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    Any thoughts on the best value in snow/ slush fenders to mount over 29er Nicotines?

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    This will make sense mostly to Canadians:


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    ^^ Pretty funny here in VT too.

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    Newf, I shared that with our VT Bikecommuters on FB, and one guy not only grew up watching the show in Canada, but said that is his buddy Dale in Halifax! Small world.

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    ^ that's pretty funny. Does VT get CBC on TV? This is a riff on what's basically an "iconic" bunch of short little nature documentaries that were unavoidable in the 80s: https://m.youtube.com/results?q=hint...27s%20who&sm=1

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    ^^ Not sure, as I cancelled my sat TV a month ago and can't get sh*t without it. I know the Canadian stations are popular for watching the Olympics, but can't recall if that is CBC or ???

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    13-1/2 lbs of clothes and gear, that's how much I was wearing last night when I left here. We haven't even got to the fun part of winter riding and I'm already pretty sick of the layering.

    Video shared on our local commuter FB page too.

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    ^ 13 pounds, I refuse to put my kit on a scale, it had never occurred to me that it could be so much weight. Still, I have a pair of work pants and a pair of long underwear which refuse to work together. The conflict seems to provide warmth all day except at the waist and ankles.

    Still working out the Unit, this solution came to me while eating a sandwich. It works pretty well and draws more commentary than my custom cherry fenders on the other bike.
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    Are you using a Tupperware lid as a fender?
    The pedals turn, not just the left one, but the right one too.

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    Disposable Tupperware at that, yes I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    ^ 13 pounds, I refuse to put my kit on a scale, it had never occurred to me that it could be so much weight. Still, I have a pair of work pants and a pair of long underwear which refuse to work together. The conflict seems to provide warmth all day except at the waist and ankles.

    Still working out the Unit, this solution came to me while eating a sandwich. It works pretty well and draws more commentary than my custom cherry fenders on the other bike.
    I was changing into my mountain of gear on a cold day and the scale was right there so I jump on before and after.

    Nice fender. I did use a 2 liter coke bottle at one point which worked pretty good. I may have to rummage through the Tupperware cupboard to find something for the fatbike.

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    Read an article from Mark Manson that included the advice "Everything sucks at some point." Probably explains how I feel when the January weather is nice but I'm too sick to ride (safely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forster View Post
    Read an article from Mark Manson that included the advice "Everything sucks at some point." Probably explains how I feel when the January weather is nice but I'm too sick to ride (safely).
    That's how I feel crossing the Mississippi river on days that are 17F when I'm riding in to work.

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    I am 99.9% sure I have lost my favorite gloves. REI had these really nice gloves on clearance so I picked them up for like $37 or something like that. Was unsure of them at first, but the more I used them, the more I liked them. They had a pull tab that will allow you to tighten them at the wrists even wearing gloves. Windproof and waterproof, and they had a huge reflective strip across the top of them, perfect for winter night riding. The first two fingers were free, but then the other two were together, so almost like a half lobster glove. They are not in my apartment, not in my car, not at work, not in my bag. I think I dropped them taking the trash out one day as I was headed to work. I cannot remember if I grabbed them before I left or not.

    I checked REI's website, and they have them, in a small only. This really really sucks. I have a pair of North Face gloves, but to be honest, they are just alright. Windproof and waterproof as well, but they just are not the same as the others.
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    ^^Nice! Did you launch and land outside the frame?

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    So this week the Winter Cities Shake-Up Conference is in town: WINTER CITIES SHAKE-UP 2015

    I'm not involved in it in anyway, but it's supposed to be about encouraging people to not hide from winter. (and oddly we've had almost a month of very warm temps, but that's just about to end this weekend)

    As part of the conference Mikael Colville Andersen (the copenhagenize.com guy) is in town, and this morning he did a segment on the local AM-talk station.

    And it was...good?

    You can hunt for it Audio Vault | 630 CHED Edmonton News on Jan28/9AM starting at around the 38 minute mark.

    I don't think of this station as being particularly reasonable or well-balanced, but it was much less crazy than I was expecting.

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    And now you know why Bicycle Trials isn't a winter sport. great pic.

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    Thankfully I have Saturday off, because the forecast high is 1F. The lows are not as bad as we've seen already, but still, that's demoralizing!

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    Funny how cold is not imperical. I have been logging all week in colder temps, and tonight's ride overheated the core and under-heated the hands when I had been working without gloves yesterday.

    My "wonderful cheap goggles" that are okay at 19f, fogged at every intersection even with a liberal application of cat crap, switched to safety glasses and all was fine if a little breezy, at about 30f. The grocery and booze run the other night was much warmer and less troublesome at five degrees colder with no sleet, in the same kit over comparable distance and hills.

    I guess I'll figure this all out about the time I'm ready to move to Mombassa or Port Au Prince.

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    Still having trouble with gloves. But now it is a different problem.

    I found some ski gloves at the local outdoor store that work well at 10f or so, but they work too well in the second half of my commute (uphill). They are damp and ineffective on the ride home, even with fresh wool liners in them.

    Anyone found a good way to dry gloves in a room with no useable heat ducts or electrical outlets?

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    ^^Have you tried hanging them so more air can get inside them, maybe with some magnetic clips or those hangers with clips? Or it might be easier just to buy a second pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    Still having trouble with gloves. But now it is a different problem.

    I found some ski gloves at the local outdoor store that work well at 10f or so, but they work too well in the second half of my commute (uphill). They are damp and ineffective on the ride home, even with fresh wool liners in them.

    Anyone found a good way to dry gloves in a room with no useable heat ducts or electrical outlets?
    I'd consider silica packs. You could probably get some from your local Best Buy or other electronics retailer. They'd have to be dried out each use (low oven temp for 1/2 hour) but they suck up moisture like crazy. Lower tech, instant rice in bags made from old socks. Same issues with drying and slightly less effective, but almost free. If you can find a good source for Silica packs, combining several into a sock-bag (cotton or wool) would be my first choice. After they're dry, you'll need to seal them in a plastic bag until used (because they absorb moisture whenever it's available).

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    For a disposable option that doesn't require drying you could try crumpled news paper which you would have to change once or twice when they get damp.

