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    Picked up a new commuter project. Need advice.

    Found this guy at a garage sale for $40 and decided I had nothing to lose. This will be to replace my Gary Fisher in my signature below. I want to ride with my roadie buddies from time to time but mostly this will be for to and from work and getting a workout.
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    It needs a new rear tube and tire. Possibly a new front tire. New bar tape. New saddle. Rear skewer(Already had that).
    If you have suggestions for a commuter please let me know!

    It is all aluminum(fork might be carbon), Full tiagra 9 speed(chainrings and cassettes look new), Mavic rims(not in the best shape). But its a 56cm which fits me perfect and no cracks or dents in the frame.

    From what I can tell, its a 2004 R400, but all the info i find on those have Sora components. Any ideas?

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    For $40 I would say that you really cannot go wrong there. Nice score!
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    Picked up a new commuter project. Need advice.

    Give ya 50 for it

    Excellent score. Replace what needs to be replaced and keep the rest. Those older USA Cannondales can't be beat, man!
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    You guys think I should go with 23c tires or go with something a little bigger?

    Also, Good cheap bar tape?

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    Wow. Nice find.

    If it were mine, I would:
    1) Consider getting 25c or 28c tires, if they fit in your frame/brakes. More comfy, lower rolling resistance, less chance of pinch-flatting.
    2) Try out a stem with less angle, possibly flipped. I'd want to be less upright (a little more aero) while still being comfortable.
    3) Keep the bar-tape you have on there, and wrap a second layer of bar tape over that first one.
    4) The levers seem to be too high up on the bar. I'd probably lower them. That way you could actually reach the levers from the drops.

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    Picked up a new commuter project. Need advice.

    I run 23's, but have no problem running 25's or 28's when the bug hits. I've also got some 35 Maxxis Raze knobbies that have been worn down to slicks that I toss on every once in awhile. Talk about a cushy ride!

    Lizard Skinz has some great bar tape. Wrap that over the tape you have already, and you'll feel like you're cruising.

    And don't be afraid to check out RoadBikeReview, the sister site to MTBR. Tons of great info over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio View Post
    4) The levers seem to be too high up on the bar. I'd probably lower them. That way you could actually reach the levers from the drops.

    The levers seem to be in the right place. The whole bar needs to be rotated about 35deg down. The ends should be parallel to the ground.
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    Awesome deal for that bike! That's a seriously high stem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straz85 View Post
    Awesome deal for that bike! That's a seriously high stem!
    That's what I was thinking. might try to find something that is more useable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne View Post
    The levers seem to be in the right place. The whole bar needs to be rotated about 35deg down. The ends should be parallel to the ground.
    Thanks for the info! If I went to a flatter stem would that lower the front end too much in relation to the saddle height?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne View Post
    The levers seem to be in the right place. The whole bar needs to be rotated about 35deg down. The ends should be parallel to the ground.
    I agree that the bar needs to be rotated, but the levers still seem high to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    Thanks for the info! If I went to a flatter stem would that lower the front end too much in relation to the saddle height?
    Depends... on your arm/torso length, level of flexibility, personal preference.

    Some people run bars level with their saddle. Others run a 5+ inch drop from saddle to bars.

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    Will the stem need to be 25.4 or 26mm ?

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    If the bars were rotated then the levers would be in the right place. The tips are approx. parallel to the bottom part of the bar. When the whole shebang is rotated then it should look/feel better.

    Stem will most likely be 26.0, maybe 31.8, for sure not 25.4.

    Go with what's comfortable. It doesn't hurt to try riding it with that stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayne View Post
    If the bars were rotated then the levers would be in the right place. The tips are approx. parallel to the bottom part of the bar. When the whole shebang is rotated then it should look/feel better.

    Stem will most likely be 26.0, maybe 31.8, for sure not 25.4.

    Go with what's comfortable. It doesn't hurt to try riding it with that stem.
    Picked up a new commuter project. Need advice.-20140802_153939_resized.jpg

    Like this or is that too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
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    Like this or is that too much?
    There's no right or wrong, whatever works for you. That being said, that's probably too much for most riders. You typically want to start with the top of the bars level with the ground or just pointing very slight down. Look at some pictures of road bikes and you'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
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    Like this or is that too much?
    Just about right! As was said, personal preference will dictate where it all ends up. I set my bars with the barends pointing at a point just above the rear dropouts.

    A longer stem (~10mm longer) with less rise (~5*) will help handling. The saddle looks a little high in the nose. But personal preference...

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    Ordered 2 Hutch equinox 2 25c tires.
    2 Continental tubes
    and a Selle Italia SLS Kit Carbonio Flow Saddle.

    Now I just have to wait till they arrive.

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    Don't forget the stem!

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    I snagged a stem from my buddy.

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    Re: Picked up a new commuter project. Need advice.

    Doesn't matter how the flat part of the drops are lined up. You spend so little time riding the drops I wouldn't let that be the deciding factor.

    I prefer my wrist to be a more neutral/natural position. I.e. not twist wrist so my thumb is lined up with forearm. So my hoods are tilted slightly up. The brifters could come down a bit but works for now and may change it when I need new bar tape. But that is what works for me.

    Fit is much more critical on a road bike vs mtb. When you get the saddle height & position set, with cranks parallel to ground, you should be able to take hands off hoods and keep same body position without too much effort.

    Bring tools on your first few rides to tweak adjustments. Ride the snot out of that bike hell of a find and for $40 you damned well stole it

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    Here's some info on serial numbers and old catalogs that might be worth perusing...
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    Great score!

    With the original stem and bar setup, the original owner was probably trying to compensate for fit issues. The next step would naturally have been:


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    Thanks for the help guys!

    Its actually a 2003 R400 Caad4, but the previous owner must have put all tiagra parts on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
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    Like this or is that too much?
    That bar will give you either level top or level drops, I prefer both of these to parallellish. I would get a more "modern" bar.

    'that being said, I have my brakes tilted even more down than that, but I never use the hoods, only the drops or the flat "fixie hipster" part. But for more allround use the brakes should come up an inch or 2 I guess.

    The saddle angle depends on if you want to be in the drops a lot or on the hoods/flat imo. tilt it down/forward more for in the drops position.

    nice find!
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    Do yourself a favor and buy a compact bar for that thing. I actually have cowbells on my road & CX bikes. Wider is better

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