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    My new Fango

    Just a pic of it.
    Very different from my Spider or Tracer.
    From Portugal.
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    Very nice. I've always been curious about these and would love to have to have one.

    Were you the one posting a while back about climbing techniques and how you bounce more on the Fango?

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    My spider is faster

    I arrived from my 50 km daily training on tarmac (asphalt). I usualy do 1h36m - 1h 39m on my Spider with the same gear. I made 1h46 m on my new fango!!!! Something I can not explain since I thought I could easely beat the spider time. Maybe I need I new ride technique. Yes the bike bounces alot compared with my other FS bikes (spider and tracer). I'm disapointed for the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by partially hydrogenated
    Very nice. I've always been curious about these and would love to have to have one.

    Were you the one posting a while back about climbing techniques and how you bounce more on the Fango?

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    Disappointing to hear that it bouncing like that.

    Have you tried contacted John Castellano about it? Maybe they need to change out that rear suspension elastometer to suit your weight or riding style.

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    a few questions (and some porn)...

    i have experienced the complete opposite of what you have stated.

    i used to a have a blur, the ripley was just plain faster on climbs, singletrack and anything smooth. i could climb a gear higher with the ripley then with the blur. the only situation the blur was faster in was really rocky stuff.

    what is you weight? what size frame are you riding? looks like a medium. it may be the elastomer. give it some time to break in, and maybe add abit of sram jonisnot lube.

    also, you can play with the sag (decrease sag by turning the adjuster counter-clock wise). i run abit more sag than what is recommended and my ripley just feels freakin' awesome!!! the elastomers come in a few different base weights. from there you can add more preload or less by turning the adjuster. if you are on the heavier side of the elastomers boarder, then i think the shock will not feel right in terms of damping. you will also lose plushness. I am 180 pounds and have the 170 elastomer, so i fall right into the middle of the elastomers range.

    my buddy used to also complain that the frame felt bouncy. he ended up wanting to sell it so i took the bike out for a few rides, played with the sag...and fell in love. i beleive that he didn't have the sag set up properly. i have atleast 20 pounds on him and had to turn the adjuster a full counter-clock wise turn to get less sag.

    now my ripley is set up as a single speed. too bad they don't make a 29er verison (yet).

    here is my ripley/fango with a float 100rlc, mono mini discs, 32x18 no tensioner!!!

    <img src=https://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/502/234616lo_res_ibis_SS.jpg>

    cheers and good luck.



    Quote Originally Posted by pintense
    Just a pic of it.
    Very different from my Spider or Tracer.
    From Portugal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pintense
    Just a pic of it.
    Very different from my Spider or Tracer.
    From Portugal.
    I really wish that Castellano would get around to making the Silk Ti version of that bike or at licence out the patent to a customer ti builder. I have a Silk Ti now but I want disk tabs, would love a customer bike with a shade longer top tube and maybe built for a 100mm fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braids
    ...I have a Silk Ti now but I want disk tabs...
    Spicer Cycles can weld Ti disc tabs to most Ti frames.
    He quotes a standard job at $150.

    https://spicercycles.com/index.cgi?c...c=Frame%20Work


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    Titus has been known to do the same thing.

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    Fango elastomer tweak = happy camper

    I just got my Fango this week, and thought I'd add my initial impressions to this thread.

    During my first ride, the elastomer was set too high - my ass got shot off the bike with every mid-sized bump. I talked to John, who told me the shock is set 30% above its rated weight to compensate for wear-in. I'm 135 with a 150 elastomer, so I backed it out two turns. The change was dramatic. I'm climbing one or two gears higher than before, faster and more confidently. The thing tracks wonderfuly on the tight and twisty, too.

    John also said he's got the materials on hand to start producing the new Silk Ti and a 29er version.

    Kudos to a great bike and excellent, friendly customer service. Exactly what you'd hope for from a small outfit.

    I'm also very pleased with the new RockShox Reba Race fork, but I'll save that for another forum.

    Here's a pic from that first ride, at the Nike missile site, Mt. San Pedro, San Rafael. Mt. Tam is in the background.
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    Silk Ti frames

    Good news for you all I spoke to John Castellano at Interbike and on display in his booth were a 29" wheel Silk Ti and a cross specifc Silk Ti. He even mentioned plans to ressurect teh Bow Ti too.

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    Re: Silk Ti Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by SortedCycles
    Good news for you all I spoke to John Castellano at Interbike and on display in his booth were a 29" wheel Silk Ti and a cross specifc Silk Ti. He even mentioned plans to ressurect teh Bow Ti too.
    boom shakalaka!
    although they will be very expensive (i read sth, about $3 - 3500) i start saving money for one as from now. so hopefully my brothers silk ti gets a litte sister in the near future.
    any pics from the 26" version?


