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    Show us your Zion!

    Welcome to the new Zion Bicycles forum. Big thanks to our friends at MTBR for setting it up.

    We're working on the new Zion Bicycles website, and we want your photos! Got pics of your Zion on the trail, on your car, or somewhere interesting around the world? How about some custom modifications that make your Zion unique?

    Send them to webmaster AT zionbicycles DOT com (or add them as a response in this thread) and we'll use them in our "customer bikes gallery" section on the new website.

    Thanks!

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    Here are some of mine

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/cmadrigal/117214867/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="https://farm1.static.flickr.com/43/117214867_3b638db12d_o.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Singlespeeding in the snow" /></a>


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    here's mine, currently about 24 lbs w/o pedals.....(pedals in the other bike at the time)
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    Here's mine! It's changed a little bit since I've taken these pictures though, I've replaced the saddle and rear drive train. She weights in at 25.75 pounds. Here's the specs:

    Frame: ZION 660 19 Inch
    Fork: Rockshox Recon 327 100mm
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 5
    Cranks: Deore w/salsa chain rings XT BB
    Shifters: SRAM X.7 8 speed trigger
    R/Derailleur: 2007 SRAM X.9 mid cage
    Cassette: XTR 950 Ti 12-32 8 Speed
    F/Derailleur: XT
    Stem: Raceface Evolve XC 100mm
    Handlebar: Raceface Dues XC low riser
    Seatpost: Racefave Evolove XC
    Saddle: WTB Laser SLT
    Tires: Panaracer Fire XC Pro
    Rims/wheels: Mavic Crossride w/Salsa skewers
    Headset: Cane Creek S3











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    Here are some pics of my zion 737


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    Quote Originally Posted by shishku
    Love the cattle dog! last thing I'd expect to see amongst all those maple leaves...

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    My Zion is much photograph'd, but rarely by me. I can't take credit for any of these.

    A couple of stuck-in-the-snow shots:




    Okay, I can take credit for this particular photo, but why would I want to?


    And some action shots...

    A nice big corner:


    Foolin' around in a snow cover'd ditch:


    Risking my life on a pond (not really, it was freakin' cold):


    And a few with a freakin' laser beam attach'd to my forehead:






    And finally, attach'd is a shot of my Zion just hangin' out with some friends:
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    Quote Originally Posted by no one in particular
    My Zion is much photograph'd, but rarely by me. I can't take credit for any of these.

    A couple of stuck-in-the-snow shots:




    Okay, I can take credit for this particular photo, but why would I want to?


    And some action shots...

    A nice big corner:


    Foolin' around in a snow cover'd ditch:


    Risking my life on a pond (not really, it was freakin' cold):


    And a few with a freakin' laser beam attach'd to my forehead:






    And finally, attach'd is a shot of my Zion just hangin' out with some friends:
    nice frickin' laser beammmmmmm!

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    Picked up my finished wheel build this weekend from my LBS and couldn't really wait to put the bike together.

    Got it finished last night and took it for its maiden voyage this morning.

    Unfortunately I am still awaiting delivery of the 2.35 Rampages I've ordered so I've gone with some 700 x 38 cheapies to get up and running.

    Its really nice to be back on a single speed, although riding rigid will take some getting used to :P.

    The bike rides great and I really pleased with it.




    PS Long steerer is a temporary measure until I decide on a final length :P
    PPS The Hope rear hub is rather noisy

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    Nice, looks good in green! I don't know if I could get used to riding a rigid fork. My back would be killing me. I'm hoping to build a zion ss this summer, I haven't decided on 26 or 29 yet. What gears are you running? --Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    Nice, looks good in green! I don't know if I could get used to riding a rigid fork. My back would be killing me. I'm hoping to build a zion ss this summer, I haven't decided on 26 or 29 yet. What gears are you running? --Mark
    I wasn't sure how the ratio would transfer between 26" and 29" so I'm currently running 32:20, with the 20t coming from a split shimano cassette. Its very similar to 32:18 I used to run on my 26" SS which has got me spun out on the flat but with the hills here in Wales means I have to get off and push very little.

    I guess I'll settle on getting an 18t for use on the rear once I get a little fitter; which I reckon will feel more like 32:16 on the 26" bike.

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    Thanks for the info. It's going to be hard for me to decide between 26" or 29" wheels. I'm so torn!

    Oh, just in case. Here's how you figure out gear ratio's.

    Chainring * Tire size / Rear gear = gear ratio

    Like so:
    29er 32*29/20=46.4
    26er 32*26/18=46.2

    Thanks again. --Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    Oh, just in case. Here's how you figure out gear ratio's.

    Chainring * Tire size / Rear gear = gear ratio

    Like so:
    29er 32*29/20=46.4
    26er 32*26/18=46.2

    Thanks again. --Mark
    Thanks for that.
    Since I've already got the 20t cog, I think I'll go get myself a 19t now which will be the equivalent of a 32:17 (26") and in between where I am and where I 'd like to be - but have to be realistic!

    I think I'd have to ride far more regularly to get fully comfortable with the equivalent of 32:16 (26").

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    One of only 2 Zion 737's that I know of in Australia and the only geared one.





    * 20" Zion 737 frame
    * Thomson stem
    * Thomson seatpost
    * SLR Ti railed saddle
    * XT cranks (cheap but solid at $210)
    * SRAM PG990 cassette
    * Formula Oro K18 brakes
    * SRAM X9 shifters and rear derailleur
    * Shitmano XT front derailleur (SRAM dont make a front clamp size that works with the smaller tube diameter of steel frames
    * No name bolt on seatpost clamp (non QR)
    * Cane Creek S3 + 5 headset (has an extended lower crown to asist with downtube clearance)
    * Reba
    * Hope hubs laced to Sun DS2 rims with DT Competition spokes
    * Easton EC70 flat bar with foam grips

    26.6lbs

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    I've been debating on a Zion and a Bandersnatch.. Just dont know which! Choices.. Choices....

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    32:18 gear ratio, 180 mm stylo SS cranks, ust rear rim/tire, hope mini brakes, thomson stem/post, easton CF bar.

    bike rides v well. some torsional flex but doesn't affect handling. surprisingly compliant on rough sections. frame weight was just over 5.2 lbs in the 19 inch size. i plan to drill some holes in the EBB chunk of aluminum.

