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    Headset for a 2011 Snyper

    I'm looking to get a 2011 Snyper but need some help with a headset - is it an integrated affair? I have a 2009 Revelation fork with a 1 1/8 steerer that is also fairly short, so I need something with a fairly short stack height too. Sorry, but I'm clueless about headsets, and thanks for any possible advice.

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    Unclebullbar, you'll love the Snyper. I rode an '09 and a '10 and found them to be beautifully handling bikes. On that frame, the top cup is 44mm ID and the bottom is a 1.5.

    You'd be looking at a Cane Creek ZS3 (zero stack, hidden cup) on the top and a traditional 1.5 bottom with a reducer on the bottom. On that bottom cup, you can go with a zero stack/flush mount or you can go with an external cup. I prefer the external cup because it'll help slacken the head angle just a tad. Depending on your steerer lenght, though, you may have to go with a flush mount.
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    Good job!

    Cheers ignazjr. Your advice was spot on, however Joel from Tomac just informed me that the 2011s come with an FSA Gravity DX Pro and I just need a Crown race reducer to make it fit. Takes it out of my hands thankfully. Thanks again mate.

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    Touch up paint, no luck with Tomac.. Any solutions?

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    That sucks, I got mine a while back.. in a contact lens case, both containers full of paint, pretty cool idea.
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    The Automatic 120 has caught my eye...

    But what has happened to the website? I can't access it. Isn't it tomac dot com?
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Just checked and it came up fine for me.

    http://www.tomac.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by drag_slick
    Just checked and it came up fine for me.

    http://www.tomac.com/
    Strange... checked again just now. It's all good now
    Previously, when I entered that url, all I got was a "domain available."

    Oh well. Thanks anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel
    Strange... checked again just now. It's all good now
    Previously, when I entered that url, all I got was a "domain available."

    Oh well. Thanks anyway.

    I got the same thing yesterday. must have been a glitch.

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    Hey Tomac crowd I need your help to win a contest...

    I need the Tomac Klan to like my photo on Ayup-lights Facebook page...

    Here is the link, but you need to join the page first..

    You can do that by putting www.ayup-lights.com into the Facebook search window.. and then like that page and then like my photo.. by following this link...
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=454416101540&set=o.289264821488

    My goals to get a 100 likes by Sunday.. I am almost there....

    Thanks if you can
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    I've got a 2011 Snyper...

    ...and it's so sexy.
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    Bragger.....


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    I'm pretty excited for 2011 myself. Got a Flint on the way to become my SS ride as well as a Diplomat. Hopefully only another month or so!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    I'm pretty excited for 2011 myself. Got a Flint on the way to become my SS ride as well as a Diplomat. Hopefully only another month or so!
    You'll have to let me know how that Diplomat 29er rides. I'm curious. Still never tried out the whole 29er thing.
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    Finished build:
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    What's everybody think of the new logo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drag_slick
    What's everybody think of the new logo?
    I thought I liked the old one a lot better, till I saw this one in person. I actually really like the new one now, even better than the old. This is really trivial, and it's not something I really care all that much about...but the new chainstay protector actually looks a lot cooler as well.
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    My Diplomat should be here soon. I'm getting the itch!

    Anyone know where I can get a crown race reducer?? I tried contacting FSA directly with no luck.

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    Just got a hanging scale and got a weight on the Snyper. I was pleasantly surprised to find it right at 31 lbs with the Reverb and no weight weenie parts.

    It's rides amazing too. Couldn't be happier.



    I still can't believe how Dave at Redstone Cyclery and Joel at Tomac hooked me up and helped get me on a new Snyper after I broke my Automatic. Best customer service ever. I really hope to start seeing more Tomacs on the trail in the future.
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    How's about that John Tomac / Cortez article in Mtn Bike mag's Nov '10 issue? Pretty sweet - always wondered WTH he was doing down in that area, now I see why.
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    What was the article about?

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    The area in general with his comments about why he bought all that land there, his fav spots in the neighborhood etc, nice photos, will def have to visit. Good story, worth picking up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat
    The area in general with his comments about why he bought all that land there, his fav spots in the neighborhood etc, nice photos, will def have to visit. Good story, worth picking up.
    I tried to do a web search for it. Someone please post if they find a link to it!

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    Joining the Tomac family 8D I got a killer deal from cambria on a 2008 XL frame in white. I'm only 18 so money doesn't come too easily but I will post pictures of my build when I finish! The frame is absolutely gorgeous tho...

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    Hell yea bro! Grats, same frame here, I love that pinstriping man. Just 3 days ago passed a guy on the trail said "Nice paint job"

    It's a great ride, real neutral not sluggish not spaztic, juuuust right.

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    sweeeeet. I can't wait until I get all my parts and i can put it together and hit the trail!

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    http://www.bikemag.com/industry-news...neral-manager/

    Man, I don't think Joel sleeps as it is, but I'm sure this will be good for x-fusion. I wonder if they'll be coming stock on Tomac bikes in the future?

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    Wish there was some update on availability for the Flint. Tomac says there is one with my name on it, but no time frame. Argh....

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    I've got a few Flints on order. Shouldn't be more than a couple more weeks.
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    Anyone have personal pics of a Vanish to share?
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    I am about to buy a tomac vanish 160 bike, but still confused on frame size selection. From the geometry of vanish, the top tube length is only 521mm on a small frame, 556mm on a medium frame. It's very short compared to other bikes, like Intense tracer2. I am 168cm with 77cm inseam. Tomac's sizing suggestion is medium, but my friend told me that I should select small since shorter top tube is better for descending. I've already ridden my friend's small size Vanish and loved it. Dose anyone know why Vanish's top tube is so short? Or give me some suggestions? Below is my fitting data. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Measurements
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    Inseam: 77
    Trunk: 61
    Forearm: 33.5
    Arm: 60
    Thigh: 58
    Lower Leg: 50
    Sternal Notch: 135.5
    Total Body Height: 168

    All Mountain Fit
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    Standover Height Range: 28.9 - 29.5 inches
    Virtual Top Tube: 22.0 - 22.3 inches
    Stem Length: 6.7 - 9.1 cm
    BB-Saddle Position: 61.9 - 67.9 cm
    Saddle-Handlebar: 48.7 - 50.5 cm

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    Standover Height Range: 28.9 - 29.5 inches
    Virtual Top Tube: 21.7 - 22.1 inches
    Stem Length: 3.5 - 6.6 cm
    BB-Saddle Position: N/A
    Saddle-Handlebar: N/A

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    I'd just email Tomac thru their website, they are always quick to help out. I know how you feel though, I'm after a Vanish as well and apparently (according to their chart) I should be on an XL... strange
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    Not sure if it helps. But when ordering my Diplomat I was unsure about sizing too. I typically ride a medium frame, but the top tube seemed short in comparison to my other bikes. Joel reassured me that the medium was the right size for me. I believe the bikes are sized so that if you typically ride a large, you would here too. The top tube lengths are probably determined to give specific geo and riding position on the bike.

