooo much fun !
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    LXC, the entrance of the trail you see in the background of the pic I posted is the beginning of "River Runs Through It" across the valley from the Whistler Bike Park. This was a warm up to Cheap Thrills and other valley trails we rode while the lifts were jammed during Slopestyle Saturday.
    Definitely not as easy to climb around on a 38 tooth chainring but sooo much fun !
    LXC wouldn't know because, like so many others, he's never taken his bike out of the park despite riding up there 30+ days per year. I mean why do that when you can hit the same exact trails over and over and over and over again??

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    Luke is riding his Turner DHR again, don't know why or what happened. Didn't ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largextracheese
    I think the older models had problems with crackage. I've been shredding with three friends with the 04/05 Dares the past few seasons and they love'em and they seem to be lasting. Good luck!
    3 weeks ago I saw a brand spankin new Rogue (similar design, same manufacturer) come into the shop w/ a snapped rear stay right on the weld above the drop out. Kid said he rode the bike twice before the failure. Just sayin...... Don't mean to worry the kid about his new bike though, but keep an eye on it just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRUFF
    Luke is riding his Turner DHR again, don't know why or what happened. Didn't ask.
    Huh? I thought team maxxis were all on Dare's? You sure about that Ruff?

    If that's the case, then I'd suspect Maxxis isn't working with Ellsworth again or he's not on the team maxxis anymore? I highly doubt the latter of those however, since he's the top american in the world cup standings and just took 2nd in the US championships at Mt. Snow.

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    Luke is still on Maxxis and Ells is still the frame sponsor. He has however been riding an old Turner for quite a while though (look at photos of the last couple world cups).

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    Dave nailed it. I know he was riding them. He was riding an Ephinany 4x bike for xc. Maybe it's just for dhing. I can inquire more, but don't want anyone to get in trouble.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    I'm pretty certain that you can use the latest version of Ellsworth's asymmetrical chainstays for that model of Dare you have. This newer style of chainstay is definitely stronger than the XC chainstay they offered years ago, but the newer model also allows for a front derailleur.
    Be prepared to spend some cash, new frame components and replacement parts are pricey.

    LXC, the entrance of the trail you see in the background of the pic I posted is the beginning of "River Runs Through It" across the valley from the Whistler Bike Park. This was a warm up to Cheap Thrills and other valley trails we rode while the lifts were jammed during Slopestyle Saturday.
    Definitely not as easy to climb around on a 38 tooth chainring but sooo much fun !
    Heres a pic of my dare. ive got all my old stuff from my old frame on it until i can get some cash. Ive got the front derailleur on there and it seems to work fine probably because of the xc chainstay.

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    nice bike....I always thought it was the Turners with that problem (preparing for flames from the turner crowd)
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    I'm sure you'd inspect this frame as you would any other frame you'd buy...

    But really, don't listen to LargeXC, although he's a good friend he loves to rip on Ellsworth because I have two '05 Dare frames and sometimes he feels a bit "inadequate" when I'm around

    FYI, Ellsworth didn't "officially" produce an '03 Dare frame... they modified the frame for '04 and once again or '05... '06 and '07 were back in hiatus but seems like they may introduce it for '08... but who knows, since the only people riding the latest version of the Dare are the folks on the Maxxis/Ellsworth team...

    Your frame looks to be an '02 with a newer shock-stay swingarm and the cross country version of the chain-stay swingarm. Ellsworth offered a DH version of the swingarm for more heavy duty riding, but as we all now know, the DH chain-stay does not allow for a front derailleur - this is FYI - so, make sure you keep this in mind before you go taking this frame off your granny's rooftop repeatedly...

    If you can manage to keep up on the pivot bolts/bearings like you woudl with any other frame, and are not a trail-butcher like LXC the bike should last a good while... these are pretty solid frames !

    Here's a pic of my DareDH about to do a little Whistler XC a week ago during Crankworx Saturday while everyone was fighting the lines at the Bike Park...

    is that the Dare Josh Bender used?
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    I think it's best to abstain from speculating but would be good to hear whether or not Luke's been happy with the Dare ?!
    I had a great ride today on mine
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