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    Anybody do some races yet?

    Serious lack of activity in this forum, cross season is in full swing. Anyone getting out there?

    Post up some stories, or pics, or new cross bike stuff you bought, or brag about your big trophy. Stoke it up people.

    The only pro cross race I watched so far this year was good stuff. Some ladies tearing it up and going HARD! Also some crazy fans, like the guy that was cheering on the riders by playing his Trombone?!?! Totally random and hilarious.

    DH has chainsaws, cyclocross has trombones. (apparently, what happened to cowbells?)

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    ^^Nice bling!

    I got a few races in already with mostly poor results. A little behind with my training, I've been doing a lot of volume but not enough intensity and its definitely hurting me. Dry, dusty, rough, and hot NorCal cross is brutal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Train Wreck View Post
    ^^Nice bling!

    I got a few races in already with mostly poor results. A little behind with my training, I've been doing a lot of volume but not enough intensity and its definitely hurting me. Dry, dusty, rough, and hot NorCal cross is brutal.
    I feel ya, I'm in great endurance shape but haven't done much short, high intensity riding in a while. That first race hurt.

    It was also pretty hot here, for me that makes it so much worse. Bring on the cold, rain, snow, mud, etc. I'm ready. That's what proper cross races are to me, and I know it's coming...
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    No races yet, but we've been doing wednesday nite practices for several weeks. Fun stuff. The first race of the season in this area is next weekend. Looking forward to it.
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    1 DNF and 2 DFLs so far! I'm also doing singlespeed. The only time I've ever raced cross before signing up for this season was when I raced a beater fixie once years ago. Fall is crazy work-wise so this is keeping me on a bike. But no time to train.

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    I have had 2 races so far and have had good but not great results. That feeling of I know my fitness has been and can be better. I think the theme of endurance is not great CX training was felt loud and clear for me. I excited to see the weather change and hope to be in top shape in mid November. I look forward to cool rainy intervals.

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    We've had several near Seattle, I've done 2 races. I picked one of the local series and I'm just doing that one, 6 races. Both were wet, 2nd one was pretty slick. I did more road riding workouts this summer (I usually do mostly mtb) and hooked up with some local faster road guys for a weekly high-intensity workout, I think that has helped me, it's 'easier' to do the maximum intensity workouts with others. I've had a 7th and a 4th so far in Cat 1/2 45+masters, those are better finishes than typical, but it's difficult to tell if I'm faster; slightly smaller race group, but everyone is excited about Nationals being in our region so I think a lot of guys are pretty sharp right now. That's me throwing the 'roost' on the old sworks, where else but cx can a 12 year old bike be competitive?
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    Took the win in the SS B category a week ago. First time I've won a bike race in close to 12 years, I forgot what it feels like to cross the line in first. Thankfully the race promoter set up a tricky little technical descent followed by a double hairpin chicane just before the finish and it allowed me a chance to use some technical skills to my favor.

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    We had a dry nice weather race yesterday, rough and bumpy dirt/rocks so I brought my 29er hardtail (so that I wouldn't feel so beatup today). I finished a couple of spots back from where I have been finishing, but similar gap from the winner (8th out of about 20 in cat 1/2 masters). The mtb was better in the twisties and sand, but not as fast in the straight smooth sections, - but I'm not as fast in the straight/smooth sections as most of these guys so it's partly that. I also over-did my riding late last week and probably wasn't quite as recovered as ideal, still a good finish so I can't complain.
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    9 races in so far. 3 podiums and 5 top 5's so far. Missed a weekend thanks to a crash on the road but got back at it yesterday. Finished up 2nd overall in an early season series in the SS category. NCCX (the bigger series) starts this weekend. New bike (pictured, since you asked for pics) hasn't been raced much so far since I've been mostly racing the SS so it'll get some time this weekend.

