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    The Long Cold Winter Commuter Support Thread

    Who else rides through the rain, sleet, snow, cold and dark of winter? We've begun our decent into the cold, dark months, the headlight is becoming a necessity, and it will be April or May before I am wearing shorts in the morning again. This morning it was 39 degrees...chilly, but nothing compared to what January will be like. I've been doing the year-round thing for 4 years now, and I have had no one to share the experience with. I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where we could share war stories through the winter.

    Personally, I'm out there every day that the roads are plowed. I missed 5 days two years ago due to snow/ice, and 41 days last year because I broke my leg snowboarding. I keep track of my 'driving days' to work, and weather is no excuse (unless I use 4wd to get to work, I should have ridden). I always start to wonder during this time of year how cold it will get, and how long and dark the winter will seem. I also never forget the first day in the spring that the sun comes up during my bike ride to work. Glorious.

    Who else has made this kind of commitment, and how cold will your winter probably get? I think the coldest I've done is low single digits...I don't think it's been below zero for me yet, but that's a definate possibility. I have done 4 or 5 degrees a couple of times.

    Let the winter begin! Who's in this with me?
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    Today is the first rain of fall here in the Puget Sound lowlands. Right now I am dealing w/ mounting a headlght around a handlebar bag. Later hassle will be deciding when/if to bother w/ mounting studded tires for the black ice season between Thanksgiving and New Year's (went on for months last year, usually it's only a week or 2). I know cry me a river it's not quite Duluth (pretty much never gets down even to the teens F) but...

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    You guys have my deepest respect! I just started commuting around Phoenix....the cold days are in the 60's....and it doesn't really rain. Not sure if I could hold onto my dedication in other parts of the country. Our calendar is kinda flipped...riding thru the 110 degree days in the summer are the big challenge.
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    I'll be commuting by bike for the first time this winter. It was pretty cold this morning...almost frost cold. My toes were very cold all the way in (12.5 mi). Time to get some neoprene booties. I also need some full-finger gloves and a balaclava. The rest of me was okay. Rain shell and long sleeve poly shirt worked well enough and my Pearl Izumi AmFIB tights were awesome. Here in Oregon, we get a lot of rain so that's my primary concern. I'm not going to ride 25 miles on ice.

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    me too!

    i have made it a goal to ride at least 4 out of the 5 days of the work week to work... it's 17 miles one way... so it's great for saving gas, staying in shape, and getting the message out to others that there are other ways of expending energy in a friendly, non-war for oil type manner... anyway, my question, and i'm sure this is not new... is how do i stay warm and dry on the bike through the rains here in oregon... i have rain gear now... but i still get some bleed through onto my pants and shorts... my upper body too also does not stay perfectly dry... and my gloves, which i've tried neoprene and others, once wet and with the wind.. are freezing... i just switched to gortex socks and they're a little better on my feet.. but my toes still get cold about 30 minutes into the ride...and pointers, words of wisdom?

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    Going on four years havn't missed a day....unless I go out of town, maybe 20 days in total.

    It is faster to ride in then fight traffic on a cold snowy day..

    Coldest -35 C without wind chill, had a 40 km/h wind in my face down the hill at 50 km/hr...

    But really if your dressed right it isn't too bad.

    The toughest part is fighting the car snot snow with deep ruts, gotta sit back and use your hips...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfight
    anyway, my question, and i'm sure this is not new... is how do i stay warm and dry on the bike through the rains here in oregon... i have rain gear now... but i still get some bleed through onto my pants and shorts... my upper body too also does not stay perfectly dry... and my gloves, which i've tried neoprene and others, once wet and with the wind.. are freezing... i just switched to gortex socks and they're a little better on my feet.. but my toes still get cold about 30 minutes into the ride...and pointers, words of wisdom?

    The right fenders make a huge difference. Also anything that you can afford with goretex (pants, jacket)...there's nothing better in terms of being waterproof and letting you breathe, so you're not a sweat fest underneath. I've been through several sets of gloves...my current ones have gore windstopper fabric...they are like softshell material...they do get wet in a nasty rain, but they still block the wind, so it's not cold like it would be. They are Manzella brand. I wear snowboarding shells over them when it's below about 20 degrees.

    I wear a goretex jacket with a hood, and I wear the hood under my helmet. I have goretex pants, which work well, but still dump water onto your feet. I use neoprene socks...my shoes get soaked, but the feet stay dry, and they do a good job cutting the wind. I think they're warmer than the booties that go over the shoes.
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    Ah, I remember riding in that kind of stuff in Colorado. I'll still be commuting this winter, but in Vegas I guess that isn't such a big deal. I agree with bigdudecycling though. This summer was not much fun. I think the hottest I commuted in was 115. Ugh

    Stay warm and dry out there guys!
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    I live in Wisconsin and don't use cars. I'm out there everyday. Luckily my class schedule this semester is such that I can sleep through the mornings. Class at 1pm everyday.

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    Here in Big D, it is doable. There's got to be some upside to all that heat in summer....

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    I've been commuting averaging 4-5 days a week since March of this year. Here in Marquette, on Lake Superior, it's not unusual to have winters of 200" to 300", possibly up to 400" of snow on a really heavy year.

    I'll probably commute into December, but will probably not make it all winter. Our second kid is due at the end of the year, and shuttling a newborn and a 2 year old around in the chariot won't really work in deep snow..

    I have to second the fenders though, they really make wet or snowy commutes 100% better. A few wet toes is a lot better than wet pants, wet shirt, etc. With the right layers, riding all winter isn't too bad. It sure is hard on drivetrain parts though, with all the wet/dry freeze thaw cycles.

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    You guys are getting me depressed. It's early fall!

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    Been commuting since winter of '01/'02, and only the too-slick road conditions get me off the bike. Usually, that costs me a month or so over the period of mid-Dec. to mid-Feb. Snow too deep, or icy surfaces, just don't get it for me. That's what buses are for.

    Winter-weight tights under the work clothes, and the nylon rainsuit over them, at least the lowers -- all-weather jacket down to about +10F; layered coat below that. Poly winter socks, sometimes over my wicking Starter ankle-highs, keep the toes good. Ski mask and/or microfiber balaclava under the helmet.

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    Three years here in lower SW Michigan. Yeeuppp, fenders are a must. IMO, so is a winter beater bike if you do a lot of commuting. Something with midrange level components like Deore or Alivio. They're heavy but they're dependable and they work. Most important for me, replacement parts are just a lot cheaper.

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    I'll keep it up through the winter, though I'll have to get up earlier with the slightly slower commute times and the possibility of having to shovel the walk before I leave. My winter beater is my year-round commuter so I'm all set!

    I expect to have dark commutes on the way to work and temps in the teens and twenties for the norm and 30s and 40s and twilight for the way home for the majority of winter.

    The coldest I've commuted in was low single digits, my hands got pretty cold that day and I was screaming every once in a while to make them feel better (hey it made me feel better a least),

    I have ridden in sub-zero weather, but it was also sunny, so it wasn't nearly as bad as my 5:30 a.m. single digit rides.

    I've got a few new pieces of gear for this winter so I'm looking forward to trying them out when the cold comes.
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    admittedly a short commute....

    only 30 minutes when dry, more when wet/slippery, so I'll be trying to ride as much as I can this year.
    Helps to clear the noggin before I get to work too.

    Down to -10 celsius is easy, past -20 gets really hard, more because of driver hurry (read: not paying attention and not expecting cyclists).
    (between -10 and -20 is a toss-up depending on personal factors )

    We'll be above -20 most of the time this year but quite frankly, when I see a windchill wanting of -47 degrees I just bundle up and suffer on public transport!
    Tires seem way more damaged at the end of a season, between the temperature shifts, the salt damage, and getting to sit outside in the snow all day while I'm at work... sure it's not good for them.


    EDIT: so shortly after reading through several of these "winter commuting" threads I got the urge to make myseld a nice mint tea with honey... which bring me to a question, I've jury-rigged a coffee cup holder on my bars, anyone else have good suggestions for warm fluid intake while riding?
    I've heard that you can fill a camelback with hot coffee (or whatever) and there's an insulatable tube covering or something, anyone know how well it works below -20 celsius?
    any home-brewed solutions?
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    while I won't be doing it this year, I may try it next year. Bought 2 gary fisher hkek mountain bikes and have slowly been moding them to make them useful for commuting. My issue this year is I'm about 20 miles from work (one way) and it's a lot of hills to contend with. In normal weather it's about an hour and a half. In the snow I'm sure it could be add an hour or so. I also work a late second shift which means my entire commute is in the dark...Something as simple as a light bulb burning out could make my commute even longer.

    In the spring though, I'll be about 10 miles from work - closer if I can find a place with decent rent in town. Even in the dark, 10 miles isn't that bad...Under a half hour if I push myself.

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    I cycled to work this morning with a temp of 38 F. Dry and clear for a change.

    It will start to snow soon and I can't wait!

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    Can't wait for winter!!!

    I was just saying to one of my friends...I can't wait for the roads the get snowy. I live in Iowa and have been winter commuting for many winters now.

