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    Blackspire Stinger - some dragging normal?

    Bike setup is a 2005 Kona Coiler, presumably a 68mm bottom bracket. Crankset is an FSA Moto-X dual ring with a bash. In the granny gear the chain drags against the side of the bracket just above the roller. It's not an extreme amount of drag, but you can hear it a little which is annoying. Is this normal, or am I set up incorrectly? I have one spacer between the frame and the stinger.

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    I have a Stinger on my Enduro and I'm pretty sure mine slightly rubs in the small ring up from similar to yours. Like you said it isn't a lot but enough to be annoying. I think if you take the spacer out the guide mine be shifter too far "in". My solution was force my legs to be stronger and keep it in the big ring more.
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    Yeah I don't ride in the granny a ton anyway, it would just be nice to not have it annoy the fawk out of me when I do. You're right on the spacer.. if I take it out to reposition it I believe it will be too far in and have incorrect spacing. Maybe it's just something I'll have to deal with. Considering how inexpensive this thing is and how well I *think* it's going to work for me I'll just quit my complaining.

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    Grind/sand a little bit of material out!

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    That just seems kinda lame that I have to mangle a brand new part just to create a little clearance.

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    The Blackspire Stinger is designed to fit a wide range of bikes and cranksets and sometimes they do not line up as they should.

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    The issue isn't with my bike though, there are no complications with the swingarm or anything. The issue is with my FSA crankset I guess. I wonder if I could make a couple of really thin shims to space it out a bit?

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    I would just sand the Blackspire.. putting some shims may affect your shifting

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    I just bent mine a tad

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    Did the same as nick, a little custom bending and all is right with the world. At least until I drag it across another rock or log...
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    Mine rubs too in granny, but it doesn't bother me much and I'm too lazy to fiddle with it.

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    Longer bb spindle. I believe this to be the correct solution.

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    They do make 1mm bb shims, so I guess you could +/- shim it for some extra clearance, but really, it would be easier just to swap the position of the 5mm shim and the stinger and run the Stinger more inward. But doing this might affect the chains ability to jump onto the top portion of the roller when in granny. You won't know till you try.

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    I run one on an '06 Coiler with RF Evolve DH cranks and don't have any problems.

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    change the spacers. get some that are thinner
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    Mine rubbed for a while until the chain finally made it's own path. This was after I had the LBS fix the cranks 3 times. Then somone finally realized the Race Face Cranks were missing a bolt that holds it all together. I was blaming the Black Spire up to that point. Now everything works great.

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    I'm definitely not missing any bolts, lol.

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    I have an E-13 and it rubs a little aswell. I had to use a dremel to take some meterial out. The Blackspire is better in my OP for price and function.

    And as 1 poster has already said, they are designed to work on a VERY wide variety of bikes there fore the fit will not be perfect for EVERY bike, so that just something to ponder when bashing the balls out of a product.

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    My E-13 works great on my 05 Coiler. I had a little rub when I first set it up, up I added a spacer and it has been fine since then. No rub and it has never dropped the chain!

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    Actually I should also add that it does depend on the model bike aswell...

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    Did you put the bb spacer on the inside (frame side) or outside of the plate?
    The ones I have installed have the spacer on the outside and don't rub.

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    just bend it out a tad. it says right on the directions it was designed to do so... I did it it is perfect.

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    You got directions with yours? Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuncle
    You got directions with yours? Nice!
    WOW!!! I didn't think those existed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrumble69
    Did you put the bb spacer on the inside (frame side) or outside of the plate?
    The ones I have installed have the spacer on the outside and don't rub.

    You adjust the spacers depending on what model crankset you have, and the size of your bottom bracket. Apparently different cranksets have different chainlines and such. Mine is run the way it says to run it in the instructions, with the spacer between the frame and the the guide. That's what it recommends for a 68mm BB unless I read the directions wrong. Maybe I should try it the other way around? It might solve my problem. Maybe I'll give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim311
    You adjust the spacers depending on what model crankset you have, and the size of your bottom bracket. Apparently different cranksets have different chainlines and such. Mine is run the way it says to run it in the instructions, with the spacer between the frame and the the guide. That's what it recommends for a 68mm BB unless I read the directions wrong. Maybe I should try it the other way around? It might solve my problem. Maybe I'll give it a go.
    Sorry I should have been more specific.
    You are right It would depend on the cranks and bb you are using.
    The last one I installed was on a 05 Kona Stinky with a ISIS bb.
    I used the spacer on the outside of the plate and had no rubbing issues.

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