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    Grips--almost as comfortable as ESI but more durable?

    I love fat, squishy ESI grips but I crash too much for them to last. Is there a similar option that's a little tougher?

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    I've been using Shimano PRO grips. Maybe not quite as squishy, but they're good.

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    Another option is to just buy a bunch of these... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Bike-...hSyxB6tmMlFrVQ

    They are just as good as ESI Grips. I've had a few pair. When one set starts to get busted up, I just throw on a new set. The prices on those ESIs are absolutely insane.

    My new favorite grip is the Diety Knuckleduster. So freakin comfortable, and a great price. https://www.deitycomponents.com/knuc...ter-grips.html

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    Ditto the Knuckleduster! I like to do my initial climbing gloveless to keep my gloves dry and stave off "Mickey Mouse hands" and these are great even then. Bigger and with just enough squish for me.
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    Just recently moved from the Ergon GE1 to the GA2 Fat and really like them. Single side lock like the Knuckleduster, open end cap if you happen to run plug kit in the bar ends and so far they have been super comfortable. Not nearly as squishy as something like your ESI but still have a nice give to them.

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    Grips--almost as comfortable as ESI but more durable?

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    Another option is to just buy a bunch of these... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pair-Bike-...hSyxB6tmMlFrVQ

    They are just as good as ESI Grips. I've had a few pair. When one set starts to get busted up, I just throw on a new set. The prices on those ESIs are absolutely insane.

    My new favorite grip is the Diety Knuckleduster. So freakin comfortable, and a great price. https://www.deitycomponents.com/knuc...ter-grips.html
    Thanks for pointing these out, are they really as good as ESIís?

    Iíve tried lots of other grips previously and nothing has ever been as comfy as the ESIís. I still occasionally try another type and brand (itís a sickness) only to be reminded that everything else feels like riding bricks.

    The other great thing about ESIís is they are available in longer lengths which allows me to customize the size of the grip.

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    I like them just as well! The diameter of the grips are very similar. The foam density is very similar. The coating of the grip is slightly different, but I honestly don't know which one I prefer. I think it's worth a try at a dollar! I just personally won't buy ESIs again. I just don't see any added value.

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    I chew up ESI grips too. The ESI FIT XC line is as comfortable but lasts. Still need extra caps.
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    Another vote for the knocklebusters. I feel less vibration than with ESI.

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    Awesome--thanks, all, for the great suggestions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geraldooka View Post
    Thanks for pointing these out, are they really as good as ESIís?

    Iíve tried lots of other grips previously and nothing has ever been as comfy as the ESIís. I still occasionally try another type and brand (itís a sickness) only to be reminded that everything else feels like riding bricks.

    The other great thing about ESIís is they are available in longer lengths which allows me to customize the size of the grip.
    No they are not the same at all really.

    The surface is kind of glossy the foam is not nearly as dense and they don't fit nearly as tight.
    I saw them bought some hoping I was getting a cheap esi option.

    But don't take my word for it they are super cheap and hey you might like them more then me.

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    I've had esi and similar, and I have flirted with 3/4 flange grips like the odi xtreme which help me quickly locate the correct hand position if you take a hand off to drink or whatever on the move.

    I'm now using these: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ne...=219605-134267

    After a brief adjustment period, the slight bulge in the center actually does feel ergonomic. I like them. I wear xl or xxl gloves and the l/xl grip is good. If you wear smaller gloves, get the s/m grip because the bulge is smaller for a smaller hand.

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    Knuckledusters are ordered & on the way. If I don't fall in love with 'em, those Specialized ones sound intriguing.

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    I'm surprised nobody mentioned Oury grips. Oury Grips USA - racing grips for Atv, BMX, MX, Mountain Bikes.
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    Switching from ESI chunky to Ergon GA2 fat solved all my issues. Way more durable and still comfortable enough.

    On the plus side, I can use them gloveless while heading to the trail or climbing! I had serious issues with ESI, as using them gloveless would make my hands slip a ton because of sweat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Van Deventer View Post
    No they are not the same at all really.

