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    Next Year will be the year I clear the wall?

    Since we're all snowed in, what's some technical feature you want to make on the Front Range or in Colorado that you haven't made yet?

    Last year was a good year for me in achieving riding goals. I made the stairs at Dakota and the Wall on Lair. I also mastered all the drops on Dakota and rode that giant slab (steep) at the end where the trail meets the road. This year I want to make the Wall at Deer Creek. There's two drops on Free Lunch in GJ that I am going to hit this year too. What's on the list for you guys?

    This was our group ride last year at Deer Creek. There are at least 5 guys who can make this section in our group. I made it about 10ft from the last water bar. Apparently not good enough to make the video.

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/34540761?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/34540761">2011 0702 BOMB Deer Creek "The Wall"</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/denverbomb">Colossians TwoEight</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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    Dayum... those boys makin' it look EASY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Since we're all snowed in, what's some technical feature you want to make on the Front Range or in Colorado that you haven't made yet?

    Last year was a good year for me in achieving riding goals. I made the stairs at Dakota and the Wall on Lair. I also mastered all the drops on Dakota and rode that giant slab (steep) at the end where the trail meets the road. This year I want to make the Wall at Deer Creek. There's two drops on Free Lunch in GJ that I am going to hit this year too. What's on the list for you guys?

    This was our group ride last year at Deer Creek. There are at least 5 guys who can make this section in our group. I made it about 10ft from the last water bar. Apparently not good enough to make the video.

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/34540761?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/34540761">2011 0702 BOMB Deer Creek "The Wall"</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/denverbomb">Colossians TwoEight</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
    If you're not making it from the bridge, you're not making it (some would say from the trailhead but those guys are crazy). After all these years, I've still only seen one person who successfully rode it on their first attempt.
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    Deer Creek is awesome, that section of the trail has beaten me many times. I have made it and celebrated at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWF View Post
    If you're not making it from the bridge, you're not making it (some would say from the trailhead but those guys are crazy). After all these years, I've still only seen one person who successfully rode it on their first attempt.
    Who Says So?

    I always find it interesting how people can spend so much time taking a dump on other people's accomplishments. Can you make the section in the video? If you can make it from the bridge then you can call the shots if not pipe down.

    That's one of the most challenging sections around Denver and my hat goes off to anyone who can make it regardless of where they start. I can't do it yet but like I said, I want to conquer this section of trail in the video. And yes I do it in sections. People who make this are better than 95% of people who get out at the trailhead. Also as many CO natives have told me what you see in the video now is much harder than back in the day when the stairs weren't in and before all the erosion.

    DWF do you have any goals or the next year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Who Says So?

    I always find it interesting how people can spend so much time taking a dump on other people's accomplishments. Can you make the section in the video? If you can make it from the bridge then you can call the shots if not pipe down.

    That's one of the most challenging sections around Denver and my hat goes off to anyone who can make it regardless of where they start. I can't do it yet but like I said, I want to conquer this section of trail in the video. And yes I do it in sections. People who make this are better than 95% of people who get out at the trailhead. Also as many CO natives have told me what you see in the video now is much harder than back in the day when the stairs weren't in and before all the erosion.

    DWF do you have any goals or the next year?
    The Wall was actually pretty "easy" back in the mid-90's. Well... relatively speaking.

    And for the record - I agree that to "do The Wall" you have to make it from where the bridge/hiker trail comes in. That 1st 1/3rd is arguably worse than the rocky upper section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    I always find it interesting how people can spend so much time taking a dump on other people's accomplishments. Can you make the section in the video? If you can make it from the bridge then you can call the shots if not pipe down.
    He's not setting the bar, just letting you know where it is.

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    Will this year be the year I cleared the??? I guess I should quit now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loudpawlz View Post
    He's not setting the bar, just letting you know where it is.
    I am going to be sorry I ever posted this thread here. Hey its "the Wall" police they want your video and thread renamed. I should have realized this was going to but such a point of contention.

    Like I said I just want to clear the top section because I can already make everything before that. Everyone I have ridden with calls the section between the water bars "the wall". It was the bar set for me from the beginning.

