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    Show us your Seven

    One of the biggest issues I have found with MTBR is that you cannot search for “Seven”… What’s up with that?

    Anyway, I couldn’t find a “Show us your Seven” thread, so I figured it would be cool to have one. I’ll be getting mine within the next few weeks and I’ll post it as soon as I get it. In the meantime: Let’s see those Sevens!

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    My Verve...

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    Nice ride indigo. How do you like it so far?

    I am surprised at the lack of response to this thread though... Looks like no one on MTBR is riding Sevens!!

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    here is my new 100mm sola(2007) and followed by the old 80mm(from 2001) The old one gets rigid forks most of the time.
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    My Sola

    Here's some pics of my ti Sola. I really like this bike, but don't get to ride it much. I find that I end up riding my FS rigs more, just because they are more comfortable.
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    We have some traction on this tread!!

    These bikes are amazing. I can't wait for mine, which is shipping soon as far as I know.

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    bouncy seven

    OK I'll play too - here's my Duo. I built the bike up roughly when I was in two minds about whether I'd keep it or not and thought 'dang that's a goofy looking thing, I'll ride it a couple of times just to see what's up'. It rides soooooo nicely though it's quickly becoming my main sled. When I have a spare couple of minutes I'll go back and crop the hoses down a little



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    Nice Duo

    Everytime I see a Duo, I think to myself, that the seat-tube angle looks really slack. I don't understand how the Seven website lists the Duo's seat-tube angle ranging from 71.0 to 73.5 degrees.

    I'm glad to hear you are enjoying the Duo. Do you have any extended ride time on any other FS bikes? I'm curious how the Duo compares.
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    Duo vs other full suspension

    I've had a fair amount of experience with other full bouncers, compared with those that are comparable i.e 3-4 inches of travel:

    Moots Smoothie - tough call either way. The Moots is more flexible but feels racier (which can be good or bad depending what day it is) plus the inch less travel is fairly noticable on rocky stuff.

    Moots Mootaineer - Duo every day, although I do have a sweet spot for the Moots - you just can't get too aggro with it.
    The main complain slapped on most full sus Ti bikes is the rear is apt to be squirmy but the rear triangle on the Duo is so compact it doesn't suffer from this problem.

    I personally would be interested to hear from anyone who has a full Nelson - that's something I have an eye on for the future.

    Turner 02 - my all time favorite Turner, burners, fluxes, 5spots, RFXs & dhrs have come and gone but this one remains. I love the suspension action of Turners alas the recent Turner geometry has me as a tweener M to L and I don't dig the current fashion for stumpy stems. Anyway this again is a close call the Turner 'only' has 3.2 inches of travel but as with most Turners it feels like more. The Turner is >slightly< smoother down hill but ascending and technical honors go to the Duo - the Mavericks ability to round off square edges while you're squeeking up is impressive.

    I've had a couple of Mavericks as well - the Duo felt a smidgen smoother - that was probably just differences in the setups though.
    I could go on but I'm getting snoozy - basically the Duo is as able as anything else out there with 3-4 inches of travel and the cleverness of the rear end means you don't have to worry about platforms and lock out nonsense. It does look a bit freaky but doesn't have any weird ride characteristics (as long as you get the correct size which >is< more of an issue with this frame than something more conventional since the top tube length changes so much as the seatpost is raised and lowered. There's less wiggle room I suppose is what I'm trying to say).

    For really steep descending it's great as the saddle disappears with the crazy seat angle - I assume the values quoted on the Seven website are virtual.
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    Friends bikes and the Duo I borrowed.




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    yangpei scores?

    Hey yangpei was that you on ebay scoring that sweeeeeet deal on a duo? If so don't be shy about adding to the bike porn here when it arrives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haworth
    Hey yangpei was that you on ebay scoring that sweeeeeet deal on a duo? If so don't be shy about adding to the bike porn here when it arrives

    Yes, that was me. I'm looking forward to the Duo and will definitely add it to the bike porn when it arrives. Now, I just have to explain to my wife where the extra bike came from ...
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    My Verve Ti EBB with a Kelly steel fork:

    Slightly retarded people pleaser

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    98 Sola

    Here's my '98 Sola.