    It seems right to me that the more aggressive the bike is supposed to be, the shorter the top tube would be as well.

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    Very good service. I emailed my problem to Tomac and got quick response from Joel. He suggested a medium frame for me and explained why Vanish's top tube is shorter as below.

    "The Vanish tend to run smaller because we wanted a shorter top tube length for upright positioning and better descending."

    Thanks for everyone's help

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    Just built 2011 Tomac Type X. Little over 18.5lbs in race trim. I could scale queen it to 17lbs but its my race bike for this season.

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    what's the price on the tomac silver fully assembled?

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    Sevencycle... Pic please

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    I will post soon.Frame looks the same as yours except for front derail cable routes with others under top tube. Getting used to lower BB height. Handles better but clips a pedal every now and then.Best balanced bike I have ever ridden (I.E. rider weight placement). Steers fantastic. I usually get a new bike or frame every year with 25 years of racing thats alot of bikes. I can say this is sure one of the best.Handling reminds me of my original 1980's Klein Attitude (green/pink/white) but carbon takes it to another level.

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    With three bikes sitting here.. Including the Flint.. I always pic my X...

    Can't wait to see pics.. Love bike porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikoli8
    With three bikes sitting here.. Including the Flint.. I always pic my X...

    Can't wait to see pics.. Love bike porn
    Nikoli, I will have a Flint soon. Could you post some pics of yours?? Thanks!

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    Vanish shock upgrade

    Anyone have any thoughts on a dhx air? Will it fit? What tune??
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    thought I'd pass this along, just read it:
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    Diplomat frames shipping next week!
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    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    I hope that's the case, banks. I just talked to JS and he mentioned that a container of Flints and Slivers are on the way and Diplomats wouldbe "later."
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    guess i should post up, too, since i'm in the club....


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    i would love to try a tomac but they are so far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    I hope that's the case, banks. I just talked to JS and he mentioned that a container of Flints and Slivers are on the way and Diplomats wouldbe "later."
    Hmmmm, jr. I posted that 10 minutes after I ordered 'em from JS. I should call you.
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    Well, I've taken my 2008 (2009?) Snyper out a few times now. I absolutely love it. It's my first FS and worth every penny. Upgrading to a specialized command post because the crotch has had a few... interesting... experiences, but other than that its absolutely fantastic. The thing I'm wondering for other older model owners, is on the rear triangle, I seem to be losing paint like none other on the white parts, has anybody else had this problem and anybody have any solutions? The front triangle and carbon part of the rear triangle are fine, not even a scratch yet

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    I bought a 2009 Snyper frame last summer and have had a love-hate relationship with it ever since. I never could set up the rear suspension to feel "right" for more than a couple rides. I put a Pike on it when i built it up, but have always felt it needed a little bit more travel. Replaced the Pike with a Revelation RLT Ti a couple weeks ago and the bike came alive. I always knew there was a great bike hidden in there some where, now I cant stop smiling every time I ride. Hope everyone else is enjoying there's as much as I suddenly am.

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    Anyone see the Supermatic with an X-Fusion rear shock at Sea Otter today? Was gonna ask JSmith about it, but meh. Maybe when I go back.
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    I wouldn't be suprised. In addition to his duties at Tomac, JS is now the head honcho at XFusion. I guess we'll see what that means for shock spec' on future Tomacs...
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    Yea I know, I've been trying to get a job out of him since both companies have relocated to within 20 minutes from my house, but no dice. He was sitting right there, so could have asked about the shock, but again, meh.

    These new rp23s with Kashima have me more intrigued I think.
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    Super pumped -we got in a Flint and a Sliver today. I got the Flint all built up this afternoon because that one was for me . I pretty much just put on a new post and crank and moved everything over from my existing singlespeed.

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    3 - pumped that this frame has enough room for my flask holder. The last one did not.
    4 - the headtube is short to keep the front end down. It's gusseted up well so that should help with front end stiffness.

    This really is a clean, good looking bike. I can't wait to get it out for a spin.
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    New question here. How light can Snypers go?

    Love my 2011 Snyper - climbs efficiently, descends awesomely, tracks beautifully, but I feel that at 14kg (almost 31lbs)for a large with a mix of XT/SLX, UST tires, nothing carbon, it's holding me back. How light have people been able to make these? By spending mega bucks and chucking on an XX grouppo and Revelation XX World Cup (carbon model) fork, how much weight do you think could be shaved off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclebullbar
    Love my 2011 Snyper - climbs efficiently, descends awesomely, tracks beautifully, but I feel that at 14kg (almost 31lbs)for a large with a mix of XT/SLX, UST tires, nothing carbon, it's holding me back. How light have people been able to make these? By spending mega bucks and chucking on an XX grouppo and Revelation XX World Cup (carbon model) fork, how much weight do you think could be shaved off?
    Not sure, but my 2011 Snyper built up at only 30.5 lbs with a Reverb adjustable seatpost that's around 1.2 lbs by itself. I also have a chainguide/bash/2x9 setup. I'm running a mostly SRAM X9 drivetrain with Shimano XT crankset and front derailleur. I've got SLX brakes with 180/160 rotors. I'm running the Sun Ringle Charger Pro wheelset tubeless with some beefy rubber that's not all that light. I've also got an 09 RockShox Revelation (PUSHed) fork. It's not a heavy fork by any means, but the newer ones are quite a bit lighter.

    I'm pretty impressed with the weight for the parts I'm running. It's very respectable, even if it's not industry leading.

    If you look at the Synper 1 specs they say it weighs in at 28lbs with mostly XT level components. I know it's a claimed weight, but based on my experience Joel Smith seems to be a very honest guy so I doubt it would be misleading. That's a nice, lightweight build. I'm sure you could get it lighter than that, but probably not too much lighter without spending a fortune or taking it outside of its intended usage. It's meant to an "all mountain" bike, no sense building it like a weight weenie ride. I could drop a bunch of weight on tires alone, but it wouldn't be nearly as fun. I'm actually thinking of going to a more aggressive tire in the back for technical climbing, which will add a bit more weight, but it's worth it.
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    Howdy all,

    I currently ride a 2010 Specialized Enduro SL Expert, and although I feel it's a great bike for the resorts and rougher trails, I find it a bit heavy and "too much bike" for many of the Front Range's XC trails.

    I'm considering adding an Automatic 120 to the fleet, anyone have any comparison between that and a Transition Bandit? Ideally, I'd like to be able to build a bike to the 26-27 lb range without using stupid-light parts and breaking the bank. Doable? Recommendations?

