I picked up my XC-604 freshly built early 2010 from a local rider that decided he liked cx better.
I have new BWW wheels on order and plan on ditching the dual control levers also. The new wheels are red hub/rim Pure XCR with black nipples/spokes and I have a few red things I can add to finish the color scheme.
I tow our Adams Trail-a-bike shifter around with it and have had the kids on some trails with it also---works great.
Since this is the "official" post your KHS pics thread, I'll repost mine for you all to gander at. Weighs in at 30ish pounds as told by the bathroom scale.
What is the difference between the XC series frames? I have a XC-604 that I keep promising picks of ( sometime this week) and it looks just like the XC-204.....
What is the difference between the XC series frames? I have a XC-604 that I keep promising picks of ( sometime this week) and it looks just like the XC-204.....
The difference is the shock the frame comes with. I believe the Team frames are made of lighter 7075 Aluminum. The design of all the frames are the same.
The difference is the shock the frame comes with. I believe the Team frames are made of lighter 7075 Aluminum. The design of all the frames are the same.
Well, technically the XCT is not part of the XC group. It has the "T" in it's name.
But yeah, the XC*04 all shared the same frame, just different shock.
Well, technically the XCT is not part of the XC group. It has the "T" in it's name.
But yeah, the XC*04 all shared the same frame, just different shock.
Trick? Technical? Trail?
Right. the XC 2-6 series are same with dif components. There is some other '5' series complete bikes too, but they have a different linkage setup then the XCT 555 frame (me thinks....) then I'm getting.
The 'Team' is more of a XC 'race' setup given the 7000 series aluminum material. Looks similar to the Giant NRS of old. If economy starts back up soon I may pick up one of those frames to build up a rocket aswell.
It's a 1993 KHS Montana Comp. It doesn't look like this anymore, as I'm currently working on rebuilding it.
Right now, all it's got left on it is the Derailleurs, wheels and crank. The bike was left out in rainy weather for a few seasons, and it has some rust on the frame in certain areas, like the air vent above the rear wheel on the triangle. I'm not sure if this will affect the integrity of the frame or cause it to be dangerous to ride or not? Any tips to determine if the frame is still worth salvaging? I guess if it's not, I'll just salvage what components I have and buy some random frame to throw them on.
Oh, should tell you what it is, its a XC-604 SE. Its an Australian special (well, as far as I know). It was the same as the standard 604 but it a Pearl White colour and had better spec's.
How about a crappy shot of my XC-604 with Trail-a-bike attached laying on the side of the trail while we have Kool-aid/granola bars?
We did about 3 miles at Waverly Park here in Louisville. That's our almost 9 year old and she said it was the most fun she's ever had. I'll be picking up a 24" mtb for her once I see one for sale on CL or otherwise locally. She's actually ridden Mommy's 29"er even though she can't touch ground on it yet.
I'll try to get some pix of my XC-304 later. Bought the frame from Jensen a few years ago and built it up. Manitou Black Comp fork (100/120), LX front, XT rear derailleurs, KORE post and stem, Avid 1st gen mechanical discs,Sun DS-2 xc rims, WTB EnduroRaptor tires, SDG saddle, Deore shifters and crank, Ritchey Comp pedals, Cane Creek headset........
I didn't weigh them separately, but with tires/rotors/cassette (no skewers) I got 8.2lbs for the set setup tubeless. I do know they're tons lighter than the cheap used ones I had on it just by feeling them, stronger too.
It's a 1993 KHS Montana Comp. It doesn't look like this anymore, as I'm currently working on rebuilding it.
Right now, all it's got left on it is the Derailleurs, wheels and crank. The bike was left out in rainy weather for a few seasons, and it has some rust on the frame in certain areas, like the air vent above the rear wheel on the triangle. I'm not sure if this will affect the integrity of the frame or cause it to be dangerous to ride or not? Any tips to determine if the frame is still worth salvaging? I guess if it's not, I'll just salvage what components I have and buy some random frame to throw them on.
PS Glad we finally got a KHS forum!
Those Montana Comp's are great classic bikes. I sold mine (I still regrete it) a fun bike for some old school playing around.....