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    sweet shots man...my buddy has a new pentax dslr that will give you a simliar shot to that.... it shoots your long exposure, and then flash at the end of the exposure, so you get the long beam of light, with you at the end, rather than flashing first, and then a long exposure....pretty sweet setup...just thought it'd throw that in there....but i love the bike!

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    853 EBB
    reba race
    specialized crap crank
    xt dr's
    lx hydro dualies
    mavic rims
    forte saddle




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    nice bike alurock......

    I will post pics from my friend Jochen's bike (he bought my 853ebb frame)

    here's how it's going so far..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisillo
    nice bike alurock......

    I will post pics from my friend Jochen's bike (he bought my 853ebb frame)

    here's how it's going so far..

    You're bailing on your Zion? What happened? --Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    You're bailing on your Zion? What happened? --Mark

    Well a friend needed a new bike..and I have always had a thing for On One Inbred frames... additionally, the Zion was a little tall with the 130mm Revelation, The Inbred with the Rev at 130mm handles like the Zion at 100mm... the Zion is a great frame... my only small gripe is rear tire clearance.... The biggest I could run was a 2.25 Nobby Nic (about 2.1 "actual size"),, on the Inbred I run 2.35 Kendas with room to spare.

    I won't "pollute" the Zion thread with the pics from the Inbred, but if you want you can check it out here http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=301181

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    ah I see. Yeah, the chain stays on the zion are rather narrow. I run Panaracer Fire XC Pros. They are pretty thin for a 2.1, so I don't really have any clearance issues. But I do still have that little issue with the motion control not clearing my downtube. We'll see if Crane Creek will make do on there promise of just that +5 bottom cup. --Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    ah I see. Yeah, the chain stays on the zion are rather narrow. I run Panaracer Fire XC Pros. They are pretty thin for a 2.1, so I don't really have any clearance issues. But I do still have that little issue with the motion control not clearing my downtube. We'll see if Crane Creek will make do on there promise of just that +5 bottom cup. --Mark
    yeah...weird that I didn't have any issues with mine... maybe a small difference between the models or something...

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    That's what I was thinking, either a difference in the frame or the fork crown. Remember I don't have a recon MC unit, it's a MC for a rev/reba That might have something to do with it too. (I'm loving that upgrade by-the-way). --Mark

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    lj's zion

    Well, after studying information about mountain bike technology until I thought it might come out of my ears, and testing the patience of more than one salesman at Jenson, here's mine:

    Frame: 660, 19"
    Fork: Marzocchi MX Pro, 80mm, no ETA
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7
    Cranks: Shimano XT M760
    Shifters: Shimano XT SL-M751 rapid fire
    R/Derailleur: Shimano XT M761 traditional, long cage.
    Cassette: Shimano XT M760 11-34
    F/Derailleur: Shimano XT M760
    Stem: Thomson Elite 100mm 5 degree rise
    Handlebar: Easton EA30, flat bar
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite 410mm
    Saddle: WTB Speed V comp.
    Tires: Panaracer Fire XC Pro
    Rims/wheels: Mavic Crossride Disc only
    Headset: Cane Creek S3

    I don't have an accurate way of measuring the weight, but with and without the bike in my hands the difference using a bathroom scale is 25lb, including Shimano M520 SPD pedals.

    Since the shock has no lock-out controls or anything on the crown, I escaped the dreaded clearance problem between the crown and the downtube. This was pure luck, as I didn't realize how tight it was going to be.

    Tragedy struck after about the first 10 days of riding. A stick shattered the cage on the derailleur, twisted the Shimano HG-73 chain so badly I thought replacement the only option, and just about twisted the derailleur hanger off of the frame. One new XT derailleur and a SRAM PC-971 chain later, followed by some careful straightening of the hanger with a crescent wrench, I seem to have recovered. I'm not sure if it's the SRAM chain, or the bending of the hanger, but the drivetrain is much quieter and better behaved. The Shimano chain always seemed to be on the verge of jumping gears.

    After a little mud bath...
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    Here's a pic of my Zion 660EBB, leaning up against a friend.



    I'm very happy with the way it handles. I think I got lucky, because the XL frame is too big (I'm 6'2"), but w/ a combo of a short Thomson stem flipped over and a 4" Marz Bomber fork, it handles just right.

    And here she is again, letting me have my way.
    This is on the Hole In The Ground trail, near Truckee, CA.

    A sweet frame.

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    Hogan Lake blog. A section of Hogan Lake trails here.

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    Feelin the luv

    Here's mine. I have the same problem with the BB bolts being cracked. I'm not too worried about it as Jenson is close and I know they'll take care of it.
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    about to go through its 3rd incarnation

    Picked up a 660 geared frame about a year ago. Went semi-blingy on the initial build, which included a Reba SL fork, King rear hub, X-9 rear derailleur and shifter, Avid BB7 brakes and SD Ti levers, Thomson post, Stylo crankset and a 990 cassette. Not a bad frame, absent some initial seatpost slippage issues.

    I also test-fit several rear tires on the 717 rims to see what kind of clearance the frame had. See the original tire clearance test post here: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...highlight=Zion

    I eventually robbed the frame of the decent bling for another frame and rebuilt the 660 with decidedly non-bling parts like a $50 Formula disc wheelset from Jenson, BB5 brakes, the Zion rigid fork, X-7 derailleur and shifters, a no-name post and other lower end, heavy parts. It was the dedicated trailer-bike puller for my son's trailer bike (see bad camera phone photo) until very recently, when I again stripped most of the parts to build another bike.

    Soon, it will enter its 3rd incarnation, which will be a mix between the intial bling build and the not-so-bling 2nd build. Parts will include a Bontrager Select disc wheelset, the BB5 brakes, the Reba fork, the no-name post, a Rocky Mountain take-off saddle, the old ISIS Stylo crankset, the X-7 drivetrain, and probably the good old 2.1 Nevegals. Will post a photo when done!
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    My new Zion 737. Bottom side is 2008 XT with LX hubs and XTR rotors, topside is 07 XT hydro and carbon. Weighs in at 29.5 pounds. Very fun to ride. WTB Pro Gel and Reba smooth out the ride but still climbs like a goat.
    Spent to much money on it but will probably switch out the wheelset for black xt hubs and black mavic or bontranger rims. All I can say is big and smooth.