    Obviously, if there is anything that gets warm or moves air in that room that would be best. I throw mine on top of a power supply when I get to work. Even being just slightly warmer than the room helps to drive the moisture elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    Still having trouble with gloves. But now it is a different problem.

    I found some ski gloves at the local outdoor store that work well at 10f or so, but they work too well in the second half of my commute (uphill). They are damp and ineffective on the ride home, even with fresh wool liners in them.

    Anyone found a good way to dry gloves in a room with no useable heat ducts or electrical outlets?


    Get some bog floppy mitts....with guantlets....and mitten liners.

    I wear mine from -21 C to -5C without liners....I can add summer gloves if it gets hotter and take of the mitts and put them in my pocket...

    The summer gloves extend the range from -25C to +25 C...

    Because they are big and floppy the air moves through them quickly and easily...I havn't had to dry them out at all this year.

    For gloves to be wram enough they need far to much insulation this reduces the available temperature range significantly.....BTW Lobsters seem to be almost the worst of both worlds....

    I shift and brake happily cause the fingers can easily move independantly in the mitts cause they are big.

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    I just wear Ice Armor ice fishing gloves. But my hands have always had issues staying warm in the winter (even on a snowmobile with heated grips).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Get some bog floppy mitts....with guantlets....and mitten liners.
    I can't imagine how many times you've typed this phrase on this website this winter. You probably can't imagine how much joy I get out of the phrase "[big] floppy mitts".

    Seriously, though. If it got colder here I'd be all over that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    I can't imagine how many times you've typed this phrase on this website this winter. You probably can't imagine how much joy I get out of the phrase "[big] floppy mitts".

    Seriously, though. If it got colder here I'd be all over that.
    Well thanks for the acknowledgment...

    Id have them even for just down to -10C....

    I 'll be wearing them and the summer gloves tomorrow when we go XC skiing...

    Eventully someone else will get a pair that works and it will be a learning...

    Seriously I have changed a tire with the mitts on.

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    Thanks all, lots of good advise that sounds obvious once stated. All of which was evading me.
    I'll try the silica packets and the "big floppy mitts" in the next week and see how they work. I might try taking the tops off my boot dryer with me as well, just to see if keeping the gloves open and letting air in will dry them in a few hours.

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    At work we use old soup cans and put our gloves on the radiator to dry em, works alright for thick leather gloves.

    I have snow boarding gloves with the index finger free and the other 3 fingers in a mitten. It works pretty well and I have no problem with trigger shifters or brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentheKona View Post
    At work we use old soup cans and put our gloves on the radiator to dry em, works alright for thick leather gloves.
    I`m curious as to how that works. You use the soup cans to keep the gloves standing up? Lay the gloves over the cans to keep them from direct contact with the radiator? It`s really sort of a moot point for me though because nobody around here uses radiators for heat.
    Recalculating....

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    Wow, tough winter. I haven't been able to get on the bike hardly at all. As soon as the trails get even slightly packed along comes another 5-12" of snow. The temps are hovering around 0-10F so the snow never really consolidates. It's only been above freezing for a few hours since a few days after Christmas. The roads are barely wide enough for cars with lots of piles along the edge so that way to work is out. Crossing the lake is like an expedition. I want to ride my bike to work.

    Thanks for listening.

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    I feel for you guys back there. `Bout all I can say.
    Recalculating....

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    I haven't been riding this week, the roads are narrowed from the snowbanks and very greasy (still 4" spooge on the hill to work). I've been using the extra time to do more snowshoeing and skiing with the dog (and his lab friend) rather than fight the poor roadway conditions. Plus I have some early appointments this week, so I have not been in serious bike withdrawal yet. Friday is Winter Bike-to-Work Day, new this year here, so I might have to ride then as a matter of pride.

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    Be careful out there guys. We just had a club member go down on some ice and break four neck vertebrae. He's home for 8 weeks minimum and probably not riding til summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    I haven't been riding this week, the roads are narrowed from the snowbanks and very greasy (still 4" spooge on the hill to work). I've been using the extra time to do more snowshoeing and skiing with the dog (and his lab friend) rather than fight the poor roadway conditions. Plus I have some early appointments this week, so I have not been in serious bike withdrawal yet. Friday is Winter Bike-to-Work Day, new this year here, so I might have to ride then as a matter of pride.
    Why would a State/Province make "Bike-To_work" day in February? Sounds like a not-so-subtle dig at cyclists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    I`m curious as to how that works. You use the soup cans to keep the gloves standing up? Lay the gloves over the cans to keep them from direct contact with the radiator? It`s really sort of a moot point for me though because nobody around here uses radiators for heat.

    we cut the bottoms out and insert the soup can where your hand goes and stand them up. Keeps them open and helps to let the excess water drain by gravity. Probably would work alright without the radiator, might work even better if you have force air floor vents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biggie View Post
    Why would a State/Province make "Bike-To_work" day in February? Sounds like a not-so-subtle dig at cyclists.
    They're doing it here too, its an actual winter cycling event. It's actually a great sign that they're starting to come around to the fact that this is year round transportation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentheKona View Post
    They're doing it here too, its an actual winter cycling event. It's actually a great sign that they're starting to come around to the fact that this is year round transportation.
    Yes, here (OK an hour north in Burlington) they are holding workshops, prizes, etc. I just learned it is actually international, and you can see where everyone is who has signed up: Winter Bike to Work Day | Friday, February 13th, 2015Winter Bike to Work Day Finland is pedaling like mad.

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    Oh yeah, I forgot I had signed up for that a while ago. You'd think they would send me an email to remind me. It's not the biggest thing on my calendar.

    I carpooled in today but am going to ride the trails home. I'm hoping they are firm enough. If they are and tomorrow's 3-5" doesn't turn to 5-8" I should be able to do the winter ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggie View Post
    Why would a State/Province make "Bike-To_work" day in February? Sounds like a not-so-subtle dig at cyclists.
    Hey, it's winter and they're promoting cycling, I'd take it if we had it here. We have a club ride on New Year's Day every year and Frosty rides almost every weekend throughout the year.

