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    2019 Meta TR British Edition 29

    Looking to pull the trigger on a new bike, and fell in love with this bike. What are your thoughts? Havenít really seen any discussions on it.

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    I think it'll be a ripper. I'm also strongly considering the TR 29er as my next bike, just waiting on 1. launch 2. some press reviews. I just wish a full build came in that sick brushed aluminum color!!

    For me it's this, or Transition. Both appear to have the qualities I'm looking for which is agile, fun, and responsive.

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    I'm pretty interested in a TR2 29 too. Seems like it ticks all the boxes for me. I'm considering a frame up or the Race build. I'm curious if the parts spec is accurate as the Trail build and Race build both have NX drivetrain, hoping it's a misprint and it has GX.

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    The TR 29 is a bike I'm considering along with the Jeffsy and Whyte S-150.
    I really dig the Ride build color scheme, but the build is kind of weak. I'd emailed Commencal USA asking if the TR 29 would be part of the "A La Carte" program, and they said yes. They'll get frames in October for custom builds, they weren't clear on which color ways or more details.
    One the fence with building and buying built, could move 25% my stuff off my current 29er, but also would be nice to have something new and shiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    The TR 29 is a bike I'm considering along with the Jeffsy and Whyte S-150.
    I really dig the Ride build color scheme, but the build is kind of weak. I'd emailed Commencal USA asking if the TR 29 would be part of the "A La Carte" program, and they said yes. They'll get frames in October for custom builds, they weren't clear on which color ways or more details.
    One the fence with building and buying built, could move 25% my stuff off my current 29er, but also would be nice to have something new and shiny.
    Man, on the contrary I feel like for the price youíre getting a really good build. What about it do you think is weak? I canít seem to find another bike at this level/price point with awesome components. Excuse my ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBDiaz View Post
    Man, on the contrary I feel like for the price youíre getting a really good build. What about it do you think is weak? I canít seem to find another bike at this level/price point with awesome components. Excuse my ignorance.
    I think the build is decent on the Ride, but what I'm looking for is a solid fork/shock at this price point, the Jeffsy AL Comp is the same $ and has a Pike/Monarch. The S-150 S is also the same $ and comes with full GX build but lower quality suspension.
    IMO drivetrain wears and breaks which are replaceable, but the suspension tends to last longer.
    My $0.02 is you get a little more from YT and Whyte currently for roughly the same price.

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    Iím looking at the British Edition, though. At the same price as the 2018 Whyte S-150 RS. Only benefit in my eyes to the Whyte is the carbon frame and being able to run both 29 and 27.5+. Other than that, the Meta BE comes with Fox factory suspension, Eagle GX drivetrain, renthal cockpit, E13 TRS Wheelset, etc. Whyte is using a lot of in house parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    I think the build is decent on the Ride, but what I'm looking for is a solid fork/shock at this price point, the Jeffsy AL Comp is the same $ and has a Pike/Monarch. The S-150 S is also the same $ and comes with full GX build but lower quality suspension.
    IMO drivetrain wears and breaks which are replaceable, but the suspension tends to last longer.
    My $0.02 is you get a little more from YT and Whyte currently for roughly the same price.
    Iím looking at the British Edition, though. At the same price as the 2018 Whyte S-150 RS. Only benefit in my eyes to the Whyte is the carbon frame and being able to run both 29 and 27.5+. Other than that, the Meta BE comes with Fox factory suspension, Eagle GX drivetrain, renthal cockpit, E13 TRS Wheelset, etc. Whyte is using a lot of in house parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBDiaz View Post
    Iím looking at the British Edition, though. At the same price as the 2018 Whyte S-150 RS. Only benefit in my eyes to the Whyte is the carbon frame and being able to run both 29 and 27.5+. Other than that, the Meta BE comes with Fox factory suspension, Eagle GX drivetrain, renthal cockpit, E13 TRS Wheelset, etc. Whyte is using a lot of in house parts.
    Between the BE and RS, the BE is a better build... IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    Between the BE and RS, the BE is a better build... IMO
    Right on. I think Iím gonna end up with the BE. Iím psyched about that bike. Good luck on your choice, let me know what you end up with!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBDiaz View Post
    Right on. I think Iím gonna end up with the BE. Iím psyched about that bike. Good luck on your choice, let me know what you end up with!!
    Leaning more towards building; aluminum raw frame with Pike/Monarch & E13 wheels, take my M8000 drivetrain and brakes off my current bike, and finish it with Raceface cockpit/dropper