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    My girlfriend's new 660, that I built for her for her birthday

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    Shimano LX/XT drivetrain & brakes, handbuilt XT/Mavic 719/DT Comp wheels
    Matching Fi'zi:k Vitesse seat and CK headset, RockShox Recon 351 fork and finally super-euro PRO PLT bar/stem/seatpost combo
    "When I quit my 'real' job and went to work at Mountain Bike, my old boss told me I'd just ruined my career. I can't think of a better way to destroy oneself than on a mountain bike." -Dan Koeppel

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    lucky GF, Nurgen Pete!

    looks great!

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    Sold it a while ago:

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    A little dirty. (It's a map holder btw.)

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    heres my 660


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    Here is my Zion






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    hey HTR4EVR, how did you get your pics to show up without needing viewers to log in? my friends can't be jealous if they can't see my bike.

    and thats a dope bike you have. im currently just using the rigid fork that came free with the frame, but im gonna start looking at forks. got recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryzhong
    hey HTR4EVR, how did you get your pics to show up without needing viewers to log in? my friends can't be jealous if they can't see my bike.
    you can just post/link the image directly (flickr generates the code for you if you go to the "all sizes" page of the pic you want to show)

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    A couple of Zion action shots. These show that a rigid bicycle doesn't mind leaving the ground, if just a little bit.



    In the second one you can already see that I'm grimacing. It's goin' to hurt when I land.

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    LOL, I'm guessing that wasn't a very soft landing.

    I like a plush front end I don't know if I could ever ride a full rigid. But then again I bet that thing climbs like a goat!

    --Mark


    Quote Originally Posted by no one in particular
    A couple of Zion action shots. These show that a rigid bicycle doesn't mind leaving the ground, if just a little bit.



    In the second one you can already see that I'm grimacing. It's goin' to hurt when I land.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harryzhong
    hey HTR4EVR, how did you get your pics to show up without needing viewers to log in? my friends can't be jealous if they can't see my bike.

    and thats a dope bike you have. im currently just using the rigid fork that came free with the frame, but im gonna start looking at forks. got recommendations?
    It is a very fun bike to ride in deed, my best bike so far ... There is a lot of awesome bikes in this thread.

    On the Fork issue I'm using RockShox Revelation Coil with U turn 80-130 mm, upgraded spring also because I'm big. The RS RVL is a great fork, I'll recommend it 100%, it will fit the frame well if you have a FSA Pig DH Pro with it, if not the crown will hit the frame. 100 to 115 mm fork will do fine ... If you have the money a Fox TALAS is the ideal choice...
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    HTR4EVR what size is that? i've been riding that fork on an aluminum frame, want to get another steel hardtail but can't decide between a 19" or 21".
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintlick
    HTR4EVR what size is that? i've been riding that fork on an aluminum frame, want to get another steel hardtail but can't decide between a 19" or 21".

    19''

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    660EBB custom

    It's rigid, pretty heavy and single-speed.

    I am used to ride dual suspension MTBs with 4" to 6" travel; but I love to ride this bike - just for a change....

    Cheers,

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    Zion 660 with rigid fork

    This is my Zion 660, not a bad little ride.

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    cool!

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    Work in Progress

    Just finished this last night. Had too many mechanical problems on the 26" I was trying to limp along, so had to piece this together a little quicker than I wanted.
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    Put some real tires on that thing......I hate you..... by the way, that's number 5 for the day. Got a hall pass for a big ride on Sunday. See ya at 9:30?

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    My Zion is alive and well. The mavic crosstrail are great, no flex so far and I'm a heavy guy, more heavy after my trip to Canada. Well, every Zion here looks great,I hope we can make a Ride your Zion day and have only Zions that day...

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    Here's my 737 29er.

    I finished it off this morning.

    I had originally planned on thieving most of the parts from my 26er HT, then I saw that the XT rear der on it was pretty tweaked and the cassette would need to be replaced in the near future. So, my EP abilities kicked in and I ended up with a new drivetrain.

    In the pics you'll see a huge stack of spacers on the steerer. That was all intentional. I didnt want to cut the steerer anymore than it already was in case I want to upgrade the frame later. After the test ride, I did put all but 2 of them on top of the stem though. The bars were just too high with them below.

    I got the frame at Jenson's parking lot sale back in September for $60. I went basic on the wheels too. Just in case I decide I don't like 29ing, I'm not out a ton of dough. If I really like 29ing, I can always get better wheels and upgrade the frame. Everything else is pretty decent stuff.

    Final build specs:

    Frame: Zion 737 29er frame, medium
    Fork: Rock Shox Reba SL dual air
    Shifters: SRAM X9
    Rear Der: SRAM X9
    Front Der: Shimano XT
    Cranks: Race Face Evolve XC w/ int BB
    Cassette: SRAM 980
    Chain: SRAM 991
    Brakes: Shimano Deore hydros
    Bars: Easton EA30
    Stem: Salsa
    Seatpost: Thomson
    Wheels: WTB Dual Duty w/ Deore hubs
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal 2.2


    Fresh off the workstand:






    I hope you have a big trunk... 'cuz I'm puttin' my bike in it.

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    Wow! 60 bucks that's a bargain!

    Every time I see a pic of the 737 I can't get over how close the rear tire comes to the seat tube. Nice looking build though. Good luck! --Mark

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    $60.00,

    Nice build...

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    my zion: 19"
    XT/LX, Race Face drive train
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    Hutchinson "Bulldog" 2.1 Tubeless
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    Sette 100mm Stem
    Bontrager Crow Bar (off my last steel bike, a 1998 Bontrager Privateer)
    80mm Rock Shox Duke Race w/ lockout
    27 lbs. on the bathroom scale. a fun ride, haven't tride out the wheels / tires yet. just got those on last night.
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    that color scheme is nice!!

    i love it when colors match on bike parts.

    i'm currently looking for parts to upgrade my black 660, going for white parts with the black frame.

    those bulldogs are slick! are they actually a metallic silver? or just a gray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryzhong
    that color scheme is nice!!

    i love it when colors match on bike parts.

    i'm currently looking for parts to upgrade my black 660, going for white parts with the black frame.

    those bulldogs are slick! are they actually a metallic silver? or just a gray?
    they're gray, on sale at greenfish. never ordered from them, fast and free shipping...

