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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Wes over at Motorangutan just got this:

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    Awesome, can't wait to get one. Wish I was in the first batch. I also think they should do a limited run of the alltricks paint

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    Here's mine. I have a couple of weeks on it and it's a ripper!


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    Hey do you have any feedback yet for the ones that are thinking of getting one?? i want to change my Specialized Enduro for this Devinci Spartan but havent seen any real test reviews out there, thanks!

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    I've been taking out the XP build of this bike because my Dixon is waiting on a fork warranty. Holy balls this thing soars! I want this bike; what torture! The suspension is the best performer of anything I've tried, been demoing late model Santa Cruz, Giant, and Ibis. Pick your feature, preload the suspension, and fly 2x the distance of my Dixon, which is no slouch. I would love to try one with carbon wheels and front triangle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_man_half_scab View Post
    I've been taking out the XP build of this bike because my Dixon is waiting on a fork warranty. Holy balls this thing soars! I want this bike; what torture! The suspension is the best performer of anything I've tried, been demoing late model Santa Cruz, Giant, and Ibis. Pick your feature, preload the suspension, and fly 2x the distance of my Dixon, which is no slouch. I would love to try one with carbon wheels and front triangle.
    Thanks for the information! Just what I was looking for! Did you feel the bike a little heavy uphill? I'm looking to replace my 2013 specialized enduro comp 26 for this Spartan, what are your impressions up and down hill? How does it behaves in sharp turns?

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    The XP build is not light, ~34lbs in large, and I can feel it on extended climbs. I think this can be mitigated by swapping the Super Gravity HDs and the Jalco wheels. No doubt the Jalcos are anchors, though they do feel pretty stiff.

    I have been a snob in the past about travel adjust forks, but I use the dual position air on this bike, and feel it is justified.

    The back end doesn't track as close as the Dixon on tech climbs, and I feel like I can't thread through stuff as precisely, but you can tractor over stuff a little better due to greater small bump sensitivity, probably even more so if I got the gearing I like.

    Pedaling is excellent in the big ring, though I do notice feedback in the little ring. I don't care, as I'm a 1x guy, and would rip that front derailleur off as soon as it's mine. Fire road climbs I use the compression switch on the Monarch and it eliminates the small amount of bob in full open.

    I think the smartest route to making this a trail bike would be to go the XP build and swap out crankset for a 1x and change wheels immediately, ride the HDs till the side knobs die (6 weeks max), then put on something more reasonable and shreddy like XR4s.

    Cornering is predictable. I've been getting the suspension dialed, so I can't say I've pushed it to the max. It's really easy to find the balance point in any given situation. I can get more over the front than I can on the Dixon in turns. Not sure if the suspension is in Hi or Lo mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_man_half_scab View Post
    The XP build is not light, ~34lbs in large, and I can feel it on extended climbs. I think this can be mitigated by swapping the Super Gravity HDs and the Jalco wheels. No doubt the Jalcos are anchors, though they do feel pretty stiff.

    I have been a snob in the past about travel adjust forks, but I use the dual position air on this bike, and feel it is justified.

    The back end doesn't track as close as the Dixon on tech climbs, and I feel like I can't thread through stuff as precisely, but you can tractor over stuff a little better due to greater small bump sensitivity, probably even more so if I got the gearing I like.

    Pedaling is excellent in the big ring, though I do notice feedback in the little ring. I don't care, as I'm a 1x guy, and would rip that front derailleur off as soon as it's mine. Fire road climbs I use the compression switch on the Monarch and it eliminates the small amount of bob in full open.

    I think the smartest route to making this a trail bike would be to go the XP build and swap out crankset for a 1x and change wheels immediately, ride the HDs till the side knobs die (6 weeks max), then put on something more reasonable and shreddy like XR4s.

    Cornering is predictable. I've been getting the suspension dialed, so I can't say I've pushed it to the max. It's really easy to find the balance point in any given situation. I can get more over the front than I can on the Dixon in turns. Not sure if the suspension is in Hi or Lo mode.

    Woww nice review I want to buy the RC model but changing the fork for a Pike dual position and the shock for a Cane Creek DB air CS, I think this will make the bike a little heavier but do you think the dual position in the fork will help a lot when climbing? I want to leave the rest as it comes, do you think this bike is a little heavy for enduro racing? I'm more like a rider that goes up hill to enjoy downhills, I'm not willing to do xc with the bike. Thanks!

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    Here's a little info I posted on another site:

    Sure thing, I'm happy to share what I've experienced so far.

    For reference I'm coming off of a Yeti SB66 Carbon. I rode a SB66 (first alloy, then carbon) for about two and a half years and it was an amazing bike, so the switch to the Devinci was mostly just for a change of pace.

    Compared to the Yeti, the geo is pretty close with a few tweaks that I consider improvements - mostly the steeper seat tube angle. The reach on the medium is almost identical, the chainstay length is the same, the head angle is a wee bit slacker and as a result the front center is slightly longer. The steeper seat tube is apparent when climbing and it climbs very well. I've ridden it with the shock "open" about 95% of the time so far and don't really feel the need for a platform unless it's a road or dirt road climb. It pedals great all around too, no complaints there. The Pike and the Monarch feel similar and balanced. I'm riding it in the low/slack position and it rails. The BB is 337mm (spot on to Devinci's numbers)which is nice and low for a 165mm bike. Jumps great too. So far, so good. I'll comment further after I've got more time on it.

    In my experience Specialized bikes rely heavily on the damper (via platform/lockout) to minimize unwanted suspension movement. The Spartan does not. It pedals fine with the shock wide open and I'd only use the low speed compression switch for long, smooth road climbs. Also, all models (Xp/RC/RR) have a Dual Position Pike on them. Mine is 30lbs even and the wheels are the best place to upgrade if you want to drop some weight/improve performance.

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    Hey, Dogboy, thanks for your input. Are you riding a large? Do you happen to know how much your wheelset weighs?

    One thing I'm not so excited about is the cable routing. There are two sets of bosses on the down tube, one top one bottom. The top bosses can hold three cables. Everything gets lumped together in a nerve bundle, so if you want to mess with one cable you have to mess with all of them; the quick clips won't work. The rear derailleur cable feeds under the chainstay, rather than through it on my Dixon. I can see pluses and minuses to this, as it sucks trying to push the housing through the partial internal routing on my Dixon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_man_half_scab View Post
    Hey, Dogboy, thanks for your input. Are you riding a large? Do you happen to know how much your wheelset weighs?

    One thing I'm not so excited about is the cable routing. There are two sets of bosses on the down tube, one top one bottom. The top bosses can hold three cables. Everything gets lumped together in a nerve bundle, so if you want to mess with one cable you have to mess with all of them; the quick clips won't work. The rear derailleur cable feeds under the chainstay, rather than through it on my Dixon. I can see pluses and minuses to this, as it sucks trying to push the housing through the partial internal routing on my Dixon.
    I'm on a medium (5'9.5" tall for reference). The wheels are Industry Nine Torch Enduros and weigh 1680g for the pair. I'm pretty pleased with the cable routing. I'd much rather have them on top of the down tube rather than underneath - the front derailleur cable is the one underneath. I agree about the chainstay cable routing. I like the routing through the chainstay, but the difference in dropout design dictates running it externally. I will say that so far the cable isn't showing any signs of abuse with the routing below the chainstay and I've ridden some really rough trails.

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    Re: Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Got my large yesterday. I'm transferring XTR 1x bits from a dead yeti so the build should be in the 30lbs range depending on what I do with wheels/tyres.

    In the Uk I wasn't able to buy frame-only so I have an Xp build kit to dispose of.

    Not at all sure on wheel options. I settled on Crossmax Sx on my yeti. Crossmax enduro wts is of no interest. All my friends seem to be going down the LB carbon route. Think I ride a bit too heavy for them. Currently looking at wildcard option of Syntace W30/W35.

    One question about the reverb stealth cabling. There seems to be a big hole in the front of the seat tube all set to funnel mud and water inside the frame. Is this normal? Do people use any sort of grommet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by petercarm View Post
    One question about the reverb stealth cabling. There seems to be a big hole in the front of the seat tube all set to funnel mud and water inside the frame. Is this normal? Do people use any sort of grommet?


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    I'm not using a grommet but I'm sure you could fab something up. To be honest I don't see how much is going to get in on the front side of the seat tube. Sure there is going to be muck coming off the front tire, but the downtube is so wide I can't see much of anything getting past it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    I'm not using a grommet but I'm sure you could fab something up. To be honest I don't see how much is going to get in on the front side of the seat tube. Sure there is going to be muck coming off the front tire, but the downtube is so wide I can't see much of anything getting past it.
    I suppose I've always reckoned UK riding can be guaranteed to get mud in the parts other countries can't reach. Oh well. I was used to tipping my Yeti SB-66A upside down to get water out of the seattube. I guess there will be new rituals with the Spartan. I may try a Shimano Di2 grommet; probably too small but cheap and available so worth a try. Secondary concern is vibration and the frame taking chunks out of the hose or vice versa.

    Wheels sorted. Syntace W30s were in stock and they are on their way. A bit lighter than I'd maybe prefer but they took my fancy. I may think again about the HD Super Gravity on the back. 150mm Reverb Stealth is coming with a RH remote (that I'll run upside down on the left).

    I think my initial build is now all lined up. Pictures will follow.

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    Re: Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by petercarm View Post
    Pictures will follow.
    The build is probably a little to light in the wheels (Syntace W30=1580g) and rear Hans Dampf (2.25 Evo). Comes in at 28.8lbs without pedals

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    Which build did you get. I have the XP and would like to get the weight down. Looking at wheels and tires. I can't find the weight on the jalco wheels. Would this be the best to lighten up the weight. Thought?

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    Re: Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gagnon4325 View Post
    Which build did you get. I have the XP and would like to get the weight down. Looking at wheels and tires. I can't find the weight on the jalco wheels. Would this be the best to lighten up the weight. Thought?
    I transferred a load of components from my old 26er and added the light wheels, so my build isn't anything like the official builds. The Jalcos are pretty heavy but also think about whether you need Super Gravity casings on the tyres.

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    Thanks. I am looking at wheels and def going to lighten it up. I just need to figure out where to go with it.

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    Sweet looking bike. I really enjoy riding mine but just need to lighten it up a little.

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    Great write up & pics guys!

    Now that folks might have a little more ride time on this bike, can you guys elaborate a little more on its climbing capabilities?

