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    2008 Banshee Scythe sneak peaks

    Via https://bansheebikes.blogspot.com/


    The Scythe is the new banshee big travel workhorse. If you want fancy new suspension linkages and a bike that is bling to show off to your mates, this is not the bike for you.
    This bike is for people who want a great reliable and tough bike that will put up with abuse on the trail.

    The Scythe, is replacing the Scream and Chaparral for 2008, and will have the strength attributes of both, but at a lighter weight, and have a more modern geometry perfectly suited to riders who like tight tech steep stuff, but also ride it with flow and skill.

    So whats new?...
    .. well we are sticking with the faux bar design for this bike to keep it stiff and strong, but have changed the linkage to allow a longer shock (2.75" stroke), to enable better damping and performance. The linkage is still progressive like the Chaparral and Scream to take the big hits.

    Weight
    The weight is expected to be around 8.5lbs frame only.

    Uninterrupted seat-tube
    The Scythe features an uninterrupted seattube so that you can pedal up to your super steep hidden trails, then lower the saddle to save your crotch on the big rock rolls.

    DH or FR?? you choose the setting
    There are 2 travel settings, 7" and 8". and there are two setups for each travel setting, DH and FR. So effectively you have 4 travel settings that only take a matter of seconds to change between. Allowing the rider to set up their bike to suit the type of trail they will be riding.

    So what happens when you switch from FR to DH?

    -You keep the same amount of travel you were on unless you choose to change this too.

    -The head angle slackens

    -The BB lowers

    -The effective chainstay lengthens slightly, which also lengthens the wheelbase

    -The Leverage acting on the shock becomes slightly less progressive to suit the more race orientated riders.

    Other big bike features
    - 1.5 headtube
    - 12 x 150 hub spacing, Rockshox Maxle compatible
    - redesigned dropout
    - Banshee custom designed 7005 AL hydroformed tubes with integrated gusseting into the shape
    - ISCG 2005 chainguide tabs .
    - fully compatible with all front derailleurs
    - Shimano Saint compatible
    - full compliment swingarm and rocker bearings

    Pricing
    Pricing will be similar to the current 2007 Scream or Chap which is approximately $1700 US/CDN [MSRP] and that includes a Fox DHX5.0

    Colors
    Anodized grey, ano black, powdercoated white, TEAM with black and hand polished.


    This is not designed to be a world class DH specific bike (thats the Legend Mk1), although it will happily take on any DH course out there (will preform best in DH setting) as well as any shore style crazy steep tech trail (FR setting is probably better here were you want higher BB height to get over roots and rocks).

    This bike is rough and ready! If you want a bike that will get you down anything you put it through and then sit for days caked in mud before being picked up for the next days bike park ride in the rain, followed by maybe a shore ride later that same week (no shuttling needed) then this is your bike... simple, strong, effective and reliable.
    Show it no respect but always count on it to get you home in the end after a punishing ride.




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    I fell in love with th Rune... its mouth watering


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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya
    I fell in love with th Rune... its mouth watering


    it's a sexy piece of engineering

    I have to figure out how to afford a Rune for my girlfriend and I am torn between a Scythe and Wildcard.

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    wtf is with the x's

    pics not workin
    I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude
    wtf is with the x's

    pics not workin

    are you sure? they're working for my PC. you can't even see the geo chart? I uploaded that.

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    all i see is the geo chart

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    Try looking here if you have the XXX's!
    http://bansheebikes.blogspot.com/

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    thats a really nice looking frame. Im diggin the adjustability too.
    Wait until Spring Bandini

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    pics uploaded the old fashioned way

    sorry folks, the pics were a little oversized for the site now, so here's a resized version of all the ones that didn't work
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    What You think about floater?
    I'am alway taking it under consideration mostly because i suck.
    At some point its usless i know.

    The question is why not add it to new frame?

    cheers

    Edit: frame looks very good.

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    Most people don't feel the need for a floater... infact a bike that exibits brake squat is easier to ride on slow speed tech stuff.

    I believe that active suspension under braking is only really necessary for DH racers (the legend will have this built into the linkage) to save a second or 2 on the high speed stuff.... it is not as necessary for freeride.

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    Digging that white Scythe. Looks like a nice frame.

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    cough devinci wilson rip off cough cough
    fiiiiiiiiiiiinchizzzzzzzzzzle

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    Quote Originally Posted by finchy
    cough devinci wilson rip off cough cough

    The wilson is a Horst link and uses full on DH race geometry.

