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    Custom builders in Europe

    Hi,

    I'm in the market for a new custom steel frame. I like the Strong and Soulcraft frames, but since I live in Europe (Netherlands) I wonder if there are some good builders over here in Europe?

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    This guy is in Italy and seems to do a great job.

    http://www.crisptitanium.com/

    Do a search for Chas Roberts, Dave Yates, Arthur Caygill in the UK.

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    http://www.wiesmann-bikes.de/

    Hi, Wiesman are the only custom steel maker that I know, unfortunately they are ridiculously expensive. If I were you i'd ditch the idea of buying European, too expensive, the best frame builders are in the US. i.e. www.Thylacinecycles.com .

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    There is a big thread about a Crisp frame project in the Singlespeed area. Pretty awsome. Nobody has spelled out what it cost, though, and I am not sure if he does non-titanium stuff.

    Curtis leans more towards hard core hardtails but they also do XC oriented frames.

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    Thanks for all the info ...

    I'm looking for a light pure XC frame in the Euro 1000,- range, so that will sule out most Ti frames. The prices of Wiesmann seem pretty steep to.

    I like what I see at Solitude, any guess what price range he's in? The Curtis XC frame also lokes very nice, although it might be a little on the heavy side.

    Found this one myself, has anybody experience with these builders?

    http://www.germans-cycles.de/

    http://www.duell.nl/frame_info.asp?frameid=13

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    I think you should speak to Warwick at Thylacine before making a decision.

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    i'd expect to pay around the £700 mark for a solitude, thats about what i paid for mine but the price varies depending on spec.

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    I was just thinking that Nicolai also does "custom" frames but they only work with aluminum and have a pretty different style.

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    http://www.curtisbikes.co.uk/
    Edit: Oops. Sorry. Already there.
    Last edited by Bone Collector; 10-27-2006 at 10:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20_bandh
    I think you should speak to Warwick at Thylacine before making a decision.
    20_bandh lives in Germany and we recently shipped him a really sweet Ti hardtail.

    Jowan, a custom steel hardtail that's worth having would be tough to get under €1000. Our Arete model is €1150 and the Arete SL is €1350. That includes shipping within the EU but doesn't include VAT or any other taxes and charges.

    For comparisson, an Arete Ti will set you back €2155.

    Shipping and dealing internationally couldn't be easier as 20_bandh will attest, and we're set up especially for it.
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    Don't forget Pegoretti. Dario makes one of the best frames, period.
    He also makes a nice MTB frame, but I believe that guys here are right - it's actualy cheaper to buy US made frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime
    There is a big thread about a Crisp frame project in the Singlespeed area. Pretty awsome. Nobody has spelled out what it cost, though, and I am not sure if he does non-titanium stuff.


    Darren Crisp does Ti-only. Frame prices (full custom) start at 1800 Euro's. Him being in Europe was one of my reasons for going his way. He's a skilled crafstman and a bike-nut pur sang.... Drop him an email with your idea's. (warning; he'll be out of the office till mid january though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genubah
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    Asking the same question on the Singletrack board will provide a better range of answers from the UK.

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    price

    I build frames and plan to start a commercial frameshop sometime next year (in Holland). I have taken the winter off to get set up properly and to build a couple frames for myself. I never even had time for that when I was building as a hobby.

    I think a custom frame under 1000 euro is possible (I don't build them), but will force you to give up some demands. There is are levels of custom. A full custom with a lot of your wishes incorporated will cost more then 1000. Hourly rates are also higher in Europe so European builders might also charge more for a frame. But having your builder near and being able to meet him/her and talk about your frame also makes you end up with a frame better fitting to your needs!!

    You could also call M-gineering.nl, he is also singlespeed minded and able to build something nice.

    I am not up and running yet but will make a lot of noice once the time comes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowan
    Found this one myself, has anybody experience with these builders?

    http://www.germans-cycles.de/

    http://www.duell.nl/frame_info.asp?frameid=13

    Jowan
    Although, from the mentioned alternatives I ´ld go with solitude, I know a few guys who are very very satisfied with their GERMANS. If I kept it right, it is the longtime housebrand of the former Yeti & Co distributer German Möhren, who has a lot of experience in MTB. Design, specification, and so on is his task. The welding process makes a little italien manufacture. I can´t remember wich one.
    The Pricing for fully custom is fair, they usually does a proper powdercoating but if you are looking for any exentric paintjob (spectrum?) or frame design (dekerf/retrotec?), remember, you are in good ol´ traditional europe. We have culture, we don´t need to be experienced

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