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    Well, I got hit by a car on my way home...

    I was riding home from work down a pretty busy 2 way street with a center turning lane. I am about to pass a cross street while traveling at the speed of traffic going my direction (about 25mph).

    I see a guy in a silver Ford Focus in the center turning lane with his blinker on to turn down the road I am about to ride by.

    I continue on because its pretty obvious I am in the road when I see him NOT look at the oncoming traffic (where I was) and drive yank the wheel and punch it (like he could make it before I passed by) and he nails my rear wheel/rear triangle of my Surly.

    I jet lifted over the front end of the car and high sided onto my right side where I come within inches of plowing into the front grill of a 4Runner at the stop sign. In this whole motion my left knee gets twisted while clipped in and instantly doesn't feel right.

    Thankfully the guy stopped and probably 15 other people saw this dude blindly plow right into me. Thankfully I was wearing my helmet and had my backpack on with my work shoes. I came out scrape free.

    Out of the firehouse across the street come running out a bunch of firemen and police were conveniently right down the street. The guy stopped, police report taken, my damage assessed by the firemen. I refused an ambulance because I was able to stand a little bit and hobble on my own.

    Long story short, 4 hour ER visit, I strained my MCL in my left knee and now get to wear a immobilizer.

    Seeing a specialist sometime next week. Grand.

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    That sucks! Could have been worse though. (This is why you wear your helmet people!!)

    I tore my MCL snowboarding two years ago...the good news is that the best physical therapy for MCL/ACL recovery is riding a bike. Hopefully after this dude's insurance buys you a new sweet ride, you will be at 100% in a few months.
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    You left out the most important information...how's the bike?

    Actually, glad to hear that you were not more seriously damaged.

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    Good to hear you're going to be OK, I've been through almost the same scenario, minus the knee injury. Oncoming turners are a hazard in city traffic for sure.

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    Glad to see that you came out of it with just a bum knee... could have been much worse!

    drive yank the wheel and punch it (like he could make it before I passed by) and he nails my rear wheel/rear triangle of my Surly.
    You really have to wonder what goes through someone's mind that the extra couple of seconds of trying to make it saves vs putting someone else's life at risk...
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    OMFG, I'm glad that you weren't hurt worse. This just goes to show why I always say, whether you're in a car, on foot or a bike, right-of-way doesn't mean sh1t. If someone isn't going to safely yield, or you don't think they are, just let them go. If someone wants to pull, slow down and let them. It's maddening, but it's just not worth playing chicken with someone even when you legally have the right of way. I just don't understand why everyone is in such a god damn hurry.

    Lucky for you it happened near so many firemen and police! Rest up and get better soon man.
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    man you lucked out having the cops and firemen nearby, not to mention you backpack on too! you'll be up and running in no time i'm sure of it

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    Glad to hear your OK. Monday was the first commute to work day and I was pushed off the road by a soccer mom in a mini van with a cell phone in one hand and a coffee in the other. I now know my commuter can handle gravel.

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    Oh, man- I have no idea what MCL is , but I definitely understand F`d up knee. I hope things work out well in therapy for you- surgeries suck even worse. Will you still be able to work in the mean time?
    Recalculating....

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    When you can, post pictures of the bike. I want to see the damage.

    Here's to you feeling better.

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    when I used to ride to work I rode past that spot often had quite a few close calls at that spot

    here is to a quick recovery and minimal drama from the insurance company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary the No-Trash Cougar
    OMFG, I'm glad that you weren't hurt worse. This just goes to show why I always say, whether you're in a car, on foot or a bike, right-of-way doesn't mean sh1t. If someone isn't going to safely yield, or you don't think they are, just let them go. If someone wants to pull, slow down and let them. It's maddening, but it's just not worth playing chicken with someone even when you legally have the right of way. I just don't understand why everyone is in such a god damn hurry.

    Lucky for you it happened near so many firemen and police! Rest up and get better soon man.
    Agree. Ride defensively is the key word in commuting. Even u have the right of way , doesn't mean u can just budge thru. Interact with the traffic, anticipate of the driver, all this is an art.

    When I ride in a heavy traffic road. My hand will be on brake lever all the time.

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    This is a scary story, no amount of defensive riding can prevent getting clipped from behind by an idiot cager. Hope the healing is going well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=phelan=-
    man you lucked out having the cops and firemen nearby, not to mention you backpack on too!
    I've gotta say, this was lucky, depending on what was in the pack and how you landed on it. I know of a motorcyclist who had his back broken while wearing a backpack. He landed wrong on a can of coke in the pack and that fractured his spine. One of the reasons I prefer messenger bags myself.

    Glad to hear you weren't more seriously hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eredinger
    Glad to hear your OK. Monday was the first commute to work day and I was pushed off the road by a soccer mom in a mini van with a cell phone in one hand and a coffee in the other. I now know my commuter can handle gravel.
    I used to ride my bike wearing either combat boots or Doc Martins when I rode around downtown Seattle just for people like this. Decent sized dents in their vehicles can get their attention sometimes.