    My very sarcastic apologies for offending the MTB gods with my irreverence and false claims of conquering. Next time we head out to ride it why don't you guys show us how its done.

    So what should I call my personal goal that won't get me in so much trouble?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    The Wall was actually pretty "easy" back in the mid-90's. Well... relatively speaking.

    And for the record - I agree that to "do The Wall" you have to make it from where the bridge/hiker trail comes in. That 1st 1/3rd is arguably worse than the rocky upper section.
    So I am corrected on the starting point. But I have to disagree that the 1st 1/3rd is harder than the rest simply because I make that part every time and have yet to make the upper section.

    So maybe "is this the year clear the last 3rd" is a better goal?
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    Yeah, the "wall" is from the bridge. And the "stairs" on Dakota is from the Zorro intersection, not from the switchback resty point.
    Since when did Need have anything to do with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek View Post
    Yeah, the "wall" is from the bridge. And the "stairs" on Dakota is from the Zorro intersection, not from the switchback resty point.
    Yes got DR stairs covered, DC wall is much harder.

    When I first read your post I thought you were saying I had to ride the stairs on Zorro all the way through the intersection to the top up the stairs. I was thinking, screw that. Those things are pretty gnarly even going down. I can make it up about a third of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    So I am corrected on the starting point. But I have to disagree that the 1st 1/3rd is harder than the rest simply because I make that part every time and have yet to make the upper section.

    So maybe "is this the year clear the last 3rd" is a better goal?
    I'm just bitter because I'm usually so fvcking blasted by the time I get to the bridge that my attempts on The Wall are pitiful at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    I'm just bitter because I'm usually so fvcking blasted by the time I get to the bridge that my attempts on The Wall are pitiful at best.
    Apparently "the Wall" makes us all bitter.

    Anyone else have any riding goals this year?
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    My only goal is to ride Cataract Ridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    My only goal is to ride Cataract Ridge.
    Being one of those terrible people who moved here because my job has an HQ here I don't know that one.
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    You threw the derail switch when you misread DWFs post and then ducked under my sarcasm.

    If it helps. Good luck with the wall, that is a tough section of trail no matter where you start from

    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    I am going to be sorry I ever posted this thread here. Hey its "the Wall" police they want your video and thread renamed. I should have realized this was going to but such a point of contention.

    Like I said I just want to clear the top section because I can already make everything before that. Everyone I have ridden with calls the section between the water bars "the wall". It was the bar set for me from the beginning.

    My very sarcastic apologies for offending the MTB gods with my irreverence and false claims of conquering. Next time we head out to ride it why don't you guys show us how its done.

    So what should I call my personal goal that won't get me in so much trouble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loudpawlz View Post
    You threw the derail switch when you misread DWFs post and then ducked under my sarcasm.

    If it helps. Good luck with the wall, that is a tough section of trail no matter where you start from
    Thanks for the well wishing. I don't know DWF, sincerely where did I misread him? I thought it was fairly clear we are not making "the wall" from his perspective and understanding.
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    Wilson, you will never make the wall, just accept it.

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    I wanna regain my nerve. After a bad crash I have not been the same rider. As far as physical I want to enter an endurance race. Like the Steamboat Stinger. And I wanna do Georgia Pass without stopping, much. Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Who Says So?
    Me for one. Most others who ride at DC regularly do too. The "wall" starts at the bridge because that's where the wall, as a feature, starts.

    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    I always find it interesting how people can spend so much time taking a dump on other people's accomplishments. Can you make the section in the video? If you can make it from the bridge then you can call the shots if not pipe down.
    I spent no time at all on it. I wrote two short sentences, one if you just count the starting point comment. Nor did I dump on other peoples accomplishments. What I did do was say, in a manner of speaking, is that riding the wall in sections is not riding the wall. If you want to claim you can clear the wall you have to ride it from the bridge and as I noted, there are those who claim the wall starts at the trail head. Sure, they're crazy as hell, fundamentalist always are, but someday I'd like to be able to pull it off.

