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    Zion 853 EBB with rigid fork

    For those of you who own the 853 EBB frame, I am curious to know how many run rigid, and what fork you use.

    I currently have a surly 1X1 fork, but the front end feels low, as the a-c is only 413mm. I need a disc/V compatible fork with a longer a-c and would love to see some pics and hear how the different forks handle.

    Here is mine, old pic but setup is basically the same. Okay, it won't let me post the pic now, but i'll try again later. Thanks

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    Pics 2nd try

    I'm dumb, pic was too big to upload, here's the pic

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    I also use a Surly 1x1 fork but not on a Zion.

    From your pic it looks like the Surly fork is a pretty good match.

    My 2 cents.

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    Perhaps you should look at the Instigator fork from surly. It has a 447 mm A-C, with disc tabs and canti mounts. I have one on my singlespeed, but I don't have a pic of it right now.

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    Your saddle looks to be really far forward. Have you tried a shorter stem?

    Just curious.

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    Mine is rigid when the floodgate is closed and the compression is locked on my Revelation...

    Does that count?

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    I built this for my buddy Jay


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    I built this for my buddy Jay

    Lucky buddy!!!

    Sweet build, Dirt Devil!!!

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    I've been running a 2005 Marathon Sl on my unit for a couple of years, more and more though I''ve riding with it locked out. Finally took it off today and installed an Instigator fork on it. Hasn't changed the geometry too much from where things were with the Marathon and the weight is exactly the same. Can't wait to ride it.

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    Looks like...

    most of you running suspension are using over 80mm travel forks, I am thinking the longer a-c will make the ride a bit better. I may give the instigator a try.

    I did switch out saddles, and I am going to pick up a shorter stem with a bit more rise to see if that helps to.

    Anyone else who runs their zion rigid wanna chime in? huh, huh?

    I know Trond had a rigid on his, looked like a Kelly, but that is a bit out of my price range right now.

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    My buddy just got a Zion rigid fork for his 853. He loves it!
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    Anyone...

    know where I can find a Salsa Cromoto fork? I have checked Jenson usa, webcyclery, bikeman, speedgoat, and all are out of stock!

    It has disc and v, a little longer a-c, and is straigth bladed which I like more than the curved blade. Did Salsa stop making them, or are they just waiting a new batch?

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    Same situation with my Fort.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 cog frog
    For those of you who own the 853 EBB frame, I am curious to know how many run rigid, and what fork you use.

    I currently have a surly 1X1 fork, but the front end feels low, as the a-c is only 413mm. I need a disc/V compatible fork with a longer a-c and would love to see some pics and hear how the different forks handle.

    Here is mine, old pic but setup is basically the same. Okay, it won't let me post the pic now, but i'll try again later. Thanks

    frog
    I tried a Surly 1X1 fork and since it is supposed to be suspension corrected for 80mm, I figured it would work pretty good on my bike. I had the same experience as you, it was too short and I do not mean just a little. I'm talking like non-suspension corrected. And by the way, just like on your bike, that Surly looked good on mine, so it kind of sucked that it turned out to be so lame. After studying this issue some, I really do not understand how an a-c length of 413mm can be considered suspension corrected. Maybe the Surly 1X1 frame makes it work? Anyway, I end up trying a Vicious Cycles 438mm fork and it turned out to be an exact match in terms of angles and handling to the 85mm suspension fork I used before trying rigid. Do a search on this issue and you will find that there is no exact answer to what length rigid fork is right.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 cog frog
    know where I can find a Salsa Cromoto fork? I have checked Jenson usa, webcyclery, bikeman, speedgoat, and all are out of stock!

    It has disc and v, a little longer a-c, and is straigth bladed which I like more than the curved blade. Did Salsa stop making them, or are they just waiting a new batch?

    thanks

    frog
    Salsa stuff is available from QBP. Any shop should be able to order it in for you.

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    single and rigid

    nashbar fork....very comfy w/ carbon bars and fat 2.4 moto

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    In my Zion 853 I liked a 420mm fork the most. I tried a 400mm which was way too low and a 440mm (which I think should be the "right" one, because of being 80mm suspension corrected) which shifted the weight too much backwards. Climbing became a nuisance.

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    wish i had friends like you.....hell, i wish i had friends period

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    Quote Originally Posted by YonderUnit
    Perhaps you should look at the Instigator fork from surly. It has a 447 mm A-C, with disc tabs and canti mounts. I have one on my singlespeed, but I don't have a pic of it right now.
    I agree, try a Surly Instigator. I just put one on my Bianchi SASS (along with a wider and taller riser bar) and it has transformed the bike. Steering is not as quick, and the front end is easier to get off the ground for getting over rocks and logs. The rear end digs for traction quite nicely. Your mileage may vary.
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    I've been looking so spice my Unit with a rigid fork, anyone knows of a great deal on one?

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    I'm running a geared Zion 853 with the Zion rigid fork to pull my son's trailer bike. (Sorry for the cruddy camera phone pic.) The Zion rigid fork is really long axle to crown - like 457mm!! When I first put it on, I thought maybe Jenson had sent me a 29'er fork, since there was like 3 inches of space between the top of the tire and crown of the fork. The long fork definitely makes it harder to climb, especially with the added weight of the trail a bike, and slows down the handling. If I'd had to do it over again, I would have gone with an Instigator or the OnOne rigid fork, both of which are a little shorter than the Zion fork, but not as short as the 1x1 fork.
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