Here it is the 6 point 8. Just built up and is already sold. Bang!
IH really stepped up on this frame. The attention to detail is crazy.
The good news for us (JRA) is there is another 6 point 8 in the process of being built.
will you bless us with the first shots of a 6.8 on actual dirt!!!!!!
Hey I ride a 19", coincidence?
I will need to make a few parts swap beforehand. I don’t have the replacement fork yet and want to sell the Fox as NEW. Can't wait...tomorrow is going to be MY Christmas!!
I'm 5'11" and from what I've read I could really go with either size so I'm interested to hear what led you to the 19". Isn't your 7.7 a 17"?
I'm looking forward to a test ride on a 6point soon. Maybe there will be an RFX in the classifieds before long...
I’m 5’10” and like to run a short stems on all my bikes (e.g. between 55 and 65 – but my DH has a 45).
My 7Point is indeed a 17”, but it has a 23” Effective TT (with a 55mm stem)
My Sunday has a 23.5 Effective TT (and that’s a DH bike)
My MkIII has a 23.25 Effective TT (with a 65mm stem)
See the pattern? I like effective TT’s that are about 23”. The 19” 6Point offers a 23” TT without the setback seatpost, which I won’t be running. The 17” is 22” – I cannot see myself do long epic rides on a bike that has a 22” TT. Maybe if I wasn’t doing much climbing, but the 6Point is designed to be pedaled up the mountain.
so in short...I "assume" the 19" is what I need. The Wheelbase is a bit longer than my MkIII but pretty much on par with my 7Point - should make for a super stable bike on those fast fun descents, which is what I will be seeking on this bike!
I’m 5’10” and like to run a short stems on all my bikes (e.g. between 55 and 65 – but my DH has a 45).
My 7Point is indeed a 17”, but it has a 23” Effective TT (with a 55mm stem)
My Sunday has a 23.5 Effective TT (and that’s a DH bike)
My MkIII has a 23.25 Effective TT (with a 65mm stem)
See the pattern? I like effective TT’s that are about 23”. The 19” 6Point offers a 23” TT without the setback seatpost, which I won’t be running. The 17” is 22” – I cannot see myself do long epic rides on a bike that has a 22” TT. Maybe if I wasn’t doing much climbing, but the 6Point is designed to be pedaled up the mountain.
so in short...I "assume" the 19" is what I need. The Wheelbase is a bit longer than my MkIII but pretty much on par with my 7Point - should make for a super stable bike on those fast fun descents, which is what I will be seeking on this bike!
Luc.
I am also 5-10 and like to run shortish stems as well. The 17" 6 point felt on the small side to me after ripping it around the neighborhood for a few. I would also opt for the 19.
Luc.
I am also 5-10 and like to run shortish stems as well. The 17" 6 point felt on the small side to me after ripping it around the neighborhood for a few. I would also opt for the 19.
I'm confused, GO-Ride has 6 point TT 23" for size 17 & 24" for the 19.
I am also 5' 10" and no IH dealer around so I will have to purchase online & get sizing right.
I'm confused, GO-Ride has 6 point TT 23" for size 17 & 24" for the 19.
I am also 5' 10" and no IH dealer around so I will have to purchase online & get sizing right.
that is with a layback post...here is the breakdown:
As far as fit goes, I'm 5'9" on a 17". I have longish legs and shortish arms, so it works well. As dw has mentioned, the seat angle is steep, so the set-back post keeps the ergonomics correct when seated - out of the saddle it feels like a bike with a 23" TT.
I’m 5’10” and like to run a short stems on all my bikes (e.g. between 55 and 65 – but my DH has a 45).
My 7Point is indeed a 17”, but it has a 23” Effective TT (with a 55mm stem)
My Sunday has a 23.5 Effective TT (and that’s a DH bike)
My MkIII has a 23.25 Effective TT (with a 65mm stem)
See the pattern? I like effective TT’s that are about 23”. The 19” 6Point offers a 23” TT without the setback seatpost, which I won’t be running. The 17” is 22” – I cannot see myself do long epic rides on a bike that has a 22” TT. Maybe if I wasn’t doing much climbing, but the 6Point is designed to be pedaled up the mountain.
so in short...I "assume" the 19" is what I need. The Wheelbase is a bit longer than my MkIII but pretty much on par with my 7Point - should make for a super stable bike on those fast fun descents, which is what I will be seeking on this bike!
Thanks for that. I had been wondering about the Eff. TT measurement and seatpost angle with the layback post.
As far as fit goes, I'm 5'9" on a 17". I have longish legs and shortish arms, so it works well. As dw has mentioned, the seat angle is steep, so the set-back post keeps the ergonomics correct when seated - out of the saddle it feels like a bike with a 23" TT.
that's what i was thinking. i'm 5'9" and went for the 17". steep forward seat angle will be good for climbs, but when standing i bet it feels just right.
I'm confused, GO-Ride has 6 point TT 23" for size 17 & 24" for the 19.
I am also 5' 10" and no IH dealer around so I will have to purchase online & get sizing right.
The effective TT does not change by the full setback amount(25mm):
Originally Posted by dw
Approx 10mm less on the virtual TT. You can slide your seat back to compensate no problem. I run a straight post on mine with the seat back.