    The surface is kind of glossy the foam is not nearly as dense and they don't fit nearly as tight.
    I saw them bought some hoping I was getting a cheap esi option.

    But don't take my word for it they are super cheap and hey you might like them more then me.
    I have two pair, and agree 200%. Weigh about 22 grams each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scatterbrained View Post
    I'm surprised nobody mentioned Oury grips. Oury Grips USA - racing grips for Atv, BMX, MX, Mountain Bikes.
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    I wish they made a single clamp version. I ride with my pinkie at the edge and the end cap starts to hurt. But one of the best grips of they work for you.

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    I have used lock on Oury's and the Diety Knuckleduster is far more comfy IME.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I have used lock on Oury's and the Diety Knuckleduster is far more comfy IME.
    It's been a long time but I remember liking the Ourys but that my pinkies hurt a lot.

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    ESI chunky alternative?

    What you are looking for are Shorex 34mm silicon slip on grips.

    They are 10 times more reliable. My ESIs all split at the end of the bars if I look at them funny. We just have too many tight tree gates here.

    The shorex take big massive crashes and rarely split. They also stay cleaner and grip better when wet. They are easy to wash if you go with a color as well ESI color grips hold dirt and stain.




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    Nice I'll have to check these out.

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    Hope Grip Doctors make my ESI grips last a lot longer.

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    I feel like I've tried a ton of grips. They're all either ok, or kinda bad. Except ESI. They're incredible. It's worth the 17 bucks a season to replace them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot View Post
    I feel like I've tried a ton of grips. They're all either ok, or kinda bad. Except ESI. They're incredible. It's worth the 17 bucks a season to replace them.
    x2^

    All grips start to get a little skanky after a year whether they're worn out or not, a new pair is a cheap way to freshen up the bike each season. ESI's last a year for me no problem but I'm not busting through tree gaps narrower than my bars.
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    I will get flamed for this, but my favorite are the Revolution grips.
    One of the most expensive on the market, but definetly the most comfortable.
    I used to use esi.
    Thinking about it, my suggestion doesn't belong to this thread.
    Anyway, anyone with some seriously hurting hands should consider them.
    They have helped me a ton.

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    I use the Oury slip-ons on all my bikes. Super squishy and comfortable without the lockon core...
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    I couldn't get oury slip-ons to stay on my bars. Hairspray worked ok to keep them on. Maybe my set was oversized, or my bars a little undersized, but they didnt instill confidence slipping around like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    I will get flamed for this, but my favorite are the Revolution grips.
    One of the most expensive on the market, but definetly the most comfortable.
    I used to use esi.
    Thinking about it, my suggestion doesn't belong to this thread.
    Anyway, anyone with some seriously hurting hands should consider them.
    They have helped me a ton.

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    I've got nerve damage in my hands, they go numb pretty easily. I tried these and they do work. I count get used to them moving though. But I can see how they would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scatterbrained View Post
    I'm surprised nobody mentioned Oury grips. Oury Grips USA - racing grips for Atv, BMX, MX, Mountain Bikes.
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    Oury grips are my favorites. Like others have mentioned though I wish they did not have the outer lock ring.

    Interestingly, the red Oury grips definitely seem to have a stiffer rubber compound compared to the black.

    Those Knucklebusters do look tempting, but I've been using Ourys for over a decade and every time I've tried a different grip its never measured up - not even close.

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    I'm going with Oury too. They have made that style grip on MX bikes since at least the early '80's and it's always been popular. I've tried the ESi and love them, just not the longevity. Like others pointed out, about a season on most grips is what to expect, they all get chewed up and gummy feeling. Oury makes more of a waffle one like the bottom part of the Knuckleduster, I do like those as well, especially in the wet, but they aren't as comfy. Might give the Knuckleduster a try, but usually not a fan of grips with that sliced rubber texture they have on top.

