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    2007 XCL Spy Shots..

    2007 XCL...we added a brace..I began building her up yesterday. I put carbon FSA cranks on, will run a SRAM drivetrain, and 07 Talas RLC. Will likely begin test riding today or tommorrow.
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    did you guys feel it was a weak point with just the gusset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardway
    did you guys feel it was a weak point with just the gusset?
    the longer seat tube allows for more seat post extension..fitting a wider range of riders..
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    Can the XCL handle a '05 36 talas? ( 150 mm travel )

    Just wondering. Seems like its beefy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moment
    Can the XCL handle a '05 36 talas? ( 150 mm travel )

    Just wondering. Seems like its beefy enough.
    It can definitely handle the all mountain style riding you would do with a 36..but the geometry would be affected with that fork's ac length..
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    Does it have more travel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duke777
    Does it have more travel?
    The travel and the geometry are the same.

    One thing to note - and this is quite important - the travel on the XCL is the actual travel of the bike and not a "claimed travel."

    After testing a number of other very popular "5 inch" travel bikes, it became clear that not a single one of them actually achieved their claimed travel. In fact, some of them produced no more than 3.5" of actual wheel travel.

    I'm not about to throw any other manufacturer under the bus here so please don't ask of which bike I'm speaking. Suffice it to say that if you do the measurements yourself on some of the most popular "5 inch " bikes on the market, you'll find that they come up severely lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CranxOC
    The travel and the geometry are the same.

    One thing to note - and this is quite important - the travel on the XCL is the actual travel of the bike and not a "claimed travel."

    After testing a number of other very popular "5 inch" travel bikes, it became clear that not a single one of them actually achieved their claimed travel. In fact, some of them produced no more than 3.5" of actual wheel travel.
    Without getting into specifics names, how does the XCL design differ from other models that would allow 4.5" of full travel rather than claimed?

    With the low enough air wouldn't bottoming out the rear shock imply that all travel was used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duke777
    Does it have more travel?
    We are going to squeeze another inch or so out of the XCL
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    We are going to squeeze another inch or so out of the XCL
    How about the EVO? Is it gonna get a little more travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moment
    How about the EVO? Is it gonna get a little more travel?
    Yes, the 2007 EVO should get about another half inch or more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    Yes, the 2007 EVO should get about another half inch or more.
    SCHWEET When will we see a proto/finished frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    It can definitely handle the all mountain style riding you would do with a 36..but the geometry would be affected with that fork's ac length..
    Mmmmmm...affected geometry.....sounds delicious. Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't that raise the BB height about an inch and slacken the HA about a degree. Sounds like perfect All mountain Numbers to me well perfect for my neck of the woods anyway.

    CHUMBAevo do you work for Chumba or are you just really knowledgeable about their bikes?
    either way could you answer a couple of questions for me? Do you know the leverage ratio for the XCL and do you know just how strong a bike it is. By strong I mean is it appropriate for big Clydes that are XC but maybe a little bit....shall we say ham fisted? I would like a bike like the sc heckler but a little more maneuverable for the singletrack, is this the bike or is the evo more on par with the heckler?
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    More comparable to the Heckler.

    Quote Originally Posted by walrasian
    Hmmmmmm...affected geometry.....sounds delicious. Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't that raise the BB height about an inch and slacken the HA about a degree. Sounds like perfect All mountain Numbers to me well perfect for my neck of the woods anyway.

    CHUMBAevo do you work for Chumba or are you just really knowledgeable about their bikes?
    either way could you answer a couple of questions for me? Do you know the leverage ratio for the XCL and do you know just how strong a bike it is. By strong I mean is it appropriate for big Clydes that are XC but maybe a little bit....shall we say ham fisted? I would like a bike like the sc heckler but a little more maneuverable for the singletrack, is this the bike or is the evo more on par with the heckler?
    I used to own a Heckler and have an Evo right now. The XCL frame weight is very similar to the Heckler with an air shock.(around 7.5lbs). The Evo frame is 9lbs with an air shock and it is definately a burlier frame than the Heckler and descends better.

    I know the Heckler is clyde worthy and judging by the weight and craftsmanship of the XCL, it should be very clyde appropriate. I am also 200lbs+. Not sure of the shock ratio though.

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    why use the small volume DHX?

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    What's This?

    That bike looks like my Moto-Lite.... only less.

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    longer xcl's

    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    We are going to squeeze another inch or so out of the XCL

    when will the longer xcl's be in production? and what do you think the bike will weigh with your build kit (pike fork).

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying tonkatsu
    when will the longer xcl's be in production? and what do you think the bike will weigh with your build kit (pike fork).

    thanks
    we are having the first protos made now, should be done in 2-3 months. Bike will weigh less than 30lbs.
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    So people can get their hands on one of the new XCLs come April?

    Got to take out Francois demo bike past weekend, and my gosh that is one fun bike. You forget that the bike weighs a bit more than your weight-wennie XC bike, but it plain fun to ride. I was really impressed out how maneuverable the bike was, I was tossing it around and the suspension was just soaking everything up.

