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    Best choice for first DH

    So I think I've narrowed down my bike choices to:
    2004 Tomac 204 Magnum -$950-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/600651/
    ------06 Manitou dorado
    ------Fox vanilla Rc
    ------XT shifter and derailer
    ------Brand new deetrax front wheel

    2005 Norco a-line-$1200-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/486360/
    ------08 Marzocchi 888
    ------Fox DHX3.0
    ------X7 derailer
    ------Formula hubs

    2005 SC V10-$1300-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/620167/
    ------08 Marzocchi 888 RCV
    ------Fox DHX 5.0
    ------Shimano M800 Saint brakes
    ------X7 shifter, X9 derailer
    ------DT E540 rims

    2004 Cove peeler-$1000-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/368941/
    ------05 888
    ------Fox DHX 5.0
    ------Magura louis FR brakes
    ------X9 shifter and derailer
    ------Deore rear laced to a singletrack

    I come from a BMX background and intend on doing some collegiate racing. $1300 is the most I'm willing to spend (what I just sold my dirt bike for). I'm leaning toward the tomac, but I've read bad thing about the rear hub-- high maintenance and hard to replace. Also, the tomac is local and I've ridden it, where as the others would need to be shipped to me. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by /|\
    So I think I've narrowed down my bike choices to:
    2004 Tomac 204 Magnum -$950-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/600651/
    ------06 Manitou dorado
    ------Fox vanilla Rc
    ------XT shifter and derailer
    ------Brand new deetrax front wheel ( fork will take a lot of maintenance, RC is an old shock. Never really liked single pivots frames Bike design is really old)

    2005 Norco a-line-$1200-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/486360/
    ------08 Marzocchi 888
    ------Fox DHX3.0
    ------X7 derailer
    ------Formula hubs
    Bad year for the fork (some work great and a few had problems (unjustly magnified). Frame has good FSR suspension...low end shock an I don't like Fox anyway)

    2005 SC V10-$1300-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/620167/
    ------08 Marzocchi 888 RCV
    ------Fox DHX 5.0
    ------Shimano M800 Saint brakes
    ------X7 shifter, X9 derailer
    ------DT E540 rims......
    (great brakes, shifting, again fork can be hit and miss)

    2004 Cove peeler-$1000-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/368941/
    ------05 888
    ------Fox DHX 5.0
    ------Magura louis FR brakes
    ------X9 shifter and derailer
    ------Deore rear laced to a singletrack (an outdated frame sdesign that will be hell going through rock gardens (see Tomac) X9's are great, brakes good, )

    I come from a BMX background and intend on doing some collegiate racing. $1300 is the most I'm willing to spend (what I just sold my dirt bike for). I'm leaning toward the tomac, but I've read bad thing about the rear hub-- high maintenance and hard to replace. Also, the tomac is local and I've ridden it, where as the others would need to be shipped to me. What do you think?
    The Cove and Tomac are pretty much the same bike with the Cove having better components. I wouldn't buy either.

    I would choose between the Norco and V-10....helping my choice would be which bike looks fresher and least abused and I would try and get a better deal on each one...hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by /|\
    So I think I've narrowed down my bike choices to:
    2004 Tomac 204 Magnum -$950-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/600651/
    ------06 Manitou dorado
    ------Fox vanilla Rc
    ------XT shifter and derailer
    ------Brand new deetrax front wheel
    Great frame really durable. Unfortunately all those rear hubs went bad and there is no replacement. 06 Dorado has the same problem with no replacement partss and most of them are trashed.

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    2005 Norco a-line-$1200-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/486360/
    ------08 Marzocchi 888
    ------Fox DHX3.0
    ------X7 derailer
    ------Formula hubs
    Looks like a solid deal with a good fork and reliable shock. I don't personally know much about the 2005 A-line but I've heard they had breakage problems.

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    2005 SC V10-$1300-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/620167/
    ------08 Marzocchi 888 RCV
    ------Fox DHX 5.0
    ------Shimano M800 Saint brakes
    ------X7 shifter, X9 derailer
    ------DT E540 rims
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    You don't hear about too many V10s breaking, but they develop a lot of play in the linkages over time. Sometimes it can be fixed with fresh bearings, but often the frame has issues from being ridden with loose bearings. The 888 RCV and Fox DHX are solid suspension components.

    2004 Cove peeler-$1000-http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/368941/
    ------05 888
    ------Fox DHX 5.0
    ------Magura louis FR brakes
    ------X9 shifter and derailer
    ------Deore rear laced to a singletrack
    That Cover Peeler frame is very bomber built and should still be running great. The DHX 5 is reliable and the 05 888 was an awesome fork. The problem with the 888 is that Marz no longer has damper parts for it and most of them need them after a few years.

    If all the bikes are in similar overall condition i'd go with the Peeler for durability and hope the 888 is in good working order.
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    I know budget is a big thing respect that.

    But buying 5-6yr old Dh bikes and components is imo not such a good thing and if ya do then really check em out as it could cost you allot if things are not in tip top shape, I'm talking worn ot parts and bearings etc, some of that stuff is no longer supported and maybe hard to get and expensive.