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    Have a look at these. Silicone Mountain Bike Grips and Accessories I have them on all three of my bikes. I use the Klampz model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DimitrisCSD View Post
    Switching from ESI chunky to Ergon GA2 fat solved all my issues. Way more durable and still comfortable enough.

    On the plus side, I can use them gloveless while heading to the trail or climbing! I had serious issues with ESI, as using them gloveless would make my hands slip a ton because of sweat...
    I tried the GA2s and they were incredibly firm compared to my ODI Rogues.

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    Well, I tried the Knuckledusters for 2 rides, but they didn't work out--too much tingling/numbness on my usual short weekday ride. Going back to foam for now.

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    In my search for a more durable ESI Chunky relacement, I recently tried the Renthal Push-On Kevlar grips. The rubber compound is as good as the reviews were all saying but there just isn't enough of it They are about 28mm diameter. I was hoping the lack of hard inner sleeve would help but it was still too firm compared to ESI. And I realized that I definitely prefer the feel of a larger grip

    Next step is rewinding many years and trying the classic Oury that always slipped, but this time I will be armed with safety wire pliers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DimitrisCSD View Post
    I had serious issues with ESI, as using them gloveless would make my hands slip a ton because of sweat...
    I have the long ESI xtra chunkies on my Jones bar.
    Also find they get slippery when wet (I don't use gloves.)

    Q: Could these foam grips be wrapped, for improved grip & a layer of protection from getting tore up?
    Or is that a dumb idea?

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    Iím real happy with the ODI Rogue grips I installed the other day, but I know the outer lock ring bugs some people... Every grip Iíve ever installed had two rings, so I guess Iím just used to it? Doesnít bother me at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultz66 View Post
    I have the long ESI xtra chunkies on my Jones bar.
    Also find they get slippery when wet (I don't use gloves.)

    Q: Could these foam grips be wrapped, for improved grip & a layer of protection from getting tore up?
    Or is that a dumb idea?
    Yes! I have been using athletic tape. I wear gloves, so I don't have a strong opinion about whether the tape aids or reduces grip, but it has helped me get a lot of mileage out of my current ESI grips.

    I use regular white tape, which shows dirt well, so it's a very "DIY" look, not for everyone.

    Depending on the direction you wrap the tape and how sticky that particular brand is, the end eventually starts rolling up. I've just used a razor blade to trim off that part, and usually add a new layer to that spot.

    Just a single layer of tape is all it takes to make the grip far more durable. If the grip tears (with or without tape on it), I just add another wrap of tape.

    I try not to wrap it too tight--I assume that pre-compressing the foam will make it less comfortable.

    I've also now tried the ebay $2 grips. They're subtly different from ESI. Totally decent--I would prefer these to any of the lock-on grips I've tried.

    Also curious about the Shorex grips someone mentioned upstream--will have to check those out!

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    Not sure if I already posted in this thread, but Shorex is your answer.

    They are more comfortable, just as light and crazy reliable. I have sets that once they hit that small tear from a big wreck in them never progressed any further and stay usable.

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    +1 for the old school Oury. The lock-ons are just less comfy since they have the plastic sleeve instead of solid rubber. If you're sliding on ESIs, these aren't any harder. Either hair spray or wire 'em onto the bars and done.

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    I've never found a lock on grip I liked. Too much grip diameter taken up by a hard plastic tube. I've been on the old school Ourys for about the last 10 years.

    I clean the bar with alcohol and let dry before install, then use the air compressor to blow air under the grip and slide it right on. This takes care of the slipping problem for me for the most part, though every once in a while on a rainy ride I'll get water under a grip and it's pretty much game over. But even then, that's maybe 1 time a year, and I probably do 50+ rainy rides a year.

    I also recently tried the Wolftooth Fat Paw grips on my DH bike at the recommendation of another forum member. They are super comfy, but they are very large diameter so I wouldn't recommend them at all if you have small hands or like thin grips. I find the Ourys plenty comfy for trail riding, but I did appreciate the extra cushion of the fat paws for riding all day in the bike park for 7 days straight.