Hi was wondering if the 6point8 can be built up to handle a bit more trail-ish rides? Like using XTR parts and stuff to lower the weight so that climbing is not too much of a ***** without compromising the downs.
Hi was wondering if the 6point8 can be built up to handle a bit more trail-ish rides? Like using XTR parts and stuff to lower the weight so that climbing is not too much of a ***** without compromising the downs.
The 6point8 is built up with pretty light stuff as is - SRAM X-0 shifters and rear derailleur, Juicy Carbon brakes, DT EX1750 wheels. You could run XTR shifters and rear derailleur as well as brakes, but I don't think it would make a noticeable difference. That is pretty much all you could swap to XTR - the cranks, rear hub, front derailleur are not compatible.
The Path has em'...the owner and one of the employee's each have one (albeit with slightly altered specs). I rode one of the employee's 17" 6point8's today (with a Totem)...very impressive. The rear end feels GREAT I was actually considering what organs I could sell to pay for the frame. I'm 5'11" and would get a 19" (depending an which kidney I decide to pawn).
I know the rear end is a 150mm spacing, but what type of attachment does it use? is it a through axle or a super long 150mm skewer type quick release version? Can you possibly get a pic of that 6.8 with the totem
We have 6.6 and 6.8 bikes in stock now. We would be glad to sell you just the frame.
Indeed they do (and are). Picked this up last night.
Still have a bit of work to do (new rear brake line, cut steerer, der. cables, etc). I'll probably end up switching to a coil shock, but for now does anyone have a recommendation for where to start with the shock pressures? I'm around 170lb with gear.
Indeed they do (and are). Picked this up last night.
Still have a bit of work to do (new rear brake line, cut steerer, der. cables, etc). I'll probably end up switching to a coil shock, but for now does anyone have a recommendation for where to start with the shock pressures? I'm around 170lb with gear.
Nice! Man that looks good.
I run about 125 lbs in the boost valve and about 10 lbs under riding weight in the main chamber. Start there and check your sag. Have fun!
Indeed they do (and are). Picked this up last night.
Still have a bit of work to do (new rear brake line, cut steerer, der. cables, etc). I'll probably end up switching to a coil shock, but for now does anyone have a recommendation for where to start with the shock pressures? I'm around 170lb with gear.
WOW!! that looks sick!
The shop you got it at let you pic all those bits for it?
The Path got their shipment of large (19”) 6Points in yesterday. They got busy building them at the end of the day.
One nice improvement I noticed was a guide for the rear derailleur housing as it passes by the bottom bracket. I wish I would have had my camera with me, but you no longer need to zip tie the housing to the upright bar on the rear triangle. (As was the case on the 05 7Point series to avoid damage from the chain and/or rings.)
Nice little improvement. (2 year cycle in full effect.)
"I hope your gravity droppers all seize up....BASTIDS." - Aquaholic
The Path got their shipment of large (19”) 6Points in yesterday. They got busy building them at the end of the day.
One nice improvement I noticed was a guide for the rear derailleur housing as it passes by the bottom bracket. I wish I would have had my camera with me, but you no longer need to zip tie the housing to the upright bar on the rear triangle. (As was the case on the 05 7Point series to avoid damage from the chain and/or rings.)
Nice little improvement. (2 year cycle in full effect.)
100 percent agree. I think that little noodle for the cable is one of the nicest features on the frame. I also really like the design of the new rocker arms on all the 07 bikes. The way they contour the frame is so sweet.
100 percent agree. I think that little noodle for the cable is one of the nicest features on the frame. I also really like the design of the new rocker arms on all the 07 bikes. The way they contour the frame is so sweet.
Greg
+ 2...
I also really like the attention to the little details and the lower link cable guide/stop is also one of the first things I noticed!!
Indeed they do (and are). Picked this up last night.
Still have a bit of work to do (new rear brake line, cut steerer, der. cables, etc). I'll probably end up switching to a coil shock, but for now does anyone have a recommendation for where to start with the shock pressures? I'm around 170lb with gear.
Well here is my 6point. A lowly 6point4, but i have taken a few bits off my old beast to personalize it. Yes i know everyone hates Shermans, but mine has been wonderful & they were better than the forks it came with. I have yet to give her a good run & tickle the setup. But the few first rides have been nothing short of wicked. Light but solid, quick & nimble.
Can someone from IH confirm the dual crown-warranty issue. I can't find it anywhere on the site or in the box that my bike came with.
Also can some one school me in, the whole leverage dual vs single crown issue.
The bike came with a 160mm SC with a 550mm axel to crown. i have added a 170mm Sherman with a 535mm axel to crown. I know that there is added strength with the top crown, but can some one tell me why a short DC fork is worse than the longer SC.
that 'Effective Top Tube' stuff from the Iron Horse site. They say it's with a 25mm layback post... surely that adds another inch?! Especially as other manufacturers only treat it as the horizontal distance between the Head tube and seat tube.
6 Points are pretty good for slopestyle once you get used to them. The suspension on DW-Link bikes runs softer (low compression) than most bikes so they tend to soak up and smooth out the ride more than most bikes. I found my 6Point felt very close to my 7Point in that it is great for bigger sized jumps and for tearing through rock gardens, but for bouncing off of kickers it still felt a little on the soft side compared to my MKIII.