    Two winters ago I put on my first studded tire...mounted it up front on my cyclocross bike with full fenders. This went well, slid around in the back abit, but I didn't like having gears...froze up a couple of times.

    Last winter I road an old mountain bike frame fixed gear with an ENO hub. No snow tires, just regular mountain treads and full fenders again. Slipped around a bit, but really enjoyed fixed gear in the snow.

    This year I'm building my dream commuter...Karate monkey, fixed gear, cascadia fenders, swapable wheelset with my other 29er, BB7's, big apples for the non-winter months, and nokian extreme 294's for snow and ice but with the ability to swap to regular mountain tread with the regular 29er wheelset if snow and ice melt away for a week or two.

    I'll post photos when I've got it built, two weeks or so. Running tomicogs on my SS hubs. Probably run 36/17
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    I commute all winter as long as the roadways are halfway decent. I love it. The coldest I've ridden was -20 F. There's no bad weather, only bad clothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerfrederico
    This year I'm building my dream commuter...Karate monkey, fixed gear, cascadia fenders, swapable wheelset with my other 29er, BB7's, big apples for the non-winter months, and nokian extreme 294's for snow and ice but with the ability to swap to regular mountain tread with the regular 29er wheelset if snow and ice melt away for a week or two.
    That will be a very sweet set-up. Please do post pics.
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    If there's one good thing about NOVA weather, I guess it's that we don't get either extreme. It rarely gets over 100 or below about 20. In Jan-Feb I do usually miss a couple days though because it just isn't safe to ride if the streets are icy -- more because of the drivers than the streets themselves.

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    Winter's a good ways off here in the DC area but this will be my third year commuting straight through the winter. I average 4 days a week, 22mi r/t, most of the year but have been closer to the 50% range the past 2 Jan/Feb's, due to the fact that our MUP's are crappily plowed and tend to thaw/re-freeze multiple times after each storm...just not worth it sometimes.

    The key is layers. That, and envisioning myself stuck in car traffic on days I hesitate to hop on the bike.

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    This will be my second winter commuting by bicycle. Since I started in early December last year, I'm feeling pretty well prepared.

    My daily routine has been honed over the past months and I might just be able to claim a cycle commuting century. That's a notion I just recently encountered on bikejournal.com, where over the course of a year you bike 100 days to work and back.

    Right now I'm at 88 days, including today. February and March were not good months for me. But September has been the best ever with 19 out of a total of 21.

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    I commuted to work all summer (I was only working weekends where it was feasible), it was glorious. Only 14 miles round-trip but made for a fantastic way to start my day. I had a bad motorcycle crash on the racetrack in the beginning of this month and it had been 29 days since I last rode my bike.

    Started commuting again yesterday. With today that makes 2 days where I've been sane, rested, and myself. I'm building up a CX frame for the winter (I won't put my Ferrous through these Wisco winters!) and plan on joining you all in being as-car-free-as-possible for my daily work needs.

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    I started commuting in `93 but didn`t make it through a winter until `96. I ride most days through the winter although I am getting better at knowing when I would be happier taking the bus. There`s not a lot of incentive to take the bus since it takes a quite a bit longer and then I have to put up with all the comments at work ( You didn`t ride to work today? What are you?, a wimp? etc.), but occasionally the roads are bad enough that it just doesn`t make sense to ride. I`ve also left an old winter coat at work for years just so I don`t get stuck having to ride home (although it`s fairly easy these days to check the weather so I normally have a pretty good idea of what`s heading our way).
    My goal this winter is to work out a good alternative to a cycling jacket. I wore a Gortex jacket from MEC for about ten years. It worked, but the last two jackets that I`ve bought have not been successful. If I can`t work out an alternative I think I`m going to end up with a ShowersPass jacket .....It`s no wonder I`m not rich, there`s always these bike things to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Geo Guy
    I commuted to work all summer (I was only working weekends where it was feasible), it was glorious. Only 14 miles round-trip but made for a fantastic way to start my day. I had a bad motorcycle crash on the racetrack in the beginning of this month and it had been 29 days since I last rode my bike.

    I broke my leg snowboarding last winter. I was off the bike for most of Jan-Feb...That first day back on the bike in February was something like 10 degrees F...I was sore, my knee was in pain and didn't want to bend, I wasn't conditioned to the cold...it was glorious. Everyone around me thought I was nuts for getting back on the bike so soon, but I bet you understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dskunk
    My goal this winter is to work out a good alternative to a cycling jacket. I wore a Gortex jacket from MEC for about ten years. It worked, but the last two jackets that I`ve bought have not been successful. If I can`t work out an alternative I think I`m going to end up with a ShowersPass jacket .....It`s no wonder I`m not rich, there`s always these bike things to buy.
    Check out a softshell jacket by any of your standard mountain wear/backpacking companies...Columbia, Mountain Hardware, The North Face, Patagonia, REI, etc... I've been using a Columbia softshell for the past couple winters with nothing but a jersey under it, down to single digit temps, and it's been great. I've been caught in a few downpours also, and it's great in the rain. Most of them are waterproof/breathable, and stretch more than goretex. They can get expensive, but I found mine at campmor.com for 50 bucks. It doesn't have a drop tail, but other than that it's a perfect cycling jacket.
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    I'v been doing it for 7 years now. Didn't make it through the first winter but have not missed one after. Put my fenders on last week and bought a new front flasher. The cold is not the problem here, its the rain. I gave up on rain gear, if its really water proof I'm soaked in sweat at the top of the hill. If its breathable it fails in a heavy rain. If I buy good quality waterproof/breathable gear, the grit from the road ruins it. So I just get wet and hang stuff up to dry at work.

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    With the temps suddenly dropping where I am, I'm finding myself in my usual fall trepidation mood. Not quite ready to make the cold-weather transition yet. But, I always manage.

    Breezy and brisk out there this morning...stung a bit. Time to get after it, mentally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    I broke my leg snowboarding last winter. I was off the bike for most of Jan-Feb...That first day back on the bike in February was something like 10 degrees F...I was sore, my knee was in pain and didn't want to bend, I wasn't conditioned to the cold...it was glorious. Everyone around me thought I was nuts for getting back on the bike so soon, but I bet you understand.
    4 days in a row now, and let me say: never has a sunrise on a bicycle been so glorious in all my life.

    Bring on winter!
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    light toque unde the helmet, fleece-backed leather "biker" kerchief for the neck, vest and sweater under rainshell, heavy nylon DH azonic pants, hit the roads early cause all the excess gear slows me down some.

    funfunfun!

    need java en route though, moving coffee cup holder (maybe just finish of fthe winter commuter build and start riding that) over during the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    Check out a softshell jacket by any of your standard mountain wear/backpacking companies...
    Thanks Buddy, I've just spent the last two days surfing the net trying to decide which softshell to buy. ( )
    Cheers, Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by dskunk
    Thanks Buddy, I've just spent the last two days surfing the net trying to decide which softshell to buy. ( )
    You'll be thanking me later (after you pay for it)... nothing better in my opinion. I'm kind of hoping I crash in mine soon so that I can rip it an buy another one. They are only getting better in terms of wind/rain protection and function, and mine's a few years old now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byknuts
    only 30 minutes when dry, more when wet/slippery, so I'll be trying to ride as much as I can this year.
    Helps to clear the noggin before I get to work too.

    Down to -10 celsius is easy, past -20 gets really hard, more because of driver hurry (read: not paying attention and not expecting cyclists).
    (between -10 and -20 is a toss-up depending on personal factors )

    We'll be above -20 most of the time this year but quite frankly, when I see a windchill wanting of -47 degrees I just bundle up and suffer on public transport!
    Tires seem way more damaged at the end of a season, between the temperature shifts, the salt damage, and getting to sit outside in the snow all day while I'm at work... sure it's not good for them.


    EDIT: so shortly after reading through several of these "winter commuting" threads I got the urge to make myseld a nice mint tea with honey... which bring me to a question, I've jury-rigged a coffee cup holder on my bars, anyone else have good suggestions for warm fluid intake while riding?
    I've heard that you can fill a camelback with hot coffee (or whatever) and there's an insulatable tube covering or something, anyone know how well it works below -20 celsius?
    any home-brewed solutions?

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    The Pearl Izumi AmFIB tights got a good test on Friday...they work great! I was in a good solid rain for 44 minutes/13 miles and my legs and feet were dry and not at all sweaty.

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    I commuted everyday for two and a half years. I wore SPD sandals every day. Ok, that was in Hawaii, not really a good comparison.

    Now I am in the PNW and my commute is 1 hour twenty minutes each way. I bought a Showers Pass Elite jacket and Specialized Defroster MTB shoes last year. I can do most days unless it is below freezing. The first ten/last ten miles of my commute is on a rural two lane road. No ice or snow for me. I have some nice Descente gloves, polypro beanie, and some polypro tights plus a pair of AMPHIBs. The AMPHIBs just get too warm on my long commute. Maybe I will invest in some rainpants this year.

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    As you wished...