    This bike is at the top of my list right now! To me the geo is spot on! I like the fact that this bike is aggressive but not over the top DH long and slack (Nomad/Reign...). Im sure Id mostly be riding this bike in high mode for trail rides where Id be pedaling up to smash every down along the way, but I love that you can adjust geo for the longer DH rides. I already have a park bike for lift assisted riding and all around DH, so I dont need my daily driver to fill those shoes. I dont race (only on Strava) but I do ride hard and aggressive and dont mind a compromise in climbing for a benefit on the downs. Living in SoCal, I will be climbing this bike pretty much on every ride.

    So...How well does the Spartan climb in high mode? How well does it handle steep, technical, extended climbs? Hows the low BB in low mode, pedal strikes? Hows the pedal bob? Ive never ridden a Devinci or a Split Pivot for that matter. On the downs do you notice any excessive brake jack? Im going to becoming off an Iron Horse DW 6point. Been on this bike for almost 7 years and need something different. Im on the shorter side of 510 and would be considering a medium. My 6point is a medium but sized small with a 22 top tube and a 25mm setback post. Ive always felt cramped on the bike. For guys riding a Med and similar height; how do you find the sizing of the frame? I need a longer sized frame but I dont think Id need to jump frame sizes, any thing will feel bigger than my 6point.
    Lastly, can any one compare the ride characteristics of the split pivot to a DW link, or even a VPP. And maybe, has anyone been on both the new Nomad and the Spartan and can compare? Sorry to inundate this thread with all these questions, just super stoked on this bike and trying to dig up a little more info. Anything will be appreciated!

    Carbon frames should start rolling out in October! Heres a stock pic to keep the stoke alive!
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    The climbing is fine and then some. On a steep (1 minute) pitch that I had set a previous Strava best with my SB-66, I smashed it today. The secret is to get it set up soft enough so there is traction and bump swallowing. Up until this weekend I'd been running it too stiff to get the best out of the climbing.

    The same setup also let me improve a Strava KOM time I hold on another technical trail. I had a few changes in setup... and hit the KOM time four runs in a row.

    I'm riding in the high setting all the time. I'm on 175 cranks and low is too low for general use. If I really wanted it, the change in geo is very quick (less than a minute).

    DW link bikes are different for every design. I've had a few goes on a too small Mojo HD and liked it. The geo on the Spartan is much better suited to me though. This is my second split pivot and I think it is a really good system. Simple and effective. Reliable.

    I'm on a large.

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    Re: Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by pulpwoody View Post
    Wes over at Motorangutan just got this:

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    Man I love fresh cardboard but throw a fresh hot black frame like that on top then OMG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercarm View Post
    The climbing is fine and then some. On a steep (1 minute) pitch that I had set a previous Strava best with my SB-66, I smashed it today. The secret is to get it set up soft enough so there is traction and bump swallowing. Up until this weekend I'd been running it too stiff to get the best out of the climbing.

    The same setup also let me improve a Strava KOM time I hold on another technical trail. I had a few changes in setup... and hit the KOM time four runs in a row.

    I'm riding in the high setting all the time. I'm on 175 cranks and low is too low for general use. If I really wanted it, the change in geo is very quick (less than a minute).

    DW link bikes are different for every design. I've had a few goes on a too small Mojo HD and liked it. The geo on the Spartan is much better suited to me though. This is my second split pivot and I think it is a really good system. Simple and effective. Reliable.

    I'm on a large.
    Good stuff petercarm! Thats exactly what I want to hear!!!

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    So many good (enduro) things so limited resource to spend to try it. Devinci Spartan is definitely there with others like pivot Mach6, Intense T275, new NomadC, Knolly Warden and yet to come Ibis and Yeti SB6c. They are all high on the list with wide range of pricing as we'll.
    How's the Spartan stack up among others is anyone have ridden some of them?
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    I've got about 2 1/2 months on mine now and just under 50,000 feet of climbing. It climbs very well whether it's a techy, rocky climb or a long, smooth grind on a forest service road. I hardly ever use the compression switch on the Monarch, but I have used it on some smoother climbs and it does firm up the ride. Of course it absolutely slays on the descents. I ran it in the low setting for the first couple of months and switched it to the high setting a couple of weeks ago on a road trip to some particularly rocky trails in PA and WV. I'm running 170mm cranks and you have to be mindful of your pedals, but having a rear hub with good engagement helps when you need to ratchet through a section. I'm around 5'9"/5'10" and find the medium to be perfect for all-around riding. If I was using the bike exclusively for aggressive/park riding I might consider a large with a 35mm stem, but I think the medium is right for my use. Like petercarm I'm coming off of a Yeti SB66 carbon (also a medium, similar fit) which was an exceptionally good bike and the Spartan compares favorably with the main difference being slightly lower, slightly slacker, and with a little steeper seat tube angle which helps with your climbing position. All in all extremely pleased with the Spartan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    I've got about 2 1/2 months on mine now and just under 50,000 feet of climbing. It climbs very well whether it's a techy, rocky climb or a long, smooth grind on a forest service road. I hardly ever use the compression switch on the Monarch, but I have used it on some smother climbs and it does firm up the ride. Of course it absolutely slays on the descents. I ran it in the low setting for the first couple of months and switched it to the high setting a couple of weeks ago on a road trip to some particularly rocky trails in PA and WV. I'm running 170mm cranks and you have to be mindful of your pedals, but having a rear hub with good engagement helps when you need to ratchet through a section. I'm around 5'9"/5'10" and find the medium to be perfect for all-around riding. If I was using the bike exclusively for aggressive/park riding I might consider a large with a 35mm stem, but I think the medium is right for my use. Like petercarm I'm coming off of a Yeti SB66 carbon (also a medium, similar fit) which was an exceptionally good bike and the Spartan compares favorably with the main difference being slightly lower, slightly slacker, and with a little steeper seat tube angle which helps with your climbing position. All in all extremely pleased with the Spartan.
    Thanks for the sharing your update Dogboy! The more I hear about this bike, the more fired up I am to get one!

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    Have mine on order. Medium Spartan carbon in the Enduro colours. should arrive in the country in December

    cant wait for it to arrive!

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by PSimpson7 View Post
    Have mine on order. Medium Spartan carbon in the Enduro colours. should arrive in the country in December

    cant wait for it to arrive!
    Sweet! That's going to feel like a long wait!

    Can anyone recall what size crank arms come with the stock builds? Preferably size med... Devinci website doesn't specify.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator Z View Post
    Sweet! That's going to feel like a long wait!

    Can anyone recall what size crank arms come with the stock builds? Preferably size med... Devinci website doesn't specify.


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    My medium came with 170mm cranks.

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    My medium came with 170mm cranks.
    Awesome, thanks! That's what I was hoping for.


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    I'm looking into getting a Spartan, either small or medium. I'm 5'6" , should I get the sm or med?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    I'm looking into getting a Spartan, either small or medium. I'm 5'6" , should I get the sm or med?
    I am 5'6" and went with the small. I am running a 50 stem on it now but may try a 60. I did not get the chance to ride a medium but the numbers on the small where really close to the numbers on the hardtail I built that I had been riding the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSOXBHK View Post
    I am 5'6" and went with the small. I am running a 50 stem on it now but may try a 60. I did not get the chance to ride a medium but the numbers on the small where really close to the numbers on the hardtail I built that I had been riding the most.
    curious to see how you like the small as i'm similar height and ride a med mojo hd but found a med on a tracer too big. the wheelbases on the 27.5 are getting so long i would prefer the more agile feel of the small. I dont like to feel cramped though and usually i run a setback post on my mojo because i have a long torso.

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    Curious, for those who are on a Spartan, if you'd ridden/demo'ed or considered a Nomad as well, I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on why you chose the Spartan. I'm looking at a situation where I could pick up similar builds from shops I would equally be interested in supporting and I'm having a hard time making a decision. I've been on both, they feel good to me, but I wasn't able to compare them in succession so it's hard to say.

    Seems to me that the carbon Nomad X1/SLX is about 2.5 pounds lighter (+/- for different standard tires), and about $600 more expensive (but with better hubs/rims) than the carbon Spartan. Of course the Spartan also has the nifty suspention flips...

    Again, I'd love to hear if you had considered both and how you ended up picking the Spartan (or maybe you didn't).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polishtea View Post
    Curious, for those who are on a Spartan, if you'd ridden/demo'ed or considered a Nomad as well, I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on why you chose the Spartan. I'm looking at a situation where I could pick up similar builds from shops I would equally be interested in supporting and I'm having a hard time making a decision. I've been on both, they feel good to me, but I wasn't able to compare them in succession so it's hard to say.

    Seems to me that the carbon Nomad X1/SLX is about 2.5 pounds lighter (+/- for different standard tires), and about $600 more expensive (but with better hubs/rims) than the carbon Spartan. Of course the Spartan also has the nifty suspention flips...

    Again, I'd love to hear if you had considered both and how you ended up picking the Spartan (or maybe you didn't).
    I'm in a similar situation where i would like to hear the pluses and minuses of both. I like the shorter wheelbase (on paper) of the Spartan and the fact that it is a very boutique type frame that i am unlikely to see on the trails. On the other hand the 1lb weight diff between the frames puts me more in the Nomad camp...having ridden a vp free for several years i feel its kind of like a lightweight version of that- but that long wheelbase has got me worried it wont be that manueverable. How tall are you? my other problem is i am on the cusp of the med but slightly big for the small frame size. i also have a long torso which means i need a longer toptube...so yea interested to hear how this plays out. will be demoing a nomad prolly in the next two weeks-

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    Polishtea and nighthops - I don't have any time on a V3 Nomad, but I did have a V2 carbon Nomad and have been riding a Spartan since early-June. I've also ridden lots of other bikes in the travel range of these bikes. The Nomad was released about the same time as the Spartan and I was considering one of those as well. For me the main draw to the Nomad was unquestionably the weight - at the time there was only the alloy Spartan. Now that there is a Carbon Spartan option the comparison is more even, though the Spartan is still likely a little heavier. I really, really like the way Devinci Split Pivot bikes ride. They have a lively feel with a nice progressive spring curve and no really funky quirks. I've owned a Dixon and a few Wilsons and they've all been awesome. The Spartan is very much in line with my previous Devinci bikes with regards to ride quality. As far as geometry goes the Nomad and Spartan are really close. The reach is almost identical for a given size as is the chainstay length. The head angle is a bit slacker on the Nomad and that's where the additional wheelbase length on the Nomad comes from. Regarding manueverability, the fact that the chainstays are about the length means that the two bikes are going turn about the same. I've found that longer stays make a bigger difference than front-center length when it comes to turning. All that said I wouldn't hesitate to ride either bike. Hope that helps.