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    Great bike, (I hope your zete sticker doesn't peal away when wet like mine did... ) i love the color combination...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSDuke
    I got the frame at Jenson's parking lot sale back in September for $60.
    SIXTY DOLLARS?!?!

    I'd love to get a 660 or 737 EBB for $60!

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    I love my zion 660. I think i am going to go out and build up a 737 now. I just baught a new gary fisher Pro Caliber that i though was my dream bike. I am finding myself riding the 660 more.
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    Fresh from the workstand!

    I've documented this one thoroughly in another post, but why not add to the collection here as well

    The Build is as follows:

    Zion 660 19"
    Manitou R7 Super Click IT, 80 mm
    FSA Orbit MX headset
    Thomson X4 stem, 90 mm, 10 degree rise
    Thomson Elite seat post, 410 mm
    Selle Italia SLR saddle
    Answer pro taper Carbon riser, 1"
    ODI Ruffian MX
    Hayes Stroker, 160 mm
    X9 triggers
    X7 rear mech
    Hone front mech
    LX crank and BB
    Xpedo MF-2B pedals, mag/ss
    Sram 950 cassette (with a 970 lock ring for you detectives)
    Sram chain
    Mavic CrossRide wheelset
    Salsa skewers
    Maxxis Larsen TT, 1.9 folding
    Continental Superlight inner tubes

    It weighs 25 lbs, and is pretty fast, but I have yet to take it for a proper mountain ride before I can evaluate it.
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    Nice and clean, good job....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    Nice and clean, good job....
    Thanks! I've ridden it a few times now, and I have to say it's impressed me. the handling is great, and it feels very light and fast. By the way, saw a pic of your bike (this one: http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?...5&postcount=13) and was wondering what tyres are those? Nice bike by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRricki
    Thanks! I've ridden it a few times now, and I have to say it's impressed me. the handling is great, and it feels very light and fast. By the way, saw a pic of your bike (this one: http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?...5&postcount=13) and was wondering what tyres are those? Nice bike by the way!
    I'm glad you like my Zion. The tires I'm using are WTB Mutano Raptors 2.4 front and 2.24 rear. The tire clearance on the rear is limited but you shouldn't have a problem with the mutanos if you have a 24mm wide rim. I got a set of cross ride rims too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRricki
    I've documented this one thoroughly in another post, but why not add to the collection here as well
    Yikes. Those hydraulic lines are just begging to catch on a branch...

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    Hehe, yes they are a bit on the long-and-catchy side! Still have to find the motivation to cut and bleed..... But to be honest they are not in the way, me myself is still sticking out more than the lines so... anyways, you win the price for "Most observant quality assurance personell of the the special task force for overly long hydraulic lines" Cheers!

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    "Most observant quality assurance personnel" aka anal retentive, I know.

    That's part of the reason I switched over from Magura hydraulics to Avid mechanicals...too much work to get it right, especially if you like to swap stuff around.

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    True, true, a hassle it is. But I'm more than happy to put in some extra grimetime to keep the hydraulics. You see, I live at the west coast of Norway, and we've got rain 220+ days of the year, so hydraulics are a blessing. I'm still contemplating converting to a Rohloff hub, but man those are expensive!

    Happy trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    I'm glad you like my Zion. The tires I'm using are WTB Mutano Raptors 2.4 front and 2.24 rear. The tire clearance on the rear is limited but you shouldn't have a problem with the mutanos if you have a 24mm wide rim. I got a set of cross ride rims too.
    Thanks HTR4EVR, appreciate it. I think I will find a hard time getting WTB tires over here in Norway, but I'll check them out if i get a chance. The Crossrides are 19 mm internal width, so they are quite narrow. I'm looking to get a 2.1-2.2 tire. Most likely I'm going to go for a Schwalbe Nobby Nic or Racing Ralph, they are readily available over here. Can't get Kenda either by the looks of it....

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRricki
    Thanks HTR4EVR, appreciate it. I think I will find a hard time getting WTB tires over here in Norway, but I'll check them out if i get a chance. The Crossrides are 19 mm internal width, so they are quite narrow. I'm looking to get a 2.1-2.2 tire. Most likely I'm going to go for a Schwalbe Nobby Nic or Racing Ralph, they are readily available over here. Can't get Kenda either by the looks of it....

    Cheers!
    Jenson has the mutanos, did you get your frame from jenson?

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    If this cap is touching the frame you may try a FSA Pig DH pro or the cane creeck s3 +5 as your head set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    Jenson has the mutanos, did you get your frame from jenson?
    Yup, got the frame, seatpost, stem and handlebar from Jenson. Shipping was not cheap, but the frame was . We have a flat tax on all merchandise of 25% here in Norway (apart from food, it's 11 or 12%), so getting a few parts shipped in is too expensive. Normally I buy enough stuff to get free shipping (not so for the frame and bits ), and also try to time the purchase when our currency is strong. It's a lot of work I tell ya! But well worth the effort most of the time.

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    I'll love to see pics from the trails over there in Norway ...

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    speaking of norway, does anyone know the best way to cut down carbon fiber bars? seems like someone told me a while ago not to use a pipe cutter and use a hacksaw instead. does it matter? they're going on my zion 660 if that matters. thanks.

    i would love to see some trail pics of norway myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paintlick
    speaking of norway, does anyone know the best way to cut down carbon fiber bars? seems like someone told me a while ago not to use a pipe cutter and use a hacksaw instead. does it matter? they're going on my zion 660 if that matters. thanks.

    i would love to see some trail pics of norway myself.

    yeah pipe cutter is no go on carbon...you have to use a fine toth saw and tape the bar to minimize burrs...there was a pdf on the easton site for cutting carbon...

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    Zion 737 with 100mm RST M29 fork. So far so sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tym2ride
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    Sweet. very sweet... Congratulations...

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    Thanks, so far the geometry is great. I have a Kona Explosif 29 as well but I believe I favor the Zion.
    One mod I did already was replace the ebb bolts. The original one's looked close to bottoming out when tightened down. I see a ebb replacement in the futrue to lose some weight. This is a nice mod as well. The stem cap is one of two in the world. My bro made the first one for hisself, then made me one. May the drooling begin.....now!!!