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    It looks a little different now. I'll post when I get time to take a photo of the new and "improved" set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haworth
    Hey yangpei was that you on ebay scoring that sweeeeeet deal on a duo? If so don't be shy about adding to the bike porn here when it arrives
    The Duo is on it's way. It should be here on Tuesday! I have been looking at light titanium FS bikes for a while. I wanted to add one to my fleet of bikes. I was waiting to see if Independent Fab was going to re-release the Tungsten Electrode, but it seems like it may be a few years off. Plus, at about $4900 for the frame alone, a TE would be too pricey. As Haworth mentioned, I came across a great deal on ebay for a Seven Duo. I've never really been a fan of the Maverick-style Monolink suspensions. But, I really like Seven's workmanship and attention to detail. So, I gave in and picked it up. It should be here in a few days and I'll post some ride impressions after I get it dirty. Any suggestions from current Duo owners about shock set-up? Where should I look for info on how to set up? Maverick? Klein? I don't think the Seven website has any specific info on shock setup. This pic is from the ebay listing. I'll post some better pics after I get the bike built up.
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    Maverick Suspension setup

    I also wasn't a fan of the look of the monolink but after some proper saddle time the action has really grown on me - it's a keeper.

    As far as shock setup goes the maverick manual says

    rider weight (lbs) / shock psi
    <100 / 25
    120 / 30
    140 / 35
    160 / 40
    180 / 45
    +200 / 50-60

    or divide your weight in pounds by 4.

    I found the above was a good starting point but ultimately I prefered a stiffer rear - I'm 175lbs and find 50 psi feels good. This also gave me the correct 17-20mm of sag when sat static on the bike.

    The best resource to use is the Maverick board here on MTBR both EthanF and Banks over there are a mine of knowledge - I think Ethan is a maverick employee. Good luck!
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    Awesome info - thanks. I'm about 178 lbs (probably 180+ with gear), so I'll start with 50 psi as a base and go from there. Thanks again.
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    My Seven, again. Finally the snow is gone and there is dirt!
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    Update

    Here's a photo of the bike with the child seat (above), taken this morning. Now with an On-one Midge bar and Fox F80.

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    Nice pic. I think your kid fell off, though. It must've happened on the rock garden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeadnan
    Here's a photo of the bike with the child seat (above), taken this morning. Now with an On-one Midge bar and Fox F80.

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    Is that a machete strapped to the top tube!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by indigosky
    Is that a machete strapped to the top tube!?!?!?
    It's the local equivalent of a machete, called <i>parang</i>. We were riding a remote and slightly overgrown jungle trail, so the parang comes in handy.

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    The Duo arrived today. Everything looks good. It's mostly built already. The bike came with a 26.8mm seatpost and if feels a little loose on insertion. You also need to really tighten down the seatpost clamp. I'm thinking that it may be too small. Any Duo owners know the correct seatpost size? My Sola is a 27.2.
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    seven typically use 27.2 always
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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn
    seven typically use 27.2 always

    Thanks. I actually emailed Seven and they confirmed that they use 27.2 mm seatposts on all of their frames.
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    sheesh

    Don't get me wrong I've had some absolute screamingly good buys from the bay over the years but dang some people on there just don't know which way is up. I'd 'casually' email the seller and ask him if that post was the one he'd always used / how long it had been on the bike for. Then I'd really check the seat tube for signs of stress / hairlines. If it came with the standard 'oversize' Seven seat collar I guess that may have prevented damage but whoaaaaa would I be nervous. Still on the bright side maybe the bike has less than 5 miles on it because the previous owner couldn't work out where the annoying creaking was coming from

    edit: Actually, thinking about it the carbon insert in the seat tube may act to mitigate such jackassery - after you get a reply from the seller you might want to email Seven, explain what happened and see if they'd recommend a new insert or something (that's if the bike was ridden on with the wrong size post - it could just be the seller wanted to keep his 27.2 for another bike and included the 26.8 with the bike hoping you'd 'never notice'.)
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    The Duo is built and ready to go. I got the correct size seatpost. The frame looks pristine - no cracks or dents. I still have to play with the fork and rear shock to get them dialed. I have some new stickers coming from Seven and likely will switch the stem out for a ti stem. Here are a few prelim pics.
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    nice score

    If only the seller had put up such nice pics maybe he'd have attracted more bids. Still worked out nicely for you! I'm probably being overly worried about the seatpost issue - it's just after having seen all the pictures of frame-crack-horror on mtbr over the years from wrong posts / too little insertion imagining someone hooning around on a frame with such an extreme seatpost angle using an under-sized post makes me pucker a bit.

