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    9999.9 miles... and counting

    On the commuter bike speedometer, that is.

    Filled up the Cateye Velo 5 speedometer (in under 3 years), so I replaced it with a Velo 7.

    <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YCZlpFGIlJY/U3ktQ_Has2I/AAAAAAAAFkk/1Z7zT7Obi3s/s640/IMGP0004-002.JPG">

    I took the commuter bike on a rocky trail ride to celebrate.

    <img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OKNVA2oxpXk/U3ktTvg13KI/AAAAAAAAFks/iz6tlou4lsA/s640/IMGP0008-002.JPG">

    This bike has seen 3 frames and a replacement set of rims (all frame and rim problems from fatigue cracks) but the following parts still work well:

    DT hubs
    Phil Wood BB
    Cane Creek S3 headset
    8 speed SRAM drivetrain
    Low end freebie SRAM rear derailleur
    Freebie parts bin cranks (mismatch arms)
    Cheapo seat post
    Generic stems
    WTB SST seat

    Moral of the story - put your money in the bearing components and skimp the budget on the drivetrain, cranks, and other bits. Put whatever time or money you need into getting the fit right.

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    That's awesome. Is that Pete-e-kes in GJ?

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    One reason I went with steel for my commuter. Lower likelihood of fatigue cracks. You put down some serious miles on that thing.

    I do agree that bearing bits are more important to get right. Not just for commuters, but for all bikes. Good bearings make a huge difference in performance and longevity.

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    You said 9999 on this computer, how many on the previous? The reason I ask is because you went through 3 frames which seems like a lot.

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    Yes, the trail is Pete-e-kes in Grand Junction. Lunch Loops is pretty chunky on 40mm hybrid tires...

    All three frames were steel.

    The original frame was a Vassago Fisticuff V1 which has a very short head tube.
    This frame had an estimated 2,500 miles on it before I got this speedometer.

    I tried a Soma Juice frame for about 500 miles but decided I prefer a CX type bike for commuting. Then I noticed a hairline crack at the tip of the HT gusset under the DT. This was a common problem with that specific model of Soma Juice so I went back to the Fisticuff V1. This was more of a welding/metallurgical problem that made the metal more brittle there as well as a frame design issue, so the frame died at very low miles. Since I got the frame used, Soma did nothing to warranty the frame....

    Last December, I noticed a hairline crack in the paint in the HT on the Fisticuff V1.
    <img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PjPwWIu5EQw/UqzZhLVt68I/AAAAAAAAFd0/PbYIpSCEPcc/s512/IMGP0080.JPG">

    So I sanded the paint down to get a better look at it...
    <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ijNd8SlOkps/UqzZlo18mYI/AAAAAAAAFd8/TQNsEoMoM0o/s512/IMGP0090.JPG">

    Vassago customer service did an excellent job - they have a crash replacement policy where they'll sell you a replacement frame at 50% off if you break your Vassago frame. I took them up on it and got the new, improved Vassago Fisticuff V2. The new frame corrected EVERYTHING I didn't like about V1.

    I expect this frame to last for a long time.

    I suspect that the very short HT on the Fisticuff V1 is what contributed to the relatively short fatigue life of the frame (about 11,000 miles). The fork/handlebars exert a certain torque on the HT area. The closer together the TT and DT are at the HT cluster, the more stress is placed on them. So higher stress on cyclical loading means lower fatigue life...

    Oh, it wasn't all commuting... sometimes I got a little "lost" on the way home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by campredcloudbikes View Post
    Yes, the trail is Pete-e-kes in Grand Junction. Lunch Loops is pretty chunky on 40mm hybrid tires...
    Haha not to get all "stalkerish" but I just realized after looking at the picture of your bike that I recognized it. My office window looks down on your front yard. I've noticed you working on your bikes in front of the house, including today. That frame bag is pretty distinct. You may have noticed me coming and going on my old Schwinn lately. I just started working there a month ago.

    Next time I notice you out there I'll come out and say hi.

    PS - I thought LL was bad enough on my rigid SS with 1.9's on it. Definitely gonna feel it on that bike!

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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    Specialized sucks ass.

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