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    Struggling here. Freezing rain and snow in the forecast today, so I will not be commuting. Cannot risk a fall and injury before the real riding starts when it gets warmer. This hovering around freezing and rain/sleet that we have been getting is getting old. I wish it would either warm up, or cool down and the precipitation can stop any time now. There is like a fine mist in the air and it freezes making the roads and paths slippery as hell. So over this winter already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeed View Post
    Struggling here. Freezing rain and snow in the forecast today, so I will not be commuting. Cannot risk a fall and injury before the real riding starts when it gets warmer. This hovering around freezing and rain/sleet that we have been getting is getting old. I wish it would either warm up, or cool down and the precipitation can stop any time now. There is like a fine mist in the air and it freezes making the roads and paths slippery as hell. So over this winter already.
    I have thought about studded tires after riding a bit yesterday. My bike had around 1/10" of ice on it after work, thankfully my wife picked me up (and the bike rack was on her Explorer).

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    Freezzing rain for the last several days...

    oh well

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    It's my favorite part of winter, because it's almost light enough that I can ditch my magicshine clone!

    More light is always a good thing, but moving the separate battery pack and wires between different bikes is a pain. So I'm really looking forward to just running my PB lights again (maybe next week?)

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    And since people were mentioning winter bike to work day, around here one of the downtown stores announced a few weeks ago that they were going to throw a free pancake breakfast for cyclists.

    But it also just got announced that the mayor (whose wife is a local bike blogger) will be showing up to officially proclaim it "Winter Bike to Work Day." I had planned to skip the pancakes, but now I guess I really should plan to head down there.

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    So now the forecast is calling for this:

    Thursday: Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near 10. Wind chill values as low as -17. Blustery, with a north northwest wind 17 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph.
    Thursday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around -2. Wind chill values as low as -11. Northwest wind 6 to 11 mph becoming light west after midnight.

    I am seriously considering testing myself and my gear and riding to work Thursday. I am also strongly considering riding this weekend both days to work. Forecast is:

    Saturday: A 40 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 15. Blustery.
    Saturday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around -10.
    Sunday: Sunny and cold, with a high near 4.
    Sunday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around -7.

    It will all depend on how the ride on Thursday goes. What kind of an affect will those temperatures have on bike tires sitting outside for almost 9 hours or so?
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    ^ Don't forget to take some hand warmers with you.

    My bikes live in an unheated garage, I haven't noticed any issues with the tires down to 6f. Tonight will be my first commute below that mark.

    The temperature swing from 30s yesterday to 1s tonight, and room temp to ambient, might change your fat- tire pressure, though I have no idea how much. I doubt that 9 hours is much different than 30 minutes in terms of how cold the tires get.

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    ^ we had the same exact temperature swing, in the low 30's yesterday into the upper 20's. Currently a balmy 5 right now and the wind is snapping. I plan on riding to see if I can live up to rule #9.
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    We are currently at -7.6F with a windchill of -23F

    My wife made me drive today.

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    -20 with windchill.

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    0 F is the forecast high for Winter Bike To Work Day tomorrow...I doubt we'll get any new converts.

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    -23C over here, minus whatever extra windchill I make myself I guess.

    says it's going to be feeling like -32C tomorrow morn.
    so if my math's right, at about 20kph, the windchill-affected temperature will be something absurd like -46C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    0 F is the forecast high for Winter Bike To Work Day tomorrow...I doubt we'll get any new converts.
    I biked in today even though I knew, and it was confirmed, that the lake SUCKED. 2' of snow over 1' of snow slush. My boots were like ice blocks when I (eventually) got to the other side. I'm not sure why the usual snowmobile traffic isn't out packing the lake for me. Gas is cheap and snow is plenty. I'd think they would be out in droves. The ride in took 90 minutes.

    I didn't even check the temp before I left. I see it's up to 4F 3 hours later with the sun out so I'd guess it wasn't too warm. Oh, and we officially have a Blizzard watch. 1-2 more feet! Whoooo Hooooo. Or to quote blockphi, "Good Times"
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    Do I dare commute tomorrow? High of 18F, 1-2" of blowing snow forecasted with potential whiteouts, and gusts up to 40mph dropping wind chills to -20F. That is just the ride in. The ride home would be more like -9F actual temp, and 35mph winds dropping the wind chill to -29F or colder. I have never ridden in such cold temps before, but I really want to. My gear is good enough I think with no exposed skin. I would have to really layer well to prevent my extremities from getting cold. Hand warmers would be an absolute must on both rides I would imagine. The snow does not worry me nor do the whiteout conditions. The temp and windchill are what have me concerned. I have a possibility of leaving the bike inside possibly so that would help with the handlebars. Do it or no?
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    Ride at 18F should be no problem unless you're going to be out for more than 90minutes.
    -9F is getting pretty chilly.
    Windchill is really a non-factor when you're riding.
    It "feels" colder. Check. One produces a 15-20+mph headwind whenever they ride.
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    TenSpeed, I'm not going to try to encourage you one way or another. -9F with that wind isn't going to be pleasant but with the right gear it will be fine. With the wrong gear it could be dangerous. If you have prepped well and experimented with temps approaching that, I'd say go for it. Heck, I rode in at 0 today and didn't even know it until I got to work and checked. I had to pull the balaclava off because I was too hot.

    Not to beat a dead horse but below 0 hand warmers use to be almost mandatory. With the bar-mitts I really haven't even given a thought to using them this year. I don't remember where you ended up with your glove search.

    Have fun but stay safe.

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    My ride is 7.7 miles and even at a slow pace I am looking at about 45 minutes or so. I can stop at the bike shop which is half way if needed to warm up. My glove search has left me with liners and some decent North Face gloves. I never found the gloves I lost, and they are not available at REI's website in my size which is unfortunate. I considered going lobster and then putting the warmer in the finger tips but I am not sure how that would work and not sure I want to test it out in those conditions.
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    Well I don't want to make yall mad but it's in the 60's in the Pacific North West no sign of ice or snow. An early death to the ski season means an early bike season I guess.... wearing shorts on the commute home for the first time since last September.

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    Tenspeed, if you don't try it, I hope you have to wait for next year to test your mettle.

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    I plan on riding it. YOLO right?
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    TenSpeed, the wind will be the sucky part, and the whiteouts are scarey if cars are close (if they can't see the car in front of them, what are the chances of seeing a bike?). I would not stop halfway unless something is dangerously cold, or you have an alternative transport from there, as you are likely to get colder from stopping.