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    That looks really sweet. How are you liking the fork? Some think it's too flexy. I'm shooting to build up a white 737 budget gearie. I've had great luck with the Kona P2 rigid fork (very close AC as the Zion) and may go that direction. Thanks for any info....

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    So far, so good on the fork. I like alittle flex in the fork. I have a alum. switchblade on my other 29er and I can tell the difference. It hits dips a bit harder than the Zion fork.

    Overall, I have no complaints about any of it.

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    So far, so good on the fork. I like alittle flex in the fork. I have a alum. switchblade on my other 29er and I can tell the difference. It hits dips a bit harder than the Zion fork. I'm thinking about changing out the switchblade for a P2.

    Overall, I have no complaints about any of it.

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    Here's my zion 660 version 2, seems winter slumps make me wanna spend money, sigh.


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    Nice colour scheming w/ the white highlights!

    Here is my Zion 737 EBB I built up as a winter beater bike. When The spring comes I plan on putting some drop bars on and giving off-road fixed a go!








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    Thanks!

    WOW, going down that rock pile with a rigid fixy is hardcore. I had the zion rigid fork on for a while since it came free with the frame. It climbed like a goat, but my hands and arms did not like the hits.

    Nice, your bike is also highlighted in white in that last pic. Hehe. I had a snow ride the other day too, I am wondering, how do you clean off your bike after such a ride? I'm paranoid about the steel frame rusting and cracking on me.

    PS. All you EBBers are getting me intrigued about the SS experience. argh.

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    that's a nice looking build.

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    It is setup as a singlespeed now. But we recently got dumped on with tons of snow, and it is taking a really long time for the singletrack to get packed down. I plan on getting one of those tomi cogs and giving fixed a good to at least make the double track and the wide areas that get more traffic a little more interesting.

    The fork I have on there is the Bontrager switchblade for a 26" wheel (440mm a-c). I thought it would really suck but it actually isn't too bad at all. A little switchy in some areas but makes for a stable ride when doing tight switchbacks and such.

    Thx for the comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryzhong
    Thanks!
    I'm paranoid about the steel frame rusting and cracking on me.

    PS. All you EBBers are getting me intrigued about the SS experience. argh.
    Me too, so I'm using my Jamis Durango SX on the wet ... But my Zion rocks

    NICE ZION BY THE WAY ...

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    hey thanks HTR.

    The only remaining issue is the seat.

    The shadow is light as hell but not very comfy, granted i've only put 2 rides on it so far.

    But if it doesn't pan out, may need to get the pure v stealth, which is wider and more comfy i hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryzhong
    hey thanks HTR.

    The only remaining issue is the seat.

    The shadow is light as hell but not very comfy, granted i've only put 2 rides on it so far.

    But if it doesn't pan out, may need to get the pure v stealth, which is wider and more comfy i hear.
    I'm using Velo's Pronto S3 and sofar so good, but I'm a WTB fan...

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    I gotta ask, does it come in white?

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    Yo got to check velos's web site because I haven't see it white...

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    Mine!

    Here's mine, finished it up a day or two ago and gave it a quick shakedown ride today:
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    Like the stealthed out look. I use to have those exact same wheels on my Zion. Those are some beefy wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryzhong
    Like the stealthed out look. I use to have those exact same wheels on my Zion. Those are some beefy wheels.
    Thankye! Kinda-stealthy is what I was going for, tho if I didn't already have those almost new Contis, I'd be tempted to throw some bright red Panaracers on it.

    And yes, those wheels do seem to be pretty tough for how narrow they are.

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    my ebb

    lovin it
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    Very nice Badger. Looks nice w/ the Pace fork.

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    light?

    whoa that looks like a light bike, whats it weigh in at?

    what kind of rotors are those? crazy lookin.

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    nspace really loved your pictures - especially the one on the wooden floor (my current desktop). Lost all the nice sharpness resizing mine unfortunately.

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    not sure of the weight - the rotors are hope floating rotors V nice..

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    This is a bad photo, but I figure it's well overdue, so may as well get it uploaded.

    Zion frame (2005 I think).
    Fox F100X forks (2007 I think)
    Chris King hubs, with DT Swiss spokes on Mavic 717 rims
    XT cranks.
    8 speed SRAM chain
    Easton monkey lite carbon bars
    ODI Yeti grips
    Saint brakes with LX levers and goodridge hoses
    Thomson post and stem
    Selle Italia SLR saddle
    IRC Mythos tires

    I think thats about it. I weighted it today, and I think it's 25.8 lbs.

    I bought this before the 29er version was released. If I was doing it again, I'd probably do a 29er version. I really like the handling of this bike, just fantastic. The saint brakes and terralogic forks are just amazing.

    Why don't they make a 'premium' version with 1) a lighter eccentric bb and 2) a full 853 frame that weighs a little less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerboy
    nspace really loved your pictures - especially the one on the wooden floor (my current desktop). Lost all the nice sharpness resizing mine unfortunately.
    Thx! Your's is much nicer though!!!

    I just got my setup fixed to make some of the winter riding around here a little more interesting:




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    looks great, nspace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillkeen
    This is a bad photo, but I figure it's well overdue, so may as well get it uploaded.

    Why don't they make a 'premium' version with 1) a lighter eccentric bb and 2) a full 853 frame that weighs a little less.
    Hey, they don't even make an 853 frame anymore...

    Are your bars comfortable when rotated that far forward?

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    Here I sit, waiting for my owner to gather parts. He says he is having trouble finding something to coat my innards. "Frame saver" I think he called it. I hope it doesn't taste bad; I keep telling him a beer will do just fine, but he won't share those.
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    HOT. i really wanted one of those gloss white ones in 17" but they didnt have it when i was in the market. oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobi-Wan Kenobi
    ...having trouble finding something to coat my innards. "Frame saver" I think he called it.
    Boiled linseed oil will do the same thing, you'll just have to get a syringe to apply it.

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    Just finished this today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound
    Boiled linseed oil will do the same thing, you'll just have to get a syringe to apply it.

    Boiled linseed oil will work? I wonder how long it will last. I picked up this coating that is supposed to....how did they put it.. spread? It kind of dries a bit to a grease like consistency.