    The fat paws seem pretty durable, but I haven't crashed on them yet.
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    dmr deathgrip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOCRIGID View Post
    dmr deathgrip.
    These look good, but I'm not sure if the name is better than Knuckledusters.

    Knuckleduster or Deathgrip, hmmm.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Late to the party here, but Bontrager makes an ESI clone that has lasted me all season so far.

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    My knuckledusters bit the dust while out of town on a trip. The LBS didn't have any so i got Ourly lock ones. Except for the outer ring they are great! Just like i remember. Might order another set of Deitys or see if i adjust.

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    You can cut the outside end of the ouris - they only really need one clamp to stay put. Depending on how you cut, you can get a little slot for the pinky. However, I cant keep them clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Just recently moved from the Ergon GE1 to the GA2 Fat and really like them. Single side lock like the Knuckleduster, open end cap if you happen to run plug kit in the bar ends and so far they have been super comfortable. Not nearly as squishy as something like your ESI but still have a nice give to them.
    +1 for the Ergon GA2 Fat's. As mentioned, not super squishy, but they are ever so slightly tapered. Narrower between thumb and index fingers, wider at the outside. Comfortable feel with a solid grip. And they hold up really well.

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    The Red Monkey Sports 9.5mm have been great for me. Way more durable than ESI and they make the grips for Wolftooth.

    https://www.redmonkeysports.com/coll...ain-bike-grips

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    Quote Originally Posted by drdre View Post
    You can cut the outside end of the ouris - they only really need one clamp to stay put. Depending on how you cut, you can get a little slot for the pinky. However, I cant keep them clean.
    Do you use the end cap to hold the grip in the 2 slots of the other lock ring?

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    Ditto drdre.
    I've been using ODI lock-ons for years with only one clamp. For me, I do it because I rock a superior shifting system known as GripShift. The ODI GS shorties suck cuz, they're too short and the inside lock-ring makes for metal-to-metal right where you need the cush.
    I run Rogues, cut to length, with a single locker outboard. Never had a problem.
    YMMV.

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    man.. them OURY slip-ons are sooo close to being awesome.. they feel pretty awesome..

    however they are a PIA to install.. and my bike fell over on the dirt and the end tore so first ride and the end is torn..

    meh...

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    surprised no mention of the Lizard Skins North Shore. I have a huge collection of grips that I have tried...ESI Super Chunky, Knuckledusters , Oury's, Specialized Contours, Specialized Enduro's, 50/50's, Ergons, ect.....I always go back to the North Shore's. I have big hands and they just seem to be the most comfortable with or without gloves. The Knuckedusters and ESI's I found impossible to ride without gloves the second your hands start to sweat. I aslo find the North Shores have the best dampening, even compared to the foam ESI's.

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    Have never used ESI grips, but have considered them. Main issue holding me back is the durability. Don't want to clip a tree on my first ride with new grips, and shred the end, or do an exploration ride on a narrow trail choked with thorns, shredding the grip, and so on.

    I've been using ODI Rogues for the past few years and I've been mostly happy with them. They've gotten softer and stickier with age, so control is outstanding. Couple knocks for me - first, they're not quite wide enough for me. My hands pretty much rode on the outer clamp all the time, so the ano wore off of them. Which sucked. I live and ride in humid climates and I sweat a bit, and no matter what I've tried, I can't keep the bolts for the clamps from corroding. I took to keeping a stock of those little bolts and just replacing them.

    Was in a wreck recently that messed up my cockpit pretty good (had to get new bars, too), which caused my ODI grips to slip in the clamps, which was far from confidence-inspiring. I had good results with previous Ergon GA series grips, maybe 5yrs ago or so, so I went back to them with the GA2 Fats that several others have mentioned (I have long fingers and appreciate a large diameter grip). Yes, they're a little firmer than my old Rogues. But the shape is nice. And from what I recall of my earlier experience with the GA series, is that they also tend to soften with age. So far, I'm thinking I like a single inner clamp better, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Have never used ESI grips, but have considered them. Main issue holding me back is the durability.