    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    That will be a very sweet set-up. Please do post pics.


    The frame and wheel set were both bought used here on the classifieds and I got the rest of the parts from my LBS. Thanks to you all!

    I also have a pair of Nokian Extreme 294's (studded) for when the snow starts falling and this wheel set will be swapable with my other 29er which I use for single track. Looking forward to ice and snow! This will be my first time with studded tires which are this aggressive...had some regular 35c on the CX bike but 2.1's should be fun!

    SS right now but will switch to Fixed when the snow falls and the Nokians are on.
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    I get real lucky here in the Sf Bay Area. It rarely gets lower than 30 in the winter and absolutely no snow. Rain isn't much of an issue for me either. Some people go to great lengths to stay dry, but it doesn't bother me. My body heat and the heat indoors usually dries me off fairly quick. also, we get most of our storms from the tropics, so it gets warm and humid here when it rains. I get heated up very quickly, so I have to wear a thin layer of clothes anyway, even when it's cold out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerfrederico

    The frame and wheel set were both bought used here on the classifieds and I got the rest of the parts from my LBS. Thanks to you all!

    I also have a pair of Nokian Extreme 294's (studded) for when the snow starts falling and this wheel set will be swapable with my other 29er which I use for single track. Looking forward to ice and snow! This will be my first time with studded tires which are this aggressive...had some regular 35c on the CX bike but 2.1's should be fun!

    SS right now but will switch to Fixed when the snow falls and the Nokians are on.
    I don't know how long your commute is but since i own a pair of 294's i can tell you that i wouldn't want to ride 20 miles plus each morning like i do without gears. Guess i am a wuss.

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    I don't know how long your commute is but since i own a pair of 294's i can tell you that i wouldn't want to ride 20 miles plus each morning like i do without gears. Guess i am a wuss.
    I have a dingle setup on my commuter fixed gear. When the snow is deep I'll switch to the other ratio. I'm in good shape so I can spin for a long time and climb the steeps in the big ratio with relative ease, or at least faster than any of the local roadies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmucker
    I'm in good shape so I can spin for a long time and climb the steeps in the big ratio with relative ease, or at least faster than any of the local roadies.
    The local roadies:

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    supposed to be 33 when i depart tomorrow (friday morning) at 5AM-ish. coldest day yet. i will be rocking the wigwams, tights, couple jerseys, neoprene gloves, windbreaker and vest on my 12 mile commute. glad i can take a nice hot shower at work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkly
    I don't know how long your commute is but since i own a pair of 294's i can tell you that i wouldn't want to ride 20 miles plus each morning like i do without gears. Guess i am a wuss.
    The majority of my commuting is around town...multiple 4 mile round trips usually 2-3 times a day. I do have a 12 mile round trip commute most days as well, but only one hill, which is on the way home. I think I'll be able to handle it. If not, that's what I've got the CX bike for.
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    This is the time of the year to find out who the true crazy riders are. Yesterday morning in Denver it was mid 30's and dark when I left to work and I was happy. Happy knowing that soon it will be dark riding in to work and riding home. Happy to know soon I'll have to put fenders on the cross bike for the winter. Happy to know I have new thermal tights I bought on 1/2 price in May for the winter.

    I think the best ride of the year is the first snow ride in the snow, be it on the dirt, or just commuting to/from work. I can't wait.
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    I commute all year. Only 10 miles along the coast road here, in southern Norway.

    I took some pictures one beutiful morning when the sun had finaly started to show up on my 05.00 ride. It was -21 celcius and I had nokia studded tires.

    Awfull mobile phone pictures...



    I am sorry to say that the poor trek didn`t make it all the way to spring. The salt and lack of mudguards killed the drivetrain and spokes erroded and snapped.



    The fork died too, so this years commuter has full mudguards, innboard gears and ridgid fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerfrederico
    This year I'm building my dream commuter...Karate monkey, fixed gear, cascadia fenders, swapable wheelset with my other 29er, BB7's, big apples for the non-winter months, and nokian extreme 294's for snow and ice but with the ability to swap to regular mountain tread with the regular 29er wheelset if snow and ice melt away for a week or two.

    I'll post photos when I've got it built, two weeks or so. Running tomicogs on my SS hubs. Probably run 36/17
    That is hawt. I'm really liking the look. What bars are those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    You'll be thanking me later (after you pay for it)... nothing better in my opinion. I'm kind of hoping I crash in mine soon so that I can rip it an buy another one. They are only getting better in terms of wind/rain protection and function, and mine's a few years old now.

    In case you missed my other thread, I jinxed myself with this post and I DID crash in my softshell, and completely destroyed it. It melted from skidding down the road (and so did a large chunk of my shoulder).

    Anyway I replaced it with a Mountain Hardwear 'Synchro' softshell. It almost made the wreck worth it. Windproof/Waterproof, incredibly warm and incredibly light and stretchy. It was designed as an ice climbing jacket, so the sleeves are really long for reaching up over your head (perfect for riding position). Tons of great features...I can't wait to ride through the winter in this thing. If you're shopping, you gotta check one of these out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fux
    I commute all year. Only 10 miles along the coast road here, in southern Norway.

    I took some pictures one beutiful morning when the sun had finaly started to show up on my 05.00 ride. It was -21 celcius and I had nokia studded tires.

    Awfull mobile phone pictures...



    I am sorry to say that the poor trek didn`t make it all the way to spring. The salt and lack of mudguards killed the drivetrain and spokes erroded and snapped.



    The fork died too, so this years commuter has full mudguards, innboard gears and ridgid fork.
    Those are beautiful photos

    I commute all winter too. You hardcore people will probably like this photo story of one day's commute: https://www.mechbgon.com/commute

    My feet can't stay warm below 10°F even with Specialized Defroster shoes, thick wool socks and thick neoprene booties with plastic bags inside, so I might try heated socks this winter. Does anyone know of any high-quality heated socks they'd recommend?

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    mechbgon:
    what PSI are you running in the Nokians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon
    I commute all winter too. You hardcore people will probably like this photo story of one day's commute: http://www.mechbgon.com/commute
    I THOUGHT I was hardcore until I checked that out. Awesome. I had some friends at Gonzaga, by the way...Spokane is an awesome city/awesome area
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    that commute looks awesome!
    I stay away from highways in winter myself, one quick slip and I'm under a semi!

    But serious props for doing that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by analoguekid
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    what PSI are you running in the Nokians?
    Usually about 30-35 front, 40-45 rear. I've lost 20 pounds so I may be able to get away with somewhat less, but I don't want the front tire trying to roll sideways when I corner on pavement.

    Glad you guys liked the pics The '07-'08 winter was a serious one for Spokane, with near-record snowfall, just storm after storm after storm. It was outta control for a while.

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    it is going to be in the twenties in the morning tomorrow....hmmm. do i really want to commute in the winter?
    Winter is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachjon
    it is going to be in the twenties in the morning tomorrow....hmmm. do i really want to commute in the winter?
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    Storm

    There is a bit of a storm here the last few days.



    I had to stand and pedal in my lowest gear today and I used over an hour on my 15.7 km`s in. I hope it dies down a bit before I go home because I trained intervals yesterday and this was supposed to be a day off training.

    Oh, sorted out my new commuter, I love the mudguards but I have to find some skinnier tires for clearence as it rubs a bit now.

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    This was my first day in the 20's also ...I think it was 28 or so. What was I thinking when I shaved my full beard? This goatee is freaking cold.

    Nothing but a moisture wicking teeshirt under my Mountain Hardwear Synchro softshell, by the way. I actually unzipped it a bit before I got to work. You gotta check these out.
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    Here in Alaska commuting in the winter takes a real commitment of time and gear. I have two winter bikes now, a pugsley with large marge and endomorphs, and a rockhopper with snowcats and nokian 294's for icy packed conditions.

    I try to commute at least twice a week in the winter, I would ride more but due to weather and the distance I have to travel sometimes its just not possible.

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    I'm trying to work my winter bike out right know, hopefully I can find a cheap commuter that will work soon.
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    I hear ya Jeff, this year will be my first year for winter commuting. 294's are on order. No fat bike, YET. ;p

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    i'm used to commuting in Calgary, Alberta where the winters are pretty extreme for the most part, although not too too snowy.

    this winter i'm in the Kootenays of British Columbia, where it won't be as cold, but I think I'm in for a lot more snow, so i'm kinda excited. I might have to ride my mtb instead of road, we'll see

    as for ^^^ for warm feet - i ride flats on my commuters, and sometimes just use my winter hiking boots. maybe a little klunky, but they work just like they should. i've given up on most pricey cycling-specific winter gear for gloves, shoes, socks and just use my ski or hiking gear

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    I currently live in Stuttgart Germany and it is a wonderful place for cyclists. This is my first year commuting to and from work (6 hilly miles each way). I'm kind of afraid of riding in sub-freezing temps. I had a nasty spill a few months ago one day the roads were wet. To make a long story short, I busted my chin open, knocked out one tooth and chipped another tooth. I've gotten my grill fixed, but I'm still timid when it comes to riding in poor road conditions. I'll be taking it a day at a time this winter. I hope that I make it through the whole winter. I have more than enough gear to stay warm, but I'm still a little gun shy from my accident.
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    ^^ I hear you there. I took a dive in the dark on my morning commute about 3 weeks ago, and I've been pretty timid when riding in to work since then. I decided that there's nothing wrong with arriving 5 minutes later for a while, until I either add to my headlight collection or somehow get over my fear of repeating that crash.