Right now I'm riding (testing) out a Bottle Rocket and I must admit this bike is amazing for jumping and throwing around. I can bounce off stumps and rocks with it much easier. I attribute this to geometry and tighter suspension. With that said, once I hit rock gardens or chatter the bike becomes a pogo stick, and this is where the DW-Link shines.
Slopestyle bikes generally work best when the suspension is firm to get maximum boost and control off of jumps. I think Iron Horse should make a 4.5-5" slopestyle bike with slack geometry. My intuition says that they are already on it. They had something close to it a while ago with there Hollowpoint 4X bike. I would say that the MKIII with a shorter stem and the headangle slackener would be a little better for true "slopestyle". For throwing down the 15' foot ladder drops the 7 Point is your bike.
6 Points are pretty good for slopestyle once you get used to them. The suspension on DW-Link bikes runs softer (low compression) than most bikes so they tend to soak up and smooth out the ride more than most bikes. I found my 6Point felt very close to my 7Point in that it is great for bigger sized jumps and for tearing through rock gardens, but for bouncing off of kickers it still felt a little on the soft side compared to my MKIII.
Right now I'm riding (testing) out a Bottle Rocket and I must admit this bike is amazing for jumping and throwing around. I can bounce off stumps and rocks with it much easier. I attribute this to geometry and tighter suspension. With that said, once I hit rock gardens or chatter the bike becomes a pogo stick, and this is where the DW-Link shines.
Slopestyle bikes generally work best when the suspension is firm to get maximum boost and control off of jumps. I think Iron Horse should make a 4.5-5" slopestyle bike with slack geometry. My intuition says that they are already on it. They had something close to it a while ago with there Hollowpoint 4X bike. I would say that the MKIII with a shorter stem and the headangle slackener would be a little better for true "slopestyle". For throwing down the 15' foot ladder drops the 7 Point is your bike.
That's some good fo' Dirt. I now ride the 6point, had a 7point. And my wife rides the MK3.
The 6point has been doing pretty well even though I think it is real cramped when I drop the seat low. Not that I am sitting much while descending but when I am DH'ing I'll keep the seat low and I am practically sitting on the back of the seat. And my seat is all the way back. I am 5'8" and bought a 17" frame. I wish I could've tried a 19" frame.
As for the slopestyle bike, That's a good idea. I want a bike that has slacker geometry for my wife but not the weight of the 6point. She doesn't need lots of travel either. Just a slacker HA than the MK3 currently has. Somewhere near 67.5 deg. A dw-link bottle-rocket with the weight of the MOJO would be nice!
Hello?, I just got my 6.8 frame. It's a 15" one. It looks nice. My only worry is that the rocker link (not sure if it is the right term for it) will hit the seatpost clamp on its full travel. They look so close each other. Anyone ride 15" 6.8??, or hopefully Mr. DW can explain this? Appreciate it !.
I think Iron Horse should make a 4.5-5" slopestyle bike with slack geometry. My intuition says that they are already on it. They had something close to it a while ago with there Hollowpoint 4X bike.
I hope you're right, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I don't honestly need 6" to ride front range Denver trails, but I do like slack and low. I'm currently trail riding a lowered gemini, but I know the rear suspension could be more effective. I'd thought about an mkiii with headtube slackener/ longer fork, but don't want the bb to get too high, and I also want a bike I can 4x/dj on without worrying about breaking it. A short travel 6 point seems like it would be pretty close...
39.6 pounds. Thats with a 66SL, a Maxxis Mobster 2.7 front tire (1320g), Panaracer fire FR 2.4 rear (870g), Very heavy platform clipless pedals. DT Swiss 6.1 rims with OEM hubs. Marzocchi ROCO TST with Ti coil. FSA gap crankset.
I'd weigh it again.
I'd have to guess that your components are less burly than mine. My front tire weighs a pound heavier than the back tire and I have heavy duty tubes in the tires. They can add over a pound easily. I am running a coil shock albeit Ti. My Shimano 645 dx pedals weigh over a pound. My DT swiss 6.1 rims are heavy (620g/1.36lbs each). Fork is only .5lbs lighter than a 66RC2X so not a huge gain for you there. I run a 83mm heavy crankset and my rear hub is 150mm x 12mm.
I researched frame weights and it looks like the Reign X frame is the same or heavier than the 6point8 frame.
So you must have a much lighter parts spec than mine. The 6point8 stock build from IH weighs 34.3 pounds, add the 1 pound the 66RC2 adds and that would be 35.3lbs.
All my parts except fork and shock came off of a 06' 7point5.
So I could definitely lower the weight alot but the coil shock rules and I am happy to have the dual-ply tire on the front.
As I replace broken/wornout parts I will lighten up some things but I doubt I will ever get below 38lbs. Heavyduty tubes/tires are just too important for the terrain I ride.
Edit; I think I figured it out. It must be the extra .3 inches of travel I have.
Or the LBS' scale was wrong but it feels like 40lbs.
Here's another riders Reign X setup and weight from RideMonkey:
2007 Giant Reign X review
So I’ve been on this thing for about a month now, and figured it was time to give a review. Still need to ride it in a few more places to get a full feel for it, and need to get the suspension dialed a bit better.