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    Sounds like you're saying, in my case at least, that the decision can be made on which I value more, about $600 or about 2 pounds of bike.

    Somehow that doesn't make it easier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polishtea View Post
    Sounds like you're saying, in my case at least, that the decision can be made on which I value more, about $600 or about 2 pounds of bike.

    Somehow that doesn't make it easier...
    I can guarantee you that a Nomad V3 and Carbon Spartan with identical builds will not be 2 pounds different - shouldn't be over a half pound apart. My alloy Spartan frame isn't 2 pounds heavier than a Nomad V3.

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    hm, looks like my specs I jotted down were wrong, yeah it is a lot closer than that. So from the looks of it, it's JUST the chain stays that are aluminum on the carbon spartan.

    Other than the somewhat subjective viewpoint that the nomad's vpp might be a better climbing system, they seem nearly the same. And the Devinci's frame paint job is by far and way the better look...

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercarm View Post
    The build is probably a little to light in the wheels (Syntace W30=1580g) and rear Hans Dampf (2.25 Evo). Comes in at 28.8lbs without pedals

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    How are you liking your Syntace W30's? I have pretty much settled on getting the W35's for my next build. Just need to decide on the frame and the Spartan definitely has my interest. Spartan, SB6c or the Uprising? Too many great choices these days and that's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissam View Post
    How are you liking your Syntace W30's? I have pretty much settled on getting the W35's for my next build. Just need to decide on the frame and the Spartan definitely has my interest. Spartan, SB6c or the Uprising? Too many great choices these days and that's a good thing.
    The W30s are excellent. I'd have gone with W35s but the W30s were in stock for immediate purchase. Even the W30s support big tyres very well and I run pressures just above 20psi. The front tensions were spot on. I build wheels myself and I felt the rear tensions were a little bit off. However Syntace threadlock the nipples and the tensions have stayed consistent in use and I have not attempted to retension.

    Just like everybody says, the freehub is louder than any other. Makes me pedal rather than freewheel when going through quiet villages.

    Running single ply tyres on an uplift day I have managed to dent the rear rim when I pinch flatted. W35s should be more resistant but tyre choice was wrong for the day.

    I've not attempted tubeless yet but was planning to give gorilla tape a go.

    The hubs are excellent. Same sort of quality as DT240s with a little bit of extra Syntace obsessive engineering. I got the front hub that adapts to 20mm axles. This was an important point for me. Even if the rims eventually fail (after appropriate abuse), the hubs will have a long life with my pick of replacement rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercarm View Post
    The W30s are excellent. I'd have gone with W35s but the W30s were in stock for immediate purchase. Even the W30s support big tyres very well and I run pressures just above 20psi. The front tensions were spot on. I build wheels myself and I felt the rear tensions were a little bit off. However Syntace threadlock the nipples and the tensions have stayed consistent in use and I have not attempted to retension.

    Just like everybody says, the freehub is louder than any other. Makes me pedal rather than freewheel when going through quiet villages.

    Running single ply tyres on an uplift day I have managed to dent the rear rim when I pinch flatted. W35s should be more resistant but tyre choice was wrong for the day.

    I've not attempted tubeless yet but was planning to give gorilla tape a go.

    The hubs are excellent. Same sort of quality as DT240s with a little bit of extra Syntace obsessive engineering. I got the front hub that adapts to 20mm axles. This was an important point for me. Even if the rims eventually fail (after appropriate abuse), the hubs will have a long life with my pick of replacement rim.
    Thanks for the review. Syntace seems to be the best kept secret for quality components.

    The Spartan really is intriguing. Seems like the perfect trail bike for the Alps.

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    You know I may just get this bike just for the simple fact that every time I lower the seat and get ready to drop in I get to yell.....


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    Anyone try a 170 fork? I'm thinking a 180 Fox 36 lowered to 170 would be pretty sweet on the Spartan. Unless RS comes out with a new Lyrik. I wouldn't mind a rc3evo TI zoke but I think white would clash with the multi colored frame, plus the Evo is heavy.

    This thread needs more photos.

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    Mine cant be far away now! I will upload pics when I get it!

    In terms of 170/180mm forks I have got a set of Formula 35's on order. I went for the 160mm version but they also do a 170/180mm version.

    I shied away from running more than 160, but only really as I ran 180 floats on my V2 Rune which with no lock out etc were pretty hard work at times!

    the 170-180mm Formula 35's only weigh 1795grams, and are available in black with black stanchions

    ThirtyFive 27.5" Formula

    Could be worth a look?! I will let you know how mine go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissam View Post
    Anyone try a 170 fork? I'm thinking a 180 Fox 36 lowered to 170 would be pretty sweet on the Spartan. Unless RS comes out with a new Lyrik. I wouldn't mind a rc3evo TI zoke but I think white would clash with the multi colored frame, plus the Evo is heavy.

    This thread needs more photos.
    I'm running a 170mm 36 on mine, stellar fork so far. Not a big change in the stance of the bike since the A-C is only 7mm or so more than the 160mm Pike. A wee bit slacker (like 65.5 in the low setting) and the BB is still nice and low. Pairs up nicely with the DB Air CS too. A couple of pics


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    I'm running a 170mm 36 on mine, stellar fork so far. Not a big change in the stance of the bike since the A-C is only 7mm or so more than the 160mm Pike. A wee bit slacker (like 65.5 in the low setting) and the BB is still nice and low. Pairs up nicely with the DB Air CS too. A couple of pics

    Sweet. How are you liking the fox compared to the pike? Is it a 2015?
    I read a review somewhere that said the Spartan straddles the line between poppy and plough. It will erase a rockgarden but still fly in the air as soon as you want it too. Planted but still able to pop over to a new line. Can anyone confirm this? Im guessing from the above photo it flys pretty well.

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    Swissam, did you manage to get a test ride of the Spartan? What is you review of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tp806 View Post
    Swissam, did you manage to get a test ride of the Spartan? What is you review of this?
    No not yet. I've been too busy plus I'm going to wait until the snow melts to test it on some real trails.

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    Thank you for the great review and comments. We will be ordering a new Spartan 27.5 Carbon Frame in First Quarter of FY '15. We will keep you posted.

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    Sparta!!

    Stoked !! Just got my frame!! Now to get started on the build!!

    Shout out to fanatic bike in Bellingham!! Shipped the frame to Alaska with a quickness!!
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    How durable is the carbon version of spartancross it comes with life time warranty?-
    Has anyone tried Db online with spartan?

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rave81 View Post
    How durable is the carbon version of spartancross it comes with life time warranty?-
    Has anyone tried Db online with spartan?
    I wouldn't have any doubts about the durability but just remember that warranties cover manufacturing faults and material faults.

    Durability comes into play just in the general rough and tumble of mountain biking. Anybody can be unlucky but technically (and actually) the warranty does not cover you and instead you are reliant on crash replacement policy. I've not yet broken one of my Devincis (Dixon al, Spartan Al, Leo SL) so I have no idea of how the crash replacement policy would be exercised via your dealer.

    Maybe it is better to focus on the first part... the product is strong, well-built and rides great. The carbon is not much more expensive than the aluminium. I'd happily ride a carbon and in the unlikely case of bad luck I'd take my sob story back to the dealer and expect to pay a discounted price for a crash replacement.

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    A sweet video of the Spartan under Ian Morrison (Whistler ripper)


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    Picked my New Spartan on Friday. Carbon Size XL, X01, Pike, Ibis Wheels. Broke her in on Saturday on some pretty agressive trails that would overwhelm the Troy that I am coming off of, it obviously shined on them.
    Overall it is quite a bit stiffer, slacker, and has more of a DH bike feel than the Troy. The M/M tune on the Debonair feels spot on, where the Debonair I put on the Troy required a retune to a L/M. I was suprised how well it climbed, possibly better for technical climbing than the Troy, but the extra weight of the frame certainly will be a detrimant on long grinds.

    Pretty stoked so far, the only worries I have is that this bike will be overkill on the less agressive trails around here that I love like SST at Galbraith, but the more rowdy stuff is going to be a blast..

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    When did you order yours? Or if anyone else wants to chime in on thier ordered to delivered time.

    I put in an order for a carbon Spartan in early November (might have been just before halloween actually), and they said likely end of December, now they're saying maybe by the end of January.

    I've watched two people wait over 9 months for Norcos and I'm getting a little anxious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polishtea View Post
    When did you order yours? Or if anyone else wants to chime in on thier ordered to delivered time.

    I put in an order for a carbon Spartan in early November (might have been just before halloween actually), and they said likely end of December, now they're saying maybe by the end of January.

    I've watched two people wait over 9 months for Norcos and I'm getting a little anxious!
    Ordered late summer(Aug/Sep). Received in December. Fanatik Bike Co

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    When did you order yours? Or if anyone else wants to chime in on thier ordered to delivered time.

    I put in an order for a carbon Spartan in early November (might have been just before halloween actually), and they said likely end of December, now they're saying maybe by the end of January.

    I've watched two people wait over 9 months for Norcos and I'm getting a little anxious!
    Where did you order it from? I got my size M carbon spartan in less than a week, i ordered it in the beginning of december from Fanatik Bike Co. - Bellingham Wa - Your source for bikes from Intense, Devinci, Evil, Banshee, Norco, Ibis and more!

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    Regionally local shop in Oregon, one of the few places that carried the brand and are fans of the trail system I help build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polishtea View Post
    Regionally local shop in Oregon, one of the few places that carried the brand and are fans of the trail system I help build.
    Crow's Feet Commons?

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    Posted my first impressions ride review on my trail blog.

    Deception de·cep·tion: 2015 Devinci Spartan Carbon : First Ride Impressions




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    sweet, thanks for sharing your input. I cant wait to get mine!


    So what was the weight out of the box with the jalcos'etc?

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sb1616ne View Post
    sweet, thanks for sharing your input. I cant wait to get mine!


    So what was the weight out of the box with the jalcos'etc?
    Just guessing that it's a tad over 32.

    I'll add my second ride impressions soon - lots of climbing today and some good fast downhills with drops. Tech climbs with steep switchbacks.


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    Really loving this bike so far. Climbed 1500' to get to this summit. I expected a worse climber than it was.




    So where the hell did you guys put these?