She's built with X.9 rear derailleur and shifters, Deore XT front derailleur, Avid BB7's with G2 Rotors and Speed Dial 7 levers , SLX cranks, Recon 351 U-Turn 130mm w/Poplock (soon to be replaced with Reba XX's), Fox RP23 (thx Mnigro!) Easton Monkeylite XC Carbon Bar, Easton Stem, Ritchey Post and WTB Pure V Saddle
Here it is... my Lucky 7...in stock form (except for the handlebar)
At a local DH race we had at our little patch of forest...
Got a medium for my 6ft frame, perfect fit by the way.Changed some stock stuff like the handle bar to RF FR Atlas (all 31 inches of it), stem to 50mm 25 deg rise Hope FR, grips to Oury lockons, pedals to DaBomb Bullethole, Hubs to Hope 20mm FR and 150mmx12 RR, Cassette to SRAM PG980 (to accomodate the new hubs) and finally, tires to Schwalbe Muddy Mary 2.5 FR and Bontrager Big Earl 2.8 RR. Will be installing an MRP dual chain guide later this week...riding at 41lbs all in all.
^ i'm liking it. have you thought about upgrading that x-7?
Thanks...got that in mind, thought of going Saint with the transmission components but I figured, I was going to thrash it anyway since I'm new to the sport. Might as well, use this well then move on to Saint when I get a bit better at this. Besides, the Internal Revenue Service branch in MY house might get wind of it and audit me. I'm on evasion mode at this time.
09 XC-204, i'd post pictures of the bike in commuting mode but I don't feel like being flammed. Getting a 09 XCT-535 before the end of the month so I don't have to deal with switching my commuter stuff on and off.
Works just fine. I had some slack in the line, so I just used some velcro on the rocker to secure it. This was the best solution to keep it tucked in and out of the way. Doesn't interfere with anything.
You should reroute your front brake line so it's between the fork and the wheel. Less chance of it getting pinched or damaged if you had to lay the bike down.
Is switching rockers out like that a bad idea? I would assume that it could cause issues using a rocker that's not standard on the bike. Then again, I really have no idea - it's just me thinking out loud. :P
The rocker arms function the same as the stock ones. In fact, they have been used on older KHS models and are probably made in the same factory. Only difference is they increase bottom bracket height a little, increase leverage on shock, and increase travel options. They do, no doubt, void the warranty on this particular model. The bike rips nevertheless.
I have my (new) large frame coming in Weds this week... I already have my parts laid out and everything... Getting anxious as hell...
Glad WW.com took back the medium. It is a hoot ro ride for sure. Good luck with the re-build and be sure to post pictures.
Had a small crash today on my Felt hardtail jumping a berm! Told my wife to go ahead of me to take a picture of me getting some air and damn if she was not too close and in the trail and I barely got stopped but fell into her and her bike.
Glad WW.com took back the medium. It is a hoot ro ride for sure. Good luck with the re-build and be sure to post pictures.
Had a small crash today on my Felt hardtail jumping a berm! Told my wife to go ahead of me to take a picture of me getting some air and damn if she was not too close and in the trail and I barely got stopped but fell into her and her bike.
All is well, but it was close!
Hahaha nice!
Yeah - looking back I think I may have over-reacted a little bit to what the situation was because it really wasn't that big of a deal. WW did give me a scare though when I called to ask on the status since I heard nothing for 7 days AFTER they received my medium frame. They said "Ahh yes, Jason, I wanted to talk to you about something..." It seems as if I forgot to send my seat post clamp back with it, so they're just taking it off of the large frame they're sending me and that's that. Ah well, simple fix, my mistake!
I just got a shadow RD in too, which should accompany the frame nicely. Not to mention, a new hitch mounted bike rack that doesn't hang the bikes. It should work out VERY nicely for this bike and any bike I ever need to haul. Gotta love selling old college books for Amazon.com credit and having NO idea what to get but a bunch of bike stuff. :P
How do you like the X-Fusion fork? Likewise the 650 tire size? My lbs had the exact bike and I almost pulled the trigger on a 650 as well. I would love to climb with one to see how it compares to a 26"! Great pictures!
How do you like the X-Fusion fork? Likewise the 650 tire size? My lbs had the exact bike and I almost pulled the trigger on a 650 as well. I would love to climb with one to see how it compares to a 26"! Great pictures!
The X-Fusion is great...as is the rest of the bike! Only changes I made were replacing the rear derailleur with an XT Shadow and the cassette (SRAM Red).
