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    Good job! Can your trailbike do this?

    This image just showed up on the Chumba homepage. Juxtapose this with the XCL as an endurance bike thread and you've got a seriously versatile bike. Pretty much makes you realize that most of us are getting only a fraction of the performance out of our bikes... and we're the limiting factor! At least I am. I can barely jump off a curb.



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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    Pretty much makes you realize that most of us are getting only a fraction of the performance out of our bikes... and we're the limiting factor! At least I am. I can barely jump off a curb.
    Dude! I just graduated from jumping curbs only last week. At this rate I'll be jumping like the guy in that ad when I'm 96.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky D
    Dude! I just graduated from jumping curbs only last week. At this rate I'll be jumping like the guy in that ad when I'm 96.
    Me and you both, brother!

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    I can jump like that guy, but the landings are another story!

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    Great ad.
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    I wonder how the frame will hold up to repeated 30' gaps. Most 5" bikes are not made to do that. All depends on a rider's smoothness too...sponsored riders are pretty smooth you know!

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    I was wondering the same thing about repeated "abuse" like that as the XCL is one of the frames I'm considering. It wouldn't see that type of riding every day, but there would be a few trips each year when the bike would see some sizeable gaps and some fairly nasty terrain. I know the EVO would be the logical choice for abusive riding, but I prefer the geometry of the XCL and I think it's just a better looking bike than the EVO.
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    Really I think it comes down to two things if you are pushing it like that:
    1. Will the failure be catastrophic
    2. Will they replace the frame at no charge and no hassle?

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    I remember a few years ago many riders were using the 5" SC Heckler as a do everything bike, including road gaps. The Heckler held up quite well and I don't see why the XCL wouldn't either, considering the burliness of the frame.

    Nice transitions and smoothness have a lot to do with a frames longevity as well.

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    big deal....ANY bike can do that. Its how they handle the landing that is different

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    That frame would break in no time doing that in any sort of regularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero
    I wonder how the frame will hold up to repeated 30' gaps. Most 5" bikes are not made to do that. All depends on a rider's smoothness too...sponsored riders are pretty smooth you know!
    Dakota probably did 20-30 sizeable jumps that day - uses the same frame for 4X racing - and freerides it every week. Of course any frame is subject to failure after repeated abuse - we're just pointing out that the XCL is much burlier/aggressive bike than your standard 5 inch travel bike that still weighs in the 6lb. range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acme54321
    That frame would break in no time doing that in any sort of regularity.
    Actually, we have been doing that regularly on the XCL - although I will qualify by saying this is not something we are recommending to do.
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    Well there ya go folkes, straight from the manufacturer. SO go right ahead and buy one of those frames and (abuse) ride the crap out of it and when it breaks and they don't want to give you a new one, point them to this thread and their own words.

    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    Dakota probably did 20-30 sizeable jumps that day - uses the same frame for 4X racing - and freerides it every week. Of course any frame is subject to failure after repeated abuse - we're just pointing out that the XCL is much burlier/aggressive bike than your standard 5 inch travel bike that still weighs in the 6lb. range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Well there ya go folkes, straight from the manufacturer. SO go right ahead and buy one of those frames and (abuse) ride the crap out of it and when it breaks and they don't want to give you a new one, point them to this thread and their own words.
    uhh...not quite. We do have people using the frames for occassional freeride and for 4x, and if there is a failure we do honor the warranty - but any intentional or unreasonable abuse of the frame is obviously something we don't condone. But yes, we do encourage our customers to "ride the crap" out of their bikes. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronny
    I remember a few years ago many riders were using the 5" SC Heckler as a do everything bike, including road gaps. The Heckler held up quite well and I don't see why the XCL wouldn't either, considering the burliness of the frame.

    Nice transitions and smoothness have a lot to do with a frames longevity as well.
    Exactly. A smooth transition coupled with a skilled rider will reduce the amount of stress put on the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    this is not something we are recommending to do.
    Maybe I'm not the target audience of the ad, but I am wondering how that pic with the tag line "can your trailbike do this?" is not implying that you recommend that particular use of the XCL?