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    The TR 29 is a bike I'm considering along with the Jeffsy and Whyte S-150.
    I really dig the Ride build color scheme, but the build is kind of weak. I'd emailed Commencal USA asking if the TR 29 would be part of the "A La Carte" program, and they said yes. They'll get frames in October for custom builds, they weren't clear on which color ways or more details.
    One the fence with building and buying built, could move 25% my stuff off my current 29er, but also would be nice to have something new and shiny.
    Nice! A La Carte looks like it ends up being pretty $$$ to build, judging by the A La Carte options for the other frames. I'd love a brushed aluminum color but my budget maxes out at ~$3k.

    Do you think the A La Carte TR 29er will exceed my budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robomatic View Post
    Nice! A La Carte looks like it ends up being pretty $$$ to build, judging by the A La Carte options for the other frames. I'd love a brushed aluminum color but my budget maxes out at ~$3k.

    Do you think the A La Carte TR 29er will exceed my budget?
    Just depends on what Commencal is looking to offer within the A La Carte program, you could call/email and ask them if they could do a "Ride Build" just with a Raw Aluminum frame rather than the Grey/Gold and see what they say.

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    I have the Whyte S-150 RS and love it. Really well made bike. I too am looking at the British edition. It has a killer suspension set up and looks amazing.

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    I'm interested in this bike as well. The geometry is kind of funky though on the website. The geo chart lists the fork length (A-C) as that of a 130mm Pike. None of the bikes come with a 130mm fork. No frame weight is listed either. I talked to someone at Commencal on the phone about this, as I'd like to do a frame up build, and he said the bike takes a 130-150mm fork but he wasn't sure what measurements the geo was done on. They didn't know what the frame weight is.

    I'm for sure interested in the bike, just would like to know more info before I put money into a frame. Especially since its a consumer direct brand that I won't be able to demo.
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    Want some reviews of the bike also, know the TR27 was a success, but making everything a littler larger to accommodate 29er wheels doesn't always make everything apples to apples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    Want some reviews of the bike also, know the TR27 was a success, but making everything a littler larger to accommodate 29er wheels doesn't always make everything apples to apples.
    Any chance that some of these sites will get the bike before itís released to test/review? How do you think itíll perform? Iím super psyched about this thing. The kit looks phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBDiaz View Post
    Any chance that some of these sites will get the bike before itís released to test/review? How do you think itíll perform? Iím super psyched about this thing. The kit looks phenomenal.
    Sure hope we get some reviews before the bike drops in October. People have been testing the Meta AM 29 already its also won a bunch of races already too. Seems odd they wouldn't offer the TR with the AM to testers seeing how aggressive all these manufactures have been in the "Trail" market.
    My 2 cents, if its as good as the current TR 27 and just a shorter travel version of the AM it should be excellent.

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    Anyone seen on the Commencal site, the "Availability" has now been pushed to December.

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    I noticed it's changed a few times recently, always farther out.

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    I was also pretty interested to buy this bike but the availability is too long. I think that I will (saddly) wait January for the new Jeffsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fobi View Post
    I was also pretty interested to buy this bike but the availability is too long. I think that I will (saddly) wait January for the new Jeffsy.
    Current Jeffsey has a pretty hefty sale as of today. I donít mind waiting till Dec for the Commencal. Itís got what I want.

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    The weight information has been released by Commencal : 14,8 kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fobi View Post
    The weight information has been released by Commencal : 14,8 kg
    Glad I decided to go in a different direction (didn't want to wait until December for a new bike). That's over 32lbs, my alloy Fuel EX build that I didn't really try to make light 30.1lbs. I think the Commencal would've been just a bit too long in the wheelbase for my liking anyways. Does look like I sweet bike though.
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    They doing a revamp of the Jeffsy? Haven't read or seen much about that...
    They're blowing out the 2018's, $2500 is a killer price for the AL Comp Jeffsy!
    I can wait for a Commencal, and I think I can get closer to 30lbs doing a custom build.

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    It's possible to gain some weight I think:
    • Cassette : XG-1275 : -200g or XG-1295 : -300g
    • Crankset : X01 or XX1 : - 100 g
    • Go tubeless : - 300 g ?
    • Go carbon for the stem : - 100 g


    I just tested the Spe Stumpjumper ST Expert 29 and the Trek Fuel EX 9.8 2019 but it's not the same price...