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    Diplomats have landed!
    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    Snyper light

    My 2009 large Snyper weighs in at 28.7 lbs. It is a stock build except for the following: chrisking headset; heavier saddle (more padding); Straightline platform pedals; and Bontrager raceXlite tubes. The weight with XT clipless pedals brings it down to 28.3. Place the original saddle back on and remove the dirt ........ 28 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradwin2
    My 2009 large Snyper weighs in at 28.7 lbs. It is a stock build except for the following: chrisking headset; heavier saddle (more padding); Straightline platform pedals; and Bontrager raceXlite tubes. The weight with XT clipless pedals brings it down to 28.3. Place the original saddle back on and remove the dirt ........ 28 lbs.
    I think the older Snypers were actually a little lighter when they still used the carbon seatstays and before they added the extra linkage to the suspension. I'm sure I could get mine around 29 without the adjustable seatpost and some different tires though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banks
    Diplomats have landed!



    Pulled parts off clients frames and re-installed 'em on the Diplomats!
    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
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    comparison

    is anyone able to comment on the ride differences between the Tomac Supermatic and the Yeti ASR 5C, I am looking at both these bikes. I am coming from an XC hartail and this will be my first full suspension bike. I have test ridden the Yeti but it was set up with 140mm fork and I didn't like the feel of the head angle 67deg. I think the Tomac with 69deg for large with 130mm fork may be a better feel. I did like the rear of the Yeti, seemed stiff and gave good trail feedback and pedalled up hill well.

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    wish i could test ride one of those bikes but there are no dealers in ny. they look nice and i would consider buying one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwheelin
    wish i could test ride one of those bikes but there are no dealers in ny. they look nice and i would consider buying one.
    Yeah, I know that can be tricky. All I can say is that they are quality, good riding bikes. They pedal well, but are still fairly plush, and the features are very intentional and thought out. Everyone that I've met who's on one likes the geo too.

    A good reference is a friend of mine. He's on his second Snyper. In the occasional XC race he does, he's actually faster on his Snyper than his lightweight short travel Kona he used to ride!

    Here my frame I'm building up.
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    My Snyper started creaking really bad a couple rides ago. Turns out it was coming from the main pivot. Took it apart last night and found that the main pivot bearings are shot already. One side turns a little the other side is completely locked up. I just got this frame last summer and am a little disappointed that the bearings went that quick. My LBS has some Eduro Max bearings in stock. I'm going to swap them out this weekend and hope that the eduro's are a higher quality and last longer.

    Another guy in my area has an Automatic and said his bearings went in less than 3 months. Anyone else have this problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcavy1
    Yeah, I know that can be tricky. All I can say is that they are quality, good riding bikes. They pedal well, but are still fairly plush, and the features are very intentional and thought out. Everyone that I've met who's on one likes the geo too.

    A good reference is a friend of mine. He's on his second Snyper. In the occasional XC race he does, he's actually faster on his Snyper than his lightweight short travel Kona he used to ride!

    Here my frame I'm building up.
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=705210
    real nice. i would be looking at the tomac sliver hardtail. have you ridden that one or know anyone who has and if they like it? i'm 5'11 so i'm thinking the large. also what is the price on the sliver? i didn't see any prices listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drag_slick
    thanks for the link. what size do you think for myself, large? i'm 5'11 and according to the tomac website, i fall under a large. these frames are handmade in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwheelin
    these frames are handmade in the US?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadbeat son
    No.
    i thought they were made in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwheelin
    i thought they were made in the US.
    Nope; Taiwan. Read here for the full story.

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    What's up Tomac Nation? How you liking your rides? I've been riding my Snyper all over the place and loving the hell out of it. My only complaint is the pivot bolts seem to need a lot of attention. They seem to loosen fairly easy after a few rides, but I can live with that. I even put some more blue loctite on them all but still have to check them before every ride to be safe. The only one that's a pain is the lower one where the drive side bolt is behind the crankset. I think I need to cut off the end of a large allen so there's only a short portion after the bend. I think that would facilitate tightening that bolt without having to remove the crank. Then I could just slip that key in there between the frame and the chainrings to hold the bolt in place and tighten the other side.

    Dave, that's a really clean and sweet looking Flint singlespeed you got there.
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    Hi guys,
    I'm new here and never had FS bike before. We've ridden borrowed Trek Fuel EX7's and 8's a few days ago and I fell in love with FS's.
    I'm willing to spend some more money on FS bike, but naturally, want to get the best for it, so I came across Tomac Vanish 160.
    I've read some other people's opinions and some say that this is "THE" bike for the money and that it performs better than/the same as some much more expensive "brand name" bikes for less money.
    I don't really know if that's true so I'd like to hear some more opinions from you...
    I'm in contact with Joel and he gave me a good price for "Vanish 2" which comes in two boxes (frame + equipment). Vanish 1 was a bit too expensive for me (almost double) but I don't see some crucial difference between the two anyway ?

    How do you think this bike rides uphill ? It comes with Lyrik fork (still don't know which version, with or without travel adjust, waiting for Joel to answer that), will the back end swing while you pedal, is it too heavy (here they say it is) ?
    Sorry for noob questions
    Any advice or opinion would be great.

    EDIT: Lyrik mounted on this bike doesn't have travel adjust and they've run out of "Vanish 2" setups :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivot
    Hi guys,
    I'm new here and never had FS bike before. We've ridden borrowed Trek Fuel EX7's and 8's a few days ago and I fell in love with FS's.
    I'm willing to spend some more money on FS bike, but naturally, want to get the best for it, so I came across Tomac Vanish 160.
    I've read some other people's opinions and some say that this is "THE" bike for the money and that it performs better than/the same as some much more expensive "brand name" bikes for less money.
    I don't really know if that's true so I'd like to hear some more opinions from you...
    I'm in contact with Joel and he gave me a good price for "Vanish 2" which comes in two boxes (frame + equipment). Vanish 1 was a bit too expensive for me (almost double) but I don't see some crucial difference between the two anyway ?

    How do you think this bike rides uphill ? It comes with Lyrik fork (still don't know which version, with or without travel adjust, waiting for Joel to answer that), will the back end swing while you pedal, is it too heavy (here they say it is) ?
    Sorry for noob questions
    Any advice or opinion would be great.

    EDIT: Lyrik mounted on this bike doesn't have travel adjust and they've run out of "Vanish 2" setups :/
    What are you going to use this bike for? If you're not doing crazy jumps/drops or really monster terrain, I think you might be going overkill. The Vanish is made to be burly and handle some crazy stuff so it's going to weigh more. It's also going to be a bit more difficult to climb with. That's just the nature of the beast. It's going to ride completely different from those Fuel Exes you rode that are designed to be more cross country bikes with racier geometry. Though you should also keep in mind that the guy in that review was building it up as a mini downhill bike so he had some components on there that are quite stout and heavy. His build was about 3 pounds heavier than what the stock build should come out to.