    I think you should post a pic of someone going as big as you recommend Scruffylooking go on that frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Maybe I'm not the target audience of the ad, but I am wondering how that pic with the tag line "can your trailbike do this?" is not implying that you recommend that particular use of the XCL?
    Couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Maybe I'm not the target audience of the ad, but I am wondering how that pic with the tag line "can your trailbike do this?" is not implying that you recommend that particular use of the XCL?

    I think you should post a pic of someone going as big as you recommend Scruffylooking go on that frame.
    What we were implying is that the XCL is a freeride capable bike - but obviously within limits as it was designed primarily as a trail bike - if you really want to go big often - we have the EVO for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    Actually, we have been doing that regularly on the XCL - although I will qualify by saying this is not something we are recommending to do.
    Im must glad there are still some "real" 5/6 inch bikes like yours still being made with owners not caving to lame marketing pressures to make em light as possible cuz that is what the ex-roadie yuppies want (wont mention the other manufacturers i am speaking of who are caving to aforementioned marketing pressures)

    and i woudl recommend that use...hell, you aint gonna have many folks riding like that anyway so the increased cost (warranty) benefit (advertising as a manly bike) favors the benefit side of the equation i'll bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Im must glad there are still some "real" 5/6 inch bikes like yours still being made with owners not caving to lame marketing pressures to make em light as possible cuz that is what the ex-roadie yuppies want (wont mention the other manufacturers i am speaking of who are caving to aforementioned marketing pressures)

    and i woudl recommend that use...hell, you aint gonna have many folks riding like that anyway so the increased cost (warranty) benefit (advertising as a manly bike) favors the benefit side of the equation i'll bet
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Im must glad there are still some "real" 5/6 inch bikes like yours still being made with owners not caving to lame marketing pressures to make em light as possible cuz that is what the ex-roadie yuppies want (wont mention the other manufacturers i am speaking of who are caving to aforementioned marketing pressures)

    and i woudl recommend that use...hell, you aint gonna have many folks riding like that anyway so the increased cost (warranty) benefit (advertising as a manly bike) favors the benefit side of the equation i'll bet
    I agree with Fo.

    What I get out of the ad is, Chumba is confident in the quality of their frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I agree with Fo.

    What I get out of the ad is, Chumba is confident in the quality of their frames.
    well put (somebody else must have typed that for you)....

    while i have never had the pleasure to ride a Chumba (yet), it nevertheless resides on my VERY short list of bikes and that ad places it perhaps one notch higher now

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I think you should post a pic of someone going as big as you recommend Scruffylooking go on that frame.
    Cheese, that'd take some serious photog skills cause I'm only in the air for like 0.0000023421 seconds.

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    Well according to that Ad and your campaign, if I were a new buyer looking I'd think "WOW a FR bike around 31lbs, great and then ride it like that constantly." Because that is what you're marketing and who's to say I abused the bike,, didn't do it to smooth transitions and have the skillz necessary to pull it off like your pro rider This WILL open you up to a whole can of worms and it'll be your fault, if you don't honor the warranties you could be sued for false advertising.

    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    uhh...not quite. We do have people using the frames for occassional freeride and for 4x, and if there is a failure we do honor the warranty - but any intentional or unreasonable abuse of the frame is obviously something we don't condone. But yes, we do encourage our customers to "ride the crap" out of their bikes. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    Cheese, that'd take some serious photog skills cause I'm only in the air for like 0.0000023421 seconds.
    Lol, Scruffy and I are in the same boat. My jumping only consists of the accidental bunny-hop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Well according to that Ad and your campaign, if I were a new buyer looking I'd think "WOW a FR bike around 31lbs, great and then ride it like that constantly." Because that is what you're marketing and who's to say I abused the bike,, didn't do it to smooth transitions and have the skillz necessary to pull it off like your pro rider This WILL open you up to a whole can of worms and it'll be your fault, if you don't honor the warranties you could be sued for false advertising.
    blah blah blah....go to the 29er forum where people worry about such things

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    blah blah blah....go to the 29er forum where people worry about such things
    LOL

    Fo, if you ever find your way down to Orange County we should go visit the Chumba HQ. I'm hoping to head over there this afternoon to bug Chumbaevo and give him a hard time for making a sturdy yet reasonably weighted trailbike that does endurance races and hucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    LOL

