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    Let's talk a little bikepacking.....

    I have a couple short trips i want to do this summer! Ive asked a couple of you and have gotten some suggestions on sleeping bag suggestions/ bivy/ tent. I have only scratched the surface on gear required. Here are a few packs that i do have. Along with a handlebar bag/strap for sleeping bag.
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    I have another bag on the way made by a friend joe- one of the t.i.t.s. crew you can check out his Jpaks here.


    I know it all comes down to needs vs. what i think i need. None of the initial trips will be huge- mainly just a trial and error and to get out. I know opinions will vary from bare minimum to going all out. I would just appreciate your thoughts.

    I guess my questions are what have you found that works- what doesn't- ideas for cooking- I know lidarman had some pretty cool beer can stoves. Bear bags for food-? I have the hiker pro filter bigger- but will suffice. PM me if you have some stuff you thought you might use but didnt or may want to get rid of cheap


    and of course pics are always welcome!

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    Peebs here is a full write up on a CT trip a couple years ago with full gear list here

    I was talking to Joe this weekend about getting a couple frame bags rolling vs loading most of my gear in my pack. Luis also had a really cool handlebar bag that I am going to look into riding Jacks this weekend.

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    Jay- thanks man i remember reading that- i will read back through it and take some notes!
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    I sold my much loved UL Hennessy Hammock to a friend before I moved here. Figured the weather might allow a different type of shelter.

    I'll be happy to help you put all that gear to good use, experimenting is half the fun. I have a ways to go before I consider my setup dialed. Plus there's always someone who rides with an impossibly lightweight setup that makes you scratch your head.

    Here's my and a friend's setup for some renegade bikepacking.



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    Hoping to get in on a few on those trips this year.

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    Be sure to check out bikepacking.net if you haven't already.

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    Nice looking bags!

    I'm not normally a weight weenie, but bikepacking is the one discipline that cutting weight will definitely increase your enjoyment of the sport. If you want to feel like you're actually mountain biking, go as light as possible, bring as few items as possible, and remember that you need to leave plenty of room for food and water.

    Since you mentioned sleeping arrangements, I'll share mine. Homemade silnylon tarp. Packs the size of nalgene. Weighs less than a pound. Comfortably sleeps two. Can be pitched in a variety of configurations. Cost me $40 to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ingluis View Post
    I sold my much loved UL Hennessy Hammock to a friend before I moved here. Figured the weather might allow a different type of shelter.

    I'll be happy to help you put all that gear to good use, experimenting is half the fun. I have a ways to go before I consider my setup dialed. Plus there's always someone who rides with an impossibly lightweight setup that makes you scratch your head.

    Here's my and a friend's setup for some renegade bikepacking.



    Lots of info at bikepacking.net

    What are those bags that fit inside the rear triangle? They look pretty cool.

    Is that Central Florida by any chance? I used to live there and that looks a lot like Croom or Ocala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedmindset View Post
    Nice looking bags!

    I'm not normally a weight weenie, but bikepacking is the one discipline that cutting weight will definitely increase your enjoyment of the sport. If you want to feel like you're actually mountain biking, go as light as possible, bring as few items as possible, and remember that you need to leave plenty of room for food and water.

    Since you mentioned sleeping arrangements, I'll share mine. Homemade silnylon tarp. Packs the size of nalgene. Weighs less than a pound. Comfortably sleeps two. Can be pitched in a variety of configurations. Cost me $40 to make.
    Thats pretty sweet

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedmindset View Post
    I'll share mine. Homemade silnylon tarp. Packs the size of nalgene. Weighs less than a pound. Comfortably sleeps two. Can be pitched in a variety of configurations. Cost me $40 to make.
    Really, Really liking that tarp setup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomegrownMN View Post
    Really, Really liking that tarp setup!
    Ditto.

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    PM Slower than Snot. He does the Ride the Divide almost every year (except for last year when the bus lines 'misplaced' his bike). He's got a good handle on what it takes to bikepack light and inexpensively!
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    Quote Originally Posted by casey View Post
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    Thanks for the heads up Casey

    Just signed up myself. 50 spots left for those that want....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomegrownMN View Post
    Really, Really liking that tarp setup!
    Quote Originally Posted by ingluis View Post
    Ditto.
    yes that looks pretty sweet! - I guess im just convinced i will have downpours all night- in that case the bivy/tent aspect is appealing as well as the Eno hammock ive seen little e's set up and it looks pretty awesome! You just need trees!