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    that was cold.
    neoprene facemask, neoprene barmitts, bontrager lobster claw mitts, down jacket under goretex raincoat, nylon outers over jeans, motorcycle boots

    bloody effing cold anyways.
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    byknuts, I tried down under raincoat, and rain shells over jeans some time ago. That combo is exactly what I wear when running a tractor or skid steer in this weather, and something I will never wear again while felling (or riding) above 0f.

    Have you found the magic venting solution to make it work? Or was it really cold enough for all that?

    How did the lobsters work out?

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    Seems like getting that combo is tough, as your body temperature rises and falls as you ride and stop.
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    ^Absolutely true Tenspeed.

    byknuts: My apologies. I just reread my last post. I sound like an even bigger ******* than I am. I meant to suggest that I have had a lot of trouble with down and denim losing their insulating qualities with even a little sweat trapped under rain gear.

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    I've found I've ended up with mostly snowboarding gear. It seems to do a good job of being warm and letting me breath so I don't get super sweaty, my base layer is cold weather underarmour.

    In fact, I was just thinking maybe I'll try snowboarding since I have most of the gear except the snowboard.

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    ^ I have started leaning that way as well, minus the desire to snowboard. Now if I could find a snowboarding jacket that fit like a biking jacket........
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    I have a complete wool base layer then usually a thin fleece than either my 800 fill down jacket or my softshell jacket. That is all I really need.
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    I somehow have lost one of my glove liners that I normally wear for cold weather. Going to use a pair of Nike gloves that I have in there instead, might actually be better than the liners. BTW - it is cold out, just went to the car to see if I could find that liner. Temp is 12F, feels like -7F. Winds from the NW at 23mph currently. This should be rather interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    ^Absolutely true Tenspeed.

    byknuts: My apologies. I just reread my last post. I sound like an even bigger ******* than I am. I meant to suggest that I have had a lot of trouble with down and denim losing their insulating qualities with even a little sweat trapped under rain gear.
    No worries! No secret to venting, although I'll pop my pitt zips open when needed.
    My work commute right now is usually under 45 minutes unless I'm plowing through the snow. With all the stop n starts, it's barely enough time to get warmed up. And not long enough for a good sweat to have time to chill me.
    (Although that has happened with this same setup on longer rides)

    The pogies make all the difference in the world, down to about -10C I can run normal mtb gloves, or those sealskinz underneath them. Below that I wear the lobsters.
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    I'm hoping to get some better gear next year as well as a fat bike. Will help to lose weight before getting gear so I can actually try it on first

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    Finally got some "big floppy mitts." Some Burtons on sale at the local sport and snowboard shop, big enough to wear my wool glove liners under them without feeling crowded. I tested them for about an hour and a half today, along with an insulated Camelback water bottle, at about 10f with negative windchills. Both performed much better than I had expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeed View Post
    ^ I have started leaning that way as well, minus the desire to snowboard. Now if I could find a snowboarding jacket that fit like a biking jacket........
    Haha, at least someone can relate. I've almost bought the full kit minus the board. I came this far might as well give it a shot, even if biking is my first love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    Jeffscott was right.
    You didn't just say that? That's going to go right to his head. JK JS

    Trails are finally firming up. Luckily the 12-18" they were forecasting right up to the night before turned into 1/2". I don't think I've ever seen a forecast miss so far. I'll take it though!

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    Just realized that I will be doing my first commute below 0f tomorrow. I thought I would get it several times this season, but the forecast has always lagged by a few hours.

    I have had several commutes around 10f, and quite a few shopping trips around or below zero (but, they are stop and start one mile at a time). Is anything truly different between -2, -10 and +10, or just colder?

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    I didn't notice much of a difference. Wind will play the factor I think.
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    ^ I have footwear that will take me a bit below +10, lower I need my other boots. I can get away with lighter mitts too at +10 if not too long a ride, have to add another layer if colder or longer, but I am not riding as fast at my age (less heat produced) and seem to feel the cold more (I am on thyroid and adrenal support). But is is more a fine tuning of one or two more layers.

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    ^ Thanks. I'm thinking it is mostly a mind game. For my first few rides under 15f, I over prepared and over heated in a big way. I'd rather not repeat that learning curve.

    Is the 10 degree difference worth a layer of fleece? Or should I keep it in my pannier, just in case? There is something about there being "No degrees" of warmth that sounds so much more vicious than 6 degrees.

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    Think about it. It is the difference between 30 and 36. Can you feel it? Would you dress differently?
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    That is where I am stuck. At 36 the cold is wet and soaks into my bones, at 30 it is damp, at 25 it starts to get crisp and less painful. I do dress very differently for 25 and 35, but not much differently for 15 and 25.

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    Just realized that I will be doing my first commute below 0f tomorrow. I thought I would get it several times this season, but the forecast has always lagged by a few hours.

    I have had several commutes around 10f, and quite a few shopping trips around or below zero (but, they are stop and start one mile at a time). Is anything truly different between -2, -10 and +10, or just colder?
    The answer really depends on what gear you have. Below 20F you really need to pay close attention to having all skin covered. At 10F I use goggles and a snowboarding helmet over my balaclava (rather than a cycling helmet). Below 0 I add gators to ensure good insulation between my tights and boots. You'll chill quicker so you'll need to take that into account. My rule of thumb is to start cold, almost too cold, so I can hit the right temp on the ride and not overheat. Then I limit my stops (to keep temps even) and regulate my body temp with effort.

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    As a general rule, i make some change for each 10F difference in temperature. Not necessarily a big change, maybe adding an undershirt layer or a slightly thicker wool layer. And I would definitely consider the goggles at -10F, to get skin coverage. But I always bring glasses too at those temps, so if the goggles fail (fog up) I am not bare faced. If you have any hand/toewarmers, I would also consider those at -10F in order to be comfy. Wind, downhills, and length of commute are all factors too. Also, leave more time at -10F, you will be going slower.

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    Thanks all.

    I picked up some goggles a week ago or so, and tried them out with my face mask, and then with my balaclava, on my short runs. I had been wearing my safety glasses and never thought to bring them as a back up. The safety glasses and hand warmers are now in my pannier. Along with the oversized ski gloves and wool liners, in case my "big floppy mitts" aren't dry for the ride home.