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    Question about your fango

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycledelic
    I just got my Fango this week, and thought I'd add my initial impressions to this thread.

    During my first ride, the elastomer was set too high - my ass got shot off the bike with every mid-sized bump. I talked to John, who told me the shock is set 30% above its rated weight to compensate for wear-in. I'm 135 with a 150 elastomer, so I backed it out two turns. The change was dramatic. I'm climbing one or two gears higher than before, faster and more confidently. The thing tracks wonderfuly on the tight and twisty, too.

    John also said he's got the materials on hand to start producing the new Silk Ti and a 29er version.

    Kudos to a great bike and excellent, friendly customer service. Exactly what you'd hope for from a small outfit.

    I'm also very pleased with the new RockShox Reba Race fork, but I'll save that for another forum.

    Here's a pic from that first ride, at the Nike missile site, Mt. San Pedro, San Rafael. Mt. Tam is in the background.


    Hey ... thats a great color - which is it? Also - it looks like you have a small ... Im looking for one but was worried that I may be to short, based on varioous pleople writing that they had to go from Large to Medium. I am 5'^' with shorter legs, longer torso - are you anywhere in that range?

    thanks

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    [QUOTE=Braids. I have a Silk Ti now but I want disk tabs, would love a customer bike with a shade longer top tube and maybe built for a 100mm fork.[/QUOTE]

    I sent my Silk Ti to Castellano and he bead blasted the frame and welded on disc tabs. Turnaround was pretty quick, cost was about $400. I love this bike even more with disc brakes!
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    How do the Fangos add up geometry wise with a 100mm fork?

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    Fitting a Fango

    Cycledelic -

    Just curious how your Fango is working out - it looks like the smal. Do mind me asking your height and inseam and what size stem you use - I in the process of purchasing one hopefully b/f riding and trying to get a sense of what's likely to fit best, as i hear they size a bit big. I know this all subjective, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantB
    How do the Fangos add up geometry wise with a 100mm fork?

    The Fango with a 100mm fork nets a 70.8 degree head angle. I have it written on a post-it note from a conversation with J. Castellano since I recently received my Fango. Most interestingly is that it rides well and retains nimble hangling at 100mm on the fork. Most bikes that claim 80-100mm forks work at 80 and feel raked and sluggish at 100mm. Not so here. This dream is a race horse. Did I mention is is extremely comfortable? They are really great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braids
    I really wish that Castellano would get around to making the Silk Ti version of that bike or at licence out the patent to a customer ti builder. I have a Silk Ti now but I want disk tabs, would love a customer bike with a shade longer top tube and maybe built for a 100mm fork.
    John Castellano does make the Silk Ti with the pivotless suspension in both 26' and 29" wheels. With disc mounts. I am getting a 29"R version. You have to call him. The number is on the Castellano design page: http://www.castellanodesigns.com/
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    all good

    Quote Originally Posted by shapirob
    Cycledelic -

    Just curious how your Fango is working out - it looks like the smal. Do mind me asking your height and inseam and what size stem you use - I in the process of purchasing one hopefully b/f riding and trying to get a sense of what's likely to fit best, as i hear they size a bit big. I know this all subjective, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

    thanks
    ben

    Hey Ben, I haven't looked at this forum in many moons. Funny to see the bike photo back when it was new. Can't say how many thousands of miles are on it now...

    Yes, it's a small. I am 5'7", and don't know what my inseam is, but I think a little longer than average. I feared this bike was going to be too small, but it rocks. I can really huck it around corners like a BMX bike. The stem is a 110mm. I don't know what color they call it - I'd say black or grey, but John has some cutesy name for it, for sure. Call him up if you have any questions about sizing - he's super friendly.

    L8r.

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    L8r -

    thanks for your response. Actually I havea small fango on its way. We do see m to have different proportions as my inseam by book method is about 30.5 inches, which will be a little tight. And my torso is long - 2inch longer than normal. John C. has run it through his custom fit computer and come with a stem of 120 and a setback seatpost of 35mm, which sounds like a bit much - hopfully that will balance out the cockpit, without screwing up my knees over the bottom braket. We shall see - have you heard of someone with a short inseam still running this much offset???

    So I assume the ride is pretty smoooth?

    Also - ever compared the fango/ripley to a silk ti in ride? (although even shorter Top Tube for size)

    thanks

    Ben

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    Ben, where did you find a small Fango??? They're pretty scarce these days, especially new ones.