    I can already see Joe's drawing board with this tarp set up all sketched out??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetigirl View Post
    PM Slower than Snot. He does the Ride the Divide almost every year (except for last year when the bus lines 'misplaced' his bike). He's got a good handle on what it takes to bikepack light and inexpensively!
    yah he did a nice youtube of his set up last year- but did not get to test it out.


    i can see myself so loaded down with crap i dont need i'll be walking up every hill there is! Of course running ss ill be doing that anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    yah he did a nice youtube of his set up last year- but did not get to test it out.


    i can see myself so loaded down with crap i dont need i'll be walking up every hill there is! Of course running ss ill be doing that anyway!
    What's the saying? What doesn't kill ya, makes ya stronger? You'll be the climber to be reckoned with, I reckon, after you start pedaling that loaded-down ss up hill.... I'll just have to resign myself to never catching up with you on the climb.
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    Let me know when you do some of the short trial trips. I have a seat bag, and some basic stuff, really need a more packable sleeping bag. I hooked up with a GoLite Utopia 1 (with sewn in floor) and have made plenty of beer can stoves. A great resource for lightweight stuff is backpackinglight.com, there's always good deals on stuff in fairly good condition. I got my Utopia and a Ti 750ml cup on there for 1/4 of the new price..... you can also do a lot of MYOG stuff if you're into that kind of thing they have good ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedmindset View Post
    Nice looking bags!

    I'm not normally a weight weenie, but bikepacking is the one discipline that cutting weight will definitely increase your enjoyment of the sport. If you want to feel like you're actually mountain biking, go as light as possible, bring as few items as possible, and remember that you need to leave plenty of room for food and water.

    Since you mentioned sleeping arrangements, I'll share mine. Homemade silnylon tarp. Packs the size of nalgene. Weighs less than a pound. Comfortably sleeps two. Can be pitched in a variety of configurations. Cost me $40 to make.

    Awesome! Awesome! .Awesome!

    I have been experimenting with using the bike as a prop for a tarp in my front yard to the neighbors amusement--but limited success. You seem to have almost nailed what I want. Thanks for sharing this.

    Now what would this weight if made from Cuben Fiber?!

    Right now, my current setup is a light tent. Put the tent and pad on the bars, the sleeping bag on the seat and everything else in my back. The handlebar dry bag has a pouch where I can put easy to access stuff. I have some salsa everything cages too but figured I might not actually need them after all. If I do, one side will carry my pot and stove, the other my water filter.

    I'm not into the extra frame bags and stuff because they seem to add weight for minimal gain of space. I'm toying with the idea of using a bubble car shade as a pad but I want to nap on it on some concrete before I replace that z-pad---which I I plan to chop off four sections of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    You just need trees!
    Partly why I sold my hammock... (and got tired of my butt getting cold!)

    Here are some interesting ideas

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    I just got this a sawyer water filter last fall, I have only used it 3-4 times to filter a total of about 20L of agua. So far it works great, packs very small, and is darn light. It is so compact that I used it on a long trail ride, where I killed my 3L pack, and refilled it. mid ride.

    check out the squeeze filter,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykerider View Post
    I just got this a sawyer water filter last fall, I have only used it 3-4 times to filter a total of about 20L of agua. So far it works great, packs very small, and is darn light. It is so compact that I used it on a long trail ride, where I killed my 3L pack, and refilled it. mid ride.

    check out the squeeze filter,
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    Yep. Those are great. Except if one is not careful. one will wind up with the same weight as a filter using an extra bladder, the sawyer and tubing. Gotta go with platypus badders. Camelbak bladders weight a lot.

    I suppose it can be used inline with one bladder but I think time is a consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casey View Post
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    Keith- Thanks alot!! registered gonna go check it out!

    Hey Joe how about my brothers bar before for a beer!?

    anybody else going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman View Post
    Yep. Those are great. Except if one is not careful. one will wind up with the same weight as a filter using an extra bladder, the sawyer and tubing. Gotta go with platypus badders. Camelbak bladders weight a lot.

    I suppose it can be used inline with one bladder but I think time is a consideration.