    Noobie, I think you scored the last fork. The didn't have any more 29er forks left.

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    No, thats a 26er fork. It's supposed to work O.K. Somebody else used one and said it rode fine. We'll see.
    Originally Posted by Vtolds/Dremer03---- "assume any bikes left unlocked and unattended are free to take"

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    My other Zion

    My 737 on the slickrock
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeegeek2112
    Boiled linseed oil will work? I wonder how long it will last. I picked up this coating that is supposed to....how did they put it.. spread? It kind of dries a bit to a grease like consistency.
    Framesaver is supposed to simply be boiled linseed oil in an aerosol can.

    It dries and hardens and works just fine. Plus it's much cheaper in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerboy
    My 737 on the slickrock
    Totally jealous of such nice weather.

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    Hi Guys, inspecting my 660 frame today I find out that the rear tire is rubbing the frame. Are you having problems with this? I have a 2.24 mutano in the rear, I'll have to change to a 2.1 tire for sure. What tire size are you using in your Zions?

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    The 660 has a lot of clearance issues from what I have heard so you can't go very big on the rear. I remember reading some people were speculating that this is something they may change for the next gen of the 660.

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    My 2.1 Kenda Nevegal rubs from time to time. Pretty sad when a normal 2.1 rubs. This is my biggest complaint with the 660. The problem actually goes back a ways. Oh well let hope the next zion has fatter tire clearance. --Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    My 2.1 Kenda Nevegal rubs from time to time. Pretty sad when a normal 2.1 rubs. This is my biggest complaint with the 660. The problem actually goes back a ways. Oh well let hope the next zion has fatter tire clearance. --Mark
    Any rust problems?

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    Nah none at all and my frame is pretty beat up. --Mark

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    New wheels - Velocity Blunt rims and Hope hubs, new avid BB7 and new candies (I actually broke off one of the prongs on my eggbeaters I had before the candies after hitting on rocks during fixed gear rides on this thing)

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    Oh and a little Mojo to get me through

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    Nah none at all and my frame is pretty beat up. --Mark
    I'm going to try a thiner rim and see what happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtotheZ
    New wheels - Velocity Blunt rims and Hope hubs, new avid BB7 and new candies (I actually broke off one of the prongs on my eggbeaters I had before the candies after hitting on rocks during fixed gear rides on this thing)

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    Oh and a little Mojo to get me through

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    Cool ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    I'm going to try a thiner rim and see what happen...
    I'm running a 17mm rim and it still rubs from time to time. Maybe my rear wheel isn't dished very well or something. I didn't notice the rubbing when I was running a 19mm rim, not that it didn't happen I just didn't notice it. --Mark

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    Don't forget the nevegal is a huge tire for a 2.2. Full width of knobs is more like 2.4 (at least with the 29er version they are).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    Don't forget the nevegal is a huge tire for a 2.2. Full width of knobs is more like 2.4 (at least with the 29er version they are).
    I think the 29er versions are a little different. The 2.1 version is pretty true to it's stated width or at least close to it. Either way it's still sad that a 2.1 is a tight fit on the 660.

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    What about WTB Weirwolf 2.1 for the rear and 2.3 for the front?

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    Yogi's 29'er (correct post)


    super smoothe and a joy to ride
    taken at the ACMC 08
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    Full XT (08 shadow),
    Thompson stem and Post,
    Velocity hubs and wheels,
    Azonic strip (checker) bars,
    oury grips, BBB disks,
    Conti city contact rubber.
    50/50 pedals

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    Nice Zion, looks very cool.

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    cant help good tatse

    thanks man

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    Rock Shox Reba 29er fork w/ lockout
    Truvativ Dose stem
    SRAM X-0 rear derailleur
    Fizik Vitesse saddle
    Truvativ carbon bars and seat post
    Truvativ Noir cranks
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    cheap Zion steel frame
    Juicy Ultimates
    Planet Bike carbon bottle cages

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    My Zion in Reba mode. First ride on a suspension fork in well over a year! Picked this fork up for my other 29er singlespeed with the hopes of keeping it for longer rides and an upcoming 24 hour solo attempt. Decided to give it a whirl on my Zion.


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    Getting there. Need to finish up the cabling and the brake adaptor. It was in the 60's this weekend, so I was riding the bikes that were ready to be ridden. Gotta get while the gettin's good in the Spring!

    Still need to modify the brake adaptor to get disc working on the old school Marzocchi but other than removing some material from the adaptor she bolts right up! That was nearly impossible to track down that adaptor. Had to get a trans-Atlantic delivery from Mr Bontrager himself for this little baby! True story!

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    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    Getting there. Need to finish up the cabling and the brake adaptor. It was in the 60's this weekend, so I was riding the bikes that were ready to be ridden. Gotta get while the gettin's good in the Spring!

    Still need to modify the brake adaptor to get disc working on the old school Marzocchi but other than removing some material from the adaptor she bolts right up! That was nearly impossible to track down that adaptor. Had to get a trans-Atlantic delivery from Mr Bontrager himself for this little baby! True story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog
    Getting there. !


    Awesome Zion 660, I'm impress ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
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    I was sooo close. It's fixed! Thank you!
    Quote Originally Posted by Hesh to Steel
    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    20" Zion frame
    Origin8 Black Ops fork
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    Singletrack Solutions bar ends
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    Surly chainring and cog (32x20)
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    Magura Marta red brakes
    Red Home hubs laced to Velocity Blunts with DT Swiss Champion spokes
    Kenda Klaws mounted for pics but will probably run Cross Mark rear, Ignitor front




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    Nice! Do you still have the white geared 737? That bike was a sweet build too. --Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    Nice! Do you still have the white geared 737? That bike was a sweet build too. --Mark
    Yep.
    I am a 2 Zion family.

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    My new Zion

    I picked up a Zion EBB660 and put together a budget SSer. I have yet to really test it out, but a few short rides have been a blast. Steel has a great ride compared to Aluminum. This bike went together very easy and was fun to build up.
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    Great, how much you pay for the ss wheelset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    Great, how much you pay for the ss wheelset?
    The wheelset is actually an old 9spd set I had lying around in my garage. They are an older Bontrager rims on XT hubs. A little heavy but very strong and reliable set.
    I ride at ludicrous speed

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    Then you used a SS converter kit... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    Then you used a SS converter kit... ?
    I used a set of spacers with a cog from my old SRAM cassette. I shortened a 9spd SRAM chain to the correct length then use the EBB to tighten up the chain. Pretty nice the way the EBB works.
    I ride at ludicrous speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrogeek
    I used a set of spacers with a cog from my old SRAM cassette. I shortened a 9spd SRAM chain to the correct length then use the EBB to tighten up the chain. Pretty nice the way the EBB works.
    cool...