Spec:
Reign X frame 18” (built up from frameset only)
Marz ’06 66 sl @170mm
DHX 3.0 coil
Azonic Headlock
Bontrager Earl wheelset
Planet X Stem
Easton EA70 bars 685mm
Lizard Skins lock on grips
Sram x.7 shifters
Sram x.7 rear derailleur
Deore front derailleur
Avid Juicy 5 brakes
Giant internal headset
Truvativ Holzfeller crankset
Truvativ Howitzer BB
Crank Bros Mallet C pedals
E.13 DRS
WTB Speed V seat
Bontrager Select seatpost
Shimano crap cassette
Hutchinson Barracuda 2.3 front tire
Hutchinson Piranha 2.3 rear tire
Misc Measurements:
Frame weight: 9.0 Lbs exactly with shock (no headset)
BB height: 13.8"
Wheelbase: almost 45.5" exactly
Air shocks and AM build vs. coil shock and FR build seems to equate to about 4lbs on these bikes. it's funny, your fr version 6points and Reign X's are heavier than my DH bike!
Actually, i'd really love to have a spare longer stroke CCDB and Totem, for some rides that would be the sick setup, 13.8 bb, 7 inches of travel....
after reading through this whole post and drooling over the pictures i cant wait to get out and ride!! off to Boyne highlands labor day weekend on the 06 7POINT5 but so very VERY tempted to sell it and stump for a 6point............
would be a better bike for trails especially if the 6POINT8 is 34.3#s anyone know what a stock 6point4 is?
39.6 pounds. Thats with a 66SL, a Maxxis Mobster 2.7 front tire (1320g), Panaracer fire FR 2.4 rear (870g), Very heavy platform clipless pedals. DT Swiss 6.1 rims with OEM hubs. Marzocchi ROCO TST with Ti coil. FSA gap crankset.
PDR_0055.JPGHeres my new 6point. Almost the way I want it... I have a stinger to put on and I want to swap the wheels to lighten it up some more...I guess its around 34.5lbs with the upgrades I have done... Any suggetions on a wheelset and a lighter 12mm axle???
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And its first on-trail action, on Chiquito, courtesy of Winston:
It's super plush w/ a Totem up front and a pushed DHX (loaner from the shop while my Roco TST is on order), and pedals *really* well for a ~39 pound bike.
Already has a few bumps & bruises on it, but none on me! The only fall I took was blamed on my Sidis and wet rocks while trying to get into position to take some pictures. :)
Great setup and the geo looks absolutely perfect !
How does the old school Fox RC work on it ? I have one as well but I need to get the right spring for it. Any pedal smacking with the BB being that low ?
I got my 6point4 right after Christmas, its awesome! I swaped out the forks w/ my old Domains, ordered a DHX 5.0 (w/2.75" stroke) for the rear, then swaped out a few other parts from my old bike. I'll post some pics up as soon as my shock comes in.
hey BLABLABLA sick setup. I got one of those extenders too,still don't know if I need to use it or not, but was wondering what did you use to remove the internal bottom headset cup?
XT cassette
Hutchinson Barracuda lite tires 2.35 + Light tubes (for trail)
Marzochhi 55 TST
Wellgo Magnesium pedals
Gravity lite crank arms
FSA isis BB
Husselfelt stem and bars
SDG seat and Post
Enduro Headset extender
....Awaiting a stinger dual chain guide
I also modified the DHX-air on my 6point by adding plastic inside the outer sleeve to take up the extra air space. Here is the link to the modification: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=182747 The shock has way more mid stroke support now and doesn't blow through the travel anymore. This should help greatly with pedal smacking. I did this to my Bottle Rocket last year to help with bottom resistance and it worked amazingly well. The difference in the shock is much more noticable on the 6 Point DHX though because the outer air sleeve on the 6 point is much larger than the Bottle rocket DHX air sleeve as shown in the first picture. I should be able to get some rides in tommorow to test it out some more. The snow is just starting to melt !
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Well here it is almost done, awaiting a chain guide and a few other bits, but pretty much done. The sale RS Cycle had on the 6.4s seems to have prompted a few last minute purchases.
TZ - is that a Totem on your 6point. How does the bike feel in terms of head angle. I have mine with the 2007 RC2X 180mm and still feels like it could be a little slacker, so I am considering the externalizer headset option. How are you finding the E540s holding up. I am in the process of getting another rear wheel built up, likely a hadley hub on either a 721 or Syncros DS28.
Do you find any clearance issues with using the 2,75" stroke shock?
Very nice bike
Like Winston said-no issues. Even DW mentioned in another thread that it was ok. The rear triangle is basically the same as the 7point. With that in mind the, 6point is the burliest bike for it weight(well in my opinion).
Like Winston said-no issues. Even DW mentioned in another thread that it was ok. The rear triangle is basically the same as the 7point. With that in mind the, 6point is the burliest bike for it weight(well in my opinion).
Sounds good, thanks.
I'm kinda pleased with my setup as it is, pictured furter up in this thread somewhere, but the curiossity of change always lurkes in background. For trail riding I find my current setup close to perfect, but would like to slacken the hta for gravity riding.
