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    Copy of MTB Cycletech Opium Flash

    It's dissappointing, leaving the celebrated fps system for a old style (but stil very good) horst link bike like the opium flash. Is there a patent issue behind this change in philosophy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stifu
    It's dissappointing, leaving the celebrated fps system for a old style (but stil very good) horst link bike like the opium flash. Is there a patent issue behind this change in philosophy?
    if you look closer, it is still fps...

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    fps features

    I cannot see any fps features, every horst link bike has a floating pivot or vpp or fps or whatever. Suspension behaviour will be very diffrent from what the LTX 160 was famos for! The bike linked below exists since 10 years with this design, so what's new about the new lapierre (damper mounted at downtube doesnt make a different bike)

    http://www.velo.com/bike.asp?id=98&category_id=2

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    No! You cannot see! Because if you could you would notice that there is a linkage just above the bb shell and that in conjunction with the upper link constitutes a virtual pivot point bike. It has the Horst link to make the ride smoother through the smaller stuff.

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    5 bar linkage

    So you would say it has a 5th pivot point - no way this cannot work! Maybe you see more than I do...

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    Well that definetly encourages one to consider the new XT wheels for ones own steed..
    Would anybody happen to know if they will be available with 6-bolt pattern hubs or just centerlock? Sorry the OT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stifu
    So you would say it has a 5th pivot point - no way this cannot work! Maybe you see more than I do...
    look closely above the bottom bracket, you will see ared pivot point on the seat tube. then you can find further back another red point, between these two red point there is one link.
    the other linkg is easily visible. and there is a last pivot point on the chainstays. so it is more ore less a vpp with one more pivot point...

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    stifu So you would say it has a 5th pivot point - no way this cannot work! Maybe you see more than I do...

    Soooo....... I guess you are an engineer specializing in bicycle suspension.

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    Nothing new

    look at the orange photo and you see that there is only one sinlge pivot right above the bb, so just the same as mtb cycletech flash

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    Where do you see an orange photo? We are talking of the black Spicy, I presume.
    If you clearly open your eyes and notice that each pivot point is fastened with a red anodised bolt, then you will finally see that with the Horst link and the other "pivots"(as were identified by the bolts in red) as numbering 5.

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    where is the 5th pivot?

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    The upper red dot is a sticker and if it was a pivot then that would be the most non-rigid design to date. It is a FSR design. In the article on the Bike Kulture site it says that the system was developed for bigger travel platforms. Patent laws only apply to sales in the states and Lapierre is a French company. Anyways, the bottom link on the X160 doesn't really move all that much. The old was a VPP and the new is a FSR. All the good designs already exist. It is hard to reinvent the wheel.

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    oh... i'm sorry, i thought it was a pivot point but you're right, it's just a fsr...

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    I have no time to waste on amateur engineers who take there information from badly botched photos with inserts that hide most of the link. Bye Bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guybomba
    I have no time to waste on amateur engineers who take there information from badly botched photos with inserts that hide most of the link. Bye Bye!
    My friend Amael Donet is the tester from Bike Kulture who rode these bikes and he said they even patented their re-arrangement of the pivot points of the FSR design. Nobody is trying to be amateur engineers here. He liked the bike by the way.

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    Passport

    Lapierre has a new foldable bike, the Passport
    https://www.mtnbikeriders.com/2007/0...erre-passport/



    Reminds me of a Salsa Dos Niner with it's small shock up at the top of the seat tube.


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    Has any one got the 08 bikes yet or has tried one. Cos I really want to know what they are like and see some pics.

    My dealer doesn’t have one that can be tested of road-they’re all shiny and new so he doesn’t want to muck them up before selling them.

    Please let there be someone-go on, you know you want to

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpp
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