    I don't ride in tights, but, Forster's suggestion of gaiters has me wondering if I should put my leg- bands/ pant- straps into service to keep the draft out between my work pants and work boots. I'll try that one out for sure.

    My commute begins with a half mile of serious elevation drop, and ends with a half mile of serious climbing, in either direction. The few miles in between are flat with any number of stops and railroad crossings (which can mean as much as ten minutes stopped and waiting).

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    ^ you're braver than I am, man. Tomorrow is gonna be -3F when I would normal leave. I'm skipping. I know, pathetic, but that'd be about 15 colder than my coldest yet and I'm just not prepared.
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    ^ I thought you were all excited about cold, cold and more cold?

    Brave, me? No sir, I am simply belligerent, and don't want to pay the University parking fees unless it is raining.

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    You should consider tights. One of the best things that I have added to my cycling wardrobe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    ^ I thought you were all excited about cold, cold and more cold?

    Brave, me? No sir, I am simply belligerent, and don't want to pay the University parking fees unless it is raining.
    The weather in STL has been dumb though. It's been really hard for me to get used to anything. 60f one week and then a couple days later it's 15F. I can swing that but it hasn't come close to negatives really and then wham it's -3F. Well dang, I'm all for commuting in whatever weather you can swing, but the range of conditions just hasn't let me be prepared. And I don't wanna be that unprepared guy who really overextended himself.

    If this kept up for a few days I'd be in. As it stands the next day is gonna be like 30F... excuse excuse excuse... I don't have to get used to it so I won't. I'll just get a ride up and bike back later when it's 15F.
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    Tomorrow is supposed to be a balmy -13F when I leave for for at 7AM. Even better, we've been having wind chill warnings. Plus I have to cross the Mississippi River, its gonna suck.....

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    Tonight the wind chill is supposed to be -25 F. I cannot take it any more. Go home winter, you are drunk. Piss off already. Haven't been on the bike since last Saturday.
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    This is why I'm a puss-puss, rusted.
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    had my first f*ck it to the commute this season - i drive part way and ride the last 15 km into work, but this am i parked in the usual spot, got out and felt the -38C windchill headwind, felt the frozen pavement and ice under my feet....tucked the tail between my legs and drove the rest of the way to the office

    where the frick is the at least warmer weather?

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    It is official. Winter is kicking my butt. I have had enough. White flag is thrown. Woke up to this for today.

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    Hey, at least there is no wind.

    I took today off as well. There are very few days when I could ride but don't. I was just too tired from too many 1-1/2 hour fatbike slogs through soft trails. Next week is another week.

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    Sympathies to all of the non-canadians who are getting canadian temperatures this winter.

    I haven't actually had to break out my maximum-level (sub -15F) gear yet, and only had one ride close to that back in November. I'd say that you get used to it, but you really don't. Below -15F is my no-fun-zone, where I'll still ride but it's only about getting from point a to point b.

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    Sympathies to all of the non-canadians who are getting canadian temperatures this winter.
    Calgary has been getting a ton of mild Chinook winds, I've had a few mornings in the -15C range but on average it has seriously been a mild winter for commuting. The last few days had daytime highs of +10C. Weird.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MP87 View Post
    Calgary has been getting a ton of mild Chinook winds, I've had a few mornings in the -15C range but on average it has seriously been a mild winter for commuting. The last few days had daytime highs of +10C. Weird.


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    ^ same thing a couple of hours north. Not quite as warm, but the amount of rain, and days above 0C, and even just days above -10C has been ridiculous.

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    Was -14F actual temp this morning. I just don't have the right footwear for that kind of temp, but that will be rectified shortly.

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    Today I considered riding, but jumped a mile when I entered the shed to find my strap-on-the-back-of-the-car bike rack and a squirrel came at me. (I am awaiting parts so that my hatchback can be used to get my bike to the park-n-pedal lot.) I grabbed the rack, but my will to install it in the teens below zero F and -32 wind chill, and to ride from my park n pedal lot evaporated. Yes, that's right, I blame the squirrel!

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    -15C "feels like -25".
    maybe if you're stationary... WAY effing colder at speed.
    look, i am ballsy, and stubborn as hell. part of my intense desire to ride every damn day is just to see if it's possible.
    so far I haven't been wrong.

    But this is some bullsh!t cold.
    I'm piling strain on top of pain. It's getting to me.
    Just give me some goddamn snow so at least I can have some fun.

    Tore my studdeed tires off to loan them to a friend who has an ice-race tomorrow. he mentioned on his way out the door that he'd have them back to me next weekend.
    Oops.
    so I may just be studless for a week.
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    ^ Minus teens, cold feet, tree rats, and borrowed studs, - I've got nothing to complain about here. Well, except for all the car snot and plow berms.

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    18F and lots of wind for the ride today. Met up with another fat biker and we rode off to actually hit the snowy trails. It was rough, hell this whole winter has been rough. Hands were frozen even with chemical warmers in them. I am just fed up with being so cold. Supposed to drop to -9F tonight. Enough is enough. You guys that ride consistently in the colder weather, my hats off to you. I am going to take a break from commuting and just ride this cold out as long as I can.
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    Cool! Bummer it was so short lived after all that work.
    Recalculating....

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    I'm a little on the fence about commuting lately. It's not the cold temps or snow, its just that we've gone so long without above freezing temps none of the snow has melted, so the roads are at maybe 80% width now. Which wouldn't be so bad, but they're starting to clear because its warm enough for salt to work, so the cars are back up to excessive speeds. I'm really having a hard time piecing together routes avoiding main roads.

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    At -19F this could have been a record for me. -18 is my previous record, I think. But there was a carpool option so screw that. I'll ride home tonight when it warms up to 10.