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    I didn't think the weight was too high considering the parts spec'd. There isn't anything fancy on it, all middle of the road or budget. I have a Chromag Surface that weighs about 31 pounds as a single speed, so 32 for full suspension and gears wouldn't bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fobi View Post
    It's possible to gain some weight I think:
    • Cassette : XG-1275 : -200g or XG-1295 : -300g
    • Crankset : X01 or XX1 : - 100 g
    • Go tubeless : - 300 g ?
    • Go carbon for the stem : - 100 g


    I just tested the Spe Stumpjumper ST Expert 29 and the Trek Fuel EX 9.8 2019 but it's not the same price...
    That's a start... IMO the 36 is a bit excessive, close to a pound can be saved going with a 34 also. And I like the Elite Performance over the Factory, also can save additional $$$. Wheels will also be a factor. So much to consider, but also so much more fun building than buying off the shelf/web.

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    Emailed them twice asking for some info about the frame and haven't gotten a reply in over a week. For direct sales that very disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    Emailed them twice asking for some info about the frame and haven't gotten a reply in over a week. For direct sales that very disappointing.
    Thatís odd! I always receive very quick replies. Are you in the US?

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    Yeah, I'm in the US. I used the Need Help form from the frame page so I'll try emailing them directly.

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    When are we going to actually going to get some reviews of this bike... If it's still going to release in December shouldn't testers have already ridden it? They announced the bike close to 6 months ago.
    The way Evil dropped the Offering is an example of how competitive this trail segment is. Everyone has a 130-140 travel bike now, so selling units comes down to marketing if you don't have repeat customers only interested in your brand. What better way to get free marketing than by having tester test the bikes.

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    2 weeks and finally got a response.
    Frame weight - Unknown until they receive the frames
    Tires - Will fit a 2.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    2 weeks and finally got a response.
    Frame weight - Unknown until they receive the frames
    Did they give you any hints when bikes are going to show up in US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noblige View Post
    Did they give you any hints when bikes are going to show up in US?
    Nope, what I wrote is all they said in the reply I received.

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    I've been eyeing this to replace my '18 Fuel EX. I noticed that they offer the frame with both 210x50mm and 210x55mm shocks. I shot them an email asking whether the frame actually is compatible with a 55mm stroke, or if that listing was a mistake:

    "The frame has been developed around a 210 x 50 mm shock, but the 210 x 55 is compatible as well."

    So, one could use a 55mm stroke shock and achieve ~140mm of travel.

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    I noticed that too when on the Euro site but I'm not seeing a shock selection on the US site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni L View Post
    I've been eyeing this to replace my '18 Fuel EX. I noticed that they offer the frame with both 210x50mm and 210x55mm shocks. I shot them an email asking whether the frame actually is compatible with a 55mm stroke, or if that listing was a mistake:

    "The frame has been developed around a 210 x 50 mm shock, but the 210 x 55 is compatible as well."

    So, one could use a 55mm stroke shock and achieve ~140mm of travel.
    That's kind of cool... Wonder if anyone would run a coil shock... Would give it a more aggressive look and completely different feel.

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    Ended up going with the Commencal Meta Trail V4.2 Race. A couple reviews came out in the last 2 months that rave about this bike. Suits my local terrain more, quite a bit cheaper (including my military discount), and Iíll be getting the bike way sooner. Iíll keep you guys posted! Thanks to everyone for your contribution and info!

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    I'm in the Air Force. How would I get a military discount?

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    It only applies to some of the bikes. Call with the bike youíre interested in and ask if they can apply the military discount to it! They will tell you how to go about the process! Good luck.

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    Spoke with them this morning about shipping timeframes for 2019 bikes - they have no idea. Apparently bikes haven't even left the port, so late December is probably earliest they will show up in US

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    I just preordered the frameset (XL, brushed). Building it with DVO Topaz
    @ 55mm stroke & Diamond @ 150mm. Gonna be sweet!

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    Anyone else think the reach numbers they posted are way off?

    Answered my own question. Seem pretty inline with modern aggressive 29ers like the Sentinel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni L View Post
    I just preordered the frameset (XL, brushed). Building it with DVO Topaz
    @ 55mm stroke & Diamond @ 150mm. Gonna be sweet!
    Sounds like a pretty sweet setup!
    I'll need an XL also, and the Brushed is the best looking with the Grey/Gold in close 2nd. So annoying that they don't have an ETA on anything from the mothership.