Have been thinking about getting a 8,5x2,5" shock to slacken the front a bit, but got curios about that 8,75x2,75" combined with a Enduro extender setup too. Well, we'll se.. First of all this white stuff on the ground needs to go away.
I bought the bike on closeout and just used the frame.
Fox Van RC2 fork
Old school Van RC rear shock 8.5x2.5
Juicy's
Headset extender from enduro. (Thanks to those who mentioned this.)
The headset extender and the 8.5 rear shock give the bike a 66.5 HA and a 13" B.B. height.
Geo feels great to me. I never tried it stock.
A few of us arounf the shop have been thinking about trying an 8.5 by 2.5. We want that lower slacker geo. Any feedback on how the suspension feels? DW, any comment on how it afects the progression rate?
[QUOTEI'm kinda pleased with my setup as it is, pictured furter up in this thread somewhere, but the curiossity of change always lurkes in background. For trail riding I find my current setup close to perfect, but would like to slacken the hta for gravity riding.
Have been thinking about getting a 8,5x2,5" shock to slacken the front a bit, but got curios about that 8,75x2,75" combined with a Enduro extender setup too.][/QUOTE]
I agree, my set up feels great, but I also wouldn't mind having a little more slack for the DH. Right now its not bothering me too much. I've thought about the extender(I even bought one) but I haven put it on yet. I just didn't want go through the work of removing the bottom internal cup, because you can achieve the same angle with just a 180mm fork (which I plan on getting, some time)
As for the 8.5" shock, I would really think about it. The BB is already pretty low, my pedals seem to hit random rocks every now and again (but not a super big deal). The 8.5" would slacken it a bit, w/ an even lower BB. But then again, if that was an issue you could just get a shorter crank set. In my opinion the winning combo is still the 2.75” stroke shock with a 180mm up front = added travel, slacker HA, and a slightly higher BB. Anyways...good luck
A few of us arounf the shop have been thinking about trying an 8.5 by 2.5. We want that lower slacker geo. Any feedback on how the suspension feels? DW, any comment on how it afects the progression rate?
Thanks
I ran a short shock on my old 7 point too.
My feeling is the suspension operates with a little more chain growth. And a little more anti squat. I don't mind it at all. Might be noticeable in the granny gear but I don't use one. I think it might have a little less small bump compliance as well. Bottom out feels the same. Real smooth. I'm curious what DW would say as well.
Its so much better with the slack and low geo for my purposes..
anybody have an idea of how much an 8.5" shock slacks out the head angle? based on blah's numbers, seems like maybe about 1/2 deg? maybe a whole degree, considering the a2c on the Fox fork may be less than the stock Marzocchi on the 6.4.
OK, so gentlemen, here is the question. I am building up a 07 6.4 frame from the ground up, first thing I did was order a 5.0 air to replace the 3 because I wanted the propedal. I have the build pretty much already purchased, other than the fork.
I am trying to decided between these.
-RS Lyrik Solo Air
-Fox Van 36
-Fox Float 36
I weigh around around 230 w/ gear at the moment and I run a Fox 40 on the Sunday so I am somewhat partial to fox since they have always taken good care of me. But the Lyrik interests me because all of the praise I hear, but I have never touched one.
So... What are your thoughts?
My build as follows:
07 IH 6.4
08 Fox DHX 5 Air
Fork ?????
Saint Cranks w/ E.13 DRS
XO Shifters
X9 rear mech
XTR Front
Sunline Bars
Thomson Stem
Thomson Post
Hadley hubs on 819 or 823s
Avid Codes
Maxxis Rubber
It's not going to be lite, but neither is the rider
Well, first and foremost, outside of saving 0.0000012 of a pound on the X-O and spending more than twice as much, I'd tell you to go with X-9 shifters. I love mine and they feel the same. They're basically last years' X-9 just without carbon fiber.
Go with an XT or X9 front deraileur, too. Again, you're just paying too much for a difference that you'll never notice.
As far as forks, go with someone coil That's just me. I love my Fox rear suspension, but I TRULY love my Rock Shox from suspension. I've got a Totem on my big bike, and a Pike on the other bike (7point and . The Lyric is an awesome fork, but I've yet to ride it. If it's half as good as my Totem and my Pike, I'd still be in love with it. I'm sold on Rock Shox. BUT... I'd really recommend going with a Coil fork for someone of your weight. Have you had issues with Fox or any other brand and running an air-sprung shock/fork in the past?
I already have the shifters, and I can pick up the front D for around 40 bones, so thats why I listed those.
I got to spend some time on a Totem solo air, and didn't have any problems, also spent a few runs in angelfire on a boxxer world cup and although it was not as smooth as a coil because of the psi I had to run for the right amount of sag, it held up great and I liked it's responsiveness.
I can pick up an 08 Float 36 cheaper than I can pick up a vanilla at the moment, that's why the float is in the equation.
So I finally got the bike built up, after coming from a Sunday all I can say is the dw link is still where it's at as far as I'm concerned. Only thing I am going to change in the near future is swapping out the dhx for a rocco coil when it gets here this week and also a new Thomson post.