Climbing on it was easier (to me) on the 650B than on a 26", only minor thing is on the steeps, I've had to lean forward (if only slightly) more than on a 26". Control on the dh is great.....no feeling of being too high as the center of gravity feels almost exactly the same as my 26's. I also test rode a few 29ers at the lbs but didn't like the "stretched out" feeling and the noticeably higher center of gravity of the 29er (as I'm only 5'8").
All in all, I have to say this is the most fun bike I've ever owned. Since I've had this bike I haven't even touched any of my other bikes. I got lucky and bought this brand new (for < half it's retail value) from a local lady who won it at a poker tourney.....it still had all the tags on it!
Just got a XCT-535 today and am currently assembling it but I had to take a break to upload a picture. I also got some more bikes as you can see from the second picture.
been a while since posting last, so what better place than a KHS forum
'06 XC104
what happened to the above frame
the result of what happened to the above frame
'09 XC604
dunno what it is, but the ride is different somehow, meaning much better. could be the geometry, the horst linkage, a new shimano LX bb or the cane creek headset, and the fact the head tube a frakking massive ,compared to the 104, or all of the above. I just don't know. not gonna complain about it tho . one thing i noticed about the 2 frames. the 104 had 604 as part of the serial#. what was sent has 104 as part of the #, but marked as a 604, whereas the 604 serial was marked as a 104. confused yet?
Question for the knowledgable folks here with the KHS bikes! What shock size is the XC204 setup for???? Is it the 6.5" shock or bigger???? I can't seem to find a spec. on it anywhere I go to look.
Brand new rack and brand new bike build. Very happy with that style bike rack... will never get a traditional "hanging" rack again. Very stable, secure, and incredibly easy to load/unload bikes.
As far as the bike, the large frame was definitely right for me being 5'11.5". It feels slightly on the bigger side for me, however that's how I prefer bikes to be, especially since I like really short stems. We definitely have a winner there. It did great on the trail as well. I took it easy to get used to it then halfway through really put it through its paces. Helluva fun ride!
Brand new rack and brand new bike build. Very happy with that style bike rack... will never get a traditional "hanging" rack again. Very stable, secure, and incredibly easy to load/unload bikes.
As far as the bike, the large frame was definitely right for me being 5'11.5". It feels slightly on the bigger side for me, however that's how I prefer bikes to be, especially since I like really short stems. We definitely have a winner there. It did great on the trail as well. I took it easy to get used to it then halfway through really put it through its paces. Helluva fun ride!
Question for the knowledgable folks here with the KHS bikes! What shock size is the XC204 setup for???? Is it the 6.5" shock or bigger???? I can't seem to find a spec. on it anywhere I go to look.
Thanks.
I think it's 6.5. just measured mine, so... . anything longer won't fit
nothing in life is real, so if anything goes wrong, blame the dead guy
That is what I was thinking. I measured eyelet to eyelet and that is what I came up with but did not know if there was budge room. Thanks for the reaffirmation.
That is what I was thinking. I measured eyelet to eyelet and that is what I came up with but did not know if there was budge room. Thanks for the reaffirmation.
yeah, there ain't a lotta room there. my 604 has about .5-.75in of room between the top of the eyelet and the cables running ubder the top tube
nothing in life is real, so if anything goes wrong, blame the dead guy
[I'll take and post a pic of my 02 FXT comp tomorrow, it's the same as EABiker's. I posted a pic in the General forum about a year ago when I got it, fished out of the scrap bin at the dump. Went for a short ride today, still some work to do, but so far I kinda like it. (My first squish bike)
I just built this bike in about 1 month. I never been out on it yet . . I still have to setup the sag and bottom out on the shock. The total cost was around 2,800.
Recently, I was shown a critical difference between the original style XCT, like yours, and the newer style with less travel. Seems the lower front derailleur cable stop on the originals has had some clearance issues...
I guess you've probably checked that, but I'm told that when it hits, that is the spot.
At least its not the front. And one more reason to go 1x10.
Recently, I was shown a critical difference between the original style XCT, like yours, and the newer style with less travel. Seems the lower front derailleur cable stop on the originals has had some clearance issues...
I guess you've probably checked that, but I'm told that when it hits, that is the spot.
At least its not the front. And one more reason to go 1x10.