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    ok lets see what i like mroe about the wilson/ollie

    proven (been around for a few years)
    grease port for the bearing on the main pivot
    FSR ie no brake jack no matter the speed
    leverage ratio is lower ie better performance
    adjustable drop outs, can change geo to run either a 24 or 26
    devinici has a life time on frames, and you can get them repainted and redecaled for a low price
    also has a 1.5 head tube
    fiiiiiiiiiiiinchizzzzzzzzzzle

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride
    I believe that active suspension under braking is only really necessary for DH racers (the legend will have this built into the linkage) to save a second or 2 on the high speed stuff.... it is not as necessary for freeride.
    Nawhh, active suspension is not useful to keep traction with the ground when it gets steep.
    Skidding down with the brakes locked out of control is way better

    Just kidding But seriously active suspension under braking is a nice thing to have no matter what you are riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finchy
    ok lets see what i like mroe about the wilson/ollie

    proven (been around for a few years)
    grease port for the bearing on the main pivot
    FSR ie no brake jack no matter the speed
    leverage ratio is lower ie better performance
    adjustable drop outs, can change geo to run either a 24 or 26
    devinici has a life time on frames, and you can get them repainted and redecaled for a low price
    also has a 1.5 head tube
    Thats awesome.... I like the Devinci too...
    they can't sell those bikes in the USA though.
    For hardcore extreme freeriding we just find that having a pivot after the rear axle makes a stiffer stronger chainstay/swingarm setup in the longer run and in a blind taste test most riders can't tell the difference when the bikes are all freshies.
    24" rear tires are"done" I don't know anyone still riding that setup, although you'll have no problem running it on the Scythe either if you're so inclined.
    Leverage ration on a 4bar or walking beam like the Scythe is not a static number like on a single pivot so although it may intially start out at 3.1:1 it can end up at the end of its stroke with a lower leverage ratio over the shock... I think ours ends up somewhere around 2.5:1, I'd have to go and look at the Ollie/Wilsons numbers to see where they're at.

    But in the long run if you like Devinci better and think its a better bike then thats total cool, diversity in the bike biz is a good thing.
    My only preference is that we keep the industry for people that like bikes and not greedy guys that treat bikes like a widget just to make money from.... not saying devinci is like and thankfully most companies have bike guys at the top, middle and bottom.... you know the DT, DW, FTW, TE, Transition guys, Canfield bros. on and on...
    One of the dudes working behind the scenes at Banshee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finchy
    ok lets see what i like mroe about the wilson/ollie

    proven (been around for a few years)
    grease port for the bearing on the main pivot
    FSR ie no brake jack no matter the speed
    leverage ratio is lower ie better performance
    adjustable drop outs, can change geo to run either a 24 or 26
    devinici has a life time on frames, and you can get them repainted and redecaled for a low price
    also has a 1.5 head tube
    The Scream & Chaparral are the basis for the Scythe --They're pretty proven
    I think the Scythe deserves a grease-port. It really does...
    Horst has it's drawbacks, just like single pivots, it can be debated for a century
    The Scythe has adjustable geometry as well as travel
    Banshee's warranty is pretty long, if you even need it

    The wilson looks like a sweet bike, but it's a race-bred machine. the Scythe is designed to be sh!tkicked all day and pedal uphill

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    Having greaseports on the scythe is a little redundant as the bearings are all fully sealed full compliment bearings... so the grease couldn't get into them anyway.

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    What's the frame weight with DHX 5.0? What will be the MSRP in Canadian funds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_Chris68
    What's the frame weight with DHX 5.0? What will be the MSRP in Canadian funds?

    estimate (from OP) was 8.5lbs without shock. with shock, my guess is around 9.5

    There's a little extra beef in that thar frame!

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    damn banshee is stepping it up. love the look of the rune. curious to see how these will ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by acdcfan1283
    damn banshee is stepping it up. love the look of the rune. curious to see how these will ride

    here's a vid of them playing around on the first rides of the proto
    http://broadbandsports.com/node/9428

    both riders are big guys 6' +

    The VF4B suspension with a Manitou ISX6 works great. The fork needed to be tuned for the big riders so don't mistake it's bob

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    NOOOOOO wheres the gothic writing gone? First marzocchi lost it, now this...
    Naturally the font changes how a frame rides

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenneththecurtain
    NOOOOOO wheres the gothic writing gone? First marzocchi lost it, now this...
    Naturally the font changes how a frame rides

    Things are going to be very different in 2008, but I love the new style. It's screams *fast!* instead of *Huck Me!*
    The Gothic won't dissapear, They plan to keep things mixed up and even do different color schemes on frame runs if they desire. you could see the Gothic pop up on a limited run somewhere down the line.

    Even the trademark creature got a facelift, and each bike gets its own logo
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