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    Headset help - ZS44/EC44

    Competitive Cyclist told me I need this headset, however, they do not have any in stock.
    https://www.competitivecyclist.com/c...lamset-headset

    I don't know anything about these, so I am wondering if there is an alternative. I searched around a bit and could not find anything that I am certain would fit. It's also a bit pricey, I think.

    Upper ZS44/28.6
    Lower EC44/40

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    What frame and fork?

    Why do they say you NEED this one? Is it because you're putting a fork on a frame and the steerer tube is too short?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy G. Parrish View Post
    What frame and fork?

    Why do they say you NEED this one? Is it because you're putting a fork on a frame and the steerer tube is too short?
    Building a Pipedream Moxie, with this fork: https://www.competitivecyclist.com/f...oost-fork-2017

    Itís all new, donít think the steer tube is too short.

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    Looks like the Moxie has a 44mm head tube?

    If so, you're going to need a ZS44 top and a EC44/52 to run a tapered steerer tube fork. EC = external cup on the bottom.

    https://www.jensonusa.com/Cane-Creek...4-EC44-Headset

    However, measure the inside diameter of the head tube first to be sure. I had a similar situation where even the Cane Creek website gave bad information and I had to return the one purchased based on that.

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    The SlamSet isn't necessary. This is for getting the stem as close as possible to the head tube. ZS is a zero stack, which is short, and there are 44s which are a bit taller, if that's your preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy G. Parrish View Post
    Looks like the Moxie has a 44mm head tube?

    If so, you're going to need a ZS44 top and a EC44/52 to run a tapered steerer tube fork. EC = external cup on the bottom.

    https://www.jensonusa.com/Cane-Creek...4-EC44-Headset

    However, measure the inside diameter of the head tube first to be sure. I had a similar situation where even the Cane Creek website gave bad information and I had to return the one purchased based on that.
    I have this exact headset on a Guerrilla Gravity Pedalhead with a 44mm headtube. And I still use stem spacers to get the handlebars where I want them. The ONLY reason to get the Slamset is if you need your handlebars aggressively low for fit/handling.

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    Does Zero Stack (ZS) mean you cannot add spacers to raise handlebar height? Am I getting this right? Or can I still add a riser type stem?

    Here's the link to the specs for the Pipedream Moxie:
    Moxie | Long & Longer


    So, this should work, right?
    https://planetcyclery.com/cane-creek...xoCPbIQAvD_BwE

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    Quote Originally Posted by G View Post
    Does Zero Stack (ZS) mean you cannot add spacers to raise handlebar height? Am I getting this right? Or can I still add a riser type stem?

    Here's the link to the specs for the Pipedream Moxie:
    Moxie | Long & Longer
    No. In fact it means you can add more. It's simply a shorter top and allows the stem to be closer to the frame.

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    Right from the Pipedream website "ZS44/28.6 (top) and EC44/40 (bottom)"

    You don't need a 110 level if you don't want to spend the money, a Hellbender or CC40 will keep you riding happily for years.

    https://www.canecreek.com/product/forty/

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    Right from the Pipedream website "ZS44/28.6 (top) and EC44/40 (bottom)"

    You don't need a 110 level if you don't want to spend the money, a Hellbender or CC40 will keep you riding happily for years.

    https://www.canecreek.com/product/forty/

    Cool - Thanks.
    Still not easy finding one of these in stock; do any other companies make good headsets? Why is everyone out of stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G View Post
    Cool - Thanks.
    Still not easy finding one of these in stock; do any other companies make good headsets? Why is everyone out of stock?
    I literally gave you the link to the Cane Creek website. Why not just but it directly from them? Free shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    I literally gave you the link to the Cane Creek website. Why not just but it directly from them? Free shipping.
    Sorry, I could have sworn their website showed it as out of stock. My mistake, must have been looking at something else.

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