    Tried jumping in the big boy race once (Cat 1,2,3 race) and got SMOKED but had fun fighting for not-last (beat two guys). I also learned on a couple of occasions that I'm not quite fit enough to race twice in the same day. Tried it a couple times and both times the second race SUCKED. Finished off the early season series with a pretty fun race yesterday. The front 5 or 6 in the SS group did about 4.5 parade laps hanging together before it all blew up for a fast finish. I don't think the upcoming Cat 3 races will be as chill...
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    I've been amazed, 6mo post heart surgery, not to mention age 42 and not thin, that I've been itching to try racing bicycles. We have two local race series, one of which (Folsom Rodeocross) is throughout October in a venue three miles from my house. I was all ready to try it, but my wife works late, so I'm the evening daycare and cook. O well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Train Wreck View Post
    Took the win in the SS B category a week ago. First time I've won a bike race in close to 12 years, I forgot what it feels like to cross the line in first. Thankfully the race promoter set up a tricky little technical descent followed by a double hairpin chicane just before the finish and it allowed me a chance to use some technical skills to my favor.
    Woot!! Hell yeah, congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
    I've been amazed, 6mo post heart surgery, not to mention age 42 and not thin, that I've been itching to try racing bicycles. We have two local race series, one of which (Folsom Rodeocross) is throughout October in a venue three miles from my house. I was all ready to try it, but my wife works late, so I'm the evening daycare and cook. O well...
    As long as it's not a group that takes themselves too seriously I'd definitely go for it. There was a local series here which I took part in just to give CX racing a go and had a good laugh with it plus I liked just being able to turn up, race for an hour then go home again rather than the huge amount of preparation and time needed for an endurance race. Although there was the occasional rider taking it far too seriously it was mostly a light hearted atmosphere, that race series isn't run any more so I've been thinking of joining another local series but I don't want to take part in one where I feel like an idiot at the back.
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    CX season is full bore in Central Ohio. 3 races so far and NO podium spots for me... ha ( I did get on it in a MTB race Saturday ). Just one crash in a lake when I missed the turn on the beach...
    I can't run due to an old bad MX injury so courses with higher dismount counts hurt my finishes in CX.
    I'm still new to the CX scene but it's cool how may people come out.
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    Anybody do some races yet?-fe81d095-89f8-48da-8ad0-20c573358c39.jpg Tisí the season! I just did my second cx of the season. Finished 4th out of 82 at the start. I started 39th position. This was a cat 4/5 race, awaiting an upgrade to cat 4 so I can join the 3/4 race. Happy cross season!

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    Three races and trying to get to cat 2 but 6th place is the closest so far. I'm curious for those that race both CX and MTB, do you do better in one than the other? I can beat most of the same CX riders in MTB races consistently but not in CX. What makes you good in one CX? Guessing sprinting/bursty power. Body weight not as much of a factor with little climbing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    Three races and trying to get to cat 2 but 6th place is the closest so far. I'm curious for those that race both CX and MTB, do you do better in one than the other? I can beat most of the same CX riders in MTB races consistently but not in CX. What makes you good in one CX? Guessing sprinting/bursty power. Body weight not as much of a factor with little climbing?
    This has been something I've been trying to figure out for a long time, I also do better in mtb than cx (also I did much better in mtb than when I was also doing road racing years ago, cat1 mtb ad cat 4 road). Back then I would get dropped by cat3 road racer friends on road rides (and I'd get dropped on every sprint), but I'd drop the same guys on dirt, especially with steep climbs. Today (nearly 30 years later) there are guys I can't quite hang with on road, but I consistently beat them racing on dirt (cx or mtb).
    For me I think I have less sustainable (flat ground) power but good bike handling and pretty good climbing; I get dropped on the flat straights but do well in the corners (including wet/slick) conditions, and I also do a lot of short/steep hill repeats on the mtb which gives good repeated climbing performance (very little fade on the last lap), but that didn't really seem to give me the power (I'm calling it flat ground power) I need to hammer along the straights in cx.
    Over the summer I joined a weekly high-intensity road workout with some fast local road guys, doing 3 30min laps with about a 10-15 minute 'race' each lap, and it was really hard just trying to stay on the wheel of the group, I find it much easier to do that kind of big effort with a group like that than on my own. I think it helped me for this cx season, I'm consistently several spots better than the past 2 seasons and I haven't been close to being lapped by the open/elite guys (last few seasons at least one of the open/elite guys would lap me on the last lap), and I think everyone I'm racing with is pretty 'sharp' because everyone is excited about Nats being in our region this year.
    I'm guessing you train more by feel?, than with data like a power meter? - I just train by feel, with HR monitor sometimes. I would suggest seeing how you do on the road to get a feel for how your flat ground power is, time-trial type power. If that is a weakness, it would be good to improve that, and fixing the weakness is usually where the most gains are to be found, - I'm making this guess because it's sounds like your cx vs mtb experience is similar to mine. It's tough to get a longer solid interval in on dirt (unless you're climbing) because of the common rolling terrain on dirt, but road you can more easily find 10+ minute solid efforts.
    Over the summer I also added bumpy grass laps of my city park once a week or every other week; the idea was to get more comfortable putting down 'smooth' power on a rough surface, the interval is about 3 minutes, and I'd do 3 once a week or every other week. With this and the road workouts I'm more comfortable on the drop-bar bike than I have been before. - And hopefully all this will roll over making me faster in our early spring/winter mtb season.
    I hope some of this was maybe a little helpful!
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    I did time crunched cyclist CX training last year and it may have helped. This year I've kept up with intervals but not as much and not following any plan precisely. Roughly same results

    The power zone distribution in the races I do almost all look the same. About 25% in zone 6 and 7 and almost half the race is active recovery, but with little time between off and on. I don't have mtb zone data but I imagine it's primarily zone 5 with long sustained climbs, so that's quite different.