    Yes, I can ride the section in the vid, I don't make it every time, or half the time, or even 75% of the time these days. I find that it's very condition sensitive and the last few years I've been riding a skinny tired full rigid bike which makes it a bit more delicate proposition. Plus I'm old & fat. And yes, I have also made it from the bridge since the stairs have gone in on my old hardtail. Can I have an opinion, yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    That's one of the most challenging sections around Denver and my hat goes off to anyone who can make it regardless of where they start. I can't do it yet but like I said, I want to conquer this section of trail in the video. And yes I do it in sections. People who make this are better than 95% of people who get out at the trailhead. Also as many CO natives have told me what you see in the video now is much harder than back in the day when the stairs weren't in and before all the erosion
    I agree it's one of the most challenging trail features in the Metro area and it is harder today than it was pre-stairs. Conquering that section of the wall is a fine goal, session the **** out of it and do yourself proud. But. Conquering the whole wall is a better goal, and then you can claim to have cleaned the wall with a straight face and no asterisks. Another goal you might have is reducing your hypersensitivity.

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    Yes, my goals for '12 are to survive it, be happy, and ride my bike lots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWF View Post
    Me for one. Most others who ride at DC regularly do too. The "wall" starts at the bridge because that's where the wall, as a feature, starts.

    I spent no time at all on it. I wrote two short sentences, one if you just count the starting point comment. Nor did I dump on other peoples accomplishments. What I did do was say, in a manner of speaking, is that riding the wall in sections is not riding the wall. If you want to claim you can clear the wall you have to ride it from the bridge and as I noted, there are those who claim the wall starts at the trail head. Sure, they're crazy as hell, fundamentalist always are, but someday I'd like to be able to pull it off.

    Yes, I can ride the section in the vid, I don't make it every time, or half the time, or even 75% of the time these days. I find that it's very condition sensitive and the last few years I've been riding a skinny tired full rigid bike which makes it a bit more delicate proposition. Plus I'm old & fat. And yes, I have also made it from the bridge since the stairs have gone in on my old hardtail. Can I have an opinion, yet?

    I agree it's one of the most challenging trail features in the Metro area and it is harder today than it was pre-stairs. Conquering that section of the wall is a fine goal, session the **** out of it and do yourself proud. But. Conquering the whole wall is a better goal, and then you can claim to have cleaned the wall with a straight face and no asterisks. Another goal you might have is reducing your hypersensitivity.

    Yes, my goals for '12 are to survive it, be happy, and ride my bike lots.
    Look lets bury the hatchet. Every time something about the DC Wall gets posted this happens. You have your opinion, that's great. You are obviously a good rider and have earned the right to speak to what you think the wall is.

    I find that "most" riders consider the water bar to be the beginning of the wall on the trail. Mostly when I ride they are congregated around the lower water bar making runs at the wall. Maybe they are second generation folks have lost your understanding and you are doing your duty to remind us that's not how it was in old days. Again I just wanted to complete the last section, that was my goal for this year. Its a really subjective standard. So what if there's an astrix according to you. Its my goal. There's no governing body or judges or written rules. Like I said when I moved here the wall was defined as water bar to water bar. When someone makes that section they've cleaned the wall for our group. I wasn't really looking for your approval or permission, I was more interested in starting a discussion about what people were aiming to do on their bikes next year.


    Hypersensitive? Well maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brokefork View Post
    Wilson, you will never make the wall, just accept it.
    You're right. Okay I accept it.
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    Heh, this forum section sure does have alot of people waving their e-peen around.

    I'll admit that I'm a neewwb, my goals for next season are to clear the stairs at Dakota, a few of the rock garden sections going uphill on Morrison Slide, and to explore more trails.

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    Back when that entire section was actually rideable by mortals (even me) it was assumed that you had to at least start before the little stream at the bottom if not from the parking lot. I would never stop and rest just before launching up it and could make it most times about 1/2 way up, about to just before where the stairs are now. Start again and sometimes actually get over the top. That was then.

    Then the stairs got put in and the entire climb (Wall of Shame, yes, I coined that name years ago, thank you) just got gnarlier and gnarlier. That first "waterbar" down at the bottom got taller and taller and I couldn't get up over it. Then it got worse from there.