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    I'm checking them out on a la carte, and it looks like they're not charging for Fox forks and shocks? Surely this is a mistake on their site. If I put in the order, do you think they would honor it?

    2019 Meta TR British Edition 29-capture.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni L View Post
    I just preordered the frameset (XL, brushed). Building it with DVO Topaz
    @ 55mm stroke & Diamond @ 150mm. Gonna be sweet!
    I picked up a Topaz for my build as well.
    What mounting hardware are you going to use?
    I couldn't find the size listed in the specs on the DVO site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    I picked up a Topaz for my build as well.
    What mounting hardware are you going to use?
    I couldn't find the size listed in the specs on the DVO site.
    Their euro site says:

    SHOCK BUSHINGS 20x10 mm

    Sooo, I went with that. I ordered the hardware together with the frame through Commencal's webstore. If you mean the eyelet diameter, that's 12.7mm so the same as Fox, RS etc.

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    Was talking about the bushings. I'll order them from the Commercial store also.
    Just a bit concerned since this size isn't one I found when looking for it among all the other sizes DVO offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    Anyone else think the reach numbers they posted are way off?

    Answered my own question. Seem pretty inline with modern aggressive 29ers like the Sentinel.
    Also my thoughts, Commencal geometryís seems quite conservative (480cm reach =meta 29 XL). I ordered an XL frame while Iím 1m79, regarding the sizetabel I should ride a M/L frame.

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    Just preordered a large BE. Feels a bit strange buying a bike with no reviews or demo ride, but the spec/value is absolutely spot on. Figure if everyone loves the 650b, the 29 won't be far off. Stoked!

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    Waiting on Large BE as well. Currently have 2015 Meta TR 650b, hoping it will be a worthy upgrade. Seeing that Meta AM 29 just hit the store in Andorra, I hope December date won't slip again. It's been too long of a wait!

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    Sweet. According to the guys in Golden, CO, the December arrival is still on track, though I doubt they really know for sure. Just under half of the Large BE preorder bikes are spoken for so I'm glad I got my order in before the holidays.

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    Noticed they added the frame weight 3.6kg/7.94lbs. A bit heavier than i was expecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    Noticed they added the frame weight 3.6kg/7.94lbs. A bit heavier than i was expecting.
    Ouch... I might have to reassess my decision... Back to the basement with my foil hat.

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    33 lbs. seems a bit heavy but I'm not racing so I don't think that is a concern. Heck of a kit for 4k$. I haven't found any reviews yet.

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    This came up in an email conversation between me and Commencal:

    "The tubing / construction is exactly the same as the Meta AM"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    Ouch... I might have to reassess my decision... Back to the basement with my foil hat.
    Yeah, I'm assuming they weighed it w/o the shock. That puts it really close to alloy Transition Sentinel (9.61 lbs. w/ shock) , which was the main rival to the Meta BE for me. I'm assuming most other alloy 29ers that are meant to take a beating will be in that range.

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    Checked on the Knolly Fugitive and Fanatik has it listed at 8 lbs w/o shock. Couldn't find the Stumpy Evo weight which are the other bikes I'm interested in. Sentinel is out due to poor rear tire clearance.

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    Think I might have been over reacting... Most other AL bike are around this same weight. The Smuggler is just over 8lbs w/o a shock also. Can't find a SC Tallboy AL frame only weight, but presumably its in this range also.

    The TR29 is still on my list, just still looking at other options for a frame up build still.

    The Fezzari is very tempting also, especially at the BF discount. Seriously considering especially with the PE fork and GX drive train. BUT Commencal has the street cred over Fezzari.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    Update on the site:
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    4 DECEMBER 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by noblige View Post
    Update on the site:
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    Yew! Good eye. I'd been preparing myself for it to be delayed into January or something stupid like that, so this is great to see.

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    EU site shows Disponibilitť : 30 NOVEMBRE 2018 - so I think it's happening

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    I order a brushed aluminum frame this weekend... the 10% kicked in. Just couldn't help myself. Now I'm gathering parts. So stoked!