    You may be better served by a Tomac Snyper. It's a 140mm travel bike that is more than enough bike for all the crazy technical trails I've ridden in Colorado. I think the Vanish would be more bike than I'd want to push around for 90% of the riding I do. The Snyper really is a great all around bike though. It rides/handles great and I really enjoy it. A lot of people end up buying way more bike than they need. The Vanish is not a bad bike by any means, but make sure you'll make good use of the burly frame and extra travel, otherwise you're just pushing around that big bike for no reason. If you were happy riding the Fuel Exes, the Vanish is most likely more than you need. To quote the 3 little bears, for me the Automatic 120 was not enough bike, the Vanish 160 was too much bike, but the Snyper was juuuuuust right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1
    What are you going to use this bike for? If you're not doing crazy jumps/drops or really monster terrain, I think you might be going overkill. The Vanish is made to be burly and handle some crazy stuff so it's going to weigh more. It's also going to be a bit more difficult to climb with. That's just the nature of the beast. It's going to ride completely different from those Fuel Exes you rode that are designed to be more cross country bikes with racier geometry. Though you should also keep in mind that the guy in that review was building it up as a mini downhill bike so he had some components on there that are quite stout and heavy. His build was about 3 pounds heavier than what the stock build should come out to.

    You may be better served by a Tomac Snyper. It's a 140mm travel bike that is more than enough bike for all the crazy technical trails I've ridden in Colorado. I think the Vanish would be more bike than I'd want to push around for 90% of the riding I do. The Snyper really is a great all around bike though. It rides/handles great and I really enjoy it. A lot of people end up buying way more bike than they need. The Vanish is not a bad bike by any means, but make sure you'll make good use of the burly frame and extra travel, otherwise you're just pushing around that big bike for no reason. If you were happy riding the Fuel Exes, the Vanish is most likely more than you need. To quote the 3 little bears, for me the Automatic 120 was not enough bike, the Vanish 160 was too much bike, but the Snyper was juuuuuust right.
    I have nothing in particular that I want to do with this bike, I just don't want it to constrain me, needs to be able to handle any terrain, including big jumps and big boulders, needs to pedal uphill well and have good equipment overall.
    Anyway, I have given up on Tomac, unfortunately.
    It's just too complicated and a bit too expensive for me to get "Vanish 1" setup at the moment and the "Vanish 2" has Lyrik fork which doesn't have travel adjust, so I'd be traveling with 160mm all the time - not good for uphills.
    I've gotten a really good offer from local Cube dealer here for Fritzz SL, so it will probably be it.
    Thank you for your response!

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    Uh. 160mm is a completely fine and common and popular amount of travel for an all-mountain bike. Hell I run a 180 Float... to write off the whole bike because you DEMAND travel adjust sounds a little goofy to me. Half the ppl I speak to call it a gimmick anyway.
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    Maybe...but it is still nice to know that you can choose between 120 and 160mm of travel...for less money (Fox 36 Talas RC2 FIT on Cube vs. Lyrik on Tomac).

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    Never even heard of Cube. Where do you live?
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    It's German brand, really high quality, I'd say better than Trek.
    I'm in Croatia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivot
    I have nothing in particular that I want to do with this bike, I just don't want it to constrain me, needs to be able to handle any terrain, including big jumps and big boulders, needs to pedal uphill well and have good equipment overall.
    Anyway, I have given up on Tomac, unfortunately.
    It's just too complicated and a bit too expensive for me to get "Vanish 1" setup at the moment and the "Vanish 2" has Lyrik fork which doesn't have travel adjust, so I'd be traveling with 160mm all the time - not good for uphills.
    I've gotten a really good offer from local Cube dealer here for Fritzz SL, so it will probably be it.
    Thank you for your response!
    What does it mean "just too complicated" could it get any less complicated than working directly with the owner of the company?

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    It's more complicated than walking into the nearby bike store which has service/support on the spot, immediate warranty approval if needed, you can test drive some bikes before buying, etc.

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    Vanish ..... Snyper

    Hey Pivot, I can't talk about the Vanish because I have never ridden one - but I have been riding a Snyper for two years now. It is an impressive all round full susser. For me it is actually three bikes in one: (1) stock build = great aggressive singletrack bike (2) I replace the stock wheelset with a light XC wheelset, and I use it for XC/enduro racing (3) I replace the stock wheelset, stem, bar and pedals with a beefy wheelset, shorter stem, wider alloy bar and solid platforms - and I join the light (very light for me) freeride crowd. If you are a spandex clad racerX only - or a full time hucker, then the Snyper is not appropriate. But it is a great bike for everything in between.

    A note about Tomac's quality in case you have not actually seen or ridden one in the flesh: Don't let the price fool you - this is a high-end brand. I was fortunate to be able to demo a Tomac right after I demoed a Remedy, 5 Spot, Epiphany, and Blur LT. The Snyper was in the same league as all these bikes regarding quality. It looks and rides high-end all the way. Plus the single pivot concept with a made-to-match shock works very well. I do alot of out of the saddle climbing - and there is little movement and great traction going up .... and it soaks the big stuff on the way down. The 68.5 geometry is perfect for me too - can climb the steeps and flick it around on the way down.

    But I understand your concern about buying locally. Besides some Fox fork issues - I have had no issues with my bike though - no need to wish I had bought locally.

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    Hey Pivot, if you really like the Vanish 2 but want the adjustable travel, you can always add the cartridge to the Lyrik fork to make it a 2-step. I have an adjustable travel Lyrik on my Enduro and am happy with it. Maybe one of your local shops in Croatia has the internals in stock?

    Just a thought...

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    Hey,
    thanks for the idea but local shops here are really poor on parts of specialized equipment. It would be easier to sell Lyrik as new and buy Fox Talas or something similar (I didn't find Lyrik nor Talas in any of shops that have websites here, so you get the idea)...

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    If anyone has a "real world" pic of a 2011 Vanish with the new swingarm bracing & logo that'd be helpful
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    Any frame issues?

    Looking to get a new frame......since my Giant Anthem X just separted at the seat tube and top tube. (second owner = no warranty.....lessoned learned the hardway)

    Been all over the internet today looking at different brands, models, etc. Came across the Tomac and the reviews I've found seem to be pretty good. I'm looking specifically at the Automatic 120 and Snyper 140, anyone have frame issues. I talked to Joel today and he told me there is a limited lifetime warranty on the frame against manufacturing defects....so thats a plus.