    When we get a big storm, I'll drive when the roads are packed snow/ice, and ride as soon as they're clear. That's usually only a day or two around here. Not enough for me to buy studs (yet). My best winter commuting effort so far saw me driving to work only 5 times. The year before that I think it was 24. I live way up a dirt road, so it's hard to guess how the pavement will be from my house. Sometimes my dirt road will be like sledding, and the pavement will be clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon76
    I currently live in Stuttgart Germany and it is a wonderful place for cyclists. This is my first year commuting to and from work (6 hilly miles each way). I'm kind of afraid of riding in sub-freezing temps. I had a nasty spill a few months ago one day the roads were wet. To make a long story short, I busted my chin open, knocked out one tooth and chipped another tooth. I've gotten my grill fixed, but I'm still timid when it comes to riding in poor road conditions. I'll be taking it a day at a time this winter. I hope that I make it through the whole winter. I have more than enough gear to stay warm, but I'm still a little gun shy from my accident.
    Do you have a good pair of studded tires on your bike ? If not you should they work amazingly well on icy winter roads and trails. Stick with either Nokian or Schwalbe stay away from the cheaper ones this is one area you don't want to try to save a buck.

    I have a pair of Nokian 294's that are on there 3rd season and still going strong !

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    After reading this thread, I’ve changed my attitude about riding through the winter. I had my mind made up that as soon as the temperature dropped below 32F, I'd hang up my helmet for the winter. Now that I see that I won't be battling the elements alone, I have a new motivation to keep riding.

    I can say that I did learn some things from my accident. I am much more careful when I take corners (regardless of the road conditions). I've also start riding with a mouth guard (won't leave home without it). Not only does the mouth guard give me piece of mind that I won't have a repeat of my previous accident, it also keeps my teeth warm when I'm sucking down the frigid morning air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon76
    After reading this thread, I’ve changed my attitude about riding through the winter. I had my mind made up that as soon as the temperature dropped below 32F, I'd hang up my helmet for the winter. Now that I see that I won't be battling the elements alone, I have a new motivation to keep riding.
    That's exactly what I was thinking when I started this thread. Knowing that the rest of you are out there battling the same elements makes it that much easier to get out there myself.
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    Personally, these last few days where it's been near 30º for my commute have been absolutely wonderful.

    I was actually hoping to hit the snow yesterday. I should also mention, tomorrow marks the Month of October with only 1 day of driving in to work. I'm pretty stoked.
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    ^^ I'm with you on liking those crispy cool mornings...It's not until the teens or so that I begin to question my sanity.

    The forecast around here calls for a couple days of pretty serious rain...I have the fenders on finally, and I think I'm ready for that first serious rain ride....we'll see after work today. It was dry on the way in, but you can tell it's going to unload any minute. I definitely prefer the snow...
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    We're supposed to be getting our first major rains of the season this weekend here in the Bay Area. Supposed to start tonight actually. Guess this is as good a time as any to test my commuter in the rain!

    Had to wear a sweatshirt to work for the first time this morning (I know, poor me). At night I'm still going bare sleeves, huffing and puffing uphill. It's still hovering around the lower 60s/upper 50s in late evening. Good all-year-round cycling here in the Bay Area!
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    I've just gotten to the point where I've started wearing my full face helmet on my commute to preserve my ears. the lows are only starting to dip into the 30s so far, but for someone who's idea of the perfect riding day includes some nice, fast, flowy single track (with chances to get air) with very green vegetation coming right up to the trail, ridden when the temps are in the mid 70s, lows in the 30s is pretty chilly. I think that once the lows start to dip into the 20s I'll pick up a wind proof baclava to wear under the full face. as for bike setup, right now I'm riding my do-all xc-trail-AM-screw-around bike, which is set up 2x9, 4" travel front and rear, hydro disks, 29" wide risers, with michelin knobbies front and rear. in central VA we don't get much snow (if we get anything it usually melts and goes to ice pretty quick), but I wouldn't mind riding in the snow. when the roads go icy I hang up the helmet and get a ride to school with my parents, but do want to ride every day the weather isn't bad
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    It's supposed to be in the low 70s here in southern Wisconsin.

    I might actually have to break out my short sleeve jerseys again ... I don't know what to do!
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    I hear you, its going to be nice here all week, we had 2" of snow last week and 2 days later it as short weather.
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    So I threw on Nokian Hakkapeliitta 700 x 35 tires on my commuter yesterday in preparation for the upcoming snow that we are supposed to get blasted with in the coming weeks. (Or season?)

    What a weird sensation. I'm a little leery of the side grip on corners, as well as braking but I'm sure I'll find the limits eventually.

    The sound the studs make on the road are awesome. It's like I'm riding through rocks ... all the time.
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    commute all year

    have for the last 5
    then again I live in san diego, where I may have to bust out some knickers and arm warmers once in awhile

    much respek fer my frozen brethren!

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    We finally got some snow, about 4 inches laying around here in Anchorage, the commute has been fun so far! Waiting for more paths to be cleared is the hard part. ;p Temps in the teens to low twenties.

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    This is my first year commuting by bike. I started back in March/April when gas prices spiked over $4.00 a gallon. At first I figured that I'd ride through the summer and start driving again at the first sign of fall, but here it is the middle of November and I'm still going strong. However, I think that I've finally identified my “Too cold to ride” point. I plan on continue riding as long as the daily low temperature isn't forecasted to be below 30F. So far the temperature has remained above my riding threshold, but it looks like my dedication to cycling will be tested by the upcoming temperatures (Friday’s low is forecasted at 22F). Regardless of whether I make it through the entire winter or not, I've already gone way further into the year than I thought I would have.

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    It was 6F w/ ice fog yesterday AM on the commute into work. About 16F on the way home this evening. I drove to work tonight for maintenance and it was 3F. Should be a cold afternoon commute for sure tomorrow. Still not getting cold yet, but I have a feeling that 0f will be a starting point on when to add more clothing.

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    Keep on going!

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon76
    This is my first year commuting by bike. I started back in March/April when gas prices spiked over $4.00 a gallon. At first I figured that I'd ride through the summer and start driving again at the first sign of fall, but here it is the middle of November and I'm still going strong. However, I think that I've finally identified my “Too cold to ride” point. I plan on continue riding as long as the daily low temperature isn't forecasted to be below 30F. So far the temperature has remained above my riding threshold, but it looks like my dedication to cycling will be tested by the upcoming temperatures (Friday’s low is forecasted at 22F). Regardless of whether I make it through the entire winter or not, I've already gone way further into the year than I thought I would have.

    I think you'll find that a little experimenting with clothing, especially gloves, will allow you to ride nearly every day of the year. Snow and ice is another matter, but keep on going!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by farmerfrederico
    I think you'll find that a little experimenting with clothing, especially gloves, will allow you to ride nearly every day of the year. Snow and ice is another matter, but keep on going!!!!!
    I think I'm going to take it a day at a time once the temperature drops below freezing. I did buy some waterproof winter boots today in preparation for the cold weather. Dang you guys and your words of motivation.

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    fux, wussup with that book/cd shelf?????
    Its design, apparently.

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    As for tires, I fit my On-one with schwalbe marathon winter 700x42 and it flies. Works well on the icey patches and frozen gravel. No snow yet though.

    Funny thing is I sold my On-one and have just bought me a salsa la-cruz, I`ve only had the inbred a month but a friend wanted it so bad after he saw it and bought it on the spot!
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    Any little known tips for a newbie to the commuting scene? i have already been scared back into my car since i work night shift it is colder then. anything helps. thanks

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    I'm going to start doing it as soon as I get some appropriate attire. My commute is only 2.5 miles.
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    Well, the winter has finally arrived in Colorado, dang we had a good run of warm weather this year. High of 77 two days ago and low 20's with freezing drizzle this morning.

    That said, I absolutely love my new GoLite Aero jacket, it was built for this weather. I tried it previously on a ~30°F dry morning and it was too warm, but it was perfect today.

    The last two miles saw my rear derrailleur freeze and both of my brakes freeze, good thing it's an uphill finish.

    Lots of crazy looks from coworkers when I came into work with 1/8" of ice over my entire body, but I was still warm. My glasses were pretty useless though with all the ice on them.
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    I've been commuting for about 25 years. Hope this helps. . .

    Fenders and packs mounted to a rack, backpacks are for junior high kids

    Gore tex shell and rain pants.

    Stay off ice but if you need to find yourself there, get studs.

    WOOL. . . theres no substitute

    Big cheapo fatass snowboard gloves beat cycling gloves for warmth, price and durability

    plastic bags over shoes under neoprene toe warmers for feet. Wet feet suck!

    multiple red flashers and a good headlight you can rely on.