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    Well, the cold weather limiter is still my feet. I'm in need of some good winter boots anyway, so I'll gladly pay a premium for some really nice boots that will last a really long time and can handle -25F commutes. I'm looking at some Sorel Caribou's currently. Anyone have experience with them or recommend any other super warm boots? The other question is, now that it is almost March, is it worth it to buy boots now or just wait until next fall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleebs View Post
    Well, the cold weather limiter is still my feet. I'm in need of some good winter boots anyway, so I'll gladly pay a premium for some really nice boots that will last a really long time and can handle -25F commutes. I'm looking at some Sorel Caribou's currently. Anyone have experience with them or recommend any other super warm boots? The other question is, now that it is almost March, is it worth it to buy boots now or just wait until next fall...
    Winter boots are usually on sale in the spring and summer if you can find the selection

    I ride shimano MW80s and MW81s good to -36C for at least 45 minutes.

    you need to make sure your lower leg is also well insulated to ensure warm blood flow to your feet.

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    Winter milestone: first commute of the year without my magicshine clone! There's plenty enough light now to just use my one-piece lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    Winter boots are usually on sale in the spring and summer if you can find the selection

    I ride shimano MW80s and MW81s good to -36C for at least 45 minutes.

    you need to make sure your lower leg is also well insulated to ensure warm blood flow to your feet.
    Yep lower legs were warm and toasty, literally the only cold part of my body was my toes. It seems that I just have cold feet I guess. I think I might just wait until the spring sales to pick up some boots. I can just be picky regarding which days I choose to ride for the rest of the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleebs View Post
    Well, the cold weather limiter is still my feet. I'm in need of some good winter boots anyway, so I'll gladly pay a premium for some really nice boots that will last a really long time and can handle -25F commutes. I'm looking at some Sorel Caribou's currently. Anyone have experience with them or recommend any other super warm boots? The other question is, now that it is almost March, is it worth it to buy boots now or just wait until next fall...
    Are you looking for cycling specific or just general. My advice is to go 1 or more sizes up and add extra socks for warmth. Dead air space is your friend. My warmest boots are Herman Survivors from Walmart. As boots go they are pretty cheap but they have plenty of room. I have Lake 303s, one size up and they aren't as warm but the best cycling boots I've found. They are fine down to 0F. -25F actual temp is lower than I've ever ridden.

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    Are you looking for cycling specific or just general. My advice is to go 1 or more sizes up and add extra socks for warmth. Dead air space is your friend. My warmest boots are Herman Survivors from Walmart. As boots go they are pretty cheap but they have plenty of room. I have Lake 303s, one size up and they aren't as warm but the best cycling boots I've found. They are fine down to 0F. -25F actual temp is lower than I've ever ridden.
    Just general boots. I have the Lakes as well and they are great to a certain point but not warm enough for those really cold days (I can get to 10-15F with them). I doubt I'll ever get to -25F either but I'd like to comfortably ride in -10F to -15F which we've had several times this winter. It seems my feet are colder than most here so I gave myself some wiggle room

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    Our LBS which is also set up as an online bike shop has some closeouts. If I was in the market for studded tires these are great deals. The prices on their website aren't updated but I got this in an email today.

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    ^ in response to some of the stuff said there....

    One of the main roads that I ride on to work used to be three lanes wide. 2 years ago, they redid the road, and turned the far right lane into a dedicated bike lane for at least a couple of miles as you leave the campus area. It is a great bike lane and I am grateful to have it. The lane is not plowed however, it is not treated as such, and only the other two lanes are plowed, which leaves the bike lane to accumulate all the snow from the other two lanes. This almost doubles the time it takes to get the bike lane usable again as there is usually a lot of snow in it. One of the last times that I rode to work, I ended up taking the lane for part of it because even on my fat bike, there was just too much snow and car snot to navigate it. I am sure that drivers were pissed as I should have been in the bike lane.

    Make it accessible, and more people would use it. That is mentioned in the article above, and I fully believe that. If you give people the ability to have optional transportation, they will do it, especially around a college campus. Having been to Ann Arbor before, and only being an hour away, I can confidently say that it is a great community with a lot of eco conscious people living there. Biking is pretty huge as is walking to work, alternative transportation, etc. Stuff like this needs to happen.
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    Kleebs, I have been rolling in a pair of 600 gram Thinsulate Wolverines for the last month or so. With heavy wool socks, they have been good for about 70 minutes of riding below 10f, 90 minutes if I get off and walk the bike through intersections to get the toes moving again. Pac type boots, like my Kamiks and Sorrels, seem to limit my ankle and toe movement and get my toes cold faster.

    Mtbx, thanks for posting that link. The "commonists" over in Ann Arbor do have some good ideas and discussions now and then. In this conservative part of the state, sidewalks and MUPs are generally viewed as seasonal, and public transit takes Sundays and holidays off. Even here there is a plan in place to cut out two traffic lanes from a major downtown artery and replace them with a protected bike lane. I just hope if/ when it gets built, we don't have Tenspeed's experience of the lane serving as a snow repository, like our existing MUPs. I'll be writing my representative tomorrow and including the link above.

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    Iditarod Trail Invitational

    I haven't been riding as much with a second job in the evenings but knowing these fools can do this helped me ride in the one day I could. Having this race to follow has made my week more bearable. They're also posting updates on facebook.
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    42F this morning, and the 14 day forecast has everyday above freezing with most nights dipping just below. Is it time for my annual conversion of my bigbike back into a singlespeed? It sure feels like it is. (however, there are a few hills on my trail-route home that are hard enough to climb in the summer, and that are currently ice, and that are only going to get worse between now and the end of the month)

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    The weather is a changing here as well. The high for the next ten days is above 37F and the low will just be flirting with below freezing. That means its time to tear down my road and mountain bikes to get them ready for the season. Both saw occasional commute duty and are in need of an in-depth cleaning, adjustment, and regreasing. Hopefully I don't have a lot of parts that need replacing.

    I foresee several changes coming for my dedicated commuter though. The stem clamp keeps slipping which is driving me crazy. I have some bids out for some bar end shifters, new handlebar, derailleur, etc. as well. Depending on how that comes out I may be getting a whole new drivetrain. I'll have to be careful to make sure I always have at least 1 bike to get to work on.

    All of this reflection is basically me thinking, "wow, winter riding really chews up bike components". Still beats driving though.

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    I went on strike today due to the -14F start to the day, a record low for this date. Somewhere in NH between Bedwards and I, it hit -30F.