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    I think most of that goes on the chain stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvus View Post

    So where the hell did you guys put these?

    Yeah they go on the Chain/Seat Stays.
    Here are some pics from my bike I just picked up:










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    ^That is where there were on the demo I rode. My frameset and XP build kit are in the back of my truck right now. I am curious to know if these protectors are attached or loose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunrugger View Post
    ^That is where there were on the demo I rode. My frameset and XP build kit are in the back of my truck right now. I am curious to know if these protectors are attached or loose...
    They should come loose with any build or frameset.
    Mine were installed by the bike shop before picking it up.

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    My frameset has finally arrived!





    And the forks...





    This is as far as I have got so far. Wheels and tyres wont be the final ones but they fit so I can build it using them.


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    Nice. As of 7pm tonight...aside from being on borrowed wheels mine is done! Well, I need to "fit and finish" it...determine my stack and further cut the fork, possibly trim cables.











    I will do a proper photoshoot when my wheels arrive this week.

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    Thanks Nisti. Appreciate the pics. Kinda feel like a dumbass after looking at them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvus View Post
    Thanks Nisti. Appreciate the pics. Kinda feel like a dumbass after looking at them again.
    No worries, I would've wondered the same thing.

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    A few things I need to remedy on my Carbon Spartan after a few rides.

    I am thinking the Debonair could use a Low compression tune. I guess they come with the medium tune for pedalling, but it's a little harsh and dead feeling to me. I have the Low tune DH piston in the Debonair is was running on my Troy. I will swap that out and see how it goes.

    The steat stay yoke that wraps around the rear tire is a major mud catcher. Need to rig up a fender that.

    The Aluminum down tube/stealth cable protector is heavy and a mud catcher as well. I tried to cut up an old moto fender to replace it but it came out ugly. Not sure what to do here. I'll stick some moto foam in there if I keep running it.

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    ^^true story. Post pics with your rigging.

    Couldnt take the FD anymore and threw on this 30t. Will see how the long forest road climbs go.




    So clean

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    Nice morning in the woods. In the high altitudes the sun was beaming through the fog and cutting spears of light through the woods. No real justice with photo.


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    Video of the Spartan Carbon handling some of the biggest stuff Austin has to offer. Might not look like much, but there are several 4-6 footers with one being closer to 8. This was only my second ride on it...after being limited to my HT 29er for a year...it'll take a little time, but I'll get my air legs back.

    I had some good technical climbing footage that shows there's not much sacrifice in that dept, but who wants to watch that...

    Watch in HD!

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    rugger, was that a single trail in that video? I don't think I've ridden that stuff.

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    Anita, sent you a PM.

    I also wanted to add that the Spartan truly does climb well. I rode at Emma Long this week and cleaned sections I have rarely cleaned before. I've ridden Emma on everything from a cheap old Giant Rincon, C-Dale Gemini (7"), Titus Motolite, Chumba XCL, Schwin Homegrown Ltd, Salsa El Mariachi, about the only thing I haven't ridden there is a full sus 29er. The climbs at Emma are not long, but they are very chunky, full of stair steps - most of which are spaced horribly for any wheel size, many are very loose, often have multiple turns.

    The Spartan allowed me to keep my momentum going up - roll over anything in front of me while the rear absorbed the hits and kept traction - almost gently pushing me over obstacles. I honestly expected to be sacrificing technical climbing by getting the Spartan, I am very pleasantly surprised that is not the case.

    As expected hauling a$$ on the few fast downhill sections the Spartan is simply bada$$ and confidence inspiring.

    Examples of Emma (photo credit MrMentallo):





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    Sounds awesome. Just the kind of bike I'm looking for, longer travel but still can climb the technical stuff that we have around here well. I'm just waiting until I have a clear weekend with good weather to do a demo.

    Have you been riding it in the low or high position? Also, what length cranks are you running? I usually run 175s but I'm considering 170s on this next bike for clearance when pedaling through rocks and such.

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    Just got back from a week of shredding in Sedona and Phoenix area.I had been riding the bike in the low position on my local PNW trails, but Sedona has tons of technical little climbs, so day 2 of the trip I swapped it to the high position, (whihc is super easy) and left it there for the rest of the trip. The Steeper SA and higher BB made it climb like a goat, at a bit of a sacrifice on the downs, with the steeper HA.
    I got to say the more I ride this bike the more I am impressed when things get fast and rowdy, it's so composed and intuatitive it's eery.

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    Size question.. @ 6' would L or XL be the way to go?

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    FWIW I am 6' with long arms and legs. In a parking lot test the XL felt like it fit me better

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    I am 6'2" on an Xl with a 50mm stem. At 6'0" the XL would probably fit great with a 35mm stem if you like a longer top tube and wheelbase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Handle View Post
    Sounds awesome. Just the kind of bike I'm looking for, longer travel but still can climb the technical stuff that we have around here well. I'm just waiting until I have a clear weekend with good weather to do a demo.

    Have you been riding it in the low or high position? Also, what length cranks are you running? I usually run 175s but I'm considering 170s on this next bike for clearance when pedaling through rocks and such.
    I'm running it in the factory setting, which is LOW. I have 175mm cranks. I strike some rocks, but not a big deal. I was considering 170s, but I've always run 175s.

    It will be interested to see the trade off when(if) I switch it to the HIGH setting.

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    I'm 5'10 should I go m or l size?
    any known issues with Spartan frame?

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    I am 5'8 and have a medium with a 30mm stem. seems spot on for me.

    Quality of the carbon frame version I have seems very high. No issues so far but I have only had mine a month. very happy with it.

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    What the weight of the carbon version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rave81 View Post
    What the weight of the carbon version?
    6.6 pounds according to the Devinci website.

    8 pounds for the alloy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Handle View Post
    6.6 pounds according to the Devinci website.

    8 pounds for the alloy.
    What about complete bike with xx1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rave81 View Post
    What about complete bike with xx1?
    Well, don't think they have a model with xx1. The RR model is 29.2 pounds.

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    I just got to ride one of these this week here in Utah and I must say, this bike impressed me more than I expected it to. Enough so, that I bought a friends lightly used AL one. This was right after buying and spending some time on a YT Capra Pro. I love both bikes and will be doing back to backs for a while on these before I deem one king over the other but first impressions are that, although both are great climbers for the travel they have, the Spartan seems to have a little better climbing geometry and climbs as efficiently without the pedaling platform engaged whereas on the YT I feel like I need to flip the climbing platform switch (and keep in mind the YT is lighter and a higher end build than the Spartan). The Spartan seems to also react more efficiently when standing up on sprinting climbs to eek out that little extra oompf when needed. On descending, their both fast but the YT seems almost too slack for tighter corners if it's not a super steep trail (I have yet to get the Spartain on something really steep but the YT kills in that kind of terrain). Even with the Spartan in the slack mode it feels snappier around the corners than the YT. I hate to say it, because it's a beautiful bike, but there's a chance I might sell the YT. The verdict is still out though and in the meantime, I'll ride them both. For what it's worth, if anyone is looking for a med Spartan in the Alloy version then I'm actually thinking I might upgrade to the carbon frame so if someone wants a deal on the frame then hit me up.

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    Anyone here using an angleset to slacken the bike? Seems like it would lessen the BB drop and keep the chain stay shorter? Is that even possible with this frame?

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    She's complete now...

    The only changes I expect to make are tires once the Nobby Nic's wear out (I typically run a Hans Dampf in the front)... Thanks to Uncle Cliffy for the info on Slik Graphics for the fork.


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    Love my Spartan!

    Switched from Hans Dampf to Minion DHF front and rear, and a Vivid Air R2C. I'd like to replace the Jalco's with some carbon, but for now these will do the trick. I absolutely love this bike! Fantastic traction on the climbs, pedals fine without a lockout. It doesn't feel quite as supportive when climbing or hammering out of the saddle as my Mojo HDR, but then on the way down it feels like I have more traction. Descending, it's awesome. Super active but feels bottomless and composed on the big hits. I really dig the geometry and the stiffness and the way this bike handles corners, it's got that kind of feel where the faster you go, the harder you lean it, the better it feels.
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    vivid air

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinC View Post
    Switched from Hans Dampf to Minion DHF front and rear, and a Vivid Air R2C. I'd like to replace the Jalco's with some carbon, but for now these will do the trick. I absolutely love this bike! Fantastic traction on the climbs, pedals fine without a lockout. It doesn't feel quite as supportive when climbing or hammering out of the saddle as my Mojo HDR, but then on the way down it feels like I have more traction. Descending, it's awesome. Super active but feels bottomless and composed on the big hits. I really dig the geometry and the stiffness and the way this bike handles corners, it's got that kind of feel where the faster you go, the harder you lean it, the better it feels.

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    how are you liking the vivid air on the spartan? iv been contemplating getting a vivid air for the spartan with some offset bushings to slacken it a bit further for bike park riding. So far the bike is amazing! great for big alaska hike a bike epics!

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    I went a couple months between riding the bike with the Monarch and with the Vivid on it, so unfortunately I can't really comment on how much improvement there is between the two. I will say I'm super happy with the Vivid Air. My thinking was the only downside is it's a little heavier and has no lockout lever. I never use the lockout anyway since it's a DW suspension design and the bike pedals great without it. And of course the Vivid gives more tuning options to get it set up just right.

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    ^^That Devinci is a work of art! Enjoy!

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    I finished putting mine together on Monday night and hit the trails last night. Need to tweak tire pressure and fork/shock but the fit felt really good and it climbed and descended very well.
    The rainbow paint scheme is absolutely stunning in the sun. I got multiple compliments on it.



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    Any deals to be had for frame only or is everyone paying full msrp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    Any deals to be had for frame only or is everyone paying full msrp?
    Wes Hayslip runs a small shop in Austin called Velorangutan. Call him and see what he says about pricing.
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    Anyone looking for a size large carbon?

    I just built up a Spartan ans thinking about selling I allready. It's an amazing bike and over the 3 days I have on it, it has proved to be increadibly capable.

    i live in Maine and it just doesn't get enough use. It's mostly flat techy xc so I spend a majority of my time on a 100mm 29er.

    Anyways here's the specs:

    Size large carbon frame(black/white)
    Pike dual position
    Xt cranks
    Xt brakes, 180mm ice tech rotors
    Reverb stealth
    780mm v2 bars
    Raceface stem(renthal availble also)
    Mrp AMG
    30t wolf tooth ring
    Zee rear derailuer
    Xt casette
    Minion dhf/dhr 2 exo casing
    2 wheel options depending on price. Either the stock jalco/formula or DT EX471 laced to 240 hubs

    Frame was wraped in 3m scotch gard film and I fabricated a custom full lenght carbon downtube guard for it.