    Stay warm and safe

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    As I rode home tonight the snow flurries became heavy. With my Hope HID light I was getting put in the hypnotic state. It was pretty Trippy.

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    Just got my Craft balaclava, storm tights & gloves in today. Tomorrow ... Pearl Izumi barrier gtx boots.

    Layers layers layers ... the cold doesn't bother me as much as the wind. Anything but a tailwind absolutely sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Geo Guy
    Layers layers layers ... the cold doesn't bother me as much as the wind. Anything but a tailwind absolutely sucks.
    A good softshell jacket and rain pants, and the wind isn't cold anymore. Still sucks, but it isn't cold.

    I had my first frozen goatee of the season this morning. It was 20-something. Almost time to bust out the 'clava...

    Does anyone else hold out on their warmest layers so that when it gets REALLY cold they will have something else to put on? I play this mental game. I'm still wearing shorts and my pearl izumi leg warmers under my rain/wind pants....and my sub-zero tights are waiting on a shelf for that day when the cold starts to intimidate me. I haven't busted out the neoprene socks yet either. They are my next line of defense.
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    I got my first taste of riding with snow on the ground on my way home from work today. What I realized is that I seriously doubt that I'm going to be able to ride on days when there are ice or snow on the ground. Below is the elevation profile of my commute.


    I figured out today that regardless of how good my tires and brakes are, snow coverd/icy steep hills can be dangerous. I haven't given up for the winter, but I will be driving on days there are a chance of snow or ice being on the ground.

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    if there's lots of snow one could cross train and cross country ski to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalitup
    backpacks are for junior high kids

    This is the only part of your post that I totally disagree with. I've always preferred carrying things on my person rather than lashed, strapped, or clamped on to the bike. I cringe when I have to put the fenders on for the winter, but they're so functional, I deal with it. This is a total personal preference issue. I think a backpack keeps me a bit warmer in the sub-zero mornings too.

    Maybe if I wore my work clothes on the bike I'd have a different opinion, I don't know. I change at work and wear full-on bike gear and a backpack with the essentials for the commute. I don't even put a seat pouch on my bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    This is the only part of your post that I totally disagree with. I've always preferred carrying things on my person rather than lashed, strapped, or clamped on to the bike. I cringe when I have to put the fenders on for the winter, but they're so functional, I deal with it. This is a total personal preference issue. I think a backpack keeps me a bit warmer in the sub-zero mornings too.

    Maybe if I wore my work clothes on the bike I'd have a different opinion, I don't know. I change at work and wear full-on bike gear and a backpack with the essentials for the commute. I don't even put a seat pouch on my bikes.
    and at the time I designed clothing and accessories
    I designed a back pack with:
    easy access cell phone pouch
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    definitely better than panniers

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    eh, commuting in harsh Wisconsin winters is the same to me as commuting in good weather. Just use layers, the right gear, studded tires if you have to ride on ice, and you're set.
    Last year I hit a milbox with my face for slipping on ice in the dark commute to work. Broke my glasses and helmet. But I still rode.
    Today, cold and windy...and about to leave. Later fools.

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    thats because people from Wisconsin are immune to hell freezing over

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernesto_from_Wisconsin
    eh, commuting in harsh Wisconsin winters is the same to me as commuting in good weather. Just use layers, the right gear, studded tires if you have to ride on ice, and you're set.
    Last year I hit a milbox with my face for slipping on ice in the dark commute to work. Broke my glasses and helmet. But I still rode.
    Today, cold and windy...and about to leave. Later fools.

    Wait...you hit a mailbox with your face, and we're the fools?
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    I currently am switching commuters. I'm migrating over from my old 1989 Fisher AL-1 to a Trek 4900 that I picked up off Craigslist. However, I'm not terribly thrilled with the Trek yet. I do like the fact that the ride is more plush than the Fisher but it just has a different feel. I'm not sure I like it.

    So, I've been thinking of buying a second set of wheels to put on my dirt bike - Trek 8000 - to make it into a road bike. This would also require putting a rack on it but I think with the units available at oldmanmountain.com I could come up with a pretty sweet quick conversion.

    However, I was wondering just how much damage my dirt bike would take being used as a commuter. My current commuter has a full coverage rear fender which keeps my chain pretty clean but I wouldn't be able to do that on the dirt bike.

    What do you think? Should I keep 2 dedicated bikes or try to make a dual-duty machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    This is the only part of your post that I totally disagree with. I've always preferred carrying things on my person rather than lashed, strapped, or clamped on to the bike. I cringe when I have to put the fenders on for the winter, but they're so functional, I deal with it. This is a total personal preference issue. I think a backpack keeps me a bit warmer in the sub-zero mornings too.

    Maybe if I wore my work clothes on the bike I'd have a different opinion, I don't know. I change at work and wear full-on bike gear and a backpack with the essentials for the commute. I don't even put a seat pouch on my bikes.
    Hrm...I hate riding with a backpack. I have a rack and panniers so I can carry a thermos of coffee, clothes, tools, spare tube and other junk. It's just so easy to use the Ortlieb bags...they drop on and off with ease and they are completely waterproof. I also hang my lock on my rear rack...much more secure than the clamp it came with.

    I do miss having a light bike...my frame and wheels are very light but throwing 20 pounds on it does take the life out of it.

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    It's was about -15 celsius with a couple inches of snow here last week but still riding in shorts with a cheap pair of tights, long sleeve jersey sweatshirt and soft shell. I was forced to break out the balaclava for a couple days though. I heldout on installing the studded tires until last weekend. We had freezing rain one morning and I slid about 20 feet on my ass while holding my bike up in the air. No road rash when it's icy at least!

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    I think the best commuter bikes would be like your basic bike that doesnt have any valuable components or quick releases. that way nobody steals stuff off of it while it is locked up. a friend of mine commutes on a bike made entirely by dumpster diving. thats the key... no money invested.

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    I had ice crystals forming on my balaclava earlier last week. Good times.

    Being racked by a massive cold though, hopefully I'll be better tomorrow or else I need to take the cage to work on Tuesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweezak

    What do you think? Should I keep 2 dedicated bikes or try to make a dual-duty machine?
    It really depends on your budget and how much storage for bikes you might have. I really prefer to have a dedicated off-road bike built for fast single-track riding. My other bikes are all variants between commuter and limited off road capability, mostly due to tire choice and full coverage fenders which bounce around a little too much for trail riding.

    As someone else was saying, I had dreamed of building a dumpster diving bike but when I did, I found that I just didn't enjoy riding it as much. You'll notice earlier in the thread I posted my Karate Monkey commuter, it is a fine machine which rides great, but is subtle being all black and without stickers. I lock up both wheels and don't have QR. I use a U-lock with a cable loop and don't usually leave it locked up for more than a few hours at a time and never at night. I don't worry about it at all.
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    where does she get her advice from??

    I wonder if she shops at rei? As for theft check out the wheels.
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    I cycled 120 km`s to work yesterday, even though the shortest route is only 17km`s.





    The La Cruz, is just perfect for winter commuting....
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    23 Degrees ferenheit this morning. I think that's the coldest so far this year...makes me think about the single digits to come... I haven't broken out the balaclava yet, but I made the mistake of shaving this morning. Wow that was chilly on the old cheeks.
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    Worst yet has been an 8 degree morning. This AM was a fun ride. Ride home could be a doozy though.

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    Foggy as all hell this morning. Maybe I'm crazy, but I actually relish it. Born and bred in the Bay Area, I can't live without my fog!
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    lubed my chain yesterday for the 1st time in a while. First day it was dry enough for me to hear the chitter-chatter of the rust instead of only hearing the rain rain rain rain rain. Right after I lubed, the rain was back for some pm errands but it was still pretty smooth this (dry) morning.

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    23 here on my way home too.

    The balaclava is out already, but It looks like I have to invest in some thicker wooly socks. My feet get it the worst.

    Look on the bright side fellas...... Only another 4 months before we can loose our thermal undies....
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    starting to think about faster tires instead of fatter... get me out of the cold quicker! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by fux
    23 here on my way home too.

    The balaclava is out already, but It looks like I have to invest in some thicker wooly socks. My feet get it the worst.
    Try these. They are completely windproof...and they WERE waterproof for the first season or two. After 3 years the water sneaks in, but they are very warm and windproof:

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/144...nder-Socks.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    That is hawt. I'm really liking the look. What bars are those?
    These are the Origin 8 Gary bars. I'll post a photo with the studded tires soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    Try these. They are completely windproof...and they WERE waterproof for the first season or two. After 3 years the water sneaks in, but they are very warm and windproof:

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/144...nder-Socks.htm

    Thanks for the link, I`ll give them a try.
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    Winter commuting has officially started here in Wisconsin. Biked in the snow on Wednesday and it is one degree out this morning. Ugh...

    Bought myself a set of fenders for the bike and front/rear flashing lights as normally I only bike when there is no snow. The past two years I've walked during the winter as I only live about 1.5 miles from work. I'm trying to see if I can make it through the winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by fux
    Thanks for the link, I`ll give them a try.

