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    Best freeride frame suggestions

    Does anyone have options about the best freeride frame? I have been considering many frames but have boiled it down to a Turner Highline, Cove STD, or a Knolly Delirium. I want a frame that will descend like a DH bike but could still climb. I want the build to be sub 40lbs. Any ideas?

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    It will soon be the TBC TR 450...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedal Shop
    It will soon be the TBC TR 450...
    No offense but how does a long, low and super slack DH race frame qualify as the best FR frame that can still climb? All three that he named would be better for that application IMO.

    The three that you've listed would all be great for what you're looking to do. I love the STD that I'm on right now, it's versatile albeit a tiny bit heavy. The Giant Reign X would also be a great choice as would the Corsair Maelstrom. There are a ton of great choices out there and in my opinion you should avoid a DH race oriented frame if you plan on tackling climbs.

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    for you? hmm? I think a recumbent would work well.

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    Banshee Scythe - travel adjust 7 or 8 inches. Great price point too. Full length seat tube geo can change for riding type. Plus it looks sick.l, especially in the new green color.

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    That was my goal as well....I ended up with a Morewood Zuza with a "DH-build" (Boxxer Race 2010, Codes, Saint cranks - 39.6lbs). It has a straight seattube, takes a front deraileur, and in terms of geometry, pretty much spot on for versatile, all-around duty (sits at about 66 degree headangle with the Boxxer up front). It can be pedalled up (I run it with dual ring cranks 22t/36t), and ripped back down

    The only minor inconvenience (may not be for you) is that it is a bit short in the TT - which you either like or don't. Other than that, it's been everything I expected from it. Jumps well, rails corners, overall very neutral yet agile handling (does NOT feel all flip-floppy like a true DH bike will in tight turns etc)....it sounds like it would do really well for what you are looking for. Unhelpful I know, since you have a short list already...
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    i'm really diggin the new intense slopestyle. I rocked a bottlerocket this last year, and just have the itch for an inch more travel. something with a 36, roco air, slx crankset, elixir cr, x9 front and rear, drs chainguide, king to 823, and deity everything else. I think it would be the most amazing freeride bike ever, and would weigh in the low 30s. You could even throw a gravity dropper and it would still be amazingly low

    and totally agree about the tr...it's def not a freeride bike. one run on that convinced me that, but also that it's the nicest dh bike i've ever ridden in my life. I can't wait to pick it up in a few weeks. the thing is just super nimble and low. kinda like how if you have a bottlerocket you prefer to ride it over bigger bikes even with the 5.5 inches of travel. It was immediately super comfortable. i was blown away
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    If it were me I would be seriously lookin at the Reign X, it might be a lil shy on travel for you, I have a DH rig already though. Ive seen a couple of guys at GoRides Reign X builds and was drooling all over myself, their counter and bikes.

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    Haven't tried a Cove or Knolly, but this thing climbs almost as good as my RFX, even with the 40. 42# with a not particularly light build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpearson
    i'm really diggin the new intense slopestyle. I rocked a bottlerocket this last year, and just have the itch for an inch more travel. something with a 36, roco air, slx crankset, elixir cr, x9 front and rear, drs chainguide, Hadley to 823, and deity everything else. I think it would be the most amazing freeride bike ever, and would weigh in the low 30s. You could even throw a gravity dropper and it would still be amazingly low

    and totally agree about the tr...it's def not a freeride bike. one run on that convinced me that, but also that it's the nicest dh bike i've ever ridden in my life. I can't wait to pick it up in a few weeks. the thing is just super nimble and low. kinda like how if you have a bottlerocket you prefer to ride it over bigger bikes even with the 5.5 inches of travel. It was immediately super comfortable. i was blown away
    low 30's and that would be cool
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    Knolly

    VTach has won the MTBR best FR bike award 2005-2009. The Delirium design is a 'lightened' VTach frameset. I'll let you take it from there.

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    For the OP sub 40 target the V-tach would be tough. I throw a vote for the new Delirium. Will be built up easily 35ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    low 30's and that would be cool
    Alright, just threw the build together...pretty straightforward, Fox 36 Talas, DHX Air(i'd want propedal), King to FR600(Way better than hadley and i even used to only use hadley), X.0, Slx crankset with E-13 DRS, Elixir CR 185, CB Acid 2, Atlas Bars, Thomson stem, Gravity Dropper 4in, I-Fly Saddle, Small Block 8 2.35...even with adding a pound for just whatever wasn't perfect with the stated weights, it's looks like a 29.7 pound bike. I hope i can put some money together after i get my TR done and get this bike built.

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    I think the best FR frame made is the Knolly VTach. However, out of your 3 I would pick the Highline; those things are damn nice bikes as well.

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    I have to say the Vtach is the most solid bike I have ever ridden. I rode just after riding a highline and the Vtach was the better bike in every category with the exception of weight. That being said I own neither and am currently VERY happy with my 09 SX Trail. Climbs pretty good and is a blast going back down.
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    Hows about the new 2010 giant faith? Seems to fit what your looking for perfectly

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmpearson
    i'm really diggin the new intense slopestyle. I rocked a bottlerocket this last year, and just have the itch for an inch more travel. something with a 36, roco air, slx crankset, elixir cr, x9 front and rear, drs chainguide, king to 823, and deity everything else. I think it would be the most amazing freeride bike ever, and would weigh in the low 30s. You could even throw a gravity dropper and it would still be amazingly low

    and totally agree about the tr...it's def not a freeride bike. one run on that convinced me that, but also that it's the nicest dh bike i've ever ridden in my life. I can't wait to pick it up in a few weeks. the thing is just super nimble and low. kinda like how if you have a bottlerocket you prefer to ride it over bigger bikes even with the 5.5 inches of travel. It was immediately super comfortable. i was blown away
    They are making it very obvious on the intense forum that the slopestyle is not made to be pedalled uphill. the interupted seat tube and very slack seat tube angle and no front der options make it obvious. Its a point of contention with people who own the older slopestyles and want to pedal uphill. Maybe consider an older slopestlye though. i miss mine.

    on a side note, Nate when you TR450 comes in and the weather clears i want to try it out. There is soooo much internet hype on that bike that it better be the best DH bike ever made. Im not saying its not going to be awesome but it would be interesting to ride it side by side with my jedi. Im always trying to find the next bike that will replace my jedi when it wears out but haven't been able to find one that i like more yet.