    Price has not bee set but I will sell it for a very fair price if someone is interested pm me or email me at [email protected]

    This is just a feeler as I have a kingdom trails trip planned for the 4th of July that I want to ride it on. It will be on the market after that.

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    Just installed a bottomless token from a Solo Air Pike into the Dual Position Air that came on my Spartan SX. (Bored the center and cut a slot into it.)

    Big improvement. I can run 20psi less in the fork so it's smoother over the small stuff and now the progression in the spring matches the rear nicely. Feels balanced.

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    Got my Spartan frame ordered! Thanks to Anita Handle for the info about Velorangutan.
    The only thing I'm trying to decide on is the seatpost.
    On all my other bikes I'm running the Specialized Command Post. But Specialized doesn't make the internal routed post in 31.6 so I'm trying to decide if I'm willing to run a shim with the seatpost or just get a reverb stealth in 31.6
    The biggest pro with the command post is that I've been using them for like 3 years so I'm very familiar with its operation. Would you guys run a seatpost shim in your carbon frame?
    The reverb seems to have had some issues earlier on but the latest batch seems to be pretty problem free?
    Also, the reverb comes in 420mm or 380mm length for the 125mm drop. I'm about 5'9" and got a medium frame. I think I can get the 380mm length post but wondering if the 420mm will fit(seems like easier to get better price on the 420mm post)? Can someone with a medium frame measure the seat tube length from the pivot to the top of the seat tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    Got my Spartan frame ordered! Thanks to Anita Handle for the info about Velorangutan.
    The only thing I'm trying to decide on is the seatpost.
    On all my other bikes I'm running the Specialized Command Post. But Specialized doesn't make the internal routed post in 31.6 so I'm trying to decide if I'm willing to run a shim with the seatpost or just get a reverb stealth in 31.6
    The biggest pro with the command post is that I've been using them for like 3 years so I'm very familiar with its operation. Would you guys run a seatpost shim in your carbon frame?
    The reverb seems to have had some issues earlier on but the latest batch seems to be pretty problem free?
    Also, the reverb comes in 420mm or 380mm length for the 125mm drop. I'm about 5'9" and got a medium frame. I think I can get the 380mm length post but wondering if the 420mm will fit(seems like easier to get better price on the 420mm post)? Can someone with a medium frame measure the seat tube length from the pivot to the top of the seat tube?
    You bought from Wes? Nice!

    Regarding your question about the post, I might email Devinci and ask which length they spec, assuming it's not listed on the website. I emailed them to ask about the rear brake mount and they happily replied within 24 hrs. Probably even the next morning.

    It uses a post mount 160, in case it helps, same as the Pike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    Got my Spartan frame ordered! Thanks to Anita Handle for the info about Velorangutan.
    The only thing I'm trying to decide on is the seatpost.
    On all my other bikes I'm running the Specialized Command Post. But Specialized doesn't make the internal routed post in 31.6 so I'm trying to decide if I'm willing to run a shim with the seatpost or just get a reverb stealth in 31.6
    The biggest pro with the command post is that I've been using them for like 3 years so I'm very familiar with its operation. Would you guys run a seatpost shim in your carbon frame?
    Two things: First, yes I would use a shim on carbon, the most picky, control freak mechanics I know have all used sliced up soda cans for shims, even on carbon. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.

    Second - I would also not even worry about this and just use the Reverb that is speced with the build. I myself prefered the Thompson dropper I had on a previous bike but the Spartan came with the Reverb and I've noticed nothing that makes me unhappy about it. The Thompson doesn't wiggle when you pick up the bike by the saddle like the Reverb but in actual operations it's identical.

    The only real complaint I have about the Reverb is the larger realestate on the handlebar it takes up, and that it comes with a star allen instead of a standard 2.5/3/4mm allen key, which I don't have on my trail multitool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Handle View Post
    You bought from Wes? Nice!

    Regarding your question about the post, I might email Devinci and ask which length they spec, assuming it's not listed on the website. I emailed them to ask about the rear brake mount and they happily replied within 24 hrs. Probably even the next morning.

    It uses a post mount 160, in case it helps, same as the Pike.

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    I actually dealt with Ryan but yeah velorangutan hooked me up.
    I submitted the questions about the shim and seapost size on DEVINCI
    We'll see if they respond.

    @Polishtea. I purchased the frame only so no seatpost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Handle View Post
    You bought from Wes? Nice!

    Regarding your question about the post, I might email Devinci and ask which length they spec, assuming it's not listed on the website. I emailed them to ask about the rear brake mount and they happily replied within 24 hrs. Probably even the next morning.

    It uses a post mount 160, in case it helps, same as the Pike.

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    How did you contact Devinci? Through the "contact" link on their website?
    I sent them some questions using that link a couple of days ago and no replies so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    How did you contact Devinci? Through the "contact" link on their website?
    I sent them some questions using that link a couple of days ago and no replies so far
    Yes, that worked for me very well for two questions I had, one before purchasing and one after. Both were answered really quickly.

    That said, here is the email for the person who responded the second time, perhaps a direct email might result in a faster reply.
    [email protected]

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho View Post
    The only changes I expect to make are tires once the Nobby Nic's wear out (I typically run a Hans Dampf in the front)... Thanks to Uncle Cliffy for the info on Slik Graphics for the fork.

    Now that is one beautiful bike.

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    I FINALLY got a third dirt ride on my Spartan last night, the rain has thrown a wrench into many a recent ride plan. I'm loving this bike. It climbs WAY better than it has any business doing. I'd say it climbs as good as or better than my Stumpy 29er. Traction is great and the geometry associated with 160mm of travel does not hinder. I feel like I'm in a great position for climbing, pretty much up to my strength and skill as to whether I can make it up something.

    Heading downward is fantastic but it should be on a bike like this. Starting to feel good on the slower technical ups and downs as well.

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    My mediums carbon frame came in yesterday. Frame with headset cup and maxle was 7.7 lbs. total bike weight came in right about 30 lbs so a bit heavier than I expected. The frame came with the low setting so I'm gonna keep it there for now. How much sag front and rear are ppl Running on their Spartan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    My mediums carbon frame came in yesterday. Frame with headset cup and maxle was 7.7 lbs. total bike weight came in right about 30 lbs so a bit heavier than I expected. The frame came with the low setting so I'm gonna keep it there for now. How much sag front and rear are ppl Running on their Spartan?
    I run mine in the high setting and also run less sag than recommended (25% or less) on the Pike and Monach...

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    Went on the first ride in the Spartan today. The trail had a initial 5 mile 1k elevation gain on a mixed asphalt/fire road/single track surface. I definitely felt the additional weight compared to my 5010 but otherwise I thought the Spartan climbed just as well as my 5010, as long as I stayed seated. Standing and mashing definitely resulted in much more bob. After the climb, I descended a single track for about 2 miles and there the Spartan really shined. It was very confidence inspiring for me. After that I descended a 3 mile flow trail. Again here the bike felt really composed and I felt in very good control. Unfortunately about half way down both my brakes were not working well so I had to take it easy Yeh rest of the way. After the flow trail it was a 3.5 mile 800ft grind back to the car. Again, as long as I sat and spin I felt like the bike pedaled as well asy 5010 but I did feel the extra weight. After I got home and uploaded the ride to strava and did some comparison, I PR'd the flow trail section by over a minute and on the climbs I was not much slower than on my 5010.
    I still have to tweak the suspension a bit and maybe mess with saddle position but overall I'm really happy I decided to get the Spartan. I guess the only knock is the heavy weight.
    The build is as follows:
    Spartan carbon frame
    Fox F34 fork with 2015 FIT damper
    1x10 with wolf tooth 40 tooth giant cog and absolute black 32 tooth oval chain ring.
    Magura MT8 brakes
    Specialized command post dropper(temporary until I can get a internal routed one)
    Derby rims with butcher front and purgatory rear tires.
    Total weight 30lbs or a couple ounces under 30.

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    Here is my Spartan Carbon built up.

    I had two short rides with Spartan . First ride impression of the Spartan is pedals fairly well , feels flickable , playful and relaxed in the air .
    The Spartan pedals as well as my Balance and Nomad3 .

    For comparison Spartan Carbon Large Frame weight is 3.565 kg with rear shock, seat clamp, downtube alloy skid plate (90 gram) and rear axel . My sold Nomad3 Large frame weight was 3.165 kg . The weight difference between Spartan and Nomad3 is 400 gram . My favorite bike Canfield Brothers Balance Large weight is 3.595 kg w/o rear shock.

    My Spartan's weight is ended up 13.190 kg.

    I'm around 6'2" and the Large frame is perfect for me for all around riding. Spartan have a little bit shorter TT then the Nomad3 and Balance . I dont really felt shorter.

    I have to ride it on some local enduro trails and see how it descents
    The Spartan looks awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3dmimar View Post
    Here is my Spartan Carbon built up.

    I had two short rides with Spartan . First ride impression of the Spartan is pedals fairly well , feels flickable , playful and relaxed in the air .
    The Spartan pedals as well as my Balance and Nomad3 .

    For comparison Spartan Carbon Large Frame weight is 3.565 kg with rear shock, seat clamp, downtube alloy skid plate (90 gram) and rear axel . My sold Nomad3 Large frame weight was 3.165 kg . The weight difference between Spartan and Nomad3 is 400 gram . My favorite bike Canfield Brothers Balance Large weight is 3.595 kg w/o rear shock.

    My Spartan's weight is ended up 13.190 kg.

    I'm around 6'2" and the Large frame is perfect for me for all around riding. Spartan have a little bit shorter TT then the Nomad3 and Balance . I dont really felt shorter.

    I have to ride it on some local enduro trails and see how it descents
    The Spartan looks awesome

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    Interesting! I was trying to decide between the Canfield Balance and the Devinci Spartan. Ultimately I decided to get the Devinci because it is available in Carbon.
    Looks like the Spartan is only about 500 grams lighter than the Balance(weight of the DB Air).
    I'm glad you think the Spartan pedals just as well as the Balance and would be very interested in your opinion on the comparison between Balance and Spartan on descents.