    No problem. They took a little getting used to...I wear them over my regular socks so I don't have to wash them as often, and I put them on before my leg warmers or tights, so the cuff of the leg warmers/tights holds the top of the sock up...they don't have an elastic top like most socks. Hecka warm though. No more freezing ankles/feet.
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    I'm planning on returning to bike commuting in a week or 2, haven't been on the bike since I broke my ankle in late September (a sloppy attempt at slowing down on a steep descent). Had the screw removed Thursday, it's still really swollen, today was the first time I've been able to put a work boot on it. Have to go for some physio, but I think pedalling a bike should be good for it. Just have to get back in shape on the trainer for a week or 2.

    I had big plans to get a fixed gear commuter ready for this winter, but... I found it so difficult hobbling around with the cast that I just didn't feel like doing stuff. So it'll be the Nishiki touring bike most of the time with the old Norco Katmandu with studs for the snowy/icey days. I don't enjoy the slow draggy ride with the studded tires, but I like the quick transition from being vertical to horizontal when on the ice even less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fux
    I cycled 120 km`s to work yesterday, even though the shortest route is only 17km`s.





    The La Cruz, is just perfect for winter commuting....
    What light are you using there?????

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    I'm in!

    Just went for a 5 mile test ride in 10*F:
    Planet Bike Fenders, Titec Jones bars, Nexus 8 with drum brake, Kenda Small Block 8, Surly Rack, fork & chainring,
    Pearl Izumi Lobsters are too hot unless it's below 15*F, Shimano shoes are great.
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    ^^ nice. I'm asking Santa for some of those gloves...tired of the tingly fingers.


    Did anyone else pick up the latest copy of Bicycling magazine? There's a cover story on "Winter Riding Basics". I got excited and opened to the article, called "Winter Riding 101" in the table of contents....it's a one page description of how to work on your pedaling form using rollers, since you can't actually ride outside during the winter

    I guess we're a different breed.
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    Re: tingly fingers

    Have used the lobsters and salsa tostada's but really prefer plain old wool mittens. Now if my wife would make me some new ones!
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    I bought a Giro ski/snowboard helmet (Nine.9?) two winters ago, and it has been great for the winter ride. It has plugs that you can take in and out, and it fits over my PI microsensor balaclava.

    2nd the softshell recommendation, I have an LL Bean version, it's the best winter "active" jacket I've ever owned.

    I think i need to try some winter bibs, as my current method of layering cycling shorts/long underwear and Illuminite pants is a pain in the butt.

    Lake MXZ300 boots and some of the medium weight Pearl Izumi Lobster mitts. My commute is about 8-9 miles each way, and unless it's really really cold, my toes usually stay pretty warm.

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    Crikey, looking at those pictures makes me feel chilly. It's a barmey -1ºC here at the moment, but my feet still get cold with in the breeze.

    Damn this global warming!

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    Instantly Longer Lashes

    Thought it was supposed to be 15-20 this AM oops. Zero.
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    Finally had snow here last week. Changed my route around to include more bike paths to keep out of the path of the cars on one of the major roads here.

    Studded tires = awesome. It's above freezing today so I almost didn't know how to dress. I've been real happy with my setup of Craft Storm Tights, ProZero / ProWarm baselayers, jerseys and shells. I have a set of the PI Barrier GTX Boots and they are amazing. Had to order a full size up though to fit 2 socks. I love toasty feet. I haven't had a chilly / numb ride yet, and we hit 6 degrees earlier this week.

    40 tomorrow though ... almost time to break out the shorts!
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    That is one sweet KM! I have a blacked out KM myself but am still trying to figure out how to fit some wooden fenders (custom from JeffTrek). I run V brakes and big tires so clearance is an issue. I just may have to go to skinner slicks for the winter.

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    Great pics! I need to get off my ass and start riding!

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    What light are you using there?????
    Its just a cheap led. More of a be seen than see light.
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    Well... I have 2 finals tomorrow..... and a high of 21 degrees.... which will be while indoors taking test... should be a fun day!

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    I biked to work in a couple of inches of snow on Thursday of last week. It snowed all that day while I was at work so I ended up riding home in about 4 inches of snow. My commute to and from work is about 90% trails, so the snow just builds up without being plowed. I ended up driving to work on Friday because navigating through the snow on Thursday wasn't all that fun (and probably not very safe). I'm still waiting for some of the snow and ice to melt so that I can begin commuting again. Had anyone asked me about six months ago if I thought that I'd be riding my bike in sub-freezing temperatures, the answer would have been an emphatic: "No way!"

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    Chickened out today.. saw the -13 degrees and decided to drive! 14 miles each way is cold in those temps

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    Sun showers the whole way to work this morning! It was beautiful.

    Spent the weekend in South Lake Tahoe. As always, lots of bikes on the road but no one was running studded tires. There was plenty of snow and ice on the road to justify their use. *SHRUG*
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    I had to take my first driving day of the winter today...10 inches of "partly cloudy" on the roads/bike lanes, and I was in 4WD all the way to work. It's still dumping outside, and we're under a 'winter storm warning' until 10:00 tonight. I feel justified in not biking when I have to keep it in 4WD for the entire trip.

    I'm up north of tahoe, and we're getting hammered... you got out of south lake just in time. It hit hard last night at about 7:00.

    If those plow guys hit the bike lanes today (instead of piling up the snow IN the bike lanes) I'll be riding tomorrow, but it's not looking too promising. I'll ride as soon as I see pavement.

    but hey, White Christmas!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    I had to take my first driving day of the winter today...10 inches of "partly cloudy" on the roads/bike lanes, and I was in 4WD all the way to work. It's still dumping outside, and we're under a 'winter storm warning' until 10:00 tonight. I feel justified in not biking when I have to keep it in 4WD for the entire trip.

    I'm up north of tahoe, and we're getting hammered... you got out of south lake just in time. It hit hard last night at about 7:00.

    If those plow guys hit the bike lanes today (instead of piling up the snow IN the bike lanes) I'll be riding tomorrow, but it's not looking too promising. I'll ride as soon as I see pavement.

    but hey, White Christmas!!

    Send that snow this way I want more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    I'm up north of tahoe, and we're getting hammered... you got out of south lake just in time. It hit hard last night at about 7:00.
    That's what I hear! We had to use chains going over the summit on 50 yesterday. If it's any consolation, I am extremely envious of the fact that you live up there! Here in the Bay Area we get about 7 different seasons a year, none of which include snow. Though I'm sure that if I lived up there I'd get tired of the snow after a couple of years like everyone else.
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    Don't get me wrong, I love it... looking forward to a good snowboard season. I just wish the plow guys realized that somebody wants those bike lanes clear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    Don't get me wrong, I love it... looking forward to a good snowboard season. I just wish the plow guys realized that somebody wants those bike lanes clear...
    I guess they figure you'd rather add some excitement to your commute by riding out in the street with the guys who spin out because they can't figure out how to drive on wet roads?
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    Got some snow today. Should be interesting in the morning on the SS




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    24F yesterday, 19F today. Yesterday I was a little warm, so I just wore the same stuff plus an extra pair of socks today and it worked fine. The only chink in the armor is that I haven't been able to find my glove liners since last time I used them a year or so ago. A 2nd layer on my hands would have been perfect today.

    I'm surprised I haven't needed my facemask or a scarf, but I've been carrying both.

    I'm still glad I got proactive about yesterday because otherwise, for one reason or another (bravado) if someone just told me '20s' I'd probably have underdressed and it turns out overdressing feels a lot better even if I am a bit sweatier when I get to work.

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    Well the storm has passed and the temps have plummeted.... for tomorrow the roads are looking do-able, but it's supposed to be 4 degrees F in the morning. This morning (I drove again) it was 6. 4 or less would be a record for me, I've done 7/8 degrees a couple of times over the last couple of winters. Below the teens, it doesn't really seem to matter...after that it's just plain cold.

    I'll probably take the mountain bike, since I still have slicks on the cyclocross, and I'm not sure I want to be going that fast anyway.... windchill and ice make me want to go slow.
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    It was -3º this morning, new personal best.

    Arrived to work toasty warm, but forgot to have breakfast so it was a sloooooooooooow ride. Rode home this afternoon and it's right about 10º or so. Lot warmer, snowing too - fresh coat of powder on all the paths. You know how your wheels like to dig into packed snow and it's like you are sliding on sand?

    I'm not lying, it's so much fun. Lots of hip action. Thank goodness for studded tires!
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    28º this morning, only 1º over my personal best.
    Nice ride, just cold, no rain. But packing all that layered clothing into the backpack for the ride home sucks!