    Now it's almost a trials climb from bottom to top, not really "rideable" like way back when.
    If I had my choice I'd say, doesn't matter how ridiculous it is now, to say you cleaned The Wall means you started from at least before the little stream at the bottom. Which actually seems impossible unless you trials your way up.
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    It definitely doesn't count if you trials hop up from the waterbar.

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    Good on you Wilsonblur. I have a couple goals for next year. Finish the B68 in Breck and be able to clean the first climb S on Sourdough out of Camp Dick. Haven't been able to do that in many years.
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    You guys need some people with badges to set the rules for this, too many variables as to what the WALL really entails. I rode down it, does that count?

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    I always thought "clearing the stairs" at Dakota Ridge meant taking a left at the top of Zorro (on top of the saddle) and cleaning the first set of, what, six, then the next ridiculous set of stacked waterbars that I never came close to climbing. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disdom View Post
    Heh, this forum section sure does have alot of people waving their e-peen around.

    I'll admit that I'm a neewwb, my goals for next season are to clear the stairs at Dakota, a few of the rock garden sections going uphill on Morrison Slide, and to explore more trails.
    I should have added the sections on Morrison too. We have been riding the north side pre snow. There are at least 2-3 sections I can't fully make yet. I was also thinking there are a couple of places on Whipperwhil and White Ranch that I haven't made yet either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr View Post
    Good on you Wilsonblur. I have a couple goals for next year. Finish the B68 in Breck and be able to clean the first climb S on Sourdough out of Camp Dick. Haven't been able to do that in many years.
    I haven't had the pleasure of riding Sourdough yet. Got any pics?
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    As far as goals for this season:
    -Knock at least a half hour off BaileyHundo from last year, get under 8:30.
    -Podium a DH race or two
    -Podium a SuperD
    -Do well at Trestle Enduro
    -Cleaning the Wall would be sweet (from the lot is the goal)
    -Actually get registered in some of these longer races, and be satisfied with my result if I do get in.
    -Ride some new-to-me trails: Molas Pass, Cortez trails and a bunch of stuff around CB is the focus this year
    -Have a metric sh1t-ton of fun on my bike with friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcguy View Post
    I always thought "clearing the stairs" at Dakota Ridge meant taking a left at the top of Zorro (on top of the saddle) and cleaning the first set of, what, six, then the next ridiculous set of stacked waterbars that I never came close to climbing. YMMV.
    You mean the ones this this video? About half way through this vid there's some shots of guys making the upper section of stairs. Can anybody ride all the stairs up Zorro?


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    Quote Originally Posted by icegeek View Post
    And the "stairs" on Dakota is from the Zorro intersection, not from the switchback resty point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Being one of those terrible people who moved here because my job has an HQ here I don't know that one.
    Last year's failed attempt.
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    Here's a shot of the climb I was talking about. Imagine this for just about a mile with an average grade probably around 8-10%. Just a guess at the grade. It's steep though.

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    "You mean the ones this this video? About half way through this vid there's some shots of guys making the upper section of stairs. Can anybody ride all the stairs up Zorro?"

    Them's the ones. If you're asking about the very first set of stairs just before the saddle (coming up Zorro) I've never heard of anybody cleaning them. And I'm sure someone has.
    The best I ever did (while combining the two sets of stairs from the saddle) was the first set then maybe the first two on the second section. The last rider coming over backwards at the end of your vid? Enough of that and I eventually gave up trying that second section.
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    I think xcguy's goal should be to get back on the bike! Doit. It's still fun. We promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron View Post
    I think xcguy's goal should be to get back on the bike! Doit. It's still fun. We promise.
    The older I get the better I was. I'm really enjoying not coming back from injury, I really am. I've been toying with doing my own brand of shuttling: I find the longest smoothish hill to climb--hopefully miles and miles of up at about 5 mph--and I get picked up at the top for a ride back home.