    IME they're reasonably durable. For sure they get cut easier than rubber/plastic grips but for me a little cut is no big deal and doesn't affect performance. My bike gets beat around, thrown in cars and crashed semi-regularly and I still get about a year out of them, and I could easily run them longer but a new pair is a nice refresh anyway.

    That said they're definitely not for everyone and it will cost $20 to see if they're right for you.
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    I like Oury slip on grips. I put them on using the blow nozzle on my air compressor. No mess, no fuss. I do wish they were about an inch longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Weld View Post
    That said they're definitely not for everyone and it will cost $20 to see if they're right for you.
    Might give them a try on the build I'm working on now. Just for giggles. If they don't work, I know there are a few other grips I can fall back to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGrr View Post
    I like Oury slip on grips. I put them on using the blow nozzle on my air compressor. No mess, no fuss. I do wish they were about an inch longer.
    You need Ooury grips.

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    $10 to $14 all day long on Amazon or ebay depending on color; Racer, Chunky, Extra. Mine are years old, and while the ends have a few run-ins with trees, they're pretty durable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twd953 View Post
    I also recently tried the Wolftooth Fat Paw grips on my DH bike at the recommendation of another forum member. They are super comfy, but they are very large diameter so I wouldn't recommend them at all if you have small hands or like thin grips.....The fat paws seem pretty durable, but I haven't crashed on them yet.
    Been riding the Wolftooth Fat Paw for about 1000 miles and really like them. I was using Raceface grips which are cool looking but not comfortable and caused some hand pain and trigger finger on my small finger. The oversized Fat Paw grips are definitely more comfortable and take away a lot of the vibration. They are large too which is nice for my big hands. I wear XXL TLD gloves. I will say they are getting a little beat up on the edges from crashes but I think thats normal wear for grips especially after 1000+ miles.

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    All of the damage I've had in the past on my ESI grips has been at or near the ends, so I am now experimenting with a set of Odyssey Par Ends to see if they will help me. They measured at 31.2mm diameter so they are very close to the diameter of the ESI Chunkies

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    I went back to my ergon GA2 fat grips.. the oury grips are too short and my hands are too big to really get comfortable with them installed..

    make xl oury grips please... thank you.. love the feel of them, but they are not long enough for me.

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    I got some Wolftooth Fat Paws for Christmas, to go on my 100mm hardtail. Been having more numbness & tingling after rides lately so wanted to try something new.

    Also switched to a Spank Vibracore bar as well at the same time so canít necessarily speak to the effect of just the Fat Paws. But went on a 20+ mile ride the other day with the setup. Definitely seemed to take some buzz out of my hands than the previous setup: Deity Blacklabel alloy bar with ODI Troy Lee grips.

    I run a Raceface Respond alloy bar with Ergon GE1ís on my FS bike. That setup does pretty well for me but the 150mm of fork travel probably helps too.

    I typically wear XL size gloves on most brands and the Fat Paws feel pretty comfortable so far as far as the diameter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkGX View Post
    Also switched to a Spank Vibracore bar as well at the same time so canít necessarily speak to the effect of just the Fat Paws. But went on a 20+ mile ride the other day with the setup. Definitely seemed to take some buzz out of my hands than the previous setup: Deity Blacklabel alloy bar with ODI Troy Lee grips.
    I really like the Vibrocore bars. I like them better than carbon since the aluminum flexes on landings, and the foam deadens vibration like carbon does. Best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubthang View Post
    I really like the Vibrocore bars. I like them better than carbon since the aluminum flexes on landings, and the foam deadens vibration like carbon does. Best of both worlds.
    Wasn't really sure about the Vibracore bars, but saw a lot of good reviews on them and got a good deal on the bar I bought. So I figured why not give them a shot and see for myself. I'll withhold judgment until I get more miles on the Vibracore but first ride impression was pretty positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkGX View Post
    I got some Wolftooth Fat Paws for Christmas, to go on my 100mm hardtail. Been having more numbness & tingling after rides lately so wanted to try something new.