    Anyway back to more pics please - does anyone out there have one of the original Teres with the Specialized 4 bar rear ends from '97-'98?

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    Haworth - I noticed that you were running a ti seatpost on your Duo. Any concerns given the ultra-slack seat tube angle running a lightweight seatpost? I currently am running a Thomson, but was thinking about switching it out for a ti post. I already installed a ti stem.
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    In Moots we trust

    I understand your concern regarding lightweight posts in such an application but honestly the Moots post has always felt at least as sturdy as a Thomson. I'd classify both as solid no-nonsense parts rather than lightweight-at-all-costs-slightly-compromised parts a-la Tune components. I'm a fairly hefty bloke and with this early iteration of the Seven frame I have a laaarge amount of the post protruding - later models have the extended seat tube and extra top tube brace which I think spoils the lines but in the real world is probably a good idea. Bottom line is I've been using the Moots for a couple of years with no problems. There used to be a guy on mtbr (terminaut I believe..... goes away... searches.... https://forums.mtbr.com/custom-builders-other-manufacturers/seven-duo-compilation-133.html) who had a duo with a ti post who caught a whole lot more air than I do on a regular basis and I never heard bad things from him.

    In other news - another lousy weekend in SoCal



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    Nice pics. I was out riding in the JPL / Chaney Trail area yesterday and the air quality was better than expected. It sucks about Chantry burning, though. Anyways, thanks for the link to Terminaut's thread. I may eventually spring for a Moot's post as well. The black Thomson definitely detracts from the overall clean look of a ti bike.
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    Facelift for Duo

    My new stickers came in from Seven today. I got several sets of stickers in case I want to change the look. It took about 10-15 min to remove the old stickers and another 5 minutes to place the new ones.
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    Duo upgrades

    I decided that I didn't like the Shimano Dual Control shifters / brakes that came on the Duo. So, I recently installed new SRAM XO trigger shifters / rear derailleur and Hope Mono Mini brakes. I also built up a new set of Chris King / ZTR 355 wheels for the Duo. Now, it shifts and brakes so much better. I also have an Eriksen titanium seatpost on order - it should be here in a day or two. If it isn't too hot this afternoon, I may take the Duo on it's maiden ride.
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    I added a new Kent Eriksen ti seatpost on the Seven Duo today. The Eriksen pewter color doesn't quite match the Chris King pewter on the headset / hubs, but it still looks pretty good. I liked the Eriksen post so much that I ordered another one for the Vassago New Optimus Ti I'm building up.

    BTW - I had a chance to take the Duo on some tight singletrack. This bike is awesome. It's almost telepathic. It also climbs significantly better than my longer-legged trailbikes.
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    Here's my Verve in it's current 1x9 state...
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    Seven love

    Pictures of my Sola and my wifes Verve. The pedals on her bike have been replaced with Shimano xtr and her tires have been changed to Kenda Blue Groove and Karma.
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    Okay 2 more Seven's

    Here are 2 other Seven's I have owned an IMX 29er and Duo-Lux. Enjoy.....
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    DUO LUX 29er

    Just received the frame last week. Last Duo Lux they will be making. Can't wait to build it up. Anyone have an idea of air pressure in the rear shock?
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    Sweet frame. Are Seven dropping full bounce altogether or just making the versions with the Al rear? ... or a new platform entirely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei
    Everytime I see a Duo, I think to myself, that the seat-tube angle looks really slack. I don't understand how the Seven website lists the Duo's seat-tube angle ranging from 71.0 to 73.5 degrees.

    I'm glad to hear you are enjoying the Duo. Do you have any extended ride time on any other FS bikes? I'm curious how the Duo compares.
    Not sure if this is answered elsewhere...

    Because of the slack seat tube angle, Seven measures the effective seat tube angle. Draw an imaginary line from the BB to your seatpost clamp. The angle of that line= your effective seat tube angle. Note that because of the slack seat tube the top tube gets longer (and seat tube angle slacker) the more seatpost extension you have. Effective top tube length is measured from the head tube to the effective seat tube line (not the actual seat tube).

    My Knolly is measured the same way.

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    2000 Ti Sola

    Here's a small sample of my Ti Sola which is currently being rebuilt. I Know the anodizing I'm having done void's the warranty. I figure if I break it I'll just buy a new one and see if I can reweld this one. She should be ready by the end of December. Hope you enjoy the picture, more wil posted soon.
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    Nice ano job - Leni Fried?