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    Just got off the phone with Commencal US rep - bikes indeed are coming in on 4th, and will be shipped out within 48 hours. Just two more weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noblige View Post
    Just got off the phone with Commencal US rep - bikes indeed are coming in on 4th, and will be shipped out within 48 hours. Just two more weeks!
    Sick! Thanks for the update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    I order a brushed aluminum frame this weekend... the 10% kicked in. Just couldn't help myself. Now I'm gathering parts. So stoked!
    Let us know how you build it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni L View Post
    This came up in an email conversation between me and Commencal:

    "The tubing / construction is exactly the same as the Meta AM"
    This and the similarities in geometry listed on the site make this pinkbike review pretty relevant to this thread. Still would be nice to have a proper review of the TR, though.

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review...m-29-team.html
    Commencal Meta TR 29 British Ed. // Commencal Absolut // Kona Process 111 // Surly Wednesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    I order a brushed aluminum frame this weekend... the 10% kicked in. Just couldn't help myself. Now I'm gathering parts. So stoked!
    Whatís the 10% that you speak of? Weíre the frames discounted?


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    Quote Originally Posted by incubus View Post
    Whatís the 10% that you speak of? Weíre the frames discounted?


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    With the Black Friday sale, the frames were available A La Carte and you could get 10% off. 10% covered the headset, shock bushings and shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureUnknown View Post
    With the Black Friday sale, the frames were available A La Carte and you could get 10% off. 10% covered the headset, shock bushings and shipping.
    Bummer for me... Iím in the market for the same frame. I checked out the Commencal site on BF and probably didnít click through far enough. I thought that the only discounted stuff was what was in the BF section of the website. Which seemed to be 2018 and earlier frames.


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    With the bike being "Available" tomorrow we're probably only going to get a YouTube video like they did for the Meta HT. Seems like they drop most their videos on a Tuesday.

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    Anybody receive theirs yet? Got pics and ride report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robomatic View Post
    Anybody receive theirs yet? Got pics and ride report?

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    US bikes are being shipped out this week. There might be some reports in Europe as they got theirs last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robomatic View Post
    Anybody receive theirs yet? Got pics and ride report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noblige View Post
    US bikes are being shipped out this week. There might be some reports in Europe as they got theirs last week.
    Mine arrives on Monday! Our trails are good and frozen right now in Wisconsin, so I might even get a ride in. I'll report back if I do.
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    Mine is arriving on Monday as well.

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    Easier for you orders than mine probably, I went a la Carte and added a headset and shock bushing. Hopefully it ships today... But I'm still waiting on some parts to show up for the build.

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    Would love to know the actual frame weight once someone receives their frame. I'm still on the fence about ordering a frame due to the posted weight.

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    Euro webstore shows january for the frame sets now. Hope that's for another batch of frames rather than the first batch being pushed back...

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    Shakedown ride report

    So, I took delivery of the Meta late Saturday and got a chance to ride our very cold, very frozen trails to get a feel for this bike. My first impressions are as follows:

    Unboxing/Building
    Everything went pretty smoothly out of the box, though there were a few issues. One thing I was a little disappointed about was the lack of tubeless valves; I'd expect a bike like this to come with a set in the box. That, and I would have liked to see some volume spacers included as well. These are relatively minor things though, and after a trip to the bike shop, I got to work seating the tires.

    Everything seemed to go well, but I promptly flatted while bedding in my brakes. I discovered the valve hole on the rear rim is a little too large, and that pressing the valve from side to side caused air to leak. After trying a couple different approaches (including adding another layer of tape), I finally decided to add an o ring on the inside of the rim, between the valve stem (stans) and rim bed. This solved the issue in case anyone else runs into this. The only other issues I discovered was low pressure in the KS lev, which was easily remedied with a shock pump, and the b adjustment on the eagle derailleur being slightly off (I recommend getting the eagle b gap adjustment tool if you don't have one).

    As far as adding/swapping parts goes, I changed the grips for DMR deathgrips, put a Victoria Airliner insert in the rear tire, popped a specialized zee cage and Oneup EDC pump on, and threaded in some Kona Wah Wah II alloys pedals. After torquing everything to spec and chopping the bars down to 780, I was ready to ride.

    First Ride Impressions
    Lifting the bike on and off of my roof rack, I was reminded that this is not a light bike. I'm not too worried about the weight though--as the cliche goes, it rides light. The other thing I noticed in the parking lot was that the long reach and slack head angle makes it a little difficult to manual, which is something I usually have no problem with. I expect I'll find the new balance point in no time, though.