That's the only vunerable spot. But like I said only when almost bottomed out. A little tighter clearence on the front chainstay bridge then with the Nevegal, but otherwise enuf clearences on sides of seat/chainstays. I'm running it 2x9 now which is great aswell. I've only had one ride so far with rr 650. Rolls great with the Pacenti's May put the 26" back on until I mod the shock. Don't want to slice one of these brand new Neo's.
My '02 FXT comp,, tried to edit my post from last October when I took the pic (Hey, I''ve been busy!!), but it was too long ago. New wheelset this year, new seat soon, looking forward to the squish!!
Here's my XC204 that I got last year as a frame and built up with old/new parts.
Parts list:
X7 Mid cage RD
XT FD
X7 Shifters
Shimano LX Hydro Discs 7"F / 6"R
Deore Outboard Crank with 26/36/Bash
Sram 970 11-32 Cassette
Cheap wheels - soon to be Forte Xenduro on back
Reba Team 100mm
Stock shock - looking for a cheap rp23
"High end" is all in ones mind. You've got him some fun on 2 wheels now go get it dirty! The smiles he will have are "priceless". Mine just started to ride with me on an entry level bike and he's 30!
"High end" is all in ones mind. You've got him some fun on 2 wheels now go get it dirty! The smiles he will have are "priceless". Mine just started to ride with me on an entry level bike and he's 30!
Dont have any "dirty" pictures, but its seen its fair share of mud already this year.
First time out trail riding for all of us was Memorial Day weekend and it had rained for 3 straight days and if I remember correctly was one of the wettest Mays in Michigan history. Broke us in right.
Originally Posted by STT GUY
Screw the search function... you're new, ask the question(s). If anyone gets thier undies in a bunch it's thier problem.
Hoping I can get a couple months out of her. Had a support tube added after the frame failure. I've read that your never supposed to weld a broken or cracked frame. But I did.
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Looks great kermit, what all have you done to lighten the bike? I have an XC204 in XL and it weighs nearly 35lbs. I love the frame and ergonomics so much that I don't want a to get a new bike, so I'd like to lighten it as much as I can.
First on my list is new wheels, seat post and handlebars.
I just bought my second KHS today. A 2006 Solo One with a Rockshox SID on the front. Can't wait to ride it on the trails. I'll post some pics as soon as I can, along with one of my 1993 Montana Pro.
New member here, I have amongst my bikes, a 604XC the SE version which is an Aussie specific one I am led to believe!
When I get past my 10 posts I can post some pics, anyway the ones I have are pretty crap I'll do some better pics at the weekend, I realised that I spend more time modding and riding than i do photo'ing hehe
Hi all just joined up and thought I'd introduce you to my UK Spec KHS 604.
(posted in correct place this time
Had it since last July and loving every minute I get a chance to ride it...
Made some mods to it, so upped the front rotor disk to a floating rotor 180 and rear floating rotor but left that at 160, DMR V8 flat pedals and some superstar lock on grips...
And finally a picture of the bike and me in action.. this was from last years Mud Sweat and Gears race series held locally in the UK, in the Essex and eastern region...
During this winter, I decided I was tired of my XC204's "burnt orange" color; dark brown and black just weren't cutting it anymore. I tore the whole frame down, scuffed it with a scotchbright pad, and shot it with Duplicolor anodized orange Metalcast. While I was at it, I hit the black pivot arms with a belt sander to remove the powdercoat on the sides; a quick clearcoat will keep the from corroding. I ordered new decals from KHS, rebuilt the suspension and now I'm back in business!
I decided that the upper portion of the rear swing arm looked better orange than black.
20 seconds on the beltsander sure dresses things up!
During this winter, I decided I was tired of my XC204's "burnt orange" color; dark brown and black just weren't cutting it anymore. I tore the whole frame down, scuffed it with a scotchbright pad, and shot it with Duplicolor anodized orange Metalcast. While I was at it, I hit the black pivot arms with a belt sander to remove the powdercoat on the sides; a quick clearcoat will keep the from corroding. I ordered new decals from KHS, rebuilt the suspension and now I'm back in business!
I decided that the upper portion of the rear swing arm looked better orange than black.
20 seconds on the beltsander sure dresses things up!
All finished. Now this is what I call orange!
It looks awesome man, did you use a base coat clear coat type of paint like what is used on cars?