    The other frames I'm looking at are Giant Trance X (Anthem X frames seem to be sold out), Specialized Stumpjumper FSR, Pivot Mach 4 & Santa Cruz Blur LT. The Tomac frames and the left-over 2010 Pivot frame seem to be the most financially feasible deals at the moment....that I've found.

    I only need the frame since I have all the other components. Honestly, how do these bikes ride. My Anthem X was my first full-suspension bike and I really liked it, smooth, no pedal bob, climbed really well. Can anyone compare the two?

    Hey Mounta Dora Cycles.........are you guys currently selling these, have any demo's I could take for a spin, I live in Ocala.

    Thanks!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclebullbar View Post
    Love my 2011 Snyper - climbs efficiently, descends awesomely, tracks beautifully, but I feel that at 14kg (almost 31lbs)for a large with a mix of XT/SLX, UST tires, nothing carbon, it's holding me back. How light have people been able to make these? By spending mega bucks and chucking on an XX grouppo and Revelation XX World Cup (carbon model) fork, how much weight do you think could be shaved off?
    first of all change your tyres to TL. UST tires weight 250 gr more in eachh tyre

    2*250=500gr
    plus check for a lighter cassete and pedals.

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    I have the same issue with the bolts
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    Anyone ever throw a coil shock on a Snyper?
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    Considering a custom SS build of a Tomac Flint. any opinions or experience with the EBB? The frame overall seems to have a pretty positive rep.
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    I was on a Flint for a while and had it set up SS. Great riding bike, very neutral handler. The EBB was a breeze. I found that it had about 3 teeth worth of adjustment - ie I could run a 19t and a 16t without changing the chain length. I wouldn't hesitate to grab one. The Flint makes a great singlespeed, especially for the money.
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    Just had to dust this thread off to say after 2 seasons on the Carbide, I love it!

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    Here's my final build on my Tomac:

    Frame: Black Supermatic 120
    Fork: Fox Talas Fit 120-150mm
    Shock: Fox RP23
    Wheelset: Crank Brothers Cobalt
    Headset: FSA DX Pro
    Handlebar: Easton Haven Carbon
    Stem:Thomson 80mm
    Brakes: Formula R1 160mm
    Grips: Crank Brothers Cobalt
    Rear Shifter: SRAM XO
    Chainring: Race Face 34T
    Rear Der:SRAM XO 9 speed
    Crank:XTR M970
    Cassette: XTR 12-34T
    Chain: KMC gold 9-Speed
    Seatpost: KS i950 with lever
    Saddle: WTB Rocket V
    Tires: 2.1 WTB Bronson TCS front and rear
    Pedals:Crank Brothers Candy 11
    Weight: 24 lbs.





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    that is an impressive build. Under 25 lbs WITH a dropper post!

    You can check out my race team on our Tomacs on a recent epic ride here and here.

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    Is 150mm the max travel allowable on the Supermatic? Interested to know the head angle and how it handles at that setting.
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
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    Is 150mm the max travel allowable on the Supermatic? Interested to know the head angle and how it handles at that setting.
    Thanks!!!!
    The recommended travel is 120-130mm. This happen to be my spare fork. I don't plan on riding it on 150mm setting though. I have my other bike if I wanna go bigger. I might get close to 23lbs. if I decide to make this a XC race bike. I love the way it's setup now. Super fun bike all the way through.

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    Automatic 120 Build

    Well, it has come together. Many thanks to Shannon at Brushy Mountain Bicycles in North Wilkesboro, NC. If you come to this part of the world to ride the Kerr Scott Trails (freshly designated IMBA Epic Trail System), stop by the shop.
    The ride and handling is fantastic, actually better than I thought full suspension could be after many years of riding hardtails only. I am looking forward to many miles on the new steed.

    Here is the build:

    Frame: Tomac Automatic 120 Large
    Fork: Fox Talas 32 100-140 travel
    Shock: Fox RP23
    Wheels: Magura Pro (DT Swiss built hubs/Mavic rims)
    Handlebar: Easton XC Carbon Riser
    Stem: I have a loaner Bontrager 100 to see how it feels. I will be going with Thomson 90.
    Brakes: Avid Elixir CR
    Shifters; SRAM X9
    Derailleurs: Front-SRAM X9 Rear-SRAM X0 9 speed
    Crank: Shimano XTR M961
    Cassette: SRAM 990 11-32t
    Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece
    Saddle: WTB Rocket V
    Pedals: Shimano XTR
    Tires: Front-Kenda Nevegal 2.1 Rear-Kenda Slant Six 2.1
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    Lookin good gapriderz, nice to see another Tomac around my local park
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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat View Post
    Lookin good gapriderz, nice to see another Tomac around my local park

    Thanks greasemeat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcraven View Post
    Well, it has come together. Many thanks to Shannon at Brushy Mountain Bicycles in North Wilkesboro, NC. If you come to this part of the world to ride the Kerr Scott Trails (freshly designated IMBA Epic Trail System), stop by the shop.
    The ride and handling is fantastic, actually better than I thought full suspension could be after many years of riding hardtails only. I am looking forward to many miles on the new steed.

    Here is the build:

    Frame: Tomac Automatic 120 Large
    Fork: Fox Talas 32 100-140 travel
    Shock: Fox RP23
    Wheels: Magura Pro (DT Swiss built hubs/Mavic rims)
    Handlebar: Easton XC Carbon Riser
    Stem: I have a loaner Bontrager 100 to see how it feels. I will be going with Thomson 90.
    Brakes: Avid Elixir CR
    Shifters; SRAM X9
    Derailleurs: Front-SRAM X9 Rear-SRAM X0 9 speed
    Crank: Shimano XTR M961
    Cassette: SRAM 990 11-32t
    Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece
    Saddle: WTB Rocket V
    Pedals: Shimano XTR
    Tires: Front-Kenda Nevegal 2.1 Rear-Kenda Slant Six 2.1

    Thats awesome. I lived in Galax, VA from 02-09.

    I rode the hell out of my KTM 200EXC at Brushy Mountain Motorsports Park every weekend

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    Hello
    Does anybody know if Supermatic frame can run a double sram crank? And what type BB does it take external or pressed in?

    Thanks in advance

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    hey guys anyone know what year is the carbide sl with the DT swiss shock please? the tomac website only has info on bikes going back to 2010 and all the carbides have an RP23. i presume it would be a 2009 frame? anyone confirm please! also is there a difference between the 2009 and 2011/2012 cabide sl frames, other than the shock please.

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pb11 View Post
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    Does anybody know if Supermatic frame can run a double sram crank? And what type BB does it take external or pressed in?

    Thanks in advance
    It uses external BB.