    To the OP
    all of the bikes you have listed would work great and with a well thought out build you could easily get them all under 40 lbs. here are some other frames you could consider

    Intense uzzi
    transition blindside
    New turner highline (2011 maybe?)
    corsair maelstrom
    a few different nicolai bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbingbubba
    They are making it very obvious on the intense forum that the slopestyle is not made to be pedalled uphill. the interupted seat tube and very slack seat tube angle and no front der options make it obvious. Its a point of contention with people who own the older slopestyles and want to pedal uphill. Maybe consider an older slopestlye though. i miss mine.

    on a side note, Nate when you TR450 comes in and the weather clears i want to try it out. There is soooo much internet hype on that bike that it better be the best DH bike ever made. Im not saying its not going to be awesome but it would be interesting to ride it side by side with my jedi. Im always trying to find the next bike that will replace my jedi when it wears out but haven't been able to find one that i like more yet.
    yeah i know they're making it very obvious...i'm not saying i want to do xc on it, but there's a few trails around here(i'll take you sometime) that need like 3 miles of pedaling up, then there's like 4 miles of just flowy, amazing downhill. With a 30 pound 6 in travel slack bike, i think it could be the most amazing thing ever. I'm not sure what it would be like, it's just something that if it could be done, i'd love to do it. It's just kinda an experiment to do e-type derailleur with drs guide, gravity dropper, dhx air so we can have propedal. This would only be done if we do end up picking up intense(we're talking to them), and it would be jamies bike. We're all just getting way more into pedaling just for pure athleticism and we feel it could be better than the covert, which we just loved. I'd love to get your imput if we end up going with intense and doing an ss as a demo bike. You're one of the other super thinkers as far as components in utah, and would love some opinions

    As far as the TR, i've only had a few min on it, and it was astounding to me. Now, to put it in perspective, The two bikes i spent time on last year that i thought were the best were both the jedi and the session. The both kinda felt the same to me, but to be honest, i thought the session felt more together. Now, the one i rode needed a good tune, so i kinda felt it was at a disadvantage, but i think your jedi and the session i rode would both just be amazing. i don't really love dh bikes, just because i'm more of a flowy wide open cornering kinda kinda rider but when i jumped on the TR, i just was blown away by the feeling that it was just the most nimble dh bike ever. I think that with the proper suspension, these newly designed linkage driven bikes are gonna perform as well as the jedi. I have a Elka on order, which transition said they didn't advise, but elka is confident it'll be better(i have no reason to think otherwise). I just don't really like the RC4, and i think the elka will really keep it planted. There are some haters on this part of utah. Basically, everyone i've talked to hates it for no apparent reason. I think a ton of us are gonna go out and try each others bikes out. So far i have race demos, sessions, 951s, and then colton/spencer on their jedis. so i'll let you know, and if you can't make it, i'll just go ride with you. My stack is going to be very low, esp with the boxxer on it, and the rest of the build should be very light...so it may not be your style, but i just don't want a plow bike. i'd rather have a nimble, not fully race bike. The suspension will be more stiff. But the build right now is, Boxxer Team, Elka, Saint brakes(never tried them and am interested) and cranks, king to some rim(not sure, maybe 729), Atlas bar(31's baby!) and direct mount(i somehow like it better than my twenty6 direct mount), Deity pedals, Kenda rubber, x9 drivetrain, SRS chainguide. I'm so excited. I think i'm getting the white/red frame(i'm picking it up, so i may end up with a white/yellow)...so yeah, it'll be done hopefully by end of january.

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    Cove STD all the way!

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    canfeild can can or can digle perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StinkyOne
    That being said I own neither and am currently VERY happy with my 09 SX Trail. Climbs pretty good and is a blast going back down.
    +1 SX Trail.
    I have a 2010 and pedal it up a few miles at a time to go down..Lovin' it..

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    All of these threads boils down to SX Trails. They are THE freeride bike for the application you are after. Just get one and be happy.
    Swedish trail/AM/Enduro/DH-rider - Currently rides Spitfire V2 & Devinci Wilson SL. Spending the summer 2013 in Whistler, BC.

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    I personally would pick up a santa cruz bullit. They are a bit heavy but are worth it. You can build them up any way that you want.

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    If you have the dollas, I would go with the STD. That bike pretty much blows everything out of the water as a freeride bike. If you can get a hold of a Brodie Damien frame, which I ride, you should get that too, super sick!! I know where to get one too

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-line
    If you have the dollas, I would go with the STD. That bike pretty much blows everything out of the water as a freeride bike.
    i don't agree with this statement. It's a nice bike, just not worth the money at all. to me all the std was a slower blindside. It's too expensive, too heavy, and unless theres an elka on it, i don't even like the suspension feel. The elka was the amazing redeeming quality of the bike...not the frame. get something more nimble

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    Ellsworth Rogue 8". I ride it on everything from 20 mile cross country runs to climbing the top of my favorite trail (National) to taking it to my favorite shuttle assisted downhill runs. The Ellsworth Rogue can do it all!!
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