    I use the very light weight 1L bag that it comes with.
    I fill the bag in the crick attach the filter lid, and squeeze it into my bladder, then repeat untill full. There are no extra hoses. I think Sawyer claims that it weighs 3 oz. for the whole getup.

    It seems to be about as quick as my buddy's hiker pro

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    Man, you all must be going for distance. I roll slow and heavy with the Bob trailer, loaded with comfort items. It's more about camping via bike than camping while riding for me. Get back a bit, bust out the brews, fire... good food. Hot coffee/breakfast in the morning around the fire and roll home...


    Do you guys with those light set ups feel like your "riding?" I mean you're still carrying all the weight, you're not rippin' it as you normally would? That's my reasoning at least, it's not normal* riding so I might as well be comfortable once I get there. Those frame bags are sweet, regardless!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Man, you all must be going for distance. I roll slow and heavy with the Bob trailer, loaded with comfort items. It's more about camping via bike than camping while riding for me. Get back a bit, bust out the brews, fire... good food. Hot coffee/breakfast in the morning around the fire and roll home...
    I can appreciate that! im not going for speed- but lighter options - i would prefer- and yes you can count on celebratory beverages will be in tow!

    As far as fire starter - came across these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    Hey Joe how about my brothers bar before for a beer!
    You read my mind buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bykerider View Post
    I use the very light weight 1L bag that it comes with.
    I fill the bag in the crick attach the filter lid, and squeeze it into my bladder, then repeat untill full. There are no extra hoses. I think Sawyer claims that it weighs 3 oz. for the whole getup.

    It seems to be about as quick as my buddy's hiker pro
    [AnalDetails]

    You must have a different one than me. I have a brown sawyer cartridge that weighs 3.8 oz itself-- and I weighed it btw. Mine didn't come with any bladder or stuff. I guess since I got mine a while ago, it was home brew. But there is no way a whole system including even only 1 bladder can weigh only 3 oz.

    I have tested mine using different lengths of tubing and in no way, with a gravity feed, unless it's around 10 feet high, can it compete with a pump in speed. in fact there is a minimum height of around a foot where the thing won't even flow. And that doesn't include any silt.

    PS: Some weights from my scale:

    Sawyer inline filter cartridge - 3.8 oz
    Camebak old style 100 oz 4.8 oz---stock tubing
    Camelbak new type 100 oz bladder - 7.2 oz - stock tubing
    Platypus 3 liter hoser - 4 oz - manufacture spec since I don't have one.

    Two bladders and a cartridge is a minimum of 11.8 oz. Assuming Platypus.

    It's still a lot lighter than a pump because you need something to put the water in even when you have a pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Man, you all must be going for distance. I roll slow and heavy with the Bob trailer, loaded with comfort items. It's more about camping via bike than camping while riding for me. Get back a bit, bust out the brews, fire... good food. Hot coffee/breakfast in the morning around the fire and roll home...


    Do you guys with those light set ups feel like your "riding?" I mean you're still carrying all the weight, you're not rippin' it as you normally would? That's my reasoning at least, it's not normal* riding so I might as well be comfortable once I get there. Those frame bags are sweet, regardless!!
    The philosophies should indeed differ, if not, there would be no discussion would there be?

    Go with your reasoning. You don't have to defend it.

    This really should have been a discussion on bikepacking.net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    Keith- Thanks alot!! registered gonna go check it out!

    Hey Joe how about my brothers bar before for a beer!?

    anybody else going?
    I'm in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman View Post
    The philosophies should indeed differ, if not, there would be no discussion would there be?

    Go with your reasoning. You don't have to defend it.

    This really should have been a discussion on bikepacking.net.
    I'm not really defending it, nor would I try and sway anyone towards a trailer since I'm personally not convinced that's the way to go either. Unless of course you want to carry a 6 pack of beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    I can appreciate that! im not going for speed- but lighter options - i would prefer- and yes you can count on celebratory beverages will be in tow!

    As far as fire starter - came across these.

    Firestarters look awesome.
    Lighter options- Man, if I could just leave some stuff at home I'd be ahead of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman View Post
    Yep. Those are great. Except if one is not careful. one will wind up with the same weight as a filter using an extra bladder, the sawyer and tubing. Gotta go with platypus badders. Camelbak bladders weight a lot.