    Somtimes it pays to buy second hand a little newer, yes it might stretch the budget, but its current and easier to source parts and the outlay may not require fixing to get it ride worthy.

    Ive seen too many guys end up in a few months end up continuall paying for one thing after another week after week.

    You should be able to pick up a good 2yr old DH bike for a good price DH bikes don;t hold threy price well not becuase theyre not good its just the market and the beating they take no matter how good a condition they are.

    Me I'd look around some more!
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    Thanks for the input. I think I'm going with the v10. Since I'm in college, I really don't have the budget to get a newer bike. I don't think I could justify spending $700 (>50%) more for a newer bike. That one does look to me in really nice shape and has some newer components.

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    i would go with the v10

    haven't reali heard any thing good, but not bad for that matter, about norcos, just "mediocre"

    haven't tested the tomac, but looks like an okay from for the age, but there is nothing wrong with the vanilla RC, granted its old, but once push tuned it feels better then the DHX.

    nothing wrong with the cove, although heavy, but they are indestructible.

    05 888 was an awesome fork. The problem with the 888 is that Marz no longer has damper parts for it and most of them need them after a few years.
    then why was i am to buy a brand new one out of the box within minutes of finding out that the compression adjuster bolts had sheered off in a way that's un-fixable? (for a 2005 888rc)
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    Any thoughts on this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1182

    2007 Asterix havoc-$2000
    -------09 fox 40
    -------avid code 5 brakes
    -------sram x7
    -------manitou swinger 6

    Would it be worth it to scape together the money to get this bike?

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    vs the others you had up as choices, then yes.

    but for 2K, i think you can do a lot better, your paying a lot extra for that fox 40 in that build.

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    I vote for the Peeler. There is a newer orange one for sale on Pinkbike too

    http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/594991/

    I have some time on one at Whistler and Blackrock. They are built very well. Don't listen to the Nay Sayer about this bike in rock gardens. It's a very fast bike and very well built. If you are looking for a decent build either one of these will be great. I had the 05 888RC on a Stinky Dee-Lux and it was a good fork. Just get on to the Canadian Bikes forum and check out what Peeler owners are saying. Cove produced this frame for their race team and once I rode it at Whistler I found out why. Definately do more research into a used frame, I would have the owner send you very detailed pics of the frame before I would buy. Good luck.

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    Price point Sette Vexx DH Bike $2300.00

    Frame Aluminum 6061

    Size(s) Small (23.03"/58.5cm), Medium (24.21"/61.5cm)

    Fork Rock Shox Boxxer Race

    Rear Shock Rock Shox Vivid 4.1 (Steel Spring 350lbs for small frame/400 lbs for medium frame)

    Shifters SRAM X7, 9-Speed Trigger

    Front Derailleur N/A

    Rear Derailleur SRAM X9 Short Cage

    Shifter Cable/Housing Alligator PTFE 5mm Black Housing

    Brake Levers Avid Code 5

    Front Brake Avid 203mm Rotor

    Rear Brake Avid 203mm Rotor

    Hoses Avid Hydraulic Hose

    Crankset Gravity MegaExo DH, Quad Integrated, AL7075 3mm 36T, 170mm, two tone black w/ an E13 LG1+ Chain Guide

    Bottom Bracket Gravity MegaExo DH, BB-7550 (83mm ) included

    Cassette SRAM PG 970DH MTB 11-26T 9-Speed

    Chain SRAM PC-971

    Headset FSA Orbitz 1.5" Internal

    Handlebar Gravity DH OS AL2014 Butted Aluminum, 31.8, 40mm Rise, Black Anodized, Laser Logo

    Grips/Tape Sette S-Type Locking Grips, Black

    Stem Gravity Direct Connect, Black, AL6061 Forged CNC, 45-50mm Extension Adjustable, Laser Logo

    Saddle Sette Strike DH Saddle - Black

    Seatpost Kalloy SP - 601, 31.6mm Shot-Peened Black

    Rims Mavic EX729 32H Black, Schrader Valve

    Front Hub Sette 20mm Thru Axle, 6-bolt Disc Brake, 32H black, heavy-duty cartridge sealed bearings

    Rear Hub Formula DHL-150 9-Speed Disc, Alloy Black, 12mm Axle by 150mm, 32H

    Spokes 14G straight, black stainless spokes and black Brass nipples

    Pedals Wellgo B103 Platform Pedals

    Front Tire Kenda Nevegal 26" x 2.5, Black, 60TPI, Steel Bead 2 Ply

    Rear Tire Kenda Nevegal 26" x 2.5, Black, 60TPI, Steel Bead 2 Ply

    Color(s) Flat Black

    Warranty 5 Years

    Weight 43.5lbs/19.73kg (w/Pedals, Small Size Avg.

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    I'll sell you my 2006 iron horse yakuza sohon bucho for $1200. Swapped out the crappy hayes for avid juicy 7 (rear) and 5 (front) and got a new Truvativ Hussefelt Crankset. Great Bike for the beginning downhiller.
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