My build as follows:
07 IH 6.4
08 Rocco Coil
Fork Marz 55
Saint Cranks w/ Gamut p40
XO Shifter
X9 rear mech
Control Tech Bars
Thomson Stem
Thomson Post
Hadley hubs on Syncros FR's
Avid Codes
Kona Wah Wah Pedals
Maxxis Rubber
Just ordered up a closeout 2007 6Point4! 15" size. Swapping most of my stuff from my 07 Preston frame (just haven't been able to get used to the feel of that bike) other than keeping the BB/crank/rear wheel setup.
Juicy brakes, SRAM drive bits, Thomson stem/Sunline bar, Gravity Dropper post, Hope Bulb 20mm front wheel; can't wait!
66ATA up front ought to give me just shy of 67 degrees, and could even go slacker with the RWC lower headset external cup. Don't think I'll want to , but it's a nice option to have. I'm no big hucker/jumper, just like slack bikes!
Then all the parts get swapped onto the Preston for sale. Win-win for me!
Just ordered up a closeout 2007 6Point4! 15" size. Swapping most of my stuff from my 07 Preston frame (just haven't been able to get used to the feel of that bike) other than keeping the BB/crank/rear wheel setup.
Juicy brakes, SRAM drive bits, Thomson stem/Sunline bar, Gravity Dropper post, Hope Bulb 20mm front wheel; can't wait!
66ATA up front ought to give me just shy of 67 degrees, and could even go slacker with the RWC lower headset external cup. Don't think I'll want to , but it's a nice option to have. I'm no big hucker/jumper, just like slack bikes!
Then all the parts get swapped onto the Preston for sale. Win-win for me!
please enlighten me. sounds like just what i want to do!
Okay finally got the new wheels built. I normally wouldn't worry about matching things up on the bike like hub color but since I ended up with a red Hadley on the back, I wanted to find a good quality red hub for the front. It took a while but finally managed to get a decent deal on a Chris King.
I may have saved a little weight over the stock wheels, but I hopefully have a much strong wheelset now in place.
I also manage to snag an excellent deal on a set of new Juicy 7's to replace the older ones.
Last little add-on what a chain guide to keep things quieter and hopefully avoid any ill timed chain drops. Okay here goes with the pics.
and some pics taken, although my photo skills are not great, here goes.
Now stop the blasphemy and get a stem that doesn't say KONA on it.
J/k.
Okay I'm busted. For what every reason that old stem just keeps making its way from bike to bike. I did have a nice stem before the fugly KONA one, however the threads stripped out when tightening onto the steerer tube. I ended up stopping by my LBS and they had it for $5 or $10 in the parts bin.
The old stem may look ugly and weighs a ton but it has worked, but I guess this bike really deserves something better looking. I can always keep the old one as a spare ...
Haha... glad you didn't take me seriously. The bike is a beaut, that's for sure.
I have a few misc. parts that have made the transfer between bikes. The BB on my '05 7point was installed on the bike in mid-2006 when I bought it. But it came from a 2004 Iron Horse SGS Pro. It's destroyed, and sounds like someone chewing gravel when I pedal, but it works, and that's all that matters. :-)
It looks great ! I love the way that ROCO looks against the black of the frame and those wheels should be indestructable.
I'm absolutely loving my 6Point after modifying the shock canister )air curve) on my DHX air. I haven't had any pedal smacks since and the bike rides WAY better overall.
How do you like the Marz ROCO air ?
By the way, I highly recommend the headset by Enduro, it makes my ride feel dialed my Marz 55TST fork.
It looks great ! I love the way that ROCO looks against the black of the frame and those wheels should be indestructable.
I'm absolutely loving my 6Point after modifying the shock canister )air curve) on my DHX air. I haven't had any pedal smacks since and the bike rides WAY better overall.
How do you like the Marz ROCO air ?
By the way, I highly recommend the headset by Enduro, it makes my ride feel dialed my Marz 55TST fork.
DirtDiggler,
The ROCO air feels very nice, seems to perfectly balance the 66 RC2X. You feel the ramp up at end of stroke but it does not feel harsh in any way. On the slower techincal trails I would say it at least equals or perhaps even better then the DHX-C I had on my Nomad. I need to hit up some faster trails to see how the high speed setup on the shock is. Haven't had enough rides to attest for its longevity, or all ride conditions but so far (fingers crossed) so good.
At least for now I am holding off onthe Enduro headset externalizer. I seem to have found the balance point for the bike, so I don't notice the head angle any more. I would guess your setup with the 55 and the Enduro and mine with the 66 should be pretty close in terms of head angle. The 2007 66 (180mm) is 565 A2C any idea on the 55.
I have a new IH convertee. A buddy of mine just bought a small 6Point6 frame and will transfer all the parts off his old Gemini. If it works out he will only require a fork, stem, seatpost, maybe bottom bracket as well.
Hi,
Iam looking for a 6 Point Frame in Medium, does anyone of you know, where to buy the frame?
Does anyone of you sell the Frame?
Thanks Kirsten
Hi,
We have a 2008 6.6 17 inch in stock at The Path. We will usually take the parts off our complete bikes and sell you just the frame if you like, and this would not be a problem in this case. We also have a medium 2008 6.4.
