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    Bonking ... not feelin' well 66 steer tube too short! Help!

    My friend found a sick deal on a 05 66rc. ( Very good fork IMO).
    The fork is in mint condition, super smooth.
    However, there's one problem. The steer tube is too short.
    He's considering welding another 50mm of steer tube on to the fork.
    What do you think?
    Have you got any experience dealing with short steer tube before?
    Thanks!

    P.S. Low stack headset helped a little bit, but still, it's a little bit short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxracing
    My friend found a sick deal on a 05 66rc. ( Very good fork IMO).
    The fork is in mint condition, super smooth.
    However, there's one problem. The steer tube is too short.
    He's considering welding another 50mm of steer tube on to the fork.
    What do you think?
    Have you got any experience dealing with short steer tube before?
    Thanks!

    P.S. Low stack headset helped a little bit, but still, it's a little bit short.
    Attaching addition steerer length is not an option. Call Marzocchi and see what they would charge to put a new steerer in.

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    Marzocchi will press in a new steer tube ONCE.

    How short is too short? Have you tried removing the headset spacers and using a low stack stem?

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    lol, welding does not sound like a good option. it will most likely void the warranty, and fail the first time your friends hucks to flat, or just off a curb. If your steerer tube breaks, there is nothing you can do to prevent a crash.
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    Welding? You aren't serious.

    Have Marzocchi press one in for you. I'm pretty sure its around $100.

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    and good luck getting a welded fork through the headset.

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    It'll cost your buddy about $90 to get a new full length steerer tube put into that fork (after everything's said and done). He should factor that into the cost. I bent my steerer tube casing a gap and that was the cost to have a new one pressed in.

    Also, I agree that this is a very good fork, but also incredibly tall. I've got an '07 66 and had an '05 (same fork your buddy is looking at) and my '07 has a 30mm shorter Axle to Crown height than my '05, but has 10mm more travel. Just an fyi....

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    Alright, looks like welding is not an option.
    I'll tell him not to buy it then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    Marzocchi will press in a new steer tube ONCE.

    How short is too short? Have you tried removing the headset spacers and using a low stack stem?
    Well, it's short.
    Removed all spacers, still couldn't reach the upper clamp bolt of the stem.
    Stem is already a low stack one. 40mm tall on the clamp area.
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    Why wouldn't he buy it? Replacing a steerer is not that difficult. Yes it will cost extra, but if he is getting the fork for so little money (don't really know how much) replacing a steerer is not such a bad thing.

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    Well, with $100 added, he has several other options.
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    Cost me about $75 bucks for their upgraded FR steertube, stronger alloy I think. Please do not try to weld on more steerer.
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    hee..hee...hee..... welding a piece onto the steertube..... hee...hee... J/K

    You'd never get the headset on, more less the spaces or stem... Just get a new one pressed in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak06
    hee..hee...hee..... welding a piece onto the steertube..... hee...hee... J/K

    You'd never get the headset on, more less the spaces or stem... Just get a new one pressed in...

    You can easily weld one and still fit it in a headset / spacers... have it penetrate deep, and grind / lathe off the surface... that being said

    NEVER WELD THE STEERTUBE!!!!!... if you do it, get hurt, don't say we didn't warn you

    pressing in a new steer tube is the best bet, and as others have stated it'll be about 100 bucks.

    seriously look into newer models however. axle to crown is rediculous on those things.
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    Why not a different stem, maybe a Dangerboy or something similar with a lower profile... Scary Fast used to make a cool stem with an adaptor just for this as well (years ago though).
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    I got a good advice for you .

    Forget about it and get something else. Steering tube is not kidding .....Remember.
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    advice not advise.
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    I had the same problem and went with a low stack height stem, the Dangerboy AK-47. 29mm.
    However, in your case, I'd send it in to Marzocchi and have them install a new steertube.
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    Thanks guys. Considering the cost of mounting a new head tube,( Actually there's nobody who can do it here.) He went for a newer 66. 06 rc2x. I hope he's happy with it.
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    hell thas even better
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    good choice, once the tube is pressed out, and the same size one is pressed it, it will fit a lot "looser" the deformation of the crown is small but it absolutely will not hold as well

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    HAHAHA, I was in your position about a year ago, except I ignored everyone's advice and welded a machined extension on professionally. It held fine for riding..


    Until I crashed....


    It will work if you don't plan on crashing, otherwise just buy a new lower crown with steerer or have marzocchi press in a new tube for $75
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    Holy ****!
    I can see something like a crack on your upper crown. Is it a crack?
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    Wow, that is the visual we needed for this thread. There is your answer OP. Better get a new tube pressed in..
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    you can send the fork to Marz and they can press a new steer tube in to it for like $70.00usd, it takes about 2 weeks-ish, you'll be riding by spring!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudd
    I had the same problem and went with a low stack height stem, the Dangerboy AK-47. 29mm.
    However, in your case, I'd send it in to Marzocchi and have them install a new steertube.
    I used that on my old freeride rig, I had cut my 66 to short as well, but for the price of that stem, I could have had the new tube pressed and used what I had, but ant nuthing wrong with adding a bit of bling to your ride! (mines red!)

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    I was about to show those photos.

    then I realized K had already posted his issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak06
    Wow, that is the visual we needed for this thread. There is your answer OP. Better get a new tube pressed in..
    Right!
    That was what I wanted to convince my friend.
    But he is convinced before I got them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuksul08
    HAHAHA, I was in your position about a year ago, except I ignored everyone's advice and welded a machined extension on professionally. It held fine for riding..


    It will work if you don't plan on crashing, otherwise just buy a new lower crown with steerer or have marzocchi press in a new tube for $75
    how hard did you crash to crack your steer tube and your fork crown?!?!

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    Welding the steer tube is about as smart as cutting off some of the headtube to lower the stack....but you already knew that.

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    Thats not a crack in my upper crown just a scratch. I was wheelying and the bike flipped backwards onto asphalt. I hit really hard on my back and the bike slammed hard all on one side of the bars.

    the steerer cracked but believe it or not the Azonic ST-1 carbon bars are perfectly fine.
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    Don't weld on more steer tube...you should machine away a section of your headtube... Let me know how that works for ya

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