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    I forgot to mention, I heard back from Devinci after about a week. They responded with the Reverb spec'ed for the Medium Spartan is 380mm and using a seatpost shim will not void the warranty as long as it was installed correctly(minimum insertion, grease, torque, etc)

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    Finally got my Spartan and finished the build Thursday night. With more than average rainfall I have only got 7 miles on the bike so far. Over all it rides amazing I just have to get it dialed.

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    Just received and assembled my build i ordered from Fanatik. I am stoked on taking it out in the wild tomorrow.

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    Yesterdays ride went very well. 100 degrees with a heat index of 107 but the Spartan made me want to keep going. So worth it!
    It is true what they say about it climbs really well when you stay in the saddle! The only "Complaint" I have is I wish it was a little more progressive in the rear. But that will come with tweaking.
    I can't wait till I get home from work this weekend to take it out again and try some more aggressive trails.
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    I have been very impressed with the Spartan. I've spent a lot of time on a lot of different terrain on both the carbon and aluminum frames. I am really happy with the SX 1-by setup but would have liked to have had the nice DTSwiss wheels that came on the RC (a lower priced build kit). A lot of people comment about weight, but I am sure that if I could afford some lighter wheels and tires, that would make a huge difference. I did upgrade my suspension to fox, and the fork is for sure lighter. I've tried the intelligent link in both positions... I like it low all the time, like a little slope bike. Rails corners and gets air off almost anything! I am amazed everyday by how great these bikes climb... I don't like comparing but I'd say this just might be the best enduro/all mountain bike I have ridden (tried nearly all of of them too!). The pricing is also great and the bikes are made in Canada, what's not to love?

    - Lindsay

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    Anyone running 170mm cranks? I finally got my second ride on my Spartan on a trail that I'm very familiar with. The thing that stood out the most is all the pedal strikes I got. And this is with the shock in the high position. Was thinking of putting the shock in the low position but get 170mm cranks for a net 2mm lower crank arm as compared to the shock in high position and 175mm cranks

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    ok nvm. I looked through the thread and saw that the bike actually comes with 170mm cranks. guess I'm in the market for 170mm crankset

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    Feel stupid I have to post to ask this - I've gotten a chance to ride a spartan, and while I'm not unfamiliar with mountain riding, this suspention chip has me confused. The lower setting looks like it should increase the reach but it's it supposed to decrease it?

    Which one is 'high', which one is 'low'?

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RealFred View Post
    Feel stupid I have to post to ask this - I've gotten a chance to ride a spartan, and while I'm not unfamiliar with mountain riding, this suspention chip has me confused. The lower setting looks like it should increase the reach but it's it supposed to decrease it?

    Which one is 'high', which one is 'low'?
    I was confused too. But I got the manual for the Spartan and it explains. When the bolt is lower, that's the "high" position. When the bolt is higher, that's the "low" position.
    I thought my frame came from the factory set in the "low" position since the bolt was lower in the hole but as it turned out that's actually the "high" position, haha

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    Hey guys, just wanted to chime in here. I just ordered a medium Spartan Carbon XP through Steed Cycles in North Vancouver, BC. They're running a sale where the 2015 bikes are 20% off. Converted to US dollars, I paid about 2700 dollars. I think that's quite the steal. Really excited to have the bike soon!

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    Almost done just waiting for couple of parts then i get to ride it.

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    She arrived today! I hope to have her ready to ride by Wednesday afternoon...

    Chromag Scarab pedals, and I have a Chromag Fubar OSX that I hope to put on too!


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    She's pretty much ready to go.... Excited to ride!


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    Hey there, anyone knows of any changes made to the 2016 version of the Spartan? Currently looking into getting one. Banshee Rune rider from the heart here, so not an easy decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindPatterns View Post
    Hey there, anyone knows of any changes made to the 2016 version of the Spartan? Currently looking into getting one. Banshee Rune rider from the heart here, so not an easy decision
    I've been looking around but haven't seen anything. I doubt they would make any big changes though since this frame is only 1 year old and new moulds cost a lot of money.....of course I could be totally wrong and they could tweak the geometry to give it a more "new school" geometry like they did with the Troy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roastpuff View Post
    She's pretty much ready to go.... Excited to ride!

    Looking good! Can you check to see if the crank arms are 170mm or 175mm?

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Anybody else have issues with the rockshox monarch shock? I'm about 160-165 ready to ride and I was running my shock around 210psi. Today towards the end of my ride I started feeling like the rear got really soft and started pedal striking everything. When I got home I noticed I had massive sag and when I connected my shock pump to it the pressure was way down. I then proceeded to pump it back up to 210 and for the first few cycles the shock felt like it didn't want to compress. Then after bouncing the bike a few times seems like the shock is back to normal and so far holding pressure. Not sure what to make of this. Guess I'll ride it again and see if it does it again

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    It's not, it won't be.

    Saw this happen on a Monarch speced on a Nomad recently. Started with dropping pressure over a ride, found a leak. Fixed Leak. Started dropping pressure over a ride, found another leak in the piggyback. Fixed leak. Started dropping pressure, whole damn thing fell apart and was replaced.

    Get that warranty/replacement paperwork going, you're gonna need it.

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    Bottle cage

    I usually use my Evoc back pack for enduro allmountain rides.
    Bottle cage assembled to the downtube alloy skid plate for daily rides.
    You just need a tap & drill set 5.0mm and drill. I used 5.0mm disc bolt for the assembley.
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    Been on my spartan a couple months now and finally did the exact same thing with the downtube guard cage. Much better than carrying a pack.
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    I also had a similar problem with my original monarch where it was slowly leaking air each ride. Serviced it and replaced the o-rings and the air stopped leaking. Was curious if anyone has tried running offset bushings or an angleset in their frame?
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    Anyone know what size seat post binder the carbon frame takes? Couldn't find it on the Devinci site. I've got a frame coming and it looks like it's not a QR. Even with a dropper, I need a QR.

    edit: Found it, 37mm. Now I just need to decode the headset standards, haven't bought a bike without one already installed in quite a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice View Post
    Anyone know what size seat post binder the carbon frame takes? Couldn't find it on the Devinci site. I've got a frame coming and it looks like it's not a QR. Even with a dropper, I need a QR.

    edit: Found it, 37mm. Now I just need to decode the headset standards, haven't bought a bike without one already installed in quite a while.
    I think all the frames came with the headset and seat collar

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    I think all the frames came with the headset and seat collar
    Got my frame, does indeed come with headset, so that is sorted. I still want a QR seat collar instead of the fixed one it comes with, and found that it's a 37mm seat collar.

    Got one good ride on the new frame with all the parts from my last bike. Holy crap is this things fun. Great climber, great descender, snaps the corners, easy to manual over roots/rocks, good progressive travel so didn't bottom out, way smoother over chunks than my old bike, and fits me well. Best frame I've ever ridden, by far. Super stoked on this so far, even though I'm a bit of a believer in "its the rider, not the horse".

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    Quick question for you guys.
    When I lift my back wheel and drop it from about 8 inches (leaving the front wheel on the ground) I get a loud cracking noise. I have tried and tried to fix it but I can't find where it is coming from. My headset and bottom bracket are tight as is everything else. Do you guys have this with your Spartan's? I wonder if this is just a noise the bike naturally makes. It is too loud to be internal cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralfcarestia View Post
    Quick question for you guys.
    When I lift my back wheel and drop it from about 8 inches (leaving the front wheel on the ground) I get a loud cracking noise. I have tried and tried to fix it but I can't find where it is coming from. My headset and bottom bracket are tight as is everything else. Do you guys have this with your Spartan's? I wonder if this is just a noise the bike naturally makes. It is too loud to be internal cables.
    I just tried doing that but didn't hear any cracking noise...maybe the split pivot bearing is going bad? or the du bushing on the shock? not sure

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    Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!

    Curious as to how these compare to a Bronson. The geometry was similar it seems and I took one for a parking lot test ride nice a lot more active suspension. I'd be interested in changing out the Bronson for one as a fork and shock upgrade are going to be costly.




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    Thanks for checking. Turns out there was some air in my damper body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaen View Post
    Curious as to how these compare to a Bronson. The geometry was similar it seems and I took one for a parking lot test ride nice a lot more active suspension.
    A Spartan is comparable to the Nomad, not the Bronson exactly. So the same comparisons between the Nomad and the Bronson apply to the Spartan.

    Heavier build quality, longer travel, more aggressive, lower, slacker, theoretically harder to climb with.

    In any case, if you know you're not looking for a 100-120mm XC build, you should be on a 6" travel bike, they're just better in every conceivable way when you're going downhill.

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    That's even better news that it is like the nomad. Don't get me wrong I love my Bronson but cost to upgrade the shock/forks (which stupidly I should have just bought the better spec level for the bike when I bought it), I can get into one for a good price, plus it's a new bike!

    My riding tends to be more AM here in the PNW (Vancouver island) then bike park, but I'm a bigger guy so I want a bit beefier suspension setup for the 3-4 foot drops/etc, I'm currently blowing through my Bronsons travel (fox 34 fork, and rp23 air can), when going through some chatter and the riding I want to progress into has me wanting a bit different setup. The Spartan felt a lot better just riding around the parking lot and taking curb drops/ small jumps off of a few items. Plus I liked the more active/plush feel of the suspension. It also has a lot better shock and fork then my al Bronson does. I'm hoping to try out a guys personal Spartan on a trail ride to see if it is a fit on the trail for me here shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    I was confused too. But I got the manual for the Spartan and it explains. When the bolt is lower, that's the "high" position. When the bolt is higher, that's the "low" position.
    I thought my frame came from the factory set in the "low" position since the bolt was lower in the hole but as it turned out that's actually the "high" position, haha
    Thank you for sharing this photo. I bought an XP AL demo bike today for $2200+T and I forgot to ask which setting was high/low. I'm super stoked to have a modern bike. my 2011 Uzzi wasn't super out of date, but it was falling behind the times (and resale value). It was time to let it go before it lost even more value.

    Here's mine with the stock build. I forgot to take a pic while I was out on the trail.



    *Added RaceFace Strafe grips in green. They might be a bit too chunky, but i'll give 'em a go before getting something else.
    *Adding Chromag Contact pedals.
    *RaceFace NW 30t ring is on order.