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    Snyper head angle

    On the Tomac web site it lists the HA at 68.5 in the Overview column and 67.5 in the Geometry column Tomac.com | Bikes | Snyper 140

    Which is correct?

    Can the frame accept a flush Zero Stack lower headset bearing or do you have to use the external cup assy?
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    From exchanging a few emails with Joel from Tomac the head angle is indeed 67.5 degrees with a 2.35" tire and 140mm fork. Tapered fork not gonna work with a Zero Stack HS.

    Also very interesting to me (and maybe someone can confirm) was he said production Snyper frames have an ISCG mount even though the picture on their web site doesn't show that. I asked 2 times this was the Snyper and he said yes. So I assume the 2011 (not sure about the 2010) frames had this and there are no changes to the 2012 except the shock is a Kashima coat RP23 now. Anyone???

    2013 will see the 12mm thru axle. I would have liked to see that on the 2012 frame but a 10mm thru works ok and what I'm using now on my Prophet.
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    Sorry I can't answer your question, but I've had my Carbide XC since 2008, upgraded to the SL in 2010 and dealt with Joel on numerous occasions and I would trust what he says vs. what's on the website.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    From exchanging a few emails with Joel from Tomac the head angle is indeed 67.5 degrees with a 2.35" tire and 140mm fork. Tapered fork not gonna work with a Zero Stack HS.

    Also very interesting to me (and maybe someone can confirm) was he said production Snyper frames have an ISCG mount even though the picture on their web site doesn't show that. I asked 2 times this was the Snyper and he said yes. So I assume the 2011 (not sure about the 2010) frames had this and there are no changes to the 2012 except the shock is a Kashima coat RP23 now. Anyone???

    2013 will see the 12mm thru axle. I would have liked to see that on the 2012 frame but a 10mm thru works ok and what I'm using now on my Prophet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drag_slick View Post
    d I would trust what he says vs. what's on the website.
    I dont believe it a website with incorrect information(Which one is the sarcastic smiley)

    Tomac seems like a good personal company. Something the big players have long forgotten. I got a close-out supermatic. I,m waiting till spring to build it as not good time year to ride shiney carbon. Too much gnarl to kill it. Alu bike is getting the abuse. Lots of time to save for parts too.

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    Snyper frame configuration/confusion

    Is the frame pictured below a 2011 frame? 2 (left and right) support struts on the front of the swingarm triangle. This Snyper was built up in July of 2011 from the little info that was listed with the pic. Literally every picture I find of recent Snyper frames on the web has the single support strut only on the left side. Including the Tomac site which also doesn't show an ISCG mount which Joel from Tomac says the current Snyper frames come with. Also the little right side support brace at the back of the triangle is gone





    Here is what almost every pic shows on the web shows including the Tomac site. I know this is a 2010 bike frame.
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    Got my answer

    Quiet around here in this forum Guess not to many new Snyper owners

    Joel from Tomac who's been great answering my questions got back to me with the answer. The 2011 and 2012 frames use the 2 strut configuration. The pic on their web site (even for the 2012 lineup) is a frame from 2010 with the single left strut and no ISCG mount

    Really, how hard is it to insert a new current frame picture and proper description if you want to sell bikes? A complete built up pic of the bike in both colors would be welcome also vs. just a pic of the frame. Just saying but I'm still moving forward with the Snyper posibility and finally gonna check one out later this week or next. The price quoted to me for the 2012 frame with RP23 Kashima shock by the only local Tomac dealer is almost to good not to give it a try

    Oh, lower cup Zero Stack or Angle Set Zero Stack can be used with a straight 1.125" steerer tube fork if you want to go that route to lower the stack height and slightly steepen the HA. Tapered fork requires an external cup lower wether angle set or regular head set..
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    It does seem that the tomac website could use some love. It's really important for potential customers to have an easy time finding accurate information, especially since there are few tomac dealers in the states.

    That said, I just got hooked up with a sliver hardtail for my race bike the next few seasons and it's showing every sign of being an awesome frame. Pretty light, some vertical compliance, and the damn thing came with an fsa headset and thomson collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    Hey Banks, that's the photo that won the contest right?

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    Smile

    it is the fork in the photo that makes it a great shot. Just installed a micro ti on my Sultan 29er a month ago. Great fork, performs like a dirt bike fork, not a mtb fork.

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    thanks!
    All my other sussy forks are mavericks and the coolest thing about the Marz is that a lot of the internal maverick tuning can be done externally on the Marz, but it is not as stiff as the DUC.
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    Hi.
    I've been riding a Cannondale Prophet for the last three years and recently began to feel, that the time for a change has come. I'm kind of a sucker for the less popular brands, so Tomac ended up on my short list of manufacturers I should consider. The decision was made, when I found out, that Tomac's Polish distributor had a large 2011 Snyper frame for almost 600 bucks less than the usual retail price.
    The offer was to good to pass up and a few phone calls later I became a proud owner of a white Snyper.
    I'm currently missing a few parts, as the front derailleur and seatpost from the Prophet would not fit, but here's the bike a few hours after receiving the frame.

    (I've borrowed the seatpost and saddle, from my GF's Stumpjumper for the photo)
    The build is going to end up a little on the burly side, with a few really heavy parts like a set of M810 Saint brakes and the coil-sprung fork.

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    2011 Toman X-Type Custom build 18.75 lbs..... Go Eli ! I remember Eli on a custom Ti 20" wheel pit racer,now ripping up Supercross #1 spot.

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    ! I remember Eli on a custom Ti 20" wheel pit racer,.
    does anyone know where that bike is now?

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    Sevencycles. Any pictures of that Type X

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    Hello
    This is my Tomac Snyper 140. I love this bike. Climbs and Downhills are very easy with the Tomac Snyper







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    Nice bike, kikeorsu. Is that a suntour fork? How does the thing perform? I've heard, that the new sr forks are actually quite nice.

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    Hello Bendus

    You have a nice bike too, about your question, yes i have a 2010 Suntour Epicon fork 140mm this fork works very good, is light (1.8Kg) and cheap I had this fork installed on my old Santacruz Heckler so that I move it to Tomac Snyper.

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    07/13/2012 Top of Silver Creek off Colorado Trail.
    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
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    Quote Originally Posted by banks View Post
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    Great pic!!!

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    Just heard Tomac is out of business!!
    Anyone know if thats true???

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    Hope not!

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    Wouldn't surprise me.

    They have not introduced any new bikes in quite some time, current models are mostly on backorder and their European distributors have been selling off all stock (mostly up to 2011 models, I doubt a lot of 2012ers even made it to Europe) at rock bottom prices for a while...