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    Temps now forecasted for 38F with the high this week hitting 47F on Wednesday, with lows above freezing. I have my hopes, but I figure we will get another cold spell and probably more snow. Now the melt will start, so the fat bike will still be seeing duty until it dries and the salt is washed off the roads. Cleaning my bike daily is getting really old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    I went on strike today due to the -14F start to the day, a record low for this date. Somewhere in NH between Bedwards and I, it hit -30F.
    I probably saw -5 on my ride in. Next week looks more seasonable.

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    Many thanks to all of you here for the inspiration and timely assistance in getting me through my first winter on a bike. All those hints and nudges add up, without them I would have hung up the bike in November.

    I am almost looking forward to next winter, for now, I will savor Spring commuting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedthrough View Post
    I am almost looking forward to next winter


    Hold your horses!!! Spring just started like 45 seconds ago here in Michigan.
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    Well, all of us are not so latitudinally challenged. We went from a 8" of snow on the lawn to spring temps in a week, then back cold again. But warmer these days before and just after the first day of spring.

    To the tune of: "Oh What a Beautiful Morning" -

    Oh What a Good Day for Riding

    There's no longer a frost on the meadow,
    There's no longer a frost on the meadow,
    The Crocus is as high as a Red Robin's eye,
    And the Robins are climbin' clear up to the sky.

    Chorus:
    Oh what a beautiful morning,
    Oh what a beautiful day,
    I've got a wonderful feeling,
    I'm KOMing today.

    A buzzard is feeding on roadkill,
    A buzzard is feeding on roadkill,
    It does not turn its head as it sees me ride by.
    It is back from the south where in winter they fly.

    Repeat chorus

    The sounds of summer tires are like music,
    The sounds of summer tires are like music,
    The bike feels so light like it could float on a breeze,
    And the layers are off showing my shins, thighs, and knees.

    Repeat chorus

    The snow drops were best last week but no sun to get a nice photo:



    The Croci are doing well but we are missing some (squirrels or frosted off?):



    And we have more Siberian Irises in three colors this year:



    No CheeKeree! from the redwing blackbirds yet. Another couple of weeks, for that I suspect. So Spring is northward bound.

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    We have hit 70 degrees, and today are supposed to get 3-6" of snow.....

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    Nice song and pix, BrianMc! Still plenty of snow here, went snowshoeing in the state forest. A high of about 10F, windy but sunny.
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    The Redwing Blackbirds are here on today's ride!

    So another verse:

    Along the road Redwing Blackbirds are singing,
    Along the road Redwing Blackbirds are singing,
    I don't need three socks and helmet vents are tapeless,
    Much more Aero now and the bars Barr Mitts-less

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    Winter hasn't quite released it's icy grip here either. We're 3 days into spring and it was in the single digits again this morning. I was trying some free range fatbiking on the crust until my wheel broke through to the axle and then my leg went through to my waist. Yup, still plenty of snow around. The sun is definitely gaining power to melt it although the high is only supposed to be 25 today.

    At least the winter biking is at it's best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smccloud View Post
    We have hit 70 degrees, and today are supposed to get 3-6" of snow.....
    That was us last week. 8" of snow on the weekend, and now it's not supposed to be above freezing again all week, so the white stuff isn't going anywhere.

    I'm torn, because the trails were <this> close to being clear...but what that really meant was that everything was still covered in ice and had been completely unrideable for weeks, and probably still had 2 weeks to go. All the new snow means we're back to wonderful, rideable winter conditions for a week or two. But that means that actually clear trails are a long ways off.

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    Got less than an inch of snow, and some freezing rain before it

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    Yay, blackbirds! And doggies and fatties, of course.

    It`s a little chily at 31F this morning, slightly cloudy with a little breeze. Snowpack... might find two foot accumulations in a shady canyon above 8000 ft. Certainly none here and none visible on the northern exposure of the 8500 ft mountain between me and Reno proper.

    Today`s chief complaint in my long and discouraging spring is a danged squirrel which REFUSES to stop burrowing under my back step. The Caddy Shack war from a few years ago finally ended with a .22 CB cap after attempts to refill, dumping cayanne pepper, nailing wire mesh to the ground, and failed atttempts to trap. Then nothing for over a year, a few isolated holes, and back to the same daily problem. It keeps digging in the same spot. Well, actually right between the two mortar filled holes that its ancesters dug. I have no idea what to do now except keep the rifle loaded and handy with more CB caps. But it`s a tough route to take since I very rarely see the stealthy little bastid. My current method is continue dumping dirty motor oil down in hopes of making it an unpleasant home. Obviously that isn`t doing the job. Sigh...Name:  P3231953.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    Today`s chief complaint in my long and discouraging spring is a danged squirrel which REFUSES to stop burrowing under my back step. The Caddy Shack war from a few years ago finally ended with a .22 CB cap after attempts to refill, dumping cayanne pepper, nailing wire mesh to the ground, and failed atttempts to trap. Then nothing for over a year, a few isolated holes, and back to the same daily problem. It keeps digging in the same spot. Well, actually right between the two mortar filled holes that its ancesters dug. I have no idea what to do now except keep the rifle loaded and handy with more CB caps. But it`s a tough route to take since I very rarely see the stealthy little bastid. My current method is continue dumping dirty motor oil down in hopes of making it an unpleasant home. Obviously that isn`t doing the job. Sigh...Name:  P3231953.jpg
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    He doesn't live in a hole with motor oil in it....

    That is just a diversion...

    Him and his ancestors have been living in your attic quietly and enjoyable for many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    He doesn't live in a hole with motor oil in it....

    That is just a diversion...

    Him and his ancestors have been living in your attic quietly and enjoyable for many years.
    Recalculating....

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    0F and a killer headwind this morning. It was slowing me down so much I finally took the bus for the middle 3 miles, then hopped.back on the bife for the last uphill mile. I would have stuck it out but I had a new staffer starting today. I just made it on time. Was also having ghost shifts after a quick wheel swap. The new staffer wants to bikecommute!!

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    Careful Rodar. I have a great back porch steps story... I had a wooden step going down from a rear sliding door one time... just a wooden box, maybe a foot tall and the width of the sliding glass door... I didn't really use that door all summer, but it was the quick access to the woodpile, so I started using it in the fall to go out and split wood. I started noticing a couple of bees coming out of the gap in the boards from the step when I would step on it, so I figured I should do something about that. I was picturing a little beehive like you get here and there, maybe the size of a ping pong ball. So I knew they'd freak when I moved the step... I was ready to hustle away, but I had no idea what I was in for...