    The deal thing to remember is that 1) I am completely invisible when on my bike (and I don't care how much reflective gear you wear, the cagers still don't see you ) and 2) yes, those idiots really are trying to kill you.

    Once you get past your hate and discontent about these two facts, then your ride in traffic becomes more tranquil. After you base all of your riding decision making processes on these two precepts, you stay alive as you learn to anticipate all of the clever ways they're going to try and get you. I've been riding my motorcycle on the street for 25 years and that's what's kept me alive with no traffic accidents (and despite that I still always ride wearing about $2K worth of protective gear ... helmet, gloves, boots, leathers, spine protector, ect.)

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    Thanks everyone.

    I am very lucky to say the least.

    My backpack thankfully only had my work shoes in it.

    So far not including the bike, I have close to $400 worth of damaged goods (helmet, clipless shoes, pants that were cut off, etc).

    And then the medical stuff. I am seeing a specialist this Thursday. I really hope this isn't going to require surgery. I had surgery on my left shoulder in July and was going to get the OK from my physical therapist the next day. Looks like no winter DH racing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshed
    Thanks everyone.

    I am very lucky to say the least.

    My backpack thankfully only had my work shoes in it.

    So far not including the bike, I have close to $400 worth of damaged goods (helmet, clipless shoes, pants that were cut off, etc).

    And then the medical stuff. I am seeing a specialist this Thursday. I really hope this isn't going to require surgery. I had surgery on my left shoulder in July and was going to get the OK from my physical therapist the next day. Looks like no winter DH racing for me.
    You might be alright, I partially tore my MCL a few years ago playing lacrosse, Opted for no surgery as mine was projected to heal up alright if I stayed off it. 2 months later i was up and going again, (a little slower than before). 4 years later I cant really tell anything ever happened...

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    Dang! $400 in "stuff damage" is pretty bad, but nothing like a screwed up knee. Sure hope that turns out allright for you.
    Recalculating....

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    As sad as it is to say, you need a lawyer. The driver's insurance lawyers will be calling you to have an informal "chat", they'll be making notes so they can attempt to reduce any payout. Don't talk to them, don't say anything about your condition. Wait and let your lawyer talk to them. I know it sucks but if you don't have a lawyer the insurance company lawyers will do their best to screw you. Ask a trust friend or elder for a lawyer referral, there's plenty of honest lawyers that will take your case with no cash out-of-pocket and make sure you get the money you deserve, include lost wages, pain and suffering, future medical expenses, etc.

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    This is why you sadly need to keep a lawer on retainer. Most of them charge like $500 a year. Like having extra car insurance (and buy the way keep or get full tort on your pollicy you will need it)
    But nice to hear your OK. Just take it easy and go to any therapy they say you need.
    I over extended my ACL 20 years ago and blew off all the therapy (common I was 15) and from time to time I still feel weekness in that knee.
    Just take it easy and mount a boat horn on your bike. It scares the crap out of the cabbies. Which I must admit.....is perversley fun.
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    Went to the doc yesterday...

    -For sure sprained MCL
    -Possible torn meniscus in my knee (possibly require surgery depending on the severity)
    -Possible bruised bone

    I am getting an MRI on Sunday and have a follow up appointment with the doc on the 2nd to go over the results. I am going to have them sent to my primary doc as well so I can hopefully get an idea on whats wrong a little sooner.

    Meeting with the guys insurance person on Monday. I am hoping to get my bike looked at by a shop this weekend so I can have as much info as possible on how much they will have to reimburse me on.

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    ^^ for sure get a full estimate of cost from a bike shop. Don't leave anything out.

    And good to get the MRI so quickly. I had an x-ray, they didn't see anything, and it was 2 weeks later (trying to walk on it) that I went back in for an MRI and they discovered a fractured tibia and torn MCL. Doc said I could have easily done more surgery-requiring damage if I had just taken one weird step during that two week period before I knew to stay off of it.

    ...but a sprained MCL is better than a torn one! Hopefully the MRI doesn't turn up anything worse.
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    Agreed and thanks.

    Sorry to hear about your injury. Thats never fun hearing that...

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    That was two years ago, and If you ask me which leg it was now, I have to think about it before I answer. I'm probably in better riding shape now than I was before the injury. I credit the bike for my 110% recovery. You'll be fine, you just have to accept the down time and the recovery process.
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    I`m glad you`re getting that MRI. Are you still able to work while they`re in the process of diagnosing you?
    Recalculating....

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    wow that sucks, glad you survived the moron driver and I hope you have a full recovery! Bikers HAVE to learn how to ride defensively but car drivers don't because the worst thing that can happen in a low speed crash is an airbag goes off and you're OK. I kicked a car on Friday because he bolted in front of me and slowed to a crawl to gently enter the parking lot. Unfortunately his trunk got a large BUMP! I need to curtail my anger tho cuz I wiped out once trying to thump the side of a van who did the same thing.
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    Thanks guys.

    Yeah I did the MRI yesterday. I am going to call my doc today to see if they got the results in. Unfortunately they could not tell me anything there.

    I will post up my results as soon as I have them.