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    My Zion on one of it's favorite trails.
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    Progress

    737 with 26er fork.
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    Mine!

    I've had this since they first came out, and this is its latest carnation:
    bontrager xlite carbon fork, specialized ti stem, fu2bar handlebar, avid ultimate brake lever, bb7 front brake, sun ds-1 xc/wtb laser lite disc wheel, ds-1 xc paul word disc hub with tomi-cog rear wheel, race face turbine crank, xt bb, crank brother candy c pedals, kenda small block 8 1.95 tires

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    now that TI is finally over i can post pics of both our rides in MTB form

    my drop bar ss
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_locust/2450422792/" title="pink kaminecki stem on zion 737ebb by th3l0cust, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2106/2450422792_2dfc37318b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="pink kaminecki stem on zion 737ebb" /></a>

    and the pair of em.
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_locust/2450511358/" title="Killer Duo by th3l0cust, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/2450511358_60761d8743_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Killer Duo" /></a>

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    my zion

    had trouble posting pix of it yesterday, here's the link. mine's in the front, with the orange sun ds-1 rims.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/josephssmoseph/2417952719/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsielen
    had trouble posting pix of it yesterday, here's the link. mine's in the front, with the orange sun ds-1 rims.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/joseph...ph/2417952719/


    Nice

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    the locust...

    Locust, did you get those carbon forks off ebay? I was looking at them also, they seem like a good price.
    I ride at ludicrous speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrogeek
    Locust, did you get those carbon forks off ebay? I was looking at them also, they seem like a good price.
    yep so far so good.

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    Where is your rear brake friend locust???

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR
    Where is your rear brake friend locust???
    fixie???

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    that would be my ride, and yep, it's a fixie thanks to the tomicog. i'm also running a ebay find carbon fork and wouldn't dream of going back

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    Great looking bikes everybody... I gotta admit that I used lots of your bikes as inspiration during my build. Let me add mine to the mix







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    sweet!

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    here's my 660 EBB i've been riding it for about a month now.
    my old stumpjumper is going to get lonely.


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    looks amazin.

    how do you rate those brakes. They look hot!

    who made these frames? they are neatly finished...

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    I'm still made I was not able to get one of the 737's..

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    Awesome Zion ...

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    Put the rigid fork back on


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    only bad thing about this set of potos... IS stopping and taking that shot on that hill P

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    Done and dirty 660 geared. About 26-27 pounds but rides so much more comfortably (and thus actually faster) than the 24 pound harsh aluminum-can-feel Giant XTC it has replaced. Check out the custom-massaged brake adaptor for the 1997 Marzocchi Z2 Bam (72mm of full coil buttah!).





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    With people liking mongoose and trek bikes now, what's next in this crazy world? People disliking the bottlerocket?!

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    My Zion keeps changing, kind of like a bike to run experiments with different setups. I now have a new Salsa fork, stem and drop bar/lever setup. It is super comfortable so far. Also put on a bigger ratio to make getting to the trail a little easier and also to make some local trails (which are relatively flat) a little more challenging.




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    Introducing Pinky the Zion cross bike.


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    My wife just love it ... Cool bike...

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    Nice, what gear ratio are you running on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    Nice, what gear ratio are you running on that?
    A very unmanly 44:23. 23T freewheel came with the wheelset so I decided to just try it and see. Seeing how I normally run 33:21 on my 29er SS, and all the ups here in Socal, it might just work out.

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    Last Encarnation





    Last version with Mavic wheels, WTB WeirWolfs 2.3 F & 2.1 R ,new Race Face grips and bashguard ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTR4EVR




    Last version with Mavic wheels, WTB WeirWolfs 2.3 F & 2.1 R ,new Race Face grips and bashguard ...


    Lookin' GOOD!!!
    Originally Posted by Vtolds/Dremer03---- "assume any bikes left unlocked and unattended are free to take"

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    Norwegian Zion - Updated

    I've realised the need for more travel and slacker angles, so the 80 mm R7 has been replaced by a Marzocchi XC 600 ATA 100-140 mm adj.

    Also I've finaly found som nice tires: Maxxis Ardent 2.25, front and rear. Sweet!
    My bike looks more like HTR4ver's now. It's the way to go!
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    Hope you don't have tire clearence issues with those tires ...

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    How and where to buy a Zion?

    Anyone have a link?..What's their 29er frame the EBB 750 or something? Is this right or wrong? Nice bike or what? Thanks in advance..CF...

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    They are gone they don't make them anymore.

    The 29er were the 737 and 737EBB.

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    Wow!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by marks_bike
    They are gone they don't make them anymore.

    The 29er were the 737 and 737EBB.
    Really? Dare I ask why? Also thanks for the reply.. ..CF..

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    They used to be the house-brand of Jenson USA, but they've killed the whole line. I believe a 29er single speed is a 737EBB. There's an old site: http://www.zionbikes.com/ that has some details, but as to where to buy, ebay, craigslist, pinkbike, or the mtbr classifieds?

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    What you mean, are we going on extinction?

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    Unless Jenson decides they'd like to bring them back, well, yes. Pity really, as I'd be hard pressed to give up my 660. I'd love to get a second frame just for backup purposes. Maybe Jenson will bring them back at some point. Didn't they used to make an 853, which looked much like the 660 but was made from 4330 (aka reynolds 853) instead of 4130?

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    Well, I'm lucky to be one of the last Zion buyers...

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    Zion is indeed JensonUSA's house brand. They make a run of frames every couple years. Usually a clone of a popular frame, like the 660 is pretty much a Jamis dragon copy with a slightly longer headtube. They will probably come out with something is 2009. --Mark

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    My Zion 660 @ the end of north fork trail in Lake Oroville

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRricki
    I've realised the need for more travel and slacker angles, so the 80 mm R7 has been replaced by a Marzocchi XC 600 ATA 100-140 mm adj.