    I'm not sure power is any different for climbing vs flat except of course you'll go faster uphill if you weight less. Climbing is probably lower cadence for mtb but otherwise I can't see why the same power output on a climb couldn't be applied to the flats. More likely is the types that seem faster on the flats have higher power but are slower on the uphill due to body weight, just as the sprinters in the TDF win until they enter the mountains and get dropped. And not much climbing in CX races I've been in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    Three races and trying to get to cat 2 but 6th place is the closest so far. I'm curious for those that race both CX and MTB, do you do better in one than the other? I can beat most of the same CX riders in MTB races consistently but not in CX. What makes you good in one CX? Guessing sprinting/bursty power. Body weight not as much of a factor with little climbing?
    Short bursts of power... over and over and over and over and over and over... you get the idea.

    That and cornering. The fastest guys in our local series don't look that fast when you watch because they're so smooth. Picking good lines and carrying speed is the secret sauce between the fast guys and the rest of us.

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    Had an interesting SS race this weekend. There were only a few of us in the SS category and I went straight to the front from the whistle. Second place was on my wheel the entire race, I wasn't able to drop him so I settled into a comfortable pace and he stayed there. With two laps to go and second place still riding my wheel I started to plan my attack. On the finishing hill leading up to the bell lap we got passed and lapped by the open category winner, the second place SS rider just happened to take the lead from me at that point as well but we were both expecting to be starting our last lap. It was a bit frustrating to get pulled like that and to have the win slip away from me like that but it is what it is, I can't blame anyone and I'd like to note that the official at the finish line was loud and clear about the situation, but I was focusing more on the rider in my category and my plan for the last lap. Overall a pretty fun race, but a long DH section that played a huge disadvantage to us SS racers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoise View Post
    I'm not sure power is any different for climbing vs flat except of course you'll go faster uphill if you weight less. Climbing is probably lower cadence for mtb but otherwise I can't see why the same power output on a climb couldn't be applied to the flats. More likely is the types that seem faster on the flats have higher power but are slower on the uphill due to body weight, just as the sprinters in the TDF win until they enter the mountains and get dropped. And not much climbing in CX races I've been in.
    yes, you're probably right, I have had a better power to weight ratio than many of the guys I ride with, although some of the guys I used to ride with were not very thick, and I could drop them on climbs and had trouble keeping up on flats, so maybe it's a bit nuanced, but in general you're certainly correct.
    I say all this feeling like I don't necessarily belong in the 1/2 masters; cat 3/4 power but cat 1 bike handling. I'll credit that to hours and hours of motor bikes with poor suspension on trails as a kid, and nearly 20 years of porsche club autocross for some good 'looking ahead' habits and cornering basics.
    My mtb training trails are very on/off switch type trails; short steep climbs with 2-4 minute gaps in between. My road rides and park intervals over the summer were probably most useful in building a small wattage increase.
    I do still like the idea of becoming more comfortable on rough ground, and spending more time getting rattled around on rough ground on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimPacNW View Post
    cat 3/4 power but cat 1 bike handling.
    haha, story of my life...

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    1st race of the season here in So Cal
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    Quote Originally Posted by redBullFiXX View Post
    1st race of the season here in So Cal
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    I had a fun racing weekend! I did 2 races a 35+ /123 race and a SS race. I haven't felt sharp for any of the geared races I have done this year however the SS's race felt great. Looking at lap time break down I have been faster SS across 3 races. I still quite figure out why. No correlation to hilly or flat course. I beat some of the top geared racers when we both entered SS as a second race. At risk of burying the lead I won the SS class and it felt good.

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    ^ nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetglider08 View Post
    Tisí the season! I just did my second cx of the season. Finished 4th out of 82 at the start. I started 39th position. This was a cat 4/5 race, awaiting an upgrade to cat 4 so I can join the 3/4 race. Happy cross season!
    Good god I would love to be in a race with that many entries. First race of the year for me coming up on Saturday and as of now there are only two people entered in the cat 3/4. Usually around here (Southwest) race entries numbers go up until 10 minutes before but I haven't done a category with more than 14 people in the three years I have been racing cross.
    Good luck with your upgrade.

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    Been a rough go the past few weeks. A week ago I had a bad crash two laps into the start of a race. It was an off camber hairpin turn and my front tire just went away. Didn't do much after that, in fact I didn't ride all week and then decided I didn't want to skip the HalloweenCross event last Sunday so I showed up with completely fresh legs to do the SS race. The course layout was fun, very little elevation but a few running sections and I felt really good running with my bike. It was a new race venue and the track was extremely bumpy and quite difficult to maintain any momentum on the SS. Finished mid pack and had a good time but the rough track was very unkind to my back.

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