Thanks! Actually, the pictures do no justice to the color. I used Duplicolor's Metalcast paint; it uses a silver metallic base coat, a clear candy orange coat followed by clear top coat. You can control the darkness of the color coat by the number of layers you apply. I did a bright to darker fade from front to back which doesn't show well in those pictures. All three spray cans were less than $25 altogether from the auto parts store.
Thanks! Actually, the pictures do no justice to the color. I used Duplicolor's Metalcast paint; it uses a silver metallic base coat, a clear candy orange coat followed by clear top coat. You can control the darkness of the color coat by the number of layers you apply. I did a bright to darker fade from front to back which doesn't show well in those pictures. All three spray cans were less than $25 altogether from the auto parts store.
So just to not be misunderstood, the paint job on your frame was done using rattle cans!!! WOW.... any tips on how to lay it down so smooth?
Yep, just rattlecans. I layed down all layers of all 3 colors in less than an hour. I learned, just as it says on the can, that several light coats are better than one heavy one!
Yep, just rattlecans. I layed down all layers of all 3 colors in less than an hour. I learned, just as it says on the can, that several light coats are better than one heavy one!
Alright thanks, hey one more question, did you have to scuff the paint between the silver and orange or did you just spray right over the base?
No, you only scuff under the initial coat on the frame, after that, just start spraying. I waited maybe 5 minutes between coats; probably took 3-5 light coats for each color to get complete, even coverage. Google Duplicolor Metalcast to see all the available colors, and how they turned out on other people's projects; pretty cool stuff!
I have KHS 525 and I want to replace the rear suspension , if anyone knows what are the bush sizes for this frame ? (its KHS 555/535/525 - all use same frame) . Pic attached .
Pic would be attached , but for some reason its not allowed .
I did mine about 6 months ago. Call Fox and they have all the information. I did see it on these forums somewhere, but I didn't need it because Fox has lookup charts.
“People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death." JM
I did mine about 6 months ago. Call Fox and they have all the information. I did see it on these forums somewhere, but I didn't need it because Fox has lookup charts.
I am having difficulties call FOX from my country , since we share the same frame maybe you can tell me what eyelet sizes are ? Probably I will buy suspension on ebay and I just trying to estimate what I am looking for .
I understand but you will NOT find them on ebay. It is not a standard size. I can't check it because I don't have an inside micrometer at my house.
I konw what your saying about the phone call, but in my opinion, it's the only way to order the right parts. All of the online shops I checked didn't have the right size anyhow.
This is what I ordered from FOX
Upper mount width – 22.2 mm
Lower mount width – 36 mm
“People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death." JM
I understand but you will NOT find them on ebay. It is not a standard size. I can't check it because I don't have an inside micrometer at my house.
I konw what your saying about the phone call, but in my opinion, it's the only way to order the right parts. All of the online shops I checked didn't have the right size anyhow.
This is what I ordered from FOX
Upper mount width – 22.2 mm
Lower mount width – 36 mm
Picked up this 2010 in april of last year, love it. Only upgrade being A Vader Seat and a Shimano Deore Crankset as I bent the teeth on the stock crank.
2010 535 a buddy picked up in may he's loving it as well.
I bought all the parts and pieces seperatly. Running fox F120 RLC FIT, Fox rp23 Pushed, avid elixir brakes, sram drivetrain, a mix of raceface and truvativ componets, and fort'e xenuro wheels with wtb moto raptor tires. Weights in at just over 27 lbs.
Here is mine. KHS Alite 4000. I build this one myself back in 2003. Bought the frame and a bunch of XT compoents and made my own. Comes in around 23lbs.
I have just gotten back into biking. I had taken a break from it in 2004 after I got married. I just did not have time, but I haved dusted off the old girl and started to ride again. I forgot how much I missed it.
Wow man, great looking bike! You are going to love it! They ride nice man, very agile, climb decent, and just seem to have a fun factor to them! Enjoy
First thing I noticed was the agility and was very happy. I'm not too experienced but the Fuji Outland RC I had previous didn't feel near this good. Felt like I never had control of that bike but this one feels amazing.
Originally Posted by JMac47
Very nice indeed!
Thanks a lot. I didn't want the white wheels at first but I kind of like them now.
Keeping in mind that it replaced an 8-9 year old Manitou Black, it's friggin sweet! It's my first air fork so I'm still working on tweaking it, but I had very good results on the shakedown run. Firm while the trail is smooth, takes up the little stuff like it's not there, very plush and smooth on bigger hits/drops etc. I have the rebound set not quite half way, so there is no "pogo" to it whatsoever. The lockout is also very effective, and despite it being my first fork with one I quickly became comfortable with reaching down to engage/disengage it.