I did quite a bit of searching to locate one, I only found one source online...a small shop in New York and I live in Portland OR, seems like most of the 07's are gone in 17". I found a 6.8 for 3k, but it was the only one! The 6.8 isn't available in 08 either
I found a stem to replace the old one that looks a little better, cut the steerer tube down a little and lowered the bar height. The last change is a Manitou Evolver ISX-6 air shock.
Only one ride in very marginal conditions so not too much to report. I does seem to ride very nice helps the rear tire stay on the ground, didn't get in much for jumps/drops so no comment as yet. Might not be quite as plush as the Roco Air TST but haven't had much time for testing with the various air pressures.
On the ISX-6, it does take a little while to break in. I'd also suggest trying 50 psi in the IFP chamber to see if that helps, especially during break-in.
I stopped driving my bike into my garage - I'm now protected with Roof Rack Ranger app for my iPhone.
6.6 spotted in Aliso Woods. Thanks to thephat for an awesome deal
What's your 6 point weigh as shown? I am considering doing the same. Taking parts off of my 7 point and building a 6 point with a Totem solo air.
Thanks
What's your 6 point weigh as shown? I am considering doing the same. Taking parts off of my 7 point and building a 6 point with a Totem solo air.
Thanks
Don't know for sure but my guess would be 36# with the Totem Coil. Frame with DHXa weighed in at 8.5#.
I will weigh and post back. It does feel/ride heavy with a DH specific front tire.
Last edited by SCUBAPRO; 05-07-2008 at 04:15 PM.
"The best you've ridden is the best you know" - Paul Thede, Race Tech
Scuba, Care to compare the 6-Pack to the new 6-Point?
Can't do a comprehensive review as of yet; need to dial in the 6Point and spend more time riding it.
Here are my observations so far:
CLIMBING: The 6Point is a bit harder to climb but that is likely because it is 3lbs heavier and 1.5lbs of that is in the front tire. On techy/rocky climbs, they both climb as good though I'd pick the Pack for that due to slightly higher BB (less pedal strikes). The rear of the 6Point does stiffen up a bit under power but not enough to make it harsh as compared to my Pack where it remains fully active and would sometimes dive when going over a dip even under power.
DROPS: they both feel the same.
BRAKING: Braking in rough, the Six Pack has slight advantage as the rear feels more active; I can more easily lock up the rear on the 6Point indicating a slightly less active rear end while on the brakes.
SQUARE EDGE: The 6Point does take on square edge hits better (does not hang up on square edge-high speed hits). I did notice a little pedal feedback on sharp edge rocks but very minimal: proabbly just as much as my Pack or dare I say a tiny bit less.
CORNERING: 6 Point slightly better probably due to lower BB (it currently sits at 13.75BB - shock is 1/8 shorter; my pack sits at 14.1BB).
Last edited by SCUBAPRO; 05-15-2008 at 02:52 PM.
"The best you've ridden is the best you know" - Paul Thede, Race Tech
How does it feel with the geo of the 2.5 shock? Low and slack is very appealing! Are you still selling a 19" 6point frame??
Thanks
The shock in the picture is just shy of 8.75 i2i which lowered the BB back to stock and slackened the angles a bit. According to my cheap angle finder, the current SA is 72.5 and HA is 67.5. Those numbers are pretty close to my 6Pack with SA of 72 and HA of 67. So it's no surprise they ride very similar.
I have ridden a 6Point with an 8.5x2.5 shock & Lyrik up front; BB sits at 13.6, HA I think was around 67*. I really liked this slack and low version of the 6Point on downhill and corners; a bit tricky on rocky climbs (gotta watch those pedals) but very nice overall. You can actually achieve the same effective BB if you run 35% sag on an 8.75x.2.75 shock and get the benefit of longer travel.
The Large frame is on its way to its new owner.
"The best you've ridden is the best you know" - Paul Thede, Race Tech
Rideitall - What made you switch to the ISX? Just trying it out? Which shock are you liking more? I used a Swinger 4-way air on my 7Point for a few months and loved it but ended up selling the bike. So far my modified DHX-air is working pretty well on my 6 Point. I have the outer canister filled with plastic so it ramps up super quick and feels more like a small-can fox float. The ROCO air has been very tempting though...
Just picked up an 07 6 point 8 frameset (half price )
Just built it up and taken it for a quick blast - Amazing. Truly amazing. Climbs like a hardtail and has to be the best bike I've ridden down hill by a long way. That's without adjusting the stock shock settings.
Its pretty heavy though ! more than I thought but stupidly heavy bb/cranks and a 66rcx on the front.
Can anyone suggest a 30.0 seatpost with layback, can't seem to find one.
Ta
Rideitall - What made you switch to the ISX? Just trying it out? Which shock are you liking more? I used a Swinger 4-way air on my 7Point for a few months and loved it but ended up selling the bike. So far my modified DHX-air is working pretty well on my 6 Point. I have the outer canister filled with plastic so it ramps up super quick and feels more like a small-can fox float. The ROCO air has been very tempting though...
DirtDiggler
I still have the Roco TST and picked up an ISX to try it out (self confessed gear pig). The ISX does ride a little higher in the travel, ramps up very well and controlled. I might need to send the shock back to Manitou as I don't think the low speed compression is doing much (no real change from full open to full closed).