    Caught myself admiring the rear suspension linkage while riding and forcing myself to look up and not eat it.

    props on killer bikes!

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    Cool!

    Quote Originally Posted by baycat
    So people can get their hands on one of the new XCLs come April?

    Got to take out Francois demo bike past weekend, and my gosh that is one fun bike. You forget that the bike weighs a bit more than your weight-wennie XC bike, but it plain fun to ride. I was really impressed out how maneuverable the bike was, I was tossing it around and the suspension was just soaking everything up.

    Caught myself admiring the rear suspension linkage while riding and forcing myself to look up and not eat it.

    props on killer bikes!
    Yes, they will be available April, and I have some more good news to report. There will be a price drop to make the bikes more affordable!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    Yes, they will be available April, and I have some more good news to report. There will be a price drop to make the bikes more affordable!!

    -A
    Hmmm... have to start saving my pennies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chucko58
    Hmmm... have to start saving my pennies...
    LOL..don't worry, I will be delivering some major bang for the buck!! Working very hard right now..
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    an xcl with increased travel? wow. that is something i could get very excited about. is the travel increase an idea you guys are tossing around or one that will become tangible soon? i hope the latter. if the latter, by when? man, ive always really liked the xcl but thought it was a bit short on the travel. 5 or 5.5 inches would make it just yummy

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    I'm really digging this XCL. Sexy bike. I've been on the lookout for a 5 inch travel trail bike. Question:

    Head tube angle = 69 degrees...what fork/a-c is this based on? Really, I'd like a slacker bike, but that's how I roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I'm really digging this XCL. Sexy bike. I've been on the lookout for a 5 inch travel trail bike. Question:

    Head tube angle = 69 degrees...what fork/a-c is this based on? Really, I'd like a slacker bike, but that's how I roll.
    dude!!!! what are you doing??????? the titus love not good enough for you anymore

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    That is one sweet bike: strong, simple, functional, perty as all get out, plus, it's made in my hometown, SoCal!
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    so chumbaevo how's the test riding going? If you can pull yourself away from the bike for a second, I know I couldn't if the situations were reversed, could you give us some pics of that beauty fully built up? It is cold and snowy up here in Canada so bike porn is the only thing that gets me through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrasian
    so chumbaevo how's the test riding going? If you can pull yourself away from the bike for a second, I know I couldn't if the situations were reversed, could you give us some pics of that beauty fully built up? It is cold and snowy up here in Canada so bike porn is the only thing that gets me through.
    We should have some pictures of the new bikes up some time in the next couple of weeks. We'll get you some action shots as well as a few "studio" shots to drool over until we can get these things out to you in a month or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrasian
    so chumbaevo how's the test riding going? If you can pull yourself away from the bike for a second, I know I couldn't if the situations were reversed, could you give us some pics of that beauty fully built up? It is cold and snowy up here in Canada so bike porn is the only thing that gets me through.
    what up! unfortunately, i wasn't able to test ride it... we had to modify a couple things on it before taking it out on the trail .... all i can tell you is that if you like the way the XCL is now, you will be very, very happy with what we are going to do with our production bikes that are arriving in April...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CranxOC
    We should have some pictures of the new bikes up some time in the next couple of weeks. We'll get you some action shots as well as a few "studio" shots to drool over until we can get these things out to you in a month or two.
    do you know where I could get a deal on an F4?

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    Let the cat out!

    Let the cat out already, don't make us wait til April, what are the changes going tobe? I have a XCL on order now, should I wait for the new design?

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    Pic of complete bike..

    Here's a proto built up
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    That thing is looks really sweet! Especially if it has 5+ inches of travel....

    Can you give us some of the specs?

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    sweet I really am diggin that construction on that rear triangle.

    But those do not look like 29 inch wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    Yes, the 2007 EVO should get about another half inch or more.
    I realize I'm a little late on this thread, but I was looking at the geometry numbers on the Chumba website. Do you know what size fork those numbers are based on ?

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    Having them made?

    Quote Originally Posted by CHUMBAevo
    we are having the first protos made now, should be done in 2-3 months. Bike will weigh less than 30lbs.
    I thought you were the manufacturer! So who's doing the work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrider
    I thought you were the manufacturer! So who's doing the work?
    we do all our own prototyping..but not me per se..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowrider
    I thought you were the manufacturer! So who's doing the work?
    Slowrider- I was told that some company in Taiwan will be making the new XCL frames.
    Thought you might like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsquare
    Slowrider- I was told that some company in Taiwan will be making the new XCL frames.
    Thought you might like to know.
    It is true that we have moved some of our production overseas. We're using a high-end manufacturer -- and Ted is over there right now overseeing every step of the production process. We still do a lot of our own CNC work, welding, and assembly, but its just impossible for us to keep up with demand in our Anaheim manufacturing facility. Right now, we're literally backed up on almost every size and every model. Plus, we can guarantee the quality will be top notch, and the pricing will be more affordable to. The goal of CHUMBA was really to bring people on race worthy bikes that can perform comparably to the highest end boutique bikes out there, while being offered at prices people can afford.
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