    I suppose it can be used inline with one bladder but I think time is a consideration.
    I remember reading the Sawyer bags weigh between .1 and .3 oz depending on size. Can these bags be used to store water in? I don't have one of these filters yet but plan on getting one soon.

    Thanks for the link to the Boulder REI class. I signed up and hope to get some useful information to help me start bikepacking this summer.

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    As far as fire starter - came across these.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for this link. Looks like we can get a lot of great info and ideas from this blog!

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    MTBR.com now has a bikepacking forum too!

    http://forums.mtbr.com/bikepacking-bike-expedition/

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    For me its BIKEpacking not camping. When I go with the family we bring the kitchen sink, when I go alone or on my bike the focus is distance and time. How much riding can I get in X amount of hours before I have to be back home. Since its not about camp comforts I ride until at least darkand have no problem sleeping in the rough.
    I pack very light, try for all equipment to do double duty and eat cold food. No stove, no tent. Sleep in my layers. I have been caught out one night in nasty hail storms with barely enough food to get by, but that was also part of the fun for me too - pushing my boundaries. Any extra gear makes it harder to climb (push) and I have even geared down the SS to accomodate the additional weight. The downhill is still just as fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    anybody else going?
    yep... monday night in boulder tho.
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    Let's talk a little bikepacking.....-262989_2182016664498_1069391489_32482168_3089092_n.jpg

    Did the CTR last year. Here is my sleeping set up. One bike, one MSR E-Wing, two long pieces of thin cord for either side, two longer ones for the bike side, two short ones for the side opposite my bike, and six MSR needle type stakes. I wound the cord around the wheel for stability. To keep the wheels from spinnig, I used two velcro type loops that would be similar to what you use to keep your pants from getting caught in your chainring and wrapped them through the spokes around the bike. The setup was light, flexible, and did not rely on trees. make sure to waterproof the E-wing before using.

    Having something on my handlebars is no bueno. I need to see the front wheel and any rocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jugdish View Post
    Do you guys with those light set ups feel like your "riding?" I mean you're still carrying all the weight, you're not rippin' it as you normally would? That's my reasoning at least, it's not normal* riding so I might as well be comfortable once I get there. Those frame bags are sweet, regardless!!
    Of course you can rip...you just need to get some practice with the extra weight.
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    singlespeedmindset - that's a pretty sweet tarp.

    I have yet to do bikepacking, but I've done lots of backpacking and some bike touring. And in the last couple years I've strated to invest in lighter gear for backpacking (getting older and richer, I guess).

    A few things I would suggest.

    If you want a full shelter check out a single wall shelter like those from tarptent.com or Mountain Laurel Designs. Not as light as a simple tarp, or as cheap as a DIY, but you get protection from bugs and pretty damn light. Many of them are geared toward hikers and set up using a trekking pole, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't rig it up with a bike (maybe somebody has figured this out).

    Alcohol stoves seem to be the way to go--cheap and very light. you can buy one but DIY ideas are all over the interwebs. I have this . It's tiny, extremely light, but doesnt' work great at altitude (say, above 9k or 10k). For that I use an MSR whisperlite which would be too heavy for bikepacking.

    For food ideas, check out trailcooking.com. I've used several recipes from that site.

    For a bag, hard to beat down because it's so light and so compressible. You just have to be a little extra cautious to keep it dry, but I think it's worth it. I have a MontBell (Boulder company) and love it.

    I think I gotta try this bikepacking thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBR me! View Post
    Keith- Thanks alot!! registered gonna go check it out!

    Hey Joe how about my brothers bar before for a beer!?

    anybody else going?
    I'm planning on being there and will also plan on being at MBB prior!

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    PBR me I swear you are gonna get me in trouble yet.. LOL I have plans on a bikepack trip this summer. I will talk to jpaks about a bag or 2. I will try the REI meeting but most likely not gonna happen. I may call you about info shared. I will say the bikepacking website is pretty great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGadd View Post
    MTBR.com now has a bikepacking forum too!

    http://forums.mtbr.com/bikepacking-bike-expedition/

    Thanks for that link- i just thought id throw it out local as to get some input from "the front range" i hate that saying and love it at the same time!

    i will read through your blog as well. cheers
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