FWIW, I'm a Clyde (6', 235 if I ask the scale nicely) riding NorthEast US singletrack (rocky, rooty, rutted, rocky....................) and I was very happy with the performance of the Enix, and that includes the lighter weight and improved stiffness over the Black.
I've always had a thing for KHS bikes. Bought a used rigid for about $125 in 1999 or so and it's been my #1 bike ever since though about all that's left stock is the frame, fork, headset, stem and bars.
I bought another used KHS (Montana Team), mostly for the XT components. Bought a very lightly used XT bottom bracket as well and bought a set of XT/Rhyno Lite wheels. Took the bike apart a couple years ago and repainted it using the green component of camo spray paint and built it back up with the XT stuff and the new wheels.
And I had this KHS Flite 700 road bike for a couple years. Got a great deal on it as it had been left outside and had some rusted bolts and whatnot. About $30 and some time and it was nearly like new.
My 2007 KHS xc004 that i bought off a friend. It came with spinner grind fork and a bunch of crappy parts. Upgraded fork to RockShox Tora Sl, easton mokey bar, specialized stem, Dt swiss 445d with The Captain tires, and avid bb7s. Bike lost a ton of weight!
The fork is a RS recon 351 at 130mm, but it sits closer to 140 if that makes any sense. The paul chain keeper does the job, i am looking for something a little more robust. The BB mount chain guide will not work with my crankset. Any suggestions?
The fork is a RS recon 351 at 130mm, but it sits closer to 140 if that makes any sense. The paul chain keeper does the job, i am looking for something a little more robust. The BB mount chain guide will not work with my crankset. Any suggestions?
So you don't have an external bearing bb I take it. They both have a seat tube mount style. I have a Paul, and an e13/Hive. I like the e13 a little better as it has a closed retaining loop in back similar to a reg derailur to keep the chain in position better.
If you're thinking on getting a newer cranks I'd wait and get the bb mounted type keeper with the upper/lower pullys for that bike.
As for fork on these, I'm looking at picking up a 140mm travel to build up my frame again. Found a Fox Vanilla but has 15mm thru axle and I need to get a hub to relace my front wheel.
So you don't have an external bearing bb I take it. They both have a seat tube mount style. I have a Paul, and an e13/Hive. I like the e13 a little better as it has a closed retaining loop in back similar to a reg derailur to keep the chain in position better.
If you're thinking on getting a newer cranks I'd wait and get the bb mounted type keeper with the upper/lower pullys for that bike.
As for fork on these, I'm looking at picking up a 140mm travel to build up my frame again. Found a Fox Vanilla but has 15mm thru axle and I need to get a hub to relace my front wheel.
I have an External BB, the crankset will not allow for any additional spacing inorder to work properly. The extra space added by the BB mount chain guide would allow my crank to pinch/smash the BB bearings, kinda like overtightening a headset. Long story short will not work unless i get a different crank. (Truvativ Stylo :-( )
There was a local seller here in az that had a couple Fox 150mm travel forks super cheap! but they were tapered so that was a no go. This fork is from an old bike, waiting till i have the funds to get a new fork.
Hi Pulley,
A couple of quick things, I run a Blackspire Stinger on my 08 and 09 XCT's using a Truvativ FireX, very similar to a Stylo. The first gen Stylo's had a short shaft, later model (07 +) should be ok. You can validate by looking for a space between the crank and the BB cup on the drive side. The manual is sketchy, but they say no spacers with a 73/73e (e= an extra 2.5mm). There have been threads about it in MTBR. It's worth a look, but not a guarantee with the Stylo, the FireX s definitly OK.
Also, if you want to run a tapered steerer, you can use a CaneCreek lower cup that allows a ZS44 to run an external 1.5. It will raise the front a bit, but not too much. They call EC44 (External cup for a 44mm).
Hi Pulley,
A couple of quick things, I run a Blackspire Stinger on my 08 and 09 XCT's using a Truvativ FireX, very similar to a Stylo. The first gen Stylo's had a short shaft, later model (07 +) should be ok. You can validate by looking for a space between the crank and the BB cup on the drive side. The manual is sketchy, but they say no spacers with a 73/73e (e= an extra 2.5mm). There have been threads about it in MTBR. It's worth a look, but not a guarantee with the Stylo, the FireX s definitly OK.