    Also I've finaly found som nice tires: Maxxis Ardent 2.25, front and rear. Sweet!
    My bike looks more like HTR4ver's now. It's the way to go!


    Those Maxxis looks sexy and the price is not bad. With that setup you can ride anything.

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    I stumbled on something about the IRO Model 19 and at first glance it looks a lot like the 737ebb. A bit more expensive, but seems pretty close. At very least they look to have been built in the same asian factory.

    And they come in larger sizes. I wouldn't have minded grabbing a 737 in the same size as the IRO 20". My Large 737EBB looks closer to the IRO 18".
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    Inspired by Pabst Beer

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    I'm looking for a non ebb 737 not in green. If anyone knows where I can get one let me know. Oh yeah, large.

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    New question here.

    Just scored my first hard tail steel bike.. Zion 853!! Any ideas what to through on it for the build
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    The zion 660 out for a race.

    This is my second season on the zion. I love this bike. A few more upgrades and she will be complete.
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    Last Zion (?)

    Here is my Zion 660. Still in the process of being built although almost finished. Just waiting on the brakes to arive.

    Back on October my fiancé bought me the 660 EBB for my birthday. This may have been the last frame from JensonUSA.

    Here is my current set-up:

    Frame: ZION EBB
    Fork: SASO Carbon fork
    Headset: Woodman Axis SL COMP
    Spacers: Carbon
    Stem: B52s
    Handlebars: KORE Torsion bars
    Grips: Red OURY Lock-ons
    Wheelset: Sun Ringle laced to XT hubs
    Skewers: SASO Carbon Levers
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 5s
    Rotors: Ashima Air-Rotors
    Crankset: Race Face Deus, silver
    BB: Race Face ISIS spline
    Single speed cog: 16t Wheels Mfg SSK-3
    Chain: SRAM 991
    Seatpost: SASO Carbon
    Saddle: WTB Pure V
    Tires: Maxxis Larsen TTs 2.1(f)/1.9(r)
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    Hey Zion kids. Just an FYI. The Manitou Minute 29 fork with a Chris King Headset clears the downtube of a 737ebb when using a standard king race. No more +10mm races for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pho'dUp
    Hey Zion kids. Just an FYI. The Manitou Minute 29 fork with a Chris King Headset clears the downtube of a 737ebb when using a standard king race. No more +10mm races for me!



    Thanks. Good to know.
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    Thanks, I'm using a FSA Pig DH Pro and ahs no cleaence problem...

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    Can anyone point me to a link that has the Zion 660 frame geometry? It seems all relevant links to Jenson are busted. I can’t find any images through Google, etc.

    I’m about to purchase a frame from a buddy and want to compare the geometry to a Bianchi M.U.S.S. 17.5” and Surly 1X1 18”.

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    ZION GEOMETRY* 15" 17" 19" 21"
    Headtube Angle 71° 71° 71.5° 71.5°
    Seattube Angle 73.5° 73.5° 73° 73°
    Top Tube 22.24" 22.99" 23.74" 24.13"
    Chainstay 16.73" 16.73" 16.73" 16.73"
    Wheelbase 41.02" 41.81" 42.17" 42.60"
    Bottom Bracket 11.69" 11.69" 11.69" 11.69"
    Headtube Length 3.74" 4.13" 4.92" 6.50"
    BB Shell 68mm 68mm 68mm 68mm
    Front Derail 28.6mm, 28.6mm, 28.6mm, 28.6mm, top pull
    Seat Clamp 30.0mm 30.0mm 30.0mm 30.0mm
    Seatpost 27.2mm 27.2mm 27.2mm 27.2mm
    Standover Ht. 27.70" 29.11" 30.63" 32.42"
    Weight 4.3 lbs 4.45 lbs 4.65 lbs 4.85 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCharger
    Fork: SASO Carbon fork
    What is the axle-to-crown length of that Saso fork? (440 or 445 I assume?)

    I believe the Jenson 660 was designed for a 457mm fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushranger_Kiwi
    Just scored my first hard tail steel bike.. Zion 853!! Any ideas what to through on it for the build
    Finishing of the Build in the next day or so, will post some pics.

    Zion Steel 26er Hard tail Frame
    Manitou 80mm Forks R7 Absolute
    XT rear Derailleur
    XT Front Derailleur
    XT Shifters M750 Rapid-Fire
    XT Levers M750
    XT Cluster M750 9-Speed
    XT Brakes V (frount and Rear)
    SLX Cranks
    Chain: SHimanio HG
    Front rim: Mavic X517 (Ignigtor)
    Rear rim: Mavic X317 (Crossmark)
    Front hub: Shimano XT M750
    Rear hub: Shimano XT M750
    WTB Saddle
    EPX Carbon riser handle Bar
    EPX Carbon seat post (25mm layback)
    Shimano XT/XTR V-Brake Cartridge Pads
    ODI Cush MTB Grey Grips
    Cane Creek S3 Headset
    Hope Seat Clamp & Bolt Gon Smoke
    Thomson Elite MTB Stem Silver
    Hope Bottom Bracket MTB - Stainless Steel - Gunsmoke

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    Finishing of the Build in the next day or so, will post some pics.

    Zion Steel 26er Hard tail Frame
    Manitou 80mm Forks R7 Absolute
    XT rear Derailleur
    XT Front Derailleur
    XT Shifters M750 Rapid-Fire
    XT Levers M750
    XT Cluster M750 9-Speed
    XT Brakes V (frount and Rear)
    SLX Cranks
    Chain: SHimanio HG
    Front rim: Mavic X517 (Ignigtor)
    Rear rim: Mavic X317 (Crossmark)
    Front hub: Shimano XT M750
    Rear hub: Shimano XT M750
    WTB Saddle
    EPX Carbon riser handle Bar
    EPX Carbon seat post (25mm layback)
    Shimano XT/XTR V-Brake Cartridge Pads
    ODI Cush MTB Grey Grips
    Cane Creek S3 Headset
    Hope Seat Clamp & Bolt Gon Smoke
    Thomson Elite MTB Stem Silver
    Hope Bottom Bracket MTB - Stainless Steel - Gunsmoke
    Last edited by Bushranger_Kiwi; 03-12-2009 at 05:31 PM.

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