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    Yep Leni is doing the anodizing for me. Shes doing the frame, spokes and a few other ti pieces for me. Shes also painting my fork legs, cranks and h-bar. The cranks and h-bar are both Morati

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francine
    Just received the frame last week. Last Duo Lux they will be making. Can't wait to build it up. Anyone have an idea of air pressure in the rear shock?

    From Haworth's post earlier on this thread (4/19/08):

    As far as shock setup goes the maverick manual says

    rider weight (lbs) / shock psi
    <100 / 25
    120 / 30
    140 / 35
    160 / 40
    180 / 45
    +200 / 50-60

    or divide your weight in pounds by 4.

    I found the above was a good starting point but ultimately I prefered a stiffer rear - I'm 175lbs and find 50 psi feels good. This also gave me the correct 17-20mm of sag when sat static on the bike.
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    Woooooah there's some potential for some serious bike porn in the making here! Please don't be shy in posting the finished article - I too am a great admirer of Lenis work, I keep getting close to shipping off a frame but can't seem to come up with an idea worthy enough.

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    "Candy"

    My baby, after a refinish at Seven and new red panel graphics. Waiting for the new Elixir CR brakes that will go on it, along with an XO transplant to retire my XTRs.

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    I am looking into a Sola or Verve. I know you can have either frame's ride quality customized, but I was wondering if there was any distinguishable difference between the butted tubing of the Sola and the straight gauge tubing of the Verve--other than weight and possibly durability. I haven't seen anything written about the two in comparison, so does anyone have insight into this?

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    Your best bet is to go directly to Seven. Shoot them an email or give them a call: http://www.sevencycles.com/contact.php. From my experience, they have been very helpful. Good luck.
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    My Verve in it's new, winter rigid guise (I'm in the UK and it get's slow, muddy and wet, no good for suspension).

    Running a 6 speed actiontec cogset on the back on a Hope single speed hub, Moots stem and post, Jones bars, Black Sheep forks with 20mm axle. Other bits include Brooks Swallow saddle, Cooks cranks and Dura Ace gears:






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    New question here. Duo replacement

    I have heard a rumor seven maybe working on a duo replacement, i have gone back to a Sola after 4 years of pivot issues but the thought of bounce without creaks is still there

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    Seven tattoo

    Here's one of my Seven's that I own. I'll post pic's of my Sola ti when she's done being rebuilt.
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    I'm going in on the 17th to get measured, fitted, and order my Verve. I'll post when it's built up.

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    Hey Stickman - do you still have the Duo? If so the creakiness could have a reeeeeeally simple solution. When I bought my Duo the price was a relative song due, I suspect, to the previous owner not being able to solve creaking issues. Most of the time with these frames (and Mavericks in general) the problem is that the brass bushings twixt swing arm and shock are no longer fixed to the swing arm. The fix is to green loctite the bu&&ers in place and bish-bosh-bash smooth silky squish is restored and it's your favorite bike again.

    My name's Haworth and I've been without creaks for over a year now with this method.

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    I just put my order in for a IMX 29er this week. I cant wait to get the bike, to bad it will be snowy and cold here when it shows up, but I may have to make a few XC skiers mad and take it out on the trails. I will post pictures as soon as I can.

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    Picking up my Sola 29er SS today. Now if it was just Spring weather i can ride it all day.
    Came out to 20.5 lbs. Will post it up soon.

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    After waiting for 5 months for a Racer X 29er, I decided to cancel the order. Seven stepped up and my frame was done in a week.

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    FSA Riser bars, might go flat bars
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    Utterly lovely bike. Congrats. I take it you're a fairly tall chap judging by the top tube.

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    Just finished up mine too. here it is as promised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haworth
    Utterly lovely bike. Congrats. I take it you're a fairly tall chap judging by the top tube.
    Yeah tall with a long torso. I actually had them make the TT shorter than what I was originally going to go with. It felt good on the fit bike, but it seemed really long.

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    Thats how they had me fitted. Longer TT shorter stem than my previous bike. Came out to the same measurement but seemed odd at first.

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    Verve

    Perfect fit and ride - go Seven!
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    I am really liking my IMX also. Tomorrow will be the first ride on some trails hopefully. I cant wait to see how it feels.

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