    I am also meeting with the guy's insurance adjuster today on my lunch. This should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshed
    Yeah I did the MRI yesterday. I am going to call my doc today to see if they got the results in. Unfortunately they could not tell me anything there.
    I think that`s normal. At least the one time I needed an MRI they couldn`t tell me anything until I went back to see the doc who ordered them. Good luck.
    Recalculating....

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    Not seeing anything immediately is a GOOD thing, based on my experience. I was still getting the scan when they started telling me about the fracture and tear that the X-Ray didn't pick up. If nothing stood out immediately, that's probably a good thing. The guy who does the scans is not necessarily a doctor, just a tech...when the tech guy is finding obvious injuries, you're bummed.
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    Thanks guys.

    I am supposed to get a call sometime today I think from the doc or his assistant with my results.

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    Just got some results back from my doc and the MRI.

    I sprained my MCL for sure and have some bone bruising. Everything will heal with time and physical therapy.

    I am SO pumped.

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    Good news! No surgery or anything lame like that... beautiful.

    Have fun enduring the wrath of a good physical therapist. I swear those guys enjoy seeing you in pain. Totally worth it though.


    So is your new singlespeed the pay-out from the dude's insurance, or are you getting a new bike out of this also?
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    Excellent news! Yes, physical therapy can be rough but it's "for your own good." Be expecting lots of "does it hurt when I press this really hard" shenanigans. Hey, anything's better than surgery. Good luck and heal up soon!
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    Thanks guys.

    Yeah I have been through PT for dislocating and breaking my ankle, shoulder surgery on both arms, and on one of my shoulders before surgery.

    Its a love/hate thing. I love being better, but it can be a painful/long process.

    As for the new SS, that was actually ordered a week before the accident, so I will be hopefully getting another new bike. heh =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshed
    I am also meeting with the guy's insurance adjuster today on my lunch. This should be interesting.
    How did the lunch go?

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    heh not too bad. They recorded my side of the story, confirmed exactly where it happened so they could take photos. They also went to the bike shop where the bike was getting looked at. I also listed all of damages done to my clothes/gear/etc.

    They also got all of my medical info.

    They said they will be able to cut a check for the damaged good (bike, clothes, gear) as soon as they get the damage on the bike. And the medical stuff whenever its all settled (after PT is done etc).

    Well see what happens.

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    Dang dude. First, glad you are ok.

    Second, make sure you itemize every last single thing you can think of that got damaged. Over shoot the costs. If they aren't paying for your bike fully, I'd make the case that it will never be the same.

    I just dealt with an insurance company for my stolen car a few months ago. Helped to work with someone that used to do it for a living. He said "They will say this. Then, you say this and this. Ask for this document to be faxed to you .....etc. etc." I ended up netting 3 times what they initially offered me.

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    Alright so I got word from the bike shop today about my bike.

    Looks like the frame actually made it out of from the accident. Thank you steel.

    But there is about $600 worth of damages and labor to repair the bike including the seat, rear wheel, shifter/brake, and a few other parts.

    Kind of bummed the frame wasn't bent. Oh well.

    Then another $400-ish in damaged gear/clothing + the doctor bills.

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    Well, you may not be getting a new bike out of it but you'll apparently be getting a new build which is almost the same thing! Consider it a testimonial to the awesomeness of Surly frames. Also look at it this way, if you got hit hard enough to damage the frame then you probably would have been hurt a lot worse.
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    Seriously.

    Go Surly for making a quality frame.

    Hopefully I will be finding out about my payout for bike/clothing/riding gear replacement soon. Well see.

    Also going over the full MRI results with the doc and seeing what he thinks about physical therapy etc.

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    I bet if you told your sad story to Surly while singing the praises of thier amazing product, you might still be able to get a frame out of it...
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    I wish.


    Hope someone who works for Surly is reading this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshed
    I wish.
    Hope someone who works for Surly is reading this...
    There IS a Surly forum on here (hint crosspost hint). And although they are a rather irreverent bunch, my dealings with them have always been A++.

    Glad it's all seeming to turn out ok. Insurance Co. cut the check yet?

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    Thanks for the info. I actually emailed them and they just said thats crazy the I and the bike made it out ok.

    No check yet. Hopefully soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshed
    Thanks for the info. I actually emailed them and they just said thats crazy the I and the bike made it out ok.

    No check yet. Hopefully soon?

    My check took forever. They play the waiting game.

    If you need a bike (or car) to commute, most people settle, because....THEY HAVE TO GET TO WORK! I didn't need my car so I just let them do their thing.

    I hope you have someone to help you through this, so you can wait and get paid as much as possible.

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    Another thing I was considering is...

    I am going to be talking with the insurance people about all of the damages from my accident today again.

    Do you think I could work something with me missing races in my semi-pro DH racing career to get more money? The fact that my sponsors expect me to race and perform and I cannot because of this accident? Its technically putting my sponsorships at risk by not racing... I have missed 1 race now and will be missing at least 1-2 more races.

    What do you guys think?

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    I think that is a very reasonable complaint. I would definitely get together any documentation, paperwork etc regarding your sponsorship(s) and present to it the insurance people.
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