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    I feel twice yesterday because I hit ice patches. I didn't do any serious damage, but I drove today and will wait until all the ice on the ground melts before riding in again. It is supposed to snow for the next three days so I may not get much more riding in this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    windchill and ice make me want to go slow.
    How slow is slow? I've been trying to winter bike and come to grips with how poorly the human and bike machine perform in cold temps...I rode on Monday and it was a about 5 below 0 F and it was brutal...layers upon layers aside it took maximum effort to spin at 50 to 60 rpm. My legs never warm up to peak performance efficiency even though I'm trying to push myself. the same route that takes 35 minutes (15 mph avg) during spring summer and fall is now somewhere in the one hour to one hour ten minute range (7mph avg)...I've been told that it's probably the lube in the BB/cranks/hubs that run like molasses...I have stock lube in everything--should I get my friction points reworked with a more winter friendly lube or am I the weak link in the chain here?

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    ^^ That seems slow. I slow down in the cold mostly on purpose, and only slightly because of improper leg function.... do you have a completely windproof layer on top? I wear rain pants on top of everything, because they're totally windproof. Them and my wind/waterproof softshell jacket on top, and then I'm thinking only about my face, hands, and feet.


    I'm bummed, I didn't get to take to the cold this morning...it would have been a record. It was 2 below zero at my house (thats minus 19 Celsius), but the radio said that the valley I have to go through to get to work was at -12 (minus 24.4 Celsius). The roads are still packed ice, but at those temps the ice isn't as slippery..there's absolutely no melting going on, so it doesn't get that shiny, slippery layer on top. BUT the bike lanes are non-existant still, and I have 5 miles of two-lane highway between home and work...you'd basically be riding in the passenger-side tire track on ice, with cars coming up behind you. No thanks. My wife was relieved at my sanity in making the decision to drive today. I really wanted to do a below-zero commute though. Maybe later in the winter (it's not even winter yet!!).
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    My head, hands, feet...are fine...my layers are:

    full face plus a wool beanie on the head

    two dri-fit shirts, fleece vest, REI Novarra jacket on top

    winter boots, wool socks, pace fleece lined tights, fleece lined leg warmers, 30 mph wind proof pants on the lower...

    I do break a light sweat when riding in that cold, but not enough to get chilled when I stop...WTF?

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    lol.....where are the heated, enclosed, bike paths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalayon
    lol.....where are the heated, enclosed, bike paths?
    rumor has it, those are coming after the innauguration...

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    Been bike commuting year-round now for 6-7 years. I have a short commute, mostly on bike trails. We see temps of 0 degrees F now and then, but usually around 20 in the winter. My line is bookended by 2 steep hills which are a hoot in the snow.

    Last year after a huge dump (of snow), I tried to take my old Wagoneer to work, but after getting all cold and pissed off while trying to scrape and thaw it, I gave up and rode to work anyway.

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    We had a very strong storm dump a record amount of snow on us. We went from zero to about 22 inches before it was over. I shot some video on my Friday commute to/from work, if anyone's interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfG1kjwVgi4

    This was at about 10°F. As you can see in the video, my route was plowed pretty well, I just had to be careful of the "cookie dough" snow near intersections.

    The next storm is supposed to arrive in about four hours and dump another 4-10 inches of snow.

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    -24 celsius (-11 F) and -32 (-24 F) with the wind chill for the ride on friday morning. Damn were my feet cold. Gotta figure a new footwear situation for days like that. Then we got 3-4 inches of snow before the ride home. Normally I would have just driven on a day like that but everyone at the office had been bugging me (jokingly) about not riding this week. Other than the cold feet though it was definitely doable again. Not today though... It's -35 and -46 celsius with the wind chill today. This is ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitka999
    -24 celsius (-11 F) and -32 (-24 F) with the wind chill for the ride on friday morning. Damn were my feet cold. Gotta figure a new footwear situation for days like that. Then we got 3-4 inches of snow before the ride home. Normally I would have just driven on a day like that but everyone at the office had been bugging me (jokingly) about not riding this week. Other than the cold feet though it was definitely doable again. Not today though... It's -35 and -46 celsius with the wind chill today. This is ridiculous!
    Maybe you should splurge on some SIDI Toasters, the electrically-heated shoe insoles. I know I want some.

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    For reasons I'll explain later, my bike is currently in pieces so until the part I need arrives I've begun riding my girlfriend's bike to work. I hurriedly put my old fenders on it before leaving the house this afternoon because it started to pour, but I couldn't put the front one on because my hardware won't fit through the hole on the front fork boss. I never knew how much I'd miss having a front fender while flying down hill until the front wheel began kicking road slop up into my face. Oh well, it's just water.... and dirt.... and oil and.....
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    So your hardware doesn't fit your GF's hole?

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    So your hardware doesn't fit your GF's hole?
    No no, my "hardware" fits her "hole" just fine. It's the bike that I'm worried about.
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    Props to you who keep it going in the snow. I don't have studded tires... yet. While I've ridden down to about 17 degrees this year, it was without any real snow. Now (in SE Wis) we're getting hammered with snow and now have sub-zero F temps to deal with. And considering how greasy the snow feels in a car with snow tires, I'm not too eager to get the bike out. But I might get out on the 29er for kicks around the neighborhood.

    Anyone have any snow/ice tire recommendations?

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    For 29ers, I like Exiwolfs, and some friends of mine like Weirwolfs. I started this winter on Stouts, but they didn't do as well when things get icy, plus they are SLOW rolling.

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    Thanks. I've got Exis and 1 WW (front). I've got Racing Ralphs on it now.. might give those a shot first. We're getting more snow today. Gotta see if I can get a quick ride in for kicks.

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    Let us know how the Racing Ralphs work. This has been a good year for snow riding!

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    Ok, will do.

    Daughter is about to go out for her first XC ski experience in the driveway... I'll head out for a quick ride.

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    Ralphs were great! The only squirrely moments were crossing somewhat parallel car tire tracks. In untracked 4 inches of powder, no real issues to speak of, and they were great on the packed stuff. You just need to remember you're on snow and sort of treat it like deep-ish sand. You're not going to be able to lean the bike over at all, but I'd give the Ralph's a big thumbs up over my cross tires in these conditions.

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    We're having a bit of a heat wave in NorCal...23 or so in the mornings this week, and mid 40's on the way home. I did shorts and a t-shirt yesterday going home. Kind of weird for January. The ice on my dirt road is patchy enough now that I can dodge most of it. I'm sure we'll get another arctic blast soon though...
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    It's a sweltering 72F here in the Bay. Then again, we usually get a week or two of this kind of weather every January or February.
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    was 75 degrees

    at 9:20 AM here in San Diego. Over 80 mid day
    Shorts and Short sleeves, cool and clear in the evenings
    Gotta love a winter high pressure

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    I know! And I just now busted out the winter gloves. Oh well, probably need them again in another couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerdave
    Ralphs were great! The only squirrely moments were crossing somewhat parallel car tire tracks. In untracked 4 inches of powder, no real issues to speak of, and they were great on the packed stuff. You just need to remember you're on snow and sort of treat it like deep-ish sand. You're not going to be able to lean the bike over at all, but I'd give the Ralph's a big thumbs up over my cross tires in these conditions.
    I agree, Ralphs are great in the snow (2.4 up front and 2.25 in the rear on my Dos Niner). I just did a 10 mile ride on 3 - 4 inches of new snow on the streets and country gravel roads on my way into work. -13 plus a windchill that is down in the -20 to -30 range. Brrrrr.....my fingers were not doing so well after the first 20 minutes (in spite of being warm everywhere else). Tomorrow is supposed to be even colder and more wind. But the Ralphs make a nice wide tire with grip in the cold snow and ice. Had to ride slower today with the new snowfall, but it was a good commute workout akin to muscle endurance intervals. I've got Avid mechanical brakes that work fine in these temps, but I wonder if hydro's would work as well?

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    ^^ I rode my mtb a few times last winter in low single digits (fahrenheit)...it's got Hayes hydraulic discs on it, and I had no problems at all with them. Didn't even think to worry that the cold might affect them.
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    Hey everyone, been commuting since the 1st, ride is only a mile so not that bad at all, have had some cold days here in south dakota. The coldest so far has been -5f or something like that, but I just bundle up and get to it. I have been having a blast at the looks I get from everyone.

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    Anyone else enjoying the weather?

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/paranoidbadger/3198862529/" title="Cold is just a state of mind. by G e o cycle, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3198862529_d383a5af89.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="Cold is just a state of mind." /></a>
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    Check out that icicle on your mask... amazing. I'm in WI too and I wasn't as bold as you. Way to go.

    How were the road conditions? It's been very icy here... salted snow that starts to melt and then re-freezes. It's less about the cold that's keeping me off the bike than it is the icy roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerdave
    Check out that icicle on your mask... amazing. I'm in WI too and I wasn't as bold as you. Way to go.

    How were the road conditions? It's been very icy here... salted snow that starts to melt and then re-freezes. It's less about the cold that's keeping me off the bike than it is the icy roads.
    Most of my commute I take the local bike paths in Madison - I don't feel like tangling with the cars and the ice ruts on the edges of the bike lanes. They are alright, but it's much better to be safe than sorry.

    The bike paths all have a sweet layer of condensed snow, none of it can melt either so it's great for traction w/the studded tires. I prefer it to tarmac personally!