    I grabbed the end of the step and went to flip it away from the house, assuming I'd flip it over, some bees would freak out, and I'd walk away and come back later to deal with them... well as I flipped the step over, I basically tore in half what turned out to be a beehive that included the entire underside of the step, and about a foot of underground space that the bees had excavated for themselves. I forget what kind of bees do the underground thing in stumps and what-not, but it was them... yellow jackets? I don't remember, but its' fairly common in the woods around here.

    It sounded like a freaking F14 taking off, and the cloud of bees that erupted from the scene was horrifying. They blotted out the sun, I'm telling you. I ran like a crazy person, flailing arms and legs...all the way around the house and into the front door, miraculously escaping getting stung. The bees were so thick on the outside of the sliding glass door it looked like a curtain had been pulled... they wanted in. They wanted to kill me. I could see it in their little bee eyes. Only 3 or 4 got past the door somehow through some invisible crack, and they chased me around the house while my wife looked on in horror.

    I had 2 cans of that "20 foot spray" bee killer aresol stuff. So I got all decked out in a wide brimmed had with a mosquito net thing over the top (had it laying around, you know)... long sleeves, long pants, gloves, duct tape cuffs and pant legs... and a can of spray in each hand. I was scared. I'll admit it.

    I walked around the corner of the house and opened fire on the upside down step and the other half of the hive in the ground, and emptied both of those cans, setting off another eruption of angry bees. They were all over me, but somehow again I escaped getting stung.

    2 days later, after completely soaking the hive in 2 cans of that spray, there were still bees coming out of the ground... crawling out of the remains and flying off into the forest to regroup and plan their next attack. I did the only thing that I could do. I moved out of that house the next fall.
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    ^^OMG, that is a crazy story, glad you survived! I usually only find beehives when I am up 15' on a ladder!

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    I have a yellow jacket story that I used to think was good. It doesn`t sound so interresting anymore.
    Recalculating....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    Today`s chief complaint in my long and discouraging spring is a danged squirrel which REFUSES to stop burrowing under my back step.
    Our squirrels, they are quite arboreal
    But chipmunks, dig in my territory-o.
    I had tried trapping them,
    Hot Pepper zapping them.
    Fed peanuts (with poison): funereal

    We have a healthy population that I keep from digging under my nice sidewalk. Every couple of years the population crashes, but they are not in danger of going extinct.

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    One for your territory-o, Brian:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL5f0np7EU

    So, how is it that you keep them from digging under your nice sidewalk?
    Recalculating....

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    Egad, drove to work today due to a 6pm trail crew meeting... Driving home from the meeting was the 2nd or 3rd worst drive or ride of this winter, the visibility was non-existent, and there were not any tire tracks in the snow to help guide the way. Saw one car off the road right off.

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    We had 1/4 mile visibility today so I skipped the ride. It's just not safe enough with our drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodar y rodar View Post
    So, how is it that you keep them from digging under your nice sidewalk?
    I don't declare war until they dig under the walk. That has a few disadvantages, but I don't mind them much otherwise.

    In other animal news, it is just past Easter and time that young coons have been booted by their moms and two tore their way through a roof vent into my attic, more specifically, the eaves. Scared one out. Time for a live trap, I guess. Last year they tore off a gutter loosened by heavy snows and ice but I finally got them out.

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    Happens every spring: I take the gears and the studs off, and once I can actually hear my bike the noise of my stupid bb7s drives me crazy.

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    Remnant of Bostons Brutal Winter Threatens to Outlast Summer http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/us...mmer.html?_r=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbxplorer View Post
    Remnant of Bostons Brutal Winter Threatens to Outlast Summer http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/us...mmer.html?_r=0
    yup I ride by our downtown snow pile every day....lasted all year two winters ago...

    the only difference our pile is black with gravel and sand....almost no trash????

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    ^^You guys hang on to all your trash and then throw it out the window when you drive through New England?

    Pretty impressive that a snow pile at sea level could last into July.
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    Well looks like I am getting back at it... truck has a blown head gasket so will be riding when I can... thing is that in No. NV we actually have a winter this year!!! Already feet of snow up in the mountains and a decent amount still sticking around from last weeks storm with more to come. God, I need to find that cold weather gear thread again as I know for a fact my stuff doesn't fit anymore (that was 2yrs and 30lbs ago).

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    Welcome back at it. This 2014/2015 winter support thread is SOooo last year. We now have a new and improved winter support thread: http://forums.mtbr.com/commuting/201...ad-986594.html Which is pretty much the same as the other one with new dates.

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    thanks bedwards!

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    I love winter commuting because all the fair-weather riders have hung up their bikes. There's lots of room on the bike trail and the bike rack. Also, drivers seem to yield more readily when they see you riding in a pounding winter rain storm.

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    I'm designating November as my no-ride November. After a month off (shoulder surgery) it's clear my brain is turning (rapidly) to mush.

    I miss a month of riding almost every single year.
    I skip because of illness, injury, work or lack of gear.
    I miss because Im lazy, or busy or just not here.
    Anyway, I miss a month, I miss a month each year.

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    ^^ Nice poem, Forster!

    p.s., it is mid December now, how's it going?

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    Shoulder has good range of motion but it's pretty sore. That may be the new normal. The arthritis will require joint replacement, but I should be able to do most of my planned riding next year. The biggest issue now is I can't crash without screwing things up, so I'm a little weather limited. Growing old isn't for the weak, but it beats the alternative.

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    Are you guys getting excited for the winter commute? I actually enjoy it sometimes. Its cold, but, there's a special feeling of quietness when you're alone on a bike trail in the winter and the snow is falling down.

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    Good lord no! Summer just got here last week. I'm usually first to say that I miss riding across the lake but we have months until that happens.

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    I missed my month of riding, early spring this very year.
    A compound open elbow fracture, blood went everywhere
    I didn't miss for slacking or distraction or time.
    But I got right back on and finished 1/2 Gravel Worlds in 6 hours.
    So FU injury BS.

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