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    We got a list of 2012 special offers in the shop today (UK) selling them all off which raised my suspicions. i read a review of the snyper on here and the last reviewer said they are out of business. Sad day! My last 4 bikes have all been Tomacs

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    Tomac has stopped everything a few months back and "looking for an investor/licensee to start the brand back up again."

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    What does that mean for warranty and accessories like derailleur hangers and the like?

    "So I'm packing my bag for the misty mountain.."

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    Damn guess X-Fusion took too much attention. Maybe Honda will buy it & start up that DH bike idea again.
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    Newest hanger Derailleur Hanger #334

    Warranty is no longer as the business no more.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
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    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    It's really too bad. Bikes were great, service was outstanding (Joel), a sad day for me. I Guess there is more to it then a great product and great service.

    "So I'm packing my bag for the misty mountain.."

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    A bummer indeed

    I was hoping for a 650B Snyper in the pipeline.
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    This makes me very sad.

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    Agreed on the snyper. My plan was to buy another one once this one died. Now I guess I'll buy a Mach 5.7 at twice the price.... :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixnr View Post
    Agreed on the snyper. My plan was to buy another one once this one died. Now I guess I'll buy a Mach 5.7 at twice the price.... :-(

    "So I'm packing my bag for the misty mountain.."
    If you're willing to risk it somebody must have some Snyper frames that will need to be blown out. Dam, the things were cheap to begin with last I inquired.

    Hmmm, Mach 5.7...nice. I'll take one in 650B please
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    Came here to post an updated photo of my Snyper and read the news about Tomac bikes going out of business. Way to ruin my day.
    Guess I'll have to be a veeeery careful rider from now on, not to break anything, as I can't afford a new frame

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    Raise a glass

    I've got no regrets. I bought my Snyper in 09 and it's rocked my world for 4 riding years. What a great all rounder it is. It feels like it will last another four years without problems.
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    Nice bike!
    So stocking up on parts so my snyper will last. Anyone have a source for the bearing service kit? I know the bearings are standard looking for the rest of the parts in that kit...

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    Kind of a bummer. Especially the lack of communication and official announcement. It would be nice if they could give us a run down on our options. Kind of puts me off X-Fusion products as well.

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    If anyone is interested, I have some remaining Tomacs that I need to clear out. PM me for more info.

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    I just discovered Tomac bikes and they are going out of business. Totally bummed. Still considering picking up a used 2010 Spyder 140 built up with all XT components in really nice shape. Love the bike, but what would be a fair price to pay given they are out of business?

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    What wheels? Fork?

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    Here are the specs for the bike in question. I'm thinking if I could get it for $600, I'd be in great shape.

    Fork: Fox Float 140 RL w/ Air Pressure, Rebound, Lockout with a 15mm thru-axle Fox Skewer
    Shock: Fox Float RP23 w/air pressure, 3-position Pro Pedal, Pro Pedal adjust, rebound (Sweet Shock!)
    Wheelset: Shimano XT (As far as I can tell, they are XT centerlock hubs, XT rims )
    Shifters: Shimano XT, 9-Speed, Trigger
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT
    Brakes: Shimano XT Hydraulic
    Crank: Shimano XT
    Handlebars: Easton Monkey Light XC, Carbon Fiber, 31.8mm
    Stem: RaceFace Atlas AM, 31.8mm
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite w/ Salsa Quick Release Clamp
    Saddle: Specialized
    Tires: Specialized Control front and Hardrock rear

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    Also, it's the model with the carbon seat stay. Not sure if that's a plus or a minus? Also, might that make it a 2009?

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    Sad to see it come to a close
    Tomac Mountain Bikes stops production
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobsnc View Post
    Also, it's the model with the carbon seat stay. Not sure if that's a plus or a minus? Also, might that make it a 2009?
    08 or 09 yes. About. 5 lb lighter than the 10 model with the seat tube connected to the bottom bracket. I ride an 09 and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banks View Post
    Sad to see it come to a close
    Tomac Mountain Bikes stops production
    :-(
    Great brand very sad to see them go. Made an outstanding product at a great price with great customer service. Thanks for the link helps explain why this happened. I'm off to see if I can source a snyper frame as a backup before they are gone forever.

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    Loved my Carbide SL. It's going to be a heck of a challenge to re-launch them again, I had 3 Tomac's, one from the ABG days and 2 from Joel. The customer service that I got from Joel was top notch and set the bar really high. I've grown a little wary though of trusting how long the brand will be around each time the company closes up shop.

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    This sucks. Great company and great person (Joel). Damn internet.
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    Yeah kinda sucks. I still haven't ridden a bike as ridiculously plush as my Diplomat with a Marzocchi 44 Ti fork on front. I mean, it's not the most efficient thing ever, and it rides too far into the travel, and it's a bit flexy but man it is plush.

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    Hi, my Tomac Snyper has developed a creaking noise from the frame. There is a tech update addressing this. http://www.tomac.com/pdf/TechUpdate1...nPivotBolt.pdf Has anyone done the fix for this. I am not new to biking, but am new to working on the suspension. Would like any advise on how to remove the pivot bolt for servicing, such as what has to be removed to get the pivot bolt off such as tires, chain, cranks, etc, and exactly what bolts to remove. Thanks for any help as this is the only thread I could find on the Snyper.

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    Crank has to come off and a 5mm Allen bolt on the non drive side needs to be loosened. That bolt clamps the main pivot in place.

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    Thanks for the info, i'm glad this thread is still alive.

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    Crank has to come off and a 5mm Allen bolt on the non drive side needs to be loosened. That bolt clamps the main pivot in place.

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    Hi, need some help with this pivot, on which side there is a nut? On the side with 5mm clamping bolt? I have dissassembled all bolts and forgot original layout.
    Also, when assembled there is small play up/down noticed in swingarm when i lift the bike. There is no play in side direction. Anybody can help with pivots, bolt assembly diagram?

    Many thanks!!!

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    I don't have a diagram but on the main pivot the 10 mm side is on the drive side. Not sure what you are calling a nut but after you see how the main pivot goes apply the same logic to the rest. As far as play goes is this with the bike fully assembled? If so this is usually your shock bushings. Replace as required. Check all frame bearings too. They should be smooth not crunchy with no play in them. Careful tightening some of those pivot bolts if you don't have a torque wrench. They are aluminum and snap easy.

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    Thanks. Bike is complete and shock is serviced but i will check it also. I am refering to main bolt on link:


    http://www.tomac.com/pdf/TechUpdate1...nPivotBolt.pdf

    There is a bolt and a nut.

    I installed nut on non drive side where 5mm bolt is.

    Also, there are two o ring seals and two washers - and i am not sure on which link they were mounted. I installed them on main pivot bolt.

    Secondly, there is small side play on back links, those which connect to seat stays. Even if i tighten it with force, there is still some play. I tried to turn those short connection links in both directions but it is the same play... Should there be a washer?