    Also switched to a Spank Vibracore bar as well at the same time so canít necessarily speak to the effect of just the Fat Paws. But went on a 20+ mile ride the other day with the setup. Definitely seemed to take some buzz out of my hands than the previous setup: Deity Blacklabel alloy bar with ODI Troy Lee grips.

    I run a Raceface Respond alloy bar with Ergon GE1ís on my FS bike. That setup does pretty well for me but the 150mm of fork travel probably helps too.

    I typically wear XL size gloves on most brands and the Fat Paws feel pretty comfortable so far as far as the diameter.

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    I just put the Spank Spike Vibrocore bar on this week and went for a 20 mile trail ride. Also Wolftooth Fatpaws which as mentioned previsiousy Iíve been using. I kept them at 800mm for now, was riding about 720mm. First impression is I like them a lot. Had to stop mid ride to adjust them because I had them leaning back too far. Tipping them up made a huge difference. Just dumb on my part with the initial setup. Zero hand numbness or tingling and I think less fatigue in arms and shoulders but thatís hard to really say after one ride. Could also be effect of wider bars. Either way Iím sticking with this setup as is for at least another 100 miles and see if my hands and arms are still happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDHutch View Post
    I just put the Spank Spike Vibrocore bar on this week and went for a 20 mile trail ride. Also Wolftooth Fatpaws which as mentioned previsiousy Iíve been using. I kept them at 800mm for now, was riding about 720mm. First impression is I like them a lot. Had to stop mid ride to adjust them because I had them leaning back too far. Tipping them up made a huge difference. Just dumb on my part with the initial setup. Zero hand numbness or tingling and I think less fatigue in arms and shoulders but thatís hard to really say after one ride. Could also be effect of wider bars. Either way Iím sticking with this setup as is for at least another 100 miles and see if my hands and arms are still happy.
    My new Vibracore bar is 760mm (replacing the old 785mm Black Deity bar). I run a 785mm bar on my full-suspension bike so it was nice having same width on both bikes. But the 760 Vibracore felt fine on the initial ride and I used to run a 720mm bar on the hardtail before so the 760 should be a happy medium. Still helps a lot with steering input over the original 720 bar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubthang View Post
    I really like the Vibrocore bars. I like them better than carbon since the aluminum flexes on landings, and the foam deadens vibration like carbon does. Best of both worlds.
    I use Renthal Fatbar Lite carbon bars. They absolutely flex on landing or hammering out of the saddle. But foam is foam, and I bet that does help with fast, chippy trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
    I use Renthal Fatbar Lite carbon bars. They absolutely flex on landing or hammering out of the saddle. But foam is foam, and I bet that does help with fast, chippy trails.
    How do you like the Renthal's? I need a new bar for my Mondraker, and I have been tossing around the idea of grabbing a Renthal (aluminum) instead of my go to Vibrocores. The reason is that I can'y get the Oozy Vibros in a 40 or 50mm rise. I know I can get the dh oriented Spike in a 50mm, but I don't really need a dh strength bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubthang View Post
    How do you like the Renthal's? I need a new bar for my Mondraker, and I have been tossing around the idea of grabbing a Renthal (aluminum) instead of my go to Vibrocores. The reason is that I can'y get the Oozy Vibros in a 40 or 50mm rise. I know I can get the dh oriented Spike in a 50mm, but I don't really need a dh strength bar.
    I like my Renthal Fatbar Lite Carbon quite well - but they're only 760mm wide, which some would consider too narrow. Works great for me.

    My son (almost 12) uses the aluminum bar cut down to 720mm (if I recall correctly) but he's 90 pounds so I'm sure that bar is stiff AF to him.

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