The Roco TST Air might be a touch plusher on the full on high speed but both work extremely well. The adjustments on the ISX are more involved (6 way) vs the Roco TST R, in which the TST lever adjusts the compression (low speed only I believe). I would take either of them over the DHX-C.
I haven't had too much time on the big bike as I have been riding my trail bike to get into shape, and have been working too much as well.
In the next few weeks I hope to get lots more riding time and perhaps can comment further.
Sweet build Kirsten!! Are you all Iron Horse now?
Allan
Thanks Allan,
no I own a steppenwolf twixter 4x hardtail as well:-)
My 6 is not ready weight is very high with the dh tire/wheelset. 16.5 kg
Front derailleur and wheels will be changed.
I've also tuned the dhx air with a plastic shim inside the outter air sleeve. I hope to get the missing parts today, so I could do some riding this weekend.
By the way: For those of you who ride a e13 drs guid, how many spacers do you have on the drive site between bb and frame?
Cheers Da_KillerK
Last edited by da_killerk; 05-15-2008 at 02:18 AM.
Very nice 6 Point for sure, I love that color! Good thinking on filling the outer sleeve too. I have mine totally filled with plastic and it makes a HUGE difference...especially the mid stroke. It sort of feels like having a FOX AVA sleeve on the shock. Your going to love the bike, it just gets better each time you ride it.
I've also tuned the dhx air with a plastic shim inside the outter air sleeve. I hope to get the missing parts today, so I could do some riding this weekend.
By the way: For those of you who ride a e13 drs guid, how many spacers do you have on the drive site between bb and frame?
You can achieve the same thing by switching to the small RP23 canister. But the large canister seems to work really well on that frame.
I DO NOT have any spacers on the drive side. I use one spacer on the non-drive side.
"The best you've ridden is the best you know" - Paul Thede, Race Tech
Yeah, RP23 small can air sleeve works awesome. I had that setup on my Bottle Rocket and loved it. Do they make a small RP23 sleeve in 8.75" X 2.5" ?
Filling the outer sleeve really makes a difference on this bike. I used to slam my pedals on rocks with the stock setup, now it ramps up higher in the travel and I can drop the air pressure way down. The result is better small bump compliance without blowing through the travel, and less pedal smackage.
Last edited by DirtDiggler; 05-26-2008 at 08:11 PM.
Nice! I'm glad your trying that shock, that was high up on my list of shocks so I would love to hear more when you get some good rides in on it. I managed to find a brand new old school Vanilla RC for $50.00 that I'm going to be trying on this ride soon. It should be a pogo stick but tons of fun.
Originally Posted by rideitall
DirtDiggler
I still have the Roco TST and picked up an ISX to try it out (self confessed gear pig). The ISX does ride a little higher in the travel, ramps up very well and controlled. I might need to send the shock back to Manitou as I don't think the low speed compression is doing much (no real change from full open to full closed).
The Roco TST Air might be a touch plusher on the full on high speed but both work extremely well. The adjustments on the ISX are more involved (6 way) vs the Roco TST R, in which the TST lever adjusts the compression (low speed only I believe). I would take either of them over the DHX-C.
I haven't had too much time on the big bike as I have been riding my trail bike to get into shape, and have been working too much as well.
In the next few weeks I hope to get lots more riding time and perhaps can comment further.
Nice! I'm glad your trying that shock, that was high up on my list of shocks so I would love to hear more when you get some good rides in on it. I managed to find a brand new old school Vanilla RC for $50.00 that I'm going to be trying on this ride soon. It should be a pogo stick but tons of fun.
you'd be surprised how good a shox with no adjustments feels on the DW linkage. I was worried when I switched to my ROCO RC. It feels load better than my Air shox with lockout and floodgate.
i just bought a 07 6point4 for half the price and i've already ride it! It looks really reallyyyyyyyy promising! I'm not posting any pics cos it is not changed from the original specs. I love this bike! There is only one thing that bothers me and it is the fork (marz all mountain 4). Maybe i will change it in the future, cos i like the top regulations :P
Is it rude to install a double crown fork in a 6point? I mean, i've already seen pictures of guys putting them in their 6point bikes, but is it really confortable for the rider and bike geometry?
I wouldnt be to worried about sheering off the headtube. Who cares about the warranty.
If I break my 7point I already know that IH isnt going to do sh!t to replace it. I've come to realize that and now accept it. (It makes beating on it alot easier)
Mabye s 888RC 7" version. Unless you have already done with 7" conversion for the rear, them why not. Slap on the 8" DC.
I wouldnt be to worried about sheering off the headtube. Who cares about the warranty.
If I break my 7point I already know that IH isnt going to do sh!t to replace it. I've come to realize that and now accept it. (It makes beating on it alot easier)
Mabye s 888RC 7" version. Unless you have already done with 7" conversion for the rear, them why not. Slap on the 8" DC.
So I should just consider the fact that IH sent me a brand new frame when i found a crack on the downtube a fluke. They actually sent me the frame before I sent them mine so I could keep riding. And they let me change the size of the frame. I received my new frame in about a week. Damn Ironhorse!
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Originally Posted by bikerx40
Can't wait!
WOW!! that looks sick! 
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