    Fo, if you ever find your way down to Orange County we should go visit the Chumba HQ. I'm hoping to head over there this afternoon to bug Chumbaevo and give him a hard time for making a sturdy yet reasonably weighted trailbike that does endurance races and hucks.
    you bet....planning on a ventana visit this summer too but a chumba field trip would be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Well according to that Ad and your campaign, if I were a new buyer looking I'd think "WOW a FR bike around 31lbs, great and then ride it like that constantly." Because that is what you're marketing and who's to say I abused the bike,, didn't do it to smooth transitions and have the skillz necessary to pull it off like your pro rider This WILL open you up to a whole can of worms and it'll be your fault, if you don't honor the warranties you could be sued for false advertising.
    I say buy one and test your theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    but a chumba field trip would be great
    And closer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevegal
    My jumping only consists of the accidental bunny-hop.
    Those scare the crap out of me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    the XCL is a freeride capable bike
    The Ibis Moho apparently does DH.

    And the Turner Highline does XC.

    I'm so confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    The Ibis Moho apparently does DH.

    And the Turner Highline does XC.

    I'm so confused.

    30 feet gaps on an all carbon XC bike; and XC races on a 11lb. frame that builds up around 35-40lbs -- even if it was true -- you'd still be better off with a XCL.

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    AND why would I do that I ride a perfectly good 29er now, why should I go back to a 26" wheeled bike that doesn't suit my riding style
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky D
    I say buy one and test your theory.
    If I should go back there because I ride a 29er then where does someone like you who doesn't ride go
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    blah blah blah....go to the 29er forum where people worry about such things
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    AND why would I do that I ride a perfectly good 29er now, why should I go back to a 26" wheeled bike that doesn't suit my riding style


    If I should go back there because I ride a 29er then where does someone like you who doesn't ride go
    I think what Fo was saying is that some people might rather not have you in this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    I think what Fo was saying is that some people might rather not have you in this forum.
    so long as tscheezy participates, there is really nobody else needed , self included

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    And the Turner Highline does XC.
    silly tscheezy, ONLY if its an XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    This image just showed up on the Chumba homepage. Juxtapose this with the XCL as an endurance bike thread and you've got a seriously versatile bike. Pretty much makes you realize that most of us are getting only a fraction of the performance out of our bikes... and we're the limiting factor! At least I am. I can barely jump off a curb.



    Sick.
    I just finished 4 months of rehabbing from surgery to repair a repeatedly dislocating shoulder and my shoulder just re-dislocated from looking at that gap

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    I just finished 4 months of rehabbing from surgery to repair a repeatedly dislocating shoulder and my shoulder just re-dislocated from looking at that gap

    The boyz got skillz
    Haha. Sorry Squeek! I didn't mean to re-injure you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    AND why would I do that I ride a perfectly good 29er now, why should I go back to a 26" wheeled bike that doesn't suit my riding style
    Well then, I guess there's not much sense in you trolling here then... is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    I just finished 4 months of rehabbing from surgery to repair a repeatedly dislocating shoulder and my shoulder just re-dislocated from looking at that gap

    The boyz got skillz
    dude, its your own fault dumbazz. I told u to see a chiropractor in which case u would not have needed surgery at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    dude, its your own fault dumbazz. I told u to see a chiropractor in which case u would not have needed surgery at all.
    Chiropractors are stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Chiropractors are stupid.
    and being stupid is ghey

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    I just finished 4 months of rehabbing from surgery to repair a repeatedly dislocating shoulder and my shoulder just re-dislocated from looking at that gap

    The boyz got skillz
    Is that a picture of Jason (of Chumba)?


    And by the way, I rode my bike off a 20 foot cliff at Bootleg Canyon, and it was fine (although my face was not ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Chocula
    Is that a picture of Jason (of Chumba)?
    Dakota Dulmage. Teen rider from Orange County. I think he's still in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    Dakota Dulmage. Teen rider from Orange County. I think he's still in high school.
    i always hated high school

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    i always hated high school
    Couldn't get laid then either, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Couldn't get laid then either, huh?
    still dont get laid.....i am married

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    Is that the kid that has been out at Fontana for the last few races?

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