    The icicle was almost 3" long too ... hehe.
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    Thanks for the reply. Yeah, bike paths with compacted snow make for good traction. When i lived in Boston I did that year round and it was fine. But like you, right now I have all country roads with either ice and/or ruts on the shoulder and don't trust them or the cars right now when it's like this. I've seen about four 4WD vehicles either jammed in snowbanks or upside down in the past 3 days. I don't want to be on my bike when those clowns are around.

    Big props for creating that icicle.

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    Looks like high 30s near 40 by the end of the week.

    Finally ... a reprieve.
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    yes... finally at least a brief break from the snow-covered roads. They were ok over the weekend, but there was enough to be annoying today.

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    Not realy that cold at -2C but new snow on ice is a pain to ride on. I used almost 2 hours when I normaly use 45 mins. I was late.
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    I made a colossal misjudgement in temperature this morning.

    It snowed maybe 2 inches last night before bed, so I got it stuck in my head that it would freeze up, and I would ride the (fender-less) mountian bike in the morning, for added traction in whatever minimal snow was in the bike lanes. I have slicks on the commuter still, so I've been going back and forth all winter when snow is an issue.

    So I jump on the mountain bike this morning and find out that after that snow last night, it warmed up about 5 degrees...it was a sloppy, wet mess. All of that red gravel that they put on the road when it's icy turns into a perfect new layer of road slop for my front tire to throw at me all the way to town... I was cursing myself for 6 miles for not grabbing the bike with fenders. It's amazing how incredibly filthy you get without fenders. An inch and a half width of plastic saves you SOOOOO much grief. My jacket, pants, and backpack are now equipped with a reddish-brown racing stripe, and my mountain bike, which was totally dialed in, looks like it's been buried in the silt beneath a river for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    ...So I jump on the mountain bike this morning and find out that after that snow last night, it warmed up about 5 degrees...it was a sloppy, wet mess. All of that red gravel that they put on the road when it's icy turns into a perfect new layer of road slop for my front tire to throw at me all the way to town... I was cursing myself for 6 miles for not grabbing the bike with fenders. It's amazing how incredibly filthy you get without fenders. An inch and a half width of plastic saves you SOOOOO much grief. My jacket, pants, and backpack are now equipped with a reddish-brown racing stripe, and my mountain bike, which was totally dialed in, looks like it's been buried in the silt beneath a river for a few years.

    Heh... I had something like that last week. Cold am but 50F pm, bombing through 4" of slush for 7 miles home. It wasn't just a racing stripe for me, I was thoroughly soaked top-to-bottom front-to-back and left-to-right. It was even worse 'cause it wasn't just a no fender bike, it was a bike I had snapped the fenders off of.

    I snapped them back on while I was doing the laundry when I got home.

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    More frostbite

    Earlier this winter I began running platform pedals on my communter bike, because my feet would freeze if I used my eggbeaters in below zero temperatures. Recently the temps have been in the 20-30s (F), so I put the eggbeaters back on this morning.

    Pedaling rough sections and fast cadence is more enjoyable, but after three hours at 15F and brisk winds my toes on both feet developed some minor frostbite. Now my feetitch like hell.

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    Anybody Ride home tonight, About 25 degrees and dropping as it just snow a wet snow that was freezing as it hit the roads,

    I'm still smiling about ride home tonite. I only fell once. Damn Black Ice. I faired better than the Tahoe in the ditch with the smashed front end tonight in barrington on Ela Road. As I pull up the Police has all traffic stopped as a tow truck is pulling the tahoe out. The Cop turned around and saw me and said "go Ahead You can go Thru". I thanked him and pedaled on my merry way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlh
    Pedaling rough sections and fast cadence is more enjoyable, but after three hours at 15F and brisk winds my toes on both feet developed some minor frostbite. Now my feetitch like hell.
    15 degrees takes on a whole new perspective when you're out there for three hours. Dang! How long is your ride?

    On a bad day my ride is 30 minutes, tops. I have had some numb toes on single-digit days, but never had to think about frostbite. Do you have shoe covers, neoprene socks...both?
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    My Commute is an hour on a good day. Last Nights was hour 15

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    45 minutes for me... I got a pair of Lake winter boots many years ago. They're build well, so they've held up great. Best winter purchase i've made and totally worth it. Add some mid-weight wool socks and the feet stay pretty toasty.

    I also got some el cheapo ATV bar/moose/handlebar mitts. 20 bucks from Cabelas. They're also sweet on cold days. Goodbye cold hands.

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    I only have a 6 km commute so the cold is never the problem for me...
    i rode to work at -22C and was still very warm at the core (wasn't
    even a winter jacket)...when i go on longer rides, the toes
    and fingers get a bit cold. I do not believe in the single-gear theory,
    as i have never had a problem, i even once had an inch of frozen rain
    on it an was still able to shift gears after a little shake.I do keep
    the bike REALLY well oiled (each ride a must), as the calcium will
    quickly make all drivetrain a frozen rusty mess.

    My winter bikes: -a mountain bike with wide tires and large grooves to
    clear the snow.this is the snow bike, with my light weight, i can float
    over hard snow! -a hybrid with studded front and a rear rack with a
    plastic milk box(yes, looks like i am the poorest guy in my
    street, lol).For icy conditions.
    Both with mudgards, lights and spd clips, also mirrors a must.

    My biggest problem is that my goggles steam up...(any advice pls...)
    Rain is also worst than cold to me....

    It's NOT for everyone, requires some skill, but it's so much fun!!!

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    I don't know if you've heard about the storm that just hit the Lake Tahoe area, but holy crap. I'm off the bike for at least a couple days. Haven't figured out how to ride when the snow in the bike lane is over the top of the handlebars. Any tips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    I don't know if you've heard about the storm that just hit the Lake Tahoe area, but holy crap. I'm off the bike for at least a couple days. Haven't figured out how to ride when the snow in the bike lane is over the top of the handlebars. Any tips?
    Would this help?

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    That. Is. Awesome.
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    Take the lane? What type of roads are they?

    In other news, more snow today, just when I thought we were done. not really sticking, though.

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    ahhhhhh almost 50 degrees in West Michigan this morning! it was glorious!
    Winter is coming.

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    Well the plows finally hit the bike lanes some, so I got back on the bike today...there was a dusting last night, and it was really cold today, which made for a strange condition I haven't seen before... the fine powder that was on the road was getting sucked up between the tire and front fender like water does, but it was forming this weird cloud just in front of the fender (like where the water from a rainstorm would spit out). It was showing me exactly how far forward I would have to extend my fender in order to provide complete coverage depending on speed...it was like wind tunnel testing. If I sped up a bit, I could push the cloud an inch or two forward, and if I slowed down, I could get it to recede back under the front of the fender. I was staring at it so intently I almost crashed
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    Back down to -20C for the ride in today, and up to -4C in time for the ride home. That is two entirely different outfits. Last year at this time I was doing road rides in shorts and a jersey. WTF!

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    40s and 50s here now ... I'm so happy I could cry. Mother Nature broke me ... I'm riding out of spite now.
    Moving the soul with two wheels.
    I have a slight cycling addiction.

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    I had to dig deep for some inspiration tonight. Usually I can just think "I'm training" and that is that, but I'm not training for anything this year. So as I rode into a 20 mph headwind in -2 degrees for about 5 miles I thought about these guys riding the iditarod trail right now and it made me feel a little better. Maybe they can help you as well. NB http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=496492

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    Snows gone!

    Time to give her a wash and brush....

    I had to swap the stem after the salsa re-call though



    Have to say that the salsa has pulled through the winter like a champ! I`m not taking of the studded tyres though for a couple more weeks as its still icey in the mornings.
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    Now that the snow is on the retreat, you can see why i wanted a CX for a commuter...





    Looks like the worst is over.
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    Great pics, as always fux. Thanks for sharing!
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    Thanks. Not the best of pictures my mobile phone hasnt got a great camera. Here are the others I took on the way to work.

    I was "greeted" by a couple of jack russels when I went through a farm.



    My puls is higher than I like on longer trips but the gravel is hard to ride on when its as wet as it now because of the melting snow.





    Its not long until I kan fit some fast cx tyres. Can`t wait!
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    Well, it's the first day of spring. Thanks for the support this winter folks . Fittingly, yesterdy I was able to ride home in shorts and short sleeves. It was back down to 30 for the ride to work this morning, but that feels like a heat wave after the February that we had around here. Won't be long before the fenders are coming off and the windproof softshell can stay home in the closet.

    It's always weird when you relize that two weeks ago, you were driving to work in 4wd because the road was hard to locate under all that snow, and now you're riding home in shorts...aahhh, spring in the mountains.
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    A thunderstorm is supposed to blast through here this weekend and I was planning a ride. Oh well, we do need all of the rain we can get.
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    Today I took the car to work!

    Finished early and got 3 hours of riding on my local trails.





    What a great feeling, getting back out in the good spots...... AND even fitter than last year. Commuting certainly helps.

    See you on the winter commuter thread next year folks. Now its playtime
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    Look at all of that slick rock. Awesome!
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