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    I've been out both on my fat bike and XC Skis on the Brainard Lake and Beaver Reservoir area trails in the past few days.

    There has been a lot of fat bike travel on relatively soft snow trails, resulting in a lot of post holing where the conditions are difficult. I'm concerned that this will lead to fat bikers being shut out of these trails. Many of the skiers are not super tolerant of other users, even snow shoers are not welcome.

    I've limited my fat biking on these sensitive trails to times when the pack is fairly hard, and my tracks will not make a mess of the trail. The roads are always a good back up plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincentg View Post
    I've been out both on my fat bike and XC Skis on the Brainard Lake and Beaver Reservoir area trails in the past few days.

    There has been a lot of fat bike travel on relatively soft snow trails, resulting in a lot of post holing where the conditions are difficult. I'm concerned that this will lead to fat bikers being shut out of these trails. Many of the skiers are not super tolerant of other users, even snow shoers are not welcome.

    I've limited my fat biking on these sensitive trails to times when the pack is fairly hard, and my tracks will not make a mess of the trail. The roads are always a good back up plan.
    I'm an occasional BC skier - and I have to say that skiers need to CTFD. If they don't like the track they should make a new one that they do like.

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    Our nordic ski center is open to fatbikes. I feel like their informal rules are pretty solid...

    https://sites.google.com/site/durang...nter/fat-bikes

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    Brainerd lake/sourdough, etc trails are open to EVERY trail user. Some skiers, especially those who have enjoyed the areas long before the popularity of snow shoeing, think they own the area. They do not.
    When you meet them, smile, say something nice, and have your fun. If they can't handle that, then only therapy can help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincentg View Post
    even snow shoers are not welcome.
    Snowshoers are not welcome? Brainard Lake Area Ski and Snowshoe Trails.

    Snowshoes are now strapped to my fatty for when the trails get deep and soft .

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    etiquitte that's not etquitte tearing up trails with a fat bike

    as a life long cross country skiier I despise fat bikers tearing up my nice xc ski tracks I mean go buy a road bike or learn how to ski this is colorado after all no need to guy buy some silly fad bike so you can go trash a nice xc ski trail

    by the way I fell into a huge 6 inch deep fat bike rut while skiing last year and hurt my leg really bad, while I was bedridden for two months I ended up with a scorching case of genital warts, don't know how that happened, so all because some fat biker decided to shred my trails heck I haven't been able to ride a bike since between the leg and the rash, the doctor said I might be able to start riding this spring again

    so please don't ruin my xc ski trains with your silly fad bike

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    Toughen up, Buttercup.

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    Yay trail access for all! Yay!
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Wonder how many people posting will rant about horses, or hikers, or people riding muddy trails and trashing them? Etiquette is just a matter of not being a self absorbed jerk. Postholing a trail, or deeply rutting a trail just shows you don't give a s**t about anyone else. That's not illegal I suppose, and I can't imagine postholing is any fun, but since we have to share a lot of the same trail it might be nice to understand and live by a few basic guidelines and courtesies to make all our lives a little more pleasant.

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    I ride in the snow up in the indian peaks quite a bit. It's rare but occasionally I'll get some snarky comment from an XC skier I just mention we are on a shared trail in the woods. If they don't drop it at that I add that Eldora grooms trails and maybe they would prefer that.

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    What is the appropriate terminology etiquette for holes in teh snow made by careless walkers with no planks, snowshoes or fadbikes:

    Postholing or StovePiping

    Discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    What is the appropriate terminology etiquette for holes in teh snow made by careless walkers with no planks, snowshoes or fadbikes:

    Postholing or StovePiping

    Discuss.
    i call it boot packing - and I am with SS on this one. I do all three: skin, boot pack, and bike. I really don't understand the people who give the boot packers and bikers a hard time...I've never been confronted on my bike but people hate me when I am boot packing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    What is the appropriate terminology etiquette for holes in teh snow made by careless walkers with no planks, snowshoes or fadbikes:

    Postholing or StovePiping

    Discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleestak View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryhead View Post
    i call it boot packing - and I am with SS on this one. I do all three: skin, boot pack, and bike. I really don't understand the people who give the boot packers and bikers a hard time...I've never been confronted on my bike but people hate me when I am boot packing.
    If you don't understand the negative effects of post holing a ski track it's hard for me to believe you do much skiing.

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    Well actually a couple of the trails have been designated for skiers only.

    From the Arapahoe & Roosevelt National Forests webpage:

    The Snowshoe trail is not restricted to snowshoers only, however it is not well-designed for skiing. The CMC Trail and Little Raven Trail are restricted to skiers only. Dogs are prohibited on all single track trails in the Brainard Lake Recreation Area except for Sourdough Trail from November 15 - April 30.

    So the answer to the etiquette ? is don't ride the CMC or Little Raven trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    StovePiping

    Discuss.
    Hmmmm... I've always understood StovePiping to be something different...

    Such as: That odd phenomenon when you bend over in full Gore-Tex ski gear and that fart you let loose on the lift about 2 hours ago (and hasn't escaped due to said Gore-Tex ski gear) comes puffing out the top of your jacket neck-hole (the stove-pipe, if you will), leaving you with a wonderful reminder of how you've been marinating in your own funk for a few hours...
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    What is the appropriate terminology etiquette for holes in teh snow made by careless walkers with no planks, snowshoes or fadbikes:

    Postholing or StovePiping

    Discuss.
    stove pipeing is alittle different than the so far mentioned definitions
    but the again as a kid I spent alot of time in dark theatres trying to be famous and people there had one definition we also would fill abandon cars with as much smoke as possible while we lounged around inside with the windows rolled up, that was spaceshipping and we'd open a stove pipe when we needed some fresh air many defintions to one phrase I guess

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    Fat Bike Etiquette

    Whatever you do, don't look it up on urbandictionary dot com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    Whatever you do, don't look it up on urbandictionary dot com.
    for the win!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    Whatever you do, don't look it up on urbandictionary dot com.
    hence the dark theatre reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBitey View Post
    Whatever you do, don't look it up on urbandictionary dot com.
    I did not follow this advice (curiosity got the best of me). I wish that I HAD followed this advice.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripper roo View Post
    hence the dark theatre reference
    Im suggesting a "ripper" story a week thread to get us through the rest of winter. Start at your leisure, embellish as you see fit.

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