    Once on the trail, the first thing I noticed is just how great this fork feels. I'm coming from a RS Pike, and the difference in stiffness, plushness, and improvement in tracking around rough corners is extremely noticeable. It's going to take a while to set up, given the wide array of adjustments, but first impressions are super positive.

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    The only negative I've noticed is the relatively tall seat tube. With the saddle dropped, I was constantly aware of how high my saddle still felt. As someone who does a fair amount of jumping, this a little worrisome, but not a deal breaker by any means.

    Climbing performance feels really good. I was getting quite a bit of bob from the fork when climbing out of the saddle, but I attribute that to poor setup. Again, it's going to take a few rides to get the adjustments sorted out on the 36. I did all of my climbing in the open mode and did not detect much movement in the rear (One strange thing, given the crazy width of the top tube, you can't see the shock at all to check for movement while pedaling).

    As far as descending goes, I don't really have a good sense of that yet, as the trails I was riding are relatively mellow. I did encounter some decent rock gardens however, and Commencal felt really plush going over the rocks. Can't wait to point it down a real grade.

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    Rode mine today for the first time - comparing to my 2015 Commencal Meta TR - this is definitely more aggressive and burlier bike, especially in BE build - which is exactly what I was looking for, as I'm starting to outgrow of my previous bike.
    I can second everything @jabber127 wrote - this bike wants to go downhill fast Don't expect to set any records climbing or on flats, not at 33lbs and these tires )
    But downhill it's awesome.
    Need to figure front / rear suspension - shock comes with 0.6" token installed, but still bottoms out easily at 25% sag. GRIP2 fork has too many knobs will take a while get it dialed.
    Much shorter seat tube than 27.5 Meta, should be able to put 200mm dropper no problem (stock 150mm for Large frame is no good).

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    Climbing

    Quote Originally Posted by noblige View Post
    Rode mine today for the first time - comparing to my 2015 Commencal Meta TR - this is definitely more aggressive and burlier bike, especially in BE build - which is exactly what I was looking for, as I'm starting to outgrow of my previous bike.
    I can second everything @jabber127 wrote - this bike wants to go downhill fast Don't expect to set any records climbing or on flats, not at 33lbs and these tires )
    But downhill it's awesome.
    Need to figure front / rear suspension - shock comes with 0.6" token installed, but still bottoms out easily at 25% sag. GRIP2 fork has too many knobs will take a while get it dialed.
    Much shorter seat tube than 27.5 Meta, should be able to put 200mm dropper no problem (stock 150mm for Large frame is no good).

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    Besides being a bit heavy, how is the steep seat angle feeling? Can you tell itís helping out on the climbs? Is it at least an efficient climber? My brother had a 2016 Meta AM and it sucked climbing. Felt like it was wallowing in the travel and like my weight was way back over the rear tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noblige View Post
    Much shorter seat tube than 27.5 Meta, should be able to put 200mm dropper no problem (stock 150mm for Large frame is no good).

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    Man you must have sized down; my 150 post is almost slammed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabber127 View Post
    Man you must have sized down; my 150 post is almost slammed.
    Did you feel like the seat angle helped your positioning on climbs? Pretty efficient despite the weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subyguy View Post
    Did you feel like the seat angle helped your positioning on climbs? Pretty efficient despite the weight?
    Yeah the bike climbs well. It has a steeper STA than my previous bike, but also has a 15mm longer reach, so I didn't really notice the steeper STA that much; the combination results in a natural feeling climbing position imo.
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    Nice. What were you riding before this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subyguy View Post
    Nice. What were you riding before this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by subyguy View Post
    Besides being a bit heavy, how is the steep seat angle feeling? Can you tell itís helping out on the climbs? Is it at least an efficient climber? My brother had a 2016 Meta AM and it sucked climbing. Felt like it was wallowing in the travel and like my weight was way back over the rear tire.
    STA is about the same as my 2015 Meta TR (degree steeper I think), climbs alright, I keep shock open even on fire roads.
    Meta AM is much bigger bike - no way you are climbing 160mm bike without shock locked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabber127 View Post
    Man you must have sized down; my 150 post is almost slammed.
    Don't know I'm 6'00" with 34" inseam, got it in Large - it's 175mm KS Lev in the picture, stock 150mm would probably be above minimum insertion

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