We just recevied our 2014 KHS 4 Season 3000 Fat Bikes......

We just received our 2014 KHS 4 Season 3000 Fat Bikes......

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2014 KHS 4 Season Snow Fat Bike

How big a rear tire can you squeeze in there?

I just put on the Vee Rubber Snow shoes. They are 4.8". Plenty of room. Dropped a little weight with these too. Want to get under 30 lbs. How much weight can I save with DH tubes?

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Originally Posted by fatso

I just put on the Vee Rubber Snow shoes. They are 4.8". Plenty of room. Dropped a little weight with these too. Want to get under 30 lbs. How much weight can I save with DH tubes?

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Post up some pics!

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Snowshoe 4.7 fits good on the back and easily fits surly bud 4.8 upfront! Go ride....

How's the ride? Apart from tires anything you would think of changing?

It is a nice geometry for a fatty. Not too front or rear heavy, feels really balanced. Have done a lot of climbing in the muck and doesn't feel heavy or similar. Downhill thru obstacles is confidence inspiring too. Doesn't seem to slip and slide over snow either. I immediately changed to Oury grips and put on some VP pedals. Still kind of fine tuning here and there but I think this bike is great out of the box, though changing the tires from Vee Missions to your preference is a must.
I own a mach 6 and an Enduro 29er and the feel of this bike is nice even after changing rides during the day.

Glad to hear 4.7/8 tires fit. I'v been eyeying this bike but was concerned about the tire size.

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25 lbs is without the front wheel tire and brake

anyone have front brake rub? mine rubs the side even when free wheeling. If I can't figure it out I will drop it off at an LBS soon.

Be aware that the snowshoe 4.7 is much smaller than it claims. Closer to a true 4.0. This means that a Lou may not fit on back, be sure to check clearance first. The snowshoe is a nice tire just not as big as claimed.

boy for a 2014 @ $899 online , that is cheap for the 4 season 1000! anymore feedback? thinking on pulling the trigger, cant sit in the house all winter here in Minnesota as we are expecting another harsh winter!

I just bought a 2014 4 Season 3000 for $999 on clearance. Can't wait for snow to fly. Looked at the Framed Minnesota 2.0 (On Sale Framed Minnesota 2.0 Fat Bike 2014), but this bike was only $100 more and has better brakes and a 10 speed drive train.

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Originally Posted by StevePodraza

boy for a 2014 @ $899 online , that is cheap for the 4 season 1000! anymore feedback? thinking on pulling the trigger, cant sit in the house all winter here in Minnesota as we are expecting another harsh winter!

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Not finding many reviews or comments good or bad for the 2014 KHS 4 Season 3000
Anyone own one or test ride one that wants to weigh in?
From what I have read the VEE Mission tires are crap and should be changed.
Any comparisons to other bikes?

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Originally Posted by Windigo

Not finding many reviews or comments good or bad for the 2014 KHS 4 Season 3000
Anyone own one or test ride one that wants to weigh in?
From what I have read the VEE Mission tires are crap and should be changed.
Any comparisons to other bikes?

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I bought one last spring. I haven't ridden it very much yet, but what time I have spent on it, I have enjoyed quite immensely. I am not a super-strong rider, so I found it somewhat sluggish on uphills, but I honestly think that's just my lack of strength. The bike feels very stable going downhill and climbs well when I can keep the pedals going uphill. I hated the Vee Mission tires and switched them out with Origin8 Devist8rs which handle MUCH better! I am currently recovering from a ruptured Achilles tendon, but I cannot wait to be healed enough to get back out there and ride it in some more snow!

Thanks! The owner of a LBS is riding the carbon version and recommends it. Not convinced its top quality though. Anyone know much about it?

Can't compare to other bikes, but I've been out on 4 Season 3000 a couple times in the snow in the last 2 weeks. The Vee Mission tires are terrible in the snow! I am working on getting better snow tires, but will keep the Missions for dirt riding in the summer. Over-all the bike is really nice. It shifts well, brakes well and generally handles pretty well aside from being a little squirrely in soft snow. For the price it is pretty tough to beat.

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Originally Posted by Windigo

Not finding many reviews or comments good or bad for the 2014 KHS 4 Season 3000
Anyone own one or test ride one that wants to weigh in?
From what I have read the VEE Mission tires are crap and should be changed.
Any comparisons to other bikes?

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Thanks, I ended up buying the Carbon Beargrease instead. :thumbsup:

Bumping this as I am about to buy a used 2014 3000.

I have also been following the "Boris" thread as they are the same bike.

Any other opinions on this bike?

Thanks in advance.

hi. I still ride my 3000, and still love it. I know it's the same as Boris but I don't care either way. I just rode it in the snow the other day and still really like the geometry on the bike. I put on some nice pedals, a thudbuster seat post, Dillinger 4's just a few weeks ago for better traction when I run into some unexpected ice slop...and other than that mostly kept it stock except changing a bit of it out to have red highlights like the grips, etc. to give it some more personality. I have no complaints about the bike, especially the price. and I paid $1750 for it which is more than others did, but I also purchased the first one that came into town instead of waiting for a markdown. I just think it's so much fun and I have several other bikes. It's well balanced and it climbs like a billy goat. Sure I see others riding high end bikes but I'm really happy with this bike. I'd say go for it.