Also, if you want to run a tapered steerer, you can use a CaneCreek lower cup that allows a ZS44 to run an external 1.5. It will raise the front a bit, but not too much. They call EC44 (External cup for a 44mm).
The shaft was to short! alread had a full chain guide that would not work.
I have an External BB, the crankset will not allow for any additional spacing inorder to work properly. The extra space added by the BB mount chain guide would allow my crank to pinch/smash the BB bearings, kinda like overtightening a headset. Long story short will not work unless i get a different crank. (Truvativ Stylo :-( )
There was a local seller here in az that had a couple Fox 150mm travel forks super cheap! but they were tapered so that was a no go. This fork is from an old bike, waiting till i have the funds to get a new fork.
Yeah I couldnt quite tell what cranks you had, thought you had the older style bb. Doesn't the chain guide require removing one of the shim spacers in it's place? Still didn't work huh.
So I ran 650B wheels on my 555 when it was together. I wanted to try a real 650 frame so I bought a Ventana El Bastardo and swapped out parts. Nice set up but have to do some economizing now. Had/have the 555 frame for sale in here/Craigslist lots of lookers but no takers. Will get more net return selling the Bastardo then the few hundred $ the KHS will bring in. I'm hoping with a 140 fork and 650 front wheel it will get the slack(er) geo I'm looking for.
Yeah I couldnt quite tell what cranks you had, thought you had the older style bb. Doesn't the chain guide require removing one of the shim spacers in it's place? Still didn't work huh.
So I ran 650B wheels on my 555 when it was together. I wanted to try a real 650 frame so I bought a Ventana El Bastardo and swapped out parts. Nice set up but have to do some economizing now. Had/have the 555 frame for sale in here/Craigslist lots of lookers but no takers. Will get more net return selling the Bastardo then the few hundred $ the KHS will bring in. I'm hoping with a 140 fork and 650 front wheel it will get the slack(er) geo I'm looking for.
I had a friend that suggested i run 650B wheels. He "was" riding a Jamis 650B2 at the time, and wouldnt stop talking about how much he liked the KHS XCT. Let me know what the verdict is once you run the 650s.
As for the crank, it is currently set up w/o shims.
Also, if you want to run a tapered steerer, you can use a CaneCreek lower cup that allows a ZS44 to run an external 1.5. It will raise the front a bit, but not too much. They call EC44 (External cup for a 44mm).
Thanks for the heads up on lower cup. I hadn't thought of that.
The shaft was to short! alread had a full chain guide that would not work.
Is it an older version, pre-2007? SRAM has stated the newer version work with a BB mount chain guide. My FireX is late 2006, and does work. Either way, it look like you have found a solution. I'd like to see pics when your all up and running with chain stay mount. You never know when you need an alternative.
I had a friend that suggested i run 650B wheels. He "was" riding a Jamis 650B2 at the time, and wouldnt stop talking about how much he liked the KHS XCT. Let me know what the verdict is once you run the 650s.
As for the crank, it is currently set up w/o shims.
Worked great. BB a little high with them @ 13.75" w/130mm fork but good for pedal strikes on techy crawling. And the Special Ed FSR rr suspension is pretty good over all.
I have my complete Ventana El Bastardo 650B up for sale now, but if it ends up I only sell frame they'll go back on the XCT w/ the 140mm fork I'm looking at.
I'll keep tabs on thread and post back if I build KHS up.
From what I've read, you have to mod the triangle in order for the 650Bs to fit. Any pics of yours?
yes, what he said. have an '09 535 frame on the way and am kinda hoping to run it 650, as i have the wheels to do so, and a line on a fork that'd work.
From what I've read, you have to mod the triangle in order for the 650Bs to fit. Any pics of yours?
Technically it would be needed to shim shock, but @ 135# I never get it compressed that far. Tire selection comes into play. I've had 2.1 Neo's and Nev's oon. Have a Quasi now but not thrown it on to check. Appears they are pretty close to the Neo in size tbough.
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Originally Posted by bikingsoul
I'll put up some pics ths weekend- race on a Team ST and keep a 604 as a spare/trainer/weekday bike.
Begining to think I got the wrong KHS frame to build up...
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After lots of trial and error this is what i ended up with.