    I mean, how much damage can I do slowly riding uphill? Level riding and downhill riding was my downfall a year ago, might as well try something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKD-RDR View Post
    Wow, that's man's work you guys were doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr View Post
    Here's a shot of the climb I was talking about. Imagine this for just about a mile with an average grade probably around 8-10%. Just a guess at the grade. It's steep though.

    photo credit to dirtydoug.
    There's never enough suspension for a trail like that, not that it would help you as you climb up it at 3mph. This is a torturous sport. Why do we do this stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron View Post
    As far as goals for this season:
    -Knock at least a half hour off BaileyHundo from last year, get under 8:30.
    -Podium a DH race or two
    -Podium a SuperD
    -Do well at Trestle Enduro
    -Cleaning the Wall would be sweet (from the lot is the goal)
    -Actually get registered in some of these longer races, and be satisfied with my result if I do get in.
    -Ride some new-to-me trails: Molas Pass, Cortez trails and a bunch of stuff around CB is the focus this year
    -Have a metric sh1t-ton of fun on my bike with friends
    Nicely ambitious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Nicely ambitious.
    Heh. And I feel like The Wall is the most ambitious piece of the puzzle. That thing is burly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Wow, that's man's work you guys were doing.
    If Larry and Curly had HTFU and done the shuttle the night before we could have finished before dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron View Post
    As far as goals for this season:
    -Knock at least a half hour off BaileyHundo from last year, get under 8:30.
    -Podium a DH race or two
    -Podium a SuperD
    -Do well at Trestle Enduro
    -Cleaning the Wall would be sweet (from the lot is the goal)
    -Actually get registered in some of these longer races, and be satisfied with my result if I do get in.
    -Ride some new-to-me trails: Molas Pass, Cortez trails and a bunch of stuff around CB is the focus this year
    -Have a metric sh1t-ton of fun on my bike with friends
    You, sir, are a well-rounded mountain cyclist. I'm assuming the beer drinking happens during the metric sh1t-ton part of that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loudpawlz View Post
    You, sir, are a well-rounded mountain cyclist. I'm assuming the beer drinking happens during the metric sh1t-ton part of that list.

    Thank you. I like to try hard on my bicycles.

    Correct on the beer drinking. It also occurs in the pits of the DH races. I've found it helps to strike a balance of beer and red bull for max performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron View Post
    Heh. And I feel like The Wall is the most ambitious piece of the puzzle. That thing is burly.
    Yeah well the way you want to do it from the parking lot makes the degree of difficulty extreme. I take the easier approach especially early in the season. I stop at the bridge because I am gassed or before the first water bar and struggle for air. I'd love to do the whole thing. I want to be able to make the top section regularly first then try it all together. Maybe by July I'll be in shape enough to give it a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    You mean the ones this this video? About half way through this vid there's some shots of guys making the upper section of stairs. Can anybody ride all the stairs up Zorro?
    Nice video! My goal, after that video reminded me, is to clean Morrison slide going up.It beats me everytime.

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    Now, do you do guys do Morrison slide going up on the north or south side? I have always gone up the south side as it seems harder, go to the top, do some of the fun rocks/ martian landscape stuff, then go back down the south side again, swing around to red rocks trail and then hit dakota.

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    I think it's a little more fun to descend the north side, less switchbacks, you can open it up a bit. Theres also a few scary natural gaps if you're feeling saucy. Its also less ruthless of a climb, but the pride involved with greasing either the whole southside(which I haven't done, but keeps me coming back), or even just most of the moves sure does feel good.

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    You guys need more family activities (ie, a 5 year old and a 4 month old). My goal is just to hit all the rides within a half hour of my house at least once - who cares what I ride up vs. hike up. This also means I haven't ridden Deer Ck since before the stairs (my goal back then was nonstop to the top on every ride).

    But what usually happens is I'll get stuck in a rut of just doing the closest / shortest one that I can do in an hour. And then try to keep fast guys like flowtron in sight at the WP Enduro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretAgent23skidoo View Post
    You guys need more family activities (ie, a 5 year old and a 4 month old). My goal is just to hit all the rides within a half hour of my house at least once - who cares what I ride up vs. hike up. This also means I haven't ridden Deer Ck since before the stairs (my goal back then was nonstop to the top on every ride).