    Some info on sizing...i'm 5'9.5" 31.75" inseam and ride the small. Yes, I'm on the tall end of the spectrum but i straddled a med. and it's definitely too big for me. I'm running a 110 stem and about 25mm setback on my seatpost and it fits like a glove. Let me know if you have any more questions and post your ride report when you get your new ride!

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    Sorry about the delay ....

    Actually I got a lot of response from placing a fango/ripley wanted add. I ended up with one that was pristine - probably the LAST small and just had it painted by sycip. I had it painted lungbutter, after several different owners of ripleys sent me photos or theirs. I was a bit shocked because the color was actually lemon yellow, not mustardy, which I was expecting, but its really grown on me. I had originally sent them an email about the color and not to go too light, but it sounds like it got lost in the shuffle trying to match the original lunbutter. I think it will look great with balck components on it. Its an intense color. They actually double-coated it, which was a nice gesture as supposedly it looks much better. However the seat tube has very fine micro cracks around where the seat clamp was placed. So I am worried the the chainstays are going to do the same. Its still a fresh frame - looks brand new. I got all of the decals from scott nicol. Im still waiting for sycip to get back to me about the whether it will develop hairline cracks around the chainstays. Kind of frustrating after spending so much money getting it perfect. Any experience or thoughts on a double-clear coated powdercoat's potential for cracking? It seems like if anything thats more of a paint thing and powder coat seems a little softer than paint and thus more maleable.

    As for sizing, John C. was recommending I use a 120mm stem with narrow bars and a 35mm layed-back seatpost - that sounds like a lot of stretch compared to your fit. it will be tight for standover, but I am used to that. I wonder if your set-back and stem is closer to what I need? I think the problem is that my COG is pretty far forward and my arms are a little short.

    So do you find the steering is a little quick with an 80mm fork, or are you running a 100mm?

    thanks

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    hey ben, thanks for replying.

    yeah, maybe i should put up an ad to see if there are any more decent condition smalls left out there. you don't have any leads, do you?

    i'm running an 80mm fork and the steering is quick but not twitchy. one of my friends tried putting a 100mm on their ripley and hated it so he went back to an 80. i guess it depends on how you like your bike to feel. i like mine quick steering and that's what i got.

    did you end up w/ a fango or ripley? keep in mind the ripley's top tubes are 1/2" shorter than the fango's. if you like to be stretched out then the 120mm stem should be fine. i like to feel very compact on the bike so i went w/ the 110.

    post some pics when you get it built up! i would love the see sycip's version of lungbutter!

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    I ended up with a fango painted like a ripley ...

    these are actually identical bikes. John Castellano just bought off the remaining ripleys from Ibis as the bike was his conception and then repainted them them, typically by etiher customer request or distributed several through many bike shops. So the top tubes of both are equal. What you may be thinking of is that the Ripley/Castellano's TT is 1/3 and inch longer than the Silk Ti, which he now makes custom, closer to the ripley geometery, in theory, but customer bdoy geometry dependent. I actually have a weird body geometry (long torso, sort legs and arms) - and the custom is an ultimate goal.

    As for mine, is one of the last small frames that were left and was essentially untouched. The lungbutter color is probably closer to Lemonhead - which surprised me - sycip painted with a double clear coat and it looks sharp - I think better than original lungbutter. Alone is looks light, but matched with my black components it would look REALLY sharp. I also added some ibis downtube decals, which further sharpen it up and it has the bornze headbadge which looks better than the older ones.

    I think its the best Ripley Ive ever seen, if you like yellow. I will try to get some picks out when its built. I settled on this color - but almost went for orange - because I think these lighter colors work better on MTN bikes. They wear much better and do not show scratches easily. I was thinking about black and even red, which like a blood red, but I saw some riders with those and they really show all the wear.

    Now - as for small Ripleys - there is one on sale in the MTBR classified. I talked with they guy a bit about it in the past and it seems like a good frame. He's taken very good care of it. It used to be sheathed like a bedouhin. He finally moved on to a full sus. due to back problems.

    Are you looking to buy another? I still cant believe you ride a small. My small mojo seems cramped, although I dont have a set-back seatpost for it.

    Got any pics?

    BTW - sorry it took me a bit to get back to you - tell me if you decide to buy it.

    Ben

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    LemurianGuy - just curious if you find the Silk Ti is a bit short on top tube - the fango is typically 1/2 inch longer. Just wondering b/c I choose the fango over the silk ti because of the shorter top tube, which would require at 35mm setback seat post.

    thanks

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    What size fango?

    Hello All
    Haven't been on a bike in years (looking to work off some of this new found beer-fat), last bike owned was an Ibis SS which got ripped, anyways I'm in the market for a Fango, I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam will the 18" Large model fit me? Thanks.
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