    Some thoughts after a quick demo ride down Unemploytment Line and Atomic Dog at Galbraith Mountain in Bellingham.
    *The tires are looking pretty haggard. The reviews of the hans dampfs shedding knob appears to be valid. I haven't lost any knobs, but many look like they are barely holding on.
    *The SDG saddle is one of the hardest i've sat on. Will probably replace that as well. I've gotten on well with the WTB offerings and will look at those. I'll try adjusting the SDG to see if that helps at all.
    *I wish I had a right hand lever/button for the reverb. I like having it under the bar on the left side.
    *The Deore brakes don't feel any different from the SLX brakes I had on my Uzzi. I'm happy about this.
    *The Monarch RC3 is pretty great. I set it on firm for a fire road climb and eliminated any bob that was already minimal. It felt nice on the trail i rode. It had a mix of buff singletrack, jumps, and some roots. It wasn't quite as plush as my Push'd DHX 5 on my uzzi, but it was still pretty dang good.
    *Pike was pretty nice. didn't have any brake dive like my Talas 180. I didn't spend any time adjusting rebound and will have to find the right setting for compression.
    *Jumping was ok and felt natural, but I didn't try super hard to clear anything. I was on unfamiliar trail, on an unfamiliar bike, and all alone. I figured I ought to reduce as much risk as possible.

    Overall I'm happy to join the party and I'm really looking forward to getting it on some of my familiar trails.

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    Just curious how much pressure you guys are running on your shock to get the recommended 25% sag?
    Can you guys list your approximate weight and shock pressure?
    The reason why I'm asking is because recently my shock seemed to leak about 50psi on rides so I contacted the shop where I bought the frame and they contacted Sram. Instead of warrantying the shock, Sram suggested changing out the seals first to see if that fixes the issue. So I did that today and its weird because after the seal replacement I now need much LESS pressure to achieve the same sag?
    Before the seal replacement(Since I got the frame in June,2015) I needed about 205 psi to get 25% sag while in attack position and about 30% sitting.
    After seal replacement, I only need about 160psi to get the same sag. I'm about 160-165 lbs.
    anyway, just curious to know what pressure others are running to try and see if my shock had a bad seal from the factory or if I did something wrong when I replaced the seals.

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    I weigh about 205 (without gear) and need about 235psi. Though once I did release the air and on the ensuing repressurization, it seemed to need less to reach the same sag and then over the next couple of rides, the sag increased and I had to add more pressure until I was back at a higher pressure again. I guessed that there's a negative chamber or some other air circuit that takes a few strokes to get pressurized, leaving less pressure in the mean chamber. But that is a wild ass guess based on ignorance of how the shock works.

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    So check the sag in a few rides and see if you end up needing more pressure to achieve your desired sag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    The reason why I'm asking is because recently my shock seemed to leak about 50psi on rides
    When you hook up your shock pump your shock will lose air and read lower than it actually was. This is air from the shock "filling up" the pump. You don't lose air when you unscrew your shock pump from the bike.

    The only way to tell if your shock is leaking is by measuring sag over time with the o-ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice View Post
    When you hook up your shock pump your shock will lose air and read lower than it actually was. This is air from the shock "filling up" the pump. You don't lose air when you unscrew your shock pump from the bike.

    The only way to tell if your shock is leaking is by measuring sag over time with the o-ring.
    Shock was definitely loosing air. At the start of the ride I would be at 30% sag sitting Down. By the end of the ride it would be sagged past all the marks which is like 40%+ sag. Besides, I have a pump that allows me to disengage the valve so it doesn't leak air when I remove the pump

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    I just downloaded the Spartan Carbon manual from the Devinci website and it's the opposite of the page shown here.

    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    I was confused too. But I got the manual for the Spartan and it explains. When the bolt is lower, that's the "high" position. When the bolt is higher, that's the "low" position.
    I thought my frame came from the factory set in the "low" position since the bolt was lower in the hole but as it turned out that's actually the "high" position, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck View Post
    I just downloaded the Spartan Carbon manual from the Devinci website and it's the opposite of the page shown here.
    http://www.devinci.com/site_media/up...artan_____.pdf

    Looks the same to me. Where did you download yours?

    Finally getting a chance to flog it this weekend. Only did a demo ride near the shop trails and a short ride to get a feel for it on my own trails. Went tubeless and converted to 1x10 (30t). I'll probably lower the bars today as well. There are a lot of spacers underneath the stem and I could probably drop it down almost an inch.

    Edit: also forgot to mention the shop I got my bike from (fanatikbike.com) was in the middle of a warranty claim with Schwalbe when I bought the bike. I got a call last week that they needed some info from my tires and they'd be able to complete the claim. A day after sending them the info and photos, I had a new set of tires in my hands. I was thinking about selling them and getting the Minions that I wanted. In the end, I was impatient and just mounted them up. If they're really that bad, I'll just thrash 'em in the winter and get a new setup in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    http://www.devinci.com/site_media/up...artan_____.pdf

    Looks the same to me. Where did you download yours?

    Finally getting a chance to flog it this weekend. Only did a demo ride near the shop trails and a short ride to get a feel for it on my own trails. Went tubeless and converted to 1x10 (30t). I'll probably lower the bars today as well. There are a lot of spacers underneath the stem and I could probably drop it down almost an inch.

    Edit: also forgot to mention the shop I got my bike from (fanatikbike.com) was in the middle of a warranty claim with Schwalbe when I bought the bike. I got a call last week that they needed some info from my tires and they'd be able to complete the claim. A day after sending them the info and photos, I had a new set of tires in my hands. I was thinking about selling them and getting the Minions that I wanted. In the end, I was impatient and just mounted them up. If they're really that bad, I'll just thrash 'em in the winter and get a new setup in the spring.

    -joel
    Interesting! The Tech manual for the Spartan Carbon shows the opposite.
    http://www.devinci.com/site_media/up...bon_______.pdf

    Anyways, I submitted an e-mail to Devinci so hopefully they'll clear it up soon.
    I feel like the bike is slacker/lower with the bolt on the top though...

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    Oh interesting. looking forward to what they say. Make sure to send them both manuals. They'll need to fix one of them.

    Does any company make precut frame tape? This is the newest bike I've ever owned and would like to preserve some of the pretty on it.

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    Ready to start flogging too. Waiting for more 3m vinyl tape to show up so I can cover the entire frame. First carbon bike, and I thrash stuff.

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    Hey guys anyone around the 6'4" range throw a leg over or own this bike? Looking at doing a new build and I am super interested in the spartan but don't want it to feel to small.

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    holy low bottom bracket! Its going to take some getting used to this. One of the trails I rode had a lot of roots and I think I hit every single one. Granted, it was a flat trail that I'd never ridden before. Maybe I would've had the same pedal strikes as on my Uzzi. The bike felt great once things started heading downhill though.

    Some thoughts that might echo my earlier post
    I don't have a lot of faith in the Hans Dampfs. Even down below 28psi I didn't have a lot of confidence in the tires. While it never slipped out, it sure did feel like it was going to at any moment. I have had a lot more confidence rolling on Minions. Those were 26" so maybe that's the difference and I'm not used to 27.5" yet.

    This thing jumps and pops off of things better than I thought. There were a couple lips where I got more air than I had expected. I'm really excited about that. When I took it for the first ride on local trails it popped well, but not like it did the other day. Could just be I was feeling more comfortable on it.

    The SDG Fly is a terrible terrible saddle. I've ridden at least once every week since April. I haven't had a sore bum the whole time until this saddle. I had a WTB Pure and it had a lot of cush and still got out of the way when needed. I'll be on the lookout for another saddle soon.

    Deore is great! Though, I do have a Saint Shifter with a deore rear derailleur. It was left over from an old bike project so I popped it on. Feels crisper to shift with. The Deore brakes were great. I don't miss anything from the SLX brakes I was using on the Uzzi.

    Can't wait to flog it some more.

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    Loving the bike so far. I frame tapedthe whole thing with 3m since the paint on the carbon scratches really easy. Took hours to do.

    This thing is low, but no lower than my last bike. You'll get used to it. I'm in the low/slack settings with 175 cranks and I love it on both DH and xc rIdes.

    Hans Dampfs aren't great here in Cascadia. Run a Minion or Magic Mary on front. hDs are tolerable on the rear in the winter and will wear out fast so you can upgrade to something better pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice View Post
    Loving the bike so far. I frame tapedthe whole thing with 3m since the paint on the carbon scratches really easy. Took hours to do.

    This thing is low, but no lower than my last bike. You'll get used to it. I'm in the low/slack settings with 175 cranks and I love it on both DH and xc rIdes.

    Hans Dampfs aren't great here in Cascadia. Run a Minion or Magic Mary on front. hDs are tolerable on the rear in the winter and will wear out fast so you can upgrade to something better pretty soon.
    I agree with you that it takes some getting used to. I went and rode Predator at Tiger and didn't have any pedal strikes. That trail was a lot more of a hoot to ride on the Spartan than it was on the Uzzi I owned. Looking forward to getting out there again.

    I did a little more tweaking on the bike and its feeling more natural to me. Put on some 800mm bars and then also dropped the stem lower. Feels like I have more control over the front end. Could be placebo, but it felt much better. They were bars a friend gave to me and I wanted to try the width on the Devinci. I think I would enjoy more back sweep, but these felt good for at least the initial ride.

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    My new spartan, few rides in and loving it so far. 1X11 in the pipeline shortly but apart from that im super happy with it.

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    How are you guys doing rear derailleur cable routing? I had it going under the metal plate, but it was wearing into the carbon BB shell.

    Now I'm trying to run it through the way they show in the pics on the website, but it doesn't sit nicely into the groove on the chainstay near the cranks. There's a little threaded hole there, is there supposed to be some kind of guide that threads into it?

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    My Spartan!


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    what year is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice View Post
    How are you guys doing rear derailleur cable routing? I had it going under the metal plate, but it was wearing into the carbon BB shell.

    Now I'm trying to run it through the way they show in the pics on the website, but it doesn't sit nicely into the groove on the chainstay near the cranks. There's a little threaded hole there, is there supposed to be some kind of guide that threads into it?