    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixnr View Post
    I don't have a diagram but on the main pivot the 10 mm side is on the drive side. Not sure what you are calling a nut but after you see how the main pivot goes apply the same logic to the rest. As far as play goes is this with the bike fully assembled? If so this is usually your shock bushings. Replace as required. Check all frame bearings too. They should be smooth not crunchy with no play in them. Careful tightening some of those pivot bolts if you don't have a torque wrench. They are aluminum and snap easy.

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    O rings are for the main pivot. Washers? Any pics of these? My snyper is an 09 and the only washers I have is for the shock pivots.

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    After all there are bushings on fox shoks causing vertical play ... Will change and see.

    Thanks.

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    Another problem: I need new Derailleur hanger just broke one ;(
    Any hint where to get it in Europe? Is this stuff compatible or standard?

    Thanks for any hint!

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    joel at tomacparts dot com

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
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    hmm... it will be interesting to see what they do. I will most likely watch from the sidelines now though. I've been through the ABG Tomac and the JS Tomac, and I'm kind of done with the constant turnover.

    I dumped my carbide sl when news first hit about shutting down again, and I think it's going to be hard for them to gain consumer confidence again. The only Tomac I still have is my ABG Taos which is a 2004 and has proven quite indestructible.

    I do wish them luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banks View Post
    I do not know where this is going to go
    Rotherham?

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    I could be interested again if they bring back the same quality/value the js tomacs had. An updated snyper would be awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixnr View Post
    I could be interested again if they bring back the same quality/value the js tomacs had. An updated snyper would be awesome!
    On the On-One blog, it says that the new Tomac bikes are being built in the Serotta factory.

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    My Tomac Snyper. Beautiful bike I think.
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    der hanger

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    Another problem: I need new Derailleur hanger just broke one ;(
    Any hint where to get it in Europe? Is this stuff compatible or standard?

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    I found this frame new in the box on EBay. I built it up with parts I had for a Schwinn Homegrown project. It may be time to sell the Schwinn. Love this bike!Tomac Bikes!-img_0710_zpse94b5fc8.jpg

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    Tomac Bikes!

    ^nice!


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    That bike is a climber!

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    It is extremely nimble. I have to get a bit more weight over the front tire. As it is, my set-up is too far back over the rear wheel. Nothing a little adjustment and a longer stem will not take care of.

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    Thanks. This was an opportunity that I could not pass up. I've always wanted one. I used to have a 1999 204 Magnum DH.

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    Grrr. I have a Tomac Diplomat and can't seem to find a web archive page or anything with the geometry numbers on it so I can compare to other bikes. Anybody have anything?

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    Tomac Bikes!

    Did you try web.archive.org?


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    Quote Originally Posted by warimono View Post
    Grrr. I have a Tomac Diplomat and can't seem to find a web archive page or anything with the geometry numbers on it so I can compare to other bikes. Anybody have anything?

    Thanks
    Email [email protected] He's got some of the original information.
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    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    Newest Version Derailleur Hangers! Fit the Diplomat!
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    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    I need shock mounting bolts for an '09 Snyper. Anyone know the specs and if these are bolts that I can acquire at a hardware store or somewhere similar? Appreciate it! Trying to bring it back from the dead!

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    Tomac Bikes!

    Try emailing joel at tomac parts dot com . He might still have some lying around. If that email address still works. Doubt you will find something to fit at a hardware store. If that doesn't work I have a bag of spares I can measure and you can give the specs to a machine shop.


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    Hi, also trying to revive my Snyper that I love. Does anyone know if the bearing kit for the newer IAS snyper's will fit on the older 08/09 pre IAS snyper. Found a bearing kit for the newer snypers, vender doesn't know if it will work. Has anyone replaced the bearings on there Snyper, wonder if the bearings are common sizes that be found from a bearing company. Any thoughts. Thanks, Jesse.

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    Tomac.com and anything related is no longer available. web.archive.org that was suggested does have a few pages of the old web site, don't know if that will help.

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    Bearings are standard sizes and available from a bearing shop. Check the bearing seals for the numbers. If you dont have the original bearings let me know and I'll check mine. Pay the extra for skf vs a cheaper bearing. The cheaper ones didn't last a season on mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixnr View Post
    Bearings are standard sizes and available from a bearing shop. Check the bearing seals for the numbers. If you dont have the original bearings let me know and I'll check mine. Pay the extra for skf vs a cheaper bearing. The cheaper ones didn't last a season on mine.


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    Thanks, Thats just what I needed to know. I will get the better ones.
    Thanks again, Jesse.

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    Tomac Bikes!

    Glad to help. Pictures of all these revived snypers please. Glad to hear a great bike is still going!


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    Re: Tomac Bikes!

    My new gem. Tomac Automatic 120 xl frame. Brand new basically. One ride on it prior. 700 dollars. Rides better than my Old rocky Mountain.





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    Re: Tomac Bikes!

    Tomac Bikes!-uploadfromtaptalk1414001386072.jpg Here is my 2009 Tomac Snyper, still going strong, would like to hear from others, never see one for sale, so I assume they are still being ridden.

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    I've got a Revelation 140mm on it, was wanting to put a Marzocchi RC3 TI either a 44 or 55, have any of you used this fork. They are hard to find used. Thanks. Jesse

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    Tomac Bikes!

    Sad to say I retired my snyper last month. Needed the parts for a new frame or I would have kept her going. Loved the way she rode especially picking through technical stuff. Would have loved to see Tomac stay in business for a version 3.


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    What new frame did you get.Not retiring the Snyper but am looking for a second bike. Will you,I be selling the frame.

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    Tomac Bikes!

    Yeti sb66. I will be selling the Snyper frame. Will come with headset and a bunch of frame spares. It's pretty mint as I had gorilla taped any potential wear/transport spots.


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    Let me know where you post it. Some of my group members might be interested. The yeti is on my short list along with the Canfield Balance and Evil Uprising.

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    Would like to hear a review on how the yeti compares to the Snyper. Thanks.

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    .I've been following the Yeti sb66 thread, thought your name sounded familiar, will follow on there. Thanks.

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    Will do. Should have it posted in the next couple of days. It's still early days on the 66 but does better on the downhills than the snyper did. Not that the snyper wasn't great there just the geo is more suited to that. 66 is a longer bike so not as nimble as the snyper on the slow technical stuff. 66 suspension is a lot more active.


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    Thanks for the report

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    Hello,
    first greetings from Europe,Croatia.I'm getting new bike(previously used) next week Tomac Vanish 160. I'll get him without seat post.can you tell me diameter of seat tube 2010. bike it is. Thanks,much appriciated.

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