    But what usually happens is I'll get stuck in a rut of just doing the closest / shortest one that I can do in an hour. And then try to keep fast guys like flowtron in sight at the WP Enduro.
    Haul the kids up Deer Creek behind you in a Burley bike trailer. Train them to say things like "faster daddy. Why are you so slow, daddy? Come on, daddy, give the Wall one more shot!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr View Post
    Here's a shot of the climb I was talking about. Imagine this for just about a mile with an average grade probably around 8-10%. Just a guess at the grade. It's steep though.

    photo credit to dirtydoug.
    That section looks similar to the last 1/2 mile of Crosier, and what a PITA climb that is! Though I still love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Look lets bury the hatchet. Every time something about the DC Wall gets posted this happens. You have your opinion, that's great. You are obviously a good rider and have earned the right to speak to what you think the wall is.

    I find that "most" riders consider the water bar to be the beginning of the wall on the trail. Mostly when I ride they are congregated around the lower water bar making runs at the wall. Maybe they are second generation folks have lost your understanding and you are doing your duty to remind us that's not how it was in old days. Again I just wanted to complete the last section, that was my goal for this year. Its a really subjective standard. So what if there's an astrix according to you. Its my goal. There's no governing body or judges or written rules. Like I said when I moved here the wall was defined as water bar to water bar. When someone makes that section they've cleaned the wall for our group. I wasn't really looking for your approval or permission, I was more interested in starting a discussion about what people were aiming to do on their bikes next year.


    Hypersensitive? Well maybe?
    What hatchet? I made a comment about riding the wall. You went all emo. Like I said, ride the hell out of it & I hope you exceed all your goals this year & beyond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWF View Post
    What hatchet? I made a comment about riding the wall. You went all emo. Like I said, ride the hell out of it & I hope you exceed all your goals this year & beyond.
    Hatchet cause you seem kinda pissed off still. I was trying to move on and make peace. Emo cause there were no emotions in your repsonses or now?

    You didn't just make a comment, your whole point was that I really wasn't climbing the wall and failed to pay attention to the point of the whole thread which had very little to do with the wall at all but rather personal goals. You wanted to argue about where the wall starts, I don't care. I am fine saying I cleared the upper section and not the whole thing. The title of the thread was just to get people to talk about goals. You get that part now.

    You should take notice that even in your own response some guys say the wall is from the parking lot and if you go by their standard you aren't really riding it either. You dismissed their standard as them being crazy, what if I think it's crazy to ride it from the bridge and call it the wall when I do it in sections? But you emphatically say its from the bridge and everyone knows that, except those guys that think it's from the parking lot. Or the other guys who say its from the bottom water bar. Not everyone agrees on what the wall is. That's all I am saying.

    And thanks, I will ride it till I make it this year. Once I make the top section then I will start trying to ride it complete from the bridge cause I didn't know that's how it's done. I dont think I'll ever be enough rider to make it from the parking lot. I'll never make your mark with a hardtail or fully rigid. Dude you rock! It's impressive that you can make it with either. I rode my HT at the Morrison Slide last week and couldn't believe how much traction it gave up to my FS bike on the technical climbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disdom View Post
    Now, do you do guys do Morrison slide going up on the north or south side? I have always gone up the south side as it seems harder, go to the top, do some of the fun rocks/ martian landscape stuff, then go back down the south side again, swing around to red rocks trail and then hit dakota.
    I agree that the south is harder. I can find that I can make the North side more often that not. And the south side, well still 3 sections or more I need work on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretAgent23skidoo View Post
    You guys need more family activities (ie, a 5 year old and a 4 month old). My goal is just to hit all the rides within a half hour of my house at least once - who cares what I ride up vs. hike up. This also means I haven't ridden Deer Ck since before the stairs (my goal back then was nonstop to the top on every ride).

    But what usually happens is I'll get stuck in a rut of just doing the closest / shortest one that I can do in an hour. And then try to keep fast guys like flowtron in sight at the WP Enduro.
    Just wait till your kids are bigger. All three of mine ride now. They are 12, 10, and 6. One of my goals is to ride once a week as a family and take them to Moab in the fall. Last year we started riding on Wednesdays every week and they started loving it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    Hatchet cause you seem kinda pissed off still. I was trying to move on and make peace. Emo cause there were no emotions in your repsonses or now?