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    Mine is routed similar to yours except more underneath and I have the chainstay protector to keep it mostly off the paint. On mine, the zip ties go through the holes instead of wrapping around the whole chain stay. I can take a pic later and share it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    what year is that?
    2016

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    gonna need more pics. I like the paint job.

    a spec list would be rad too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    gonna need more pics. I like the paint job.

    a spec list would be rad too.
    Spartan Carbon 2016
    Rock Shox Monarch Plus RC3 Debonair
    Rock Shox Pike RCT3 160mm with 3 tokens
    ENVE Carbon DH Cut to 770mm
    Kore 35mm Stem
    ODI Grips
    Shimano Saints Caliper with Shimano XTR M9000 Race Levers
    XX1 Group Set
    Chainguide e*thirteen XCX
    Absolute Black 32T Oval Chainring
    KMC X11SL Chain
    Shimano XTR Trail Pedals
    Hubs Chris King ISO Disc XD Ceramics
    Derby Wide Carbon Rims
    Front Tire Schwalbe Magic Marry 2.35
    Rear Tire WTB Trail Boss 2.4

    I don't have a picture with the new Chainring on.
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    yeah, that's a good looking bike right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    Mine is routed similar to yours except more underneath and I have the chainstay protector to keep it mostly off the paint. On mine, the zip ties go through the holes instead of wrapping around the whole chain stay. I can take a pic later and share it.
    Those are teeny, tiny holes to feed a zip tie through. I tried to run it more underneath along that groove, but it wouldn't stay there. I rode it this week as pictures, and even though it looks odd, it worked fine without noticeable heal rub on the cable.

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    There are different sizes of zip ties though. Mine came this way though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    There are different sizes of zip ties though. Mine came this way though.
    Thanks, that's helpful. I bet my holes will look bigger when I clean them out, I'm a "let it dry and brush it off" kind of guy when it comes to cleaning my bike, so the small holes are caked up fairly solidly.

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    All good. I'm a let it dry and fall off the next time I ride kind of guy. :P

    Though, I've never owned this new of a bike so I'm going to clean this up and take better care of it.

    I'm curious though, if the holes in the chain stay are just for zip ties. There's one on the non-drive side that is threaded. I looked around different sites and all of the AL frames seem to have it. Too small for internal routing. Maybe devinci does sell something that goes in there.

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    I've seen the under BB housing wear and have no idea why anyone would route it down there. I hope people are checking theirs and interested to hear what Devinci says about warranty for that.

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    Has anyone added a 42t extender cog on the XP Build? its a shimano hg50. Do I just need to cut the pin between 15/17 cogs? OneUp lists doing this on their site for the hg81, just not sure if its the same process.

    perhaps a question better asked in the drivetrain forum...

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    Is anyone riding their Spartans in the steeper angle? I always wonder how important something like the adjustable geometry is. I always feel like its a good selling point, but in practice, I set it in slack mode and leave it there. I haven't really done many long pedaling rides that didn't result in a long downhill. I think if I did that more, I'd consider swapping the geo back and forth.

    Also, to cycle back on my last post about cutting the pin. It was the same process and it works just ok. It rattles a little bit. I'll have to pull the wheel off and check the cassette. I've seen some xt cassettes going for pretty cheap, I may just grab one of those.

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    I am considering a spartan.....going back and forth between a md or a lg. I have sat on last years large..the top tube felt great but the stand over height was a little higher than i would have liked. I am 5'9 and change...but i prefer a longer top tube. I know they lengthened the troy for the 2016 season, did they also lengthen the Spartan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    Is anyone riding their Spartans in the steeper angle? I always wonder how important something like the adjustable geometry is. I always feel like its a good selling point, but in practice, I set it in slack mode and leave it there. I haven't really done many long pedaling rides that didn't result in a long downhill. I think if I did that more, I'd consider swapping the geo back and forth.

    Also, to cycle back on my last post about cutting the pin. It was the same process and it works just ok. It rattles a little bit. I'll have to pull the wheel off and check the cassette. I've seen some xt cassettes going for pretty cheap, I may just grab one of those.

    -joel
    I was riding in the slack mode for the last 9 months or so and recently swapped to flat pedals. I found myself striking pedals when going through rock gardens and slipping off the pedals so I tried switching to the steeper mode and I'm having better luck. Fewer strikes and it feels a bit more spunky on the climbs, which makes keeping up with your bros/bro-ettes a little easier when on rolling terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Handle View Post
    I was riding in the slack mode for the last 9 months or so and recently swapped to flat pedals. I found myself striking pedals when going through rock gardens and slipping off the pedals so I tried switching to the steeper mode and I'm having better luck. Fewer strikes and it feels a bit more spunky on the climbs, which makes keeping up with your bros/bro-ettes a little easier when on rolling terrain.
    great real world info. i am thinking other than at resorts I will most likely have mine in the high setting most of the time for the reasons you list

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    ive also noticed for your typical trail riding the steep mode on Spartan also makes the bike a little more playful and snappy like trail bikes were a few years back , but im also not a huge fan of how crazy low and long the bikes are getting.

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    Man, those yellow wheels look so good on there.

    Maybe ill give the steep mode a shot. I forgot about the change in bb height. Though, I think when I test rode, it was in steep mode and I didn't like it quite as much. Now that I know the bike a little better, ill be able to get a better feel for it.

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    I started in High mode. switched to low for a day and never went back

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    can't wait to get mine!!

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    There seems to be a lack of recent photos, so adding one.

    Spartan by Joel Miranda, on Flickr

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    Hi all,

    New Spartan owner (second hand bike). I am thinking of going 1x11 as have 1x10. Has anyone done this, or can it be done?

    Having read reviews I was a bit hesitant about how it climbs but I think it climbs pretty well. Plus for me, riding to the top is so I can smash down and it does down well.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cide10 View Post
    Hi all,

    New Spartan owner (second hand bike). I am thinking of going 1x11 as have 1x10. Has anyone done this, or can it be done?

    Having read reviews I was a bit hesitant about how it climbs but I think it climbs pretty well. Plus for me, riding to the top is so I can smash down and it does down well.

    Cheers
    Works brilliantly with 1x11, that's what I'm running. 30 tooth cog on a SRAM 10-42 cluster, and I never run out of top end speed in the 30x10.

    The Spartan is a really solid climber. I only have 2 bikes, the Sparty and a DH sled that I only use for bike parks, so it's my ride on everything from local pedal-DH runs to big xc days with 5k climbing.

    It's a very efficient and neutral climber, good at the technical punchy bits too. The only thing that holds back some Spartans is they were spec'd with boat anchor rims. I have good rims on there, so find it super efficient. On huge rides - high country epics where I know I'll be in pain and riding a couple days in a row, I'll sometimes switch out the Minion on the back for a lighter, faster tire like a Specialized Purgatory. I still keep a DHF or Magic Mary on the front, I find the rear is the important tire for big pedal days.

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    Yeah, you can run 11sp. You have the chain ring size as a variable to work with if you find climbing to be too burdensome. I run a 28t and could probably run a 30t just fine. The bike climbs well for having 165mm of rear travel but heavy wheels and Enduro tires will make it feel slower. Also, it's no trail or XC race bike, climbing position isn't exactly ideal, so don't expect it to fly up hills like a XC bike.

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    Thanks both. Really appreciate it and will look into it when I get the bike soon. Currently has 1x10 with a 30t front ring. Rims are new, lighter and tubeless which is good as its going to be my do it all bike.

    Quick follow up question, how tall are you and what size you riding. I am 5'9 and getting a medium but was worried about it being on the small side.

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    I'm 6' and ended up choosing an XL after demo'ing a large. the large felt like it put me too far back which made the bike dive rearward when hitting a steep pitch or large ledge. I could probably make a large work but the XL fits fairly well. I do wish it had a shorter seat tube at times to allow for a lower seat when the seatpost is dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Handle View Post
    I'm 6' and ended up choosing an XL after demo'ing a large. the large felt like it put me too far back which made the bike dive rearward when hitting a steep pitch or large ledge. I could probably make a large work but the XL fits fairly well. I do wish it had a shorter seat tube at times to allow for a lower seat when the seatpost is dropped.
    6'2" on a Large. I was concerned about it being too short, but totally happy with it after 9 moths, and it has a longer reach than my last ride. Didn't want the long seat tube of the XL. No regrets on my purchase at all.

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    I'd been riding a too-small medium specialized Stumpjumper for the last few years and wanted something a bit more stretched out. I'd made the stumpy work and I actually still ride it but I was leery of getting a bike that was too short. Like I said, I might have been able to adjust suspension settings and stem length to make a large work.

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    Hello guys,

    I am trying to find out the tune on the monarch plus that comes on the spartan. If anyone has that handy I would greatly appreciate!!
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by prestigemtb View Post
    Hello guys,

    I am trying to find out the tune on the monarch plus that comes on the spartan. If anyone has that handy I would greatly appreciate!!
    Cheers
    The tune is M/M.
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    Havent seen a spartan post in a,while, so here's my 2016 Spartan. Have had it a couple weeks. Digging it so far...

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    After seeing the new Nomad, I'm still very glad I have my Spartan. I was told it was the first carbon large in Oregon and I've ridden it through hell and back and then some. Long days in the saddle, hardcore shuttle days, air travel twice, everything in between - slayed with the best and pedaled to the top of things a bike it's size and weight have no business doing.

    I'm still inlove with this bike, and even more so now that I've finally ditched the 2x10 from the XP build to a 1x11 with a One-Up shark 50t and a raceface crank and 34t front ring. I did shorten the cranks as I was having some pedal strike crashes with the sag I like. Oh - and I got rid of the Monarch that kept losing leaking air for an eleven six coil Bring out the Devinci Spartan!!-img_9323.jpg

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    Oh wow, how much of an improvement did the eleven six make?? Not that it would be in the cards to spend that much a shock but I am really really curious about your experience.

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    Honestly - after seeing the costs of multiple rebuilds my friends with Monarchs on other bikes bought around the same time and the associated downtime delt with - the eleven six was very nearly the economical choice. I probably could have bought a CaneCreek DBair or a DB Coil with a climb switch but.... it was only a few more $$$ to go to the eleven six, which is just flat out known as 'the best'

    Personally - the difference is all in the linear response compared to an air shock, big hits go squuuuuuuuuish now and not "squuuISH" if you get my meaning. It feels endless. I haven't played around much from the factory tune (well factory set personal tune, they set it just for your riding style) but it's dual settings are amazing for me. I love how it feels both climbing and ripping decent. I do miss a more medium "trail" mode for more mild days with short punchy climbs mid downhill lap, but overall, it's a fantastic piece.

    I should have mentioned that I ditched the rims and hubs before it even left the shop from the initial build up. Lightbike carbon hoops on 240 hubs.

    I don't see the Firebird or the new Nomad making me want a new bike for a long time yet. I most recently wore out my brake rotors, I've never had a bike so long that I managed to wear down both of them before I wanted to go shopping again.

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    Sounds like a winner. I also went with 240s and LB rims on my build. Ended up cracking my rear rim and switching to Stan's since I found it a bit expensive to swap a rim from a relatively mild rock ping. But they're really nice feeling.

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