Derek
Sierra Madre and Mammoth Lakes, CA
2013 Pivot Mach 6
2013 Specialized Enduro 29
2013 KHS Fatty 3000
2009 Time Vibraser
Norco Sight 27.5

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Originally Posted by deerock

hi. I still ride my 3000, and still love it. I know it's the same as Boris but I don't care either way. I just rode it in the snow the other day and still really like the geometry on the bike. I put on some nice pedals, a thudbuster seat post, Dillinger 4's just a few weeks ago for better traction when I run into some unexpected ice slop...and other than that mostly kept it stock except changing a bit of it out to have red highlights like the grips, etc. to give it some more personality. I have no complaints about the bike, especially the price. and I paid $1750 for it which is more than others did, but I also purchased the first one that came into town instead of waiting for a markdown. I just think it's so much fun and I have several other bikes. It's well balanced and it climbs like a billy goat. Sure I see others riding high end bikes but I'm really happy with this bike. I'd say go for it.

Derek
Sierra Madre and Mammoth Lakes, CA
2013 Pivot Mach 6
2013 Specialized Enduro 29
2013 KHS Fatty 3000
2009 Time Vibraser
Norco Sight 27.5

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thanks for the info! Picking it up Friday night, first ride Saturday (I hope).

picked up my bike, came with upgraded tires (Larry and Endo) but didn't have much grip on my maiden snow ride last week.

How heavy are the stock tubes?

debating Nate's front and rear or Nate rear, Bud front.

Has anyone been successful going tubeless on the stock rims? if so, which method?

Thanks

Follow up to my own post.

I got a pair of On One Floaters and lighter 26 x 2.7 tubes.

I have been riding a fair bit of new snow and have been running very low pressures... ~ 5 PSI.

Loving the bike, considering getting the On One Carbon Fatty fork for it.

If this bike is the same as the Boris does that mean u can't fit larger tires on the back I know some of the guys on the Boris thread were saying they couldn't fit any bigger than a 4. Been trying to decide between a new Boris x9 or a used 2014 khs 3000 from my LBS what do u guys think

I haven't seen a consensus as to how big you can go in the back.

There are people running Bud's up front on the stock fork and wheel.

I have a fair bit of room left with Floaters front and rear.

Some people say with the sliding rear that the biggest tires fit....I have yet to try

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Originally Posted by Swerny

picked up my bike, came with upgraded tires (Larry and Endo) but didn't have much grip on my maiden snow ride last week.

How heavy are the stock tubes?

debating Nate's front and rear or Nate rear, Bud front.

Has anyone been successful going tubeless on the stock rims? if so, which method?

Thanks

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I converted my stock wheels to tubeless. Tried Gorilla Tape first, but that failed miserably. Then I did the split tube method with a single wrap of closed cell foam under it using Panaracer Fat-b-nimble tires. Sealed up beautifully. I did need to use a ratchet strap initially to get the tire to inflate. Been out many times and had zero issues with leaks.

Hi all, I'm new here to MTBR and I have a question. I'm in the process of paying off a 2014 KHS 3000 and I'm curious as to the axle sizes f/r. They look like normal quick releases for both or am I wrong? I was at my LBS today but forgot to take a look. The wheels I would eventually like to upgrade to are DT Swiss' new BR2250 Classics, but they require a 15mm Thru-axle up front and a 12mm thru-axle at the rear. Can anyone help me out? Sorry for my ignorant question but I can't seem to answer my own question by searching the interwebs.

The DT Swiss hub is 197mm, the KHS has a 170mm spacing, so you are out of luck on those wheels.

Thanks for that. Maybe in the future DT Swiss will make more hubs available. It is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by donn12

anyone have front brake rub? mine rubs the side even when free wheeling. If I can't figure it out I will drop it off at an LBS soon.

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im having that problem as well. although not brand new. it was a winter demo from a bike shop in Wyoming. it wasn't at first but a couple of down hill runs and jumps its rubbing.

breathing life back into an old thread... here is my '14 3000. Since this photo I have upgraded to SRAM GX/X1 1x11 with M8000 11-42 cassette, and Race Face Cinch crankset with Absolute Black oval 32t ring. I really dig the way this bike rides and handles. I will post an up to date one sometime...

I had an issue with the bottom bracket shell on the original frame- the threads were tapped not centered at the factory- and KHS handled the warranty very quickly and no hassle at all with a new frame in my hands within a matter of days!

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Old post, but hoping to find some info. Looking at a 2015 KHS 1000, comes with 80mm rims and 4inch tires. Just wondering if different rims would be required to fit bigger tires?

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Originally Posted by LanceMooney

Old post, but hoping to find some info. Looking at a 2015 KHS 1000, comes with 80mm rims and 4inch tires. Just wondering if different rims would be required to fit bigger tires?

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You should be OK up to 4.6" or so

The 2015 3000 series and the 2016 1000 and 3000 can fit real 4.8s and perhaps even the Snowshoe 2XL as well (there's definitely fork clearance and the frame has sliding dropouts which can be moved backwards to increase the tire clearance past the Vee XL Snowshoe's 4.8 size.