    You didn't just make a comment, your whole point was that I really wasn't climbing the wall and failed to pay attention to the point of the whole thread which had very little to do with the wall at all but rather personal goals. You wanted to argue about where the wall starts, I don't care. I am fine saying I cleared the upper section and not the whole thing. The title of the thread was just to get people to talk about goals. You get that part now.

    You should take notice that even in your own response some guys say the wall is from the parking lot and if you go by their standard you aren't really riding it either. You dismissed their standard as them being crazy, what if I think it's crazy to ride it from the bridge and call it the wall when I do it in sections? But you emphatically say its from the bridge and everyone knows that, except those guys that think it's from the parking lot. Or the other guys who say its from the bottom water bar. Not everyone agrees on what the wall is. That's all I am saying.

    And thanks, I will ride it till I make it this year. Once I make the top section then I will start trying to ride it complete from the bridge cause I didn't know that's how it's done. I dont think I'll ever be enough rider to make it from the parking lot. I'll never make your mark with a hardtail or fully rigid. Dude you rock! It's impressive that you can make it with either. I rode my HT at the Morrison Slide last week and couldn't believe how much traction it gave up to my FS bike on the technical climbs.
    Doood, am I going to have to start using smiley faces with you? Go back and read the whole thread again starting with your post. I wasn't pissed then and I'm not now. Look ->

    Yes, I know some crazy people say the wall begins at the trail head. I know some of these crazy people and some of them are my friends and post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWF View Post
    Doood, am I going to have to start using smiley faces with you? Go back and read the whole thread again starting with your post. I wasn't pissed then and I'm not now. Look ->

    Yes, I know some crazy people say the wall begins at the trail head. I know some of these crazy people and some of them are my friends and post here.
    So happy and slightly over the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    My only goal is to ride Cataract Ridge.
    Ride? You mean hike-a-bike it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno View Post
    Ride? You mean hike-a-bike it.
    Wait... there's a difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur View Post
    So I am corrected on the starting point. But I have to disagree that the 1st 1/3rd is harder than the rest simply because I make that part every time and have yet to make the upper section.

    So maybe "is this the year clear the last 3rd" is a better goal?
    Haha. The starting point is where you want it to be. Kudos to your buddies for making that technical climb. It doesn't matter if it doesn't fit others' definition. Great accomplishment and great target.

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    Cranky people in this thread. Everyone needs to get out for a ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    Wait... there's a difference?
    Of course there is. You're with a hot chick, would you rather just walk and hold hands with her or would you wanna ride her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno View Post
    Of course there is. You're with a hot chick, would you rather just walk and hold hands with her or would you wanna ride her?
    It depends on whether or not she was my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLampitt View Post
    Cranky people in this thread. Everyone needs to get out for a ride!
    So true. Someone posted earlier that the wall makes him cranky, not riding makes everyone cranky. We are riding the road at Lookout tomorrow. It'll have to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    It depends on whether or not she was my wife.
    Back on topic. Cataract Ridge is on to do list this year too. However my route will probably different than yours. Start at Waterton finish in Durango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno View Post
    Start at Waterton finish in Durango.
    I'm sure that'll be Skrd's route too.
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    With my new 29er I hope to complete ORAMM this year....and at some point ride in Colorado, Moab etc....

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    Made it up the wall this morning for the first time. In sections of course, but from where the stairs start to up and over the last water bar. I've never cleared that section before.
    Hope everyone is having a good weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosayno View Post
    Back on topic. Cataract Ridge is on to do list this year too. However my route will probably different than yours. Start at Waterton finish in Durango.
    This whole "herniated disk" thing sure had screwed up my summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonns View Post
    Made it up the wall this morning for the first time. In sections of course, but from where the stairs start to up and over the last water bar. I've never cleared that section before.
    Hope everyone is having a good weekend!
    very nice, good to hear someone is getting better instead of worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkaredShtles View Post
    This whole "herniated disk" thing sure had screwed up my summer.

    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

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