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    Vw Bus People!

    how do you guys carry your bikes? ive got a roofrack on my car,but think i want to keep the teek roof rack for coolness factor, so i might throw a hitch on. but wonder what ya'll do. if any of you are even out there........


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    I have a '77 Westfalia and have been stuggling with the same issue for years. I had my bikes mounted on the front using a rack I made out of some tubular steel for a few years but was never very happy with them there. I had them inside for a while too but having a muddy mountain bike inside my nice clean bus only got me into hot water with my wife.
    I found this rack system on bus depot just recently and it looks great. I haven't picked one up yet but the reviews I've read look good.

    http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=KA0026
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boofhead
    I found this rack system on bus depot just recently and it looks great. I haven't picked one up yet but the reviews I've read look good.

    http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=KA0026
    I've had one of those Fiamma racks for about 8 years. It's held up great.
    With my oooooooooold yeti...

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    Cons:
    You need a cable lock.
    You need a stick to hold up the rear hatch even with no bikes in the rack
    The standard holders are OK but having one of the odd holders is nice too.

    Pros - you can fit 3 bikes on there - it's snug, but they definitely fit. Even big bikes.
    And they are all out of the way.

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    I wish I could find a VW bus for sale in Jersey that isn't broken. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

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    Do the VW bus's share much with the air cooled bugs, as far as engine and drivetrain goes?

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    It depends on the year...

    The early buses had the same engines as the bug up until the early 70's. The transmissions have always been different though. Early busses had a very similar gear box but with separate gear reduction boxes at the end of the axles to reduce the gear ratios. The later buses just built the reduction into the transmission. The bus transmissions have always been built stronger because they have to push more weight. They are a favorite for off-road racers. In the 70's the buses went to a type 4 motor, similar to the 914 Porsche, then on to water cooled, then Audi motors, then I lost track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrogeek
    The early buses had the same engines as the bug up until the early 70's. The transmissions have always been different though. Early busses had a very similar gear box but with separate gear reduction boxes at the end of the axles to reduce the gear ratios. The later buses just built the reduction into the transmission. The bus transmissions have always been built stronger because they have to push more weight. They are a favorite for off-road racers. In the 70's the buses went to a type 4 motor, similar to the 914 Porsche, then on to water cooled, then Audi motors, then I lost track.

    Cool, SO I assume bug performance parts will work on a early bus . What are some good site to lean more about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9
    Cool, SO I assume bug performance parts will work on a early bus . What are some good site to lean more about them?
    Assuming your have a Type I engine, start looking for air cooled VW performance web sites. www.cal-look.com is a good place to start. The Shop Talk Forums are also not bad. CB Performance and aircooled.net are a couple good parts sources.

    Take some time and learn what works best. You can slap a few parts on and temporarily gain some performance, but you may end up with a scattered engine. I built a 2110cc engine for my 1968 Beetle eight years ago and have had it apart a few times since then for various improvements. Big engines can be reliable (I put about 20,000 miles on mine) but you need to know what you are doing.

    If you just want to keep up with traffic, there are a few bolt-on items that can help a lot. Assuming you have a stock 1300, 1500, or 1600, here are my thoughts. First, you need dual port heads. Your engine may have them already. Get some Kadron style carburetors. These days Empi makes them, but people will know what you mean if you say Kadron. Learn how to set up the jetting; that will make a big difference in how how it runs. Your stock distributor won't work with the Kads; a 009 distributor is a good basic distributor, asy to set up, and inexpensive. Lastly, an exhaust system. For a mostly stock engine as I have described, go with a 1 3/8" header (non-merged) that works with your stock heater boxes (or J-tubes if you have removed the heaters) and either a single or dual quiet pack. A single will flow enough, but a dual does look cool!

    My first performance engine was similar to this and it ran great. A good boost or the stock power, but easy to work on.

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    there ya go..
    http://www.vwsites.com/bus.php

    oh, and very nice bus OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTrain

    oh, and very nice bus OP.

    i have to rebuild the engine as the #4 piston gets almost no compression. am going to do that soon, what are some upgrades i should do at the same time? its a 2000cc BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas
    i have to rebuild the engine as the #4 piston gets almost no compression. am going to do that soon, what are some upgrades i should do at the same time? its a 2000cc BTW.
    Subaru motor conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChromedToast
    Subaru motor conversion.
    Seconding this. You can go as practical or wild as you want. You will have to do a fair amount of electronic trickery, but you will have a modern engine. Could you imagine a modded STi engine in there? Well that might be a bit too much power actually...

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    My Eurovan

    I've had a '78 Westy, an '85 Westy, and now have an '02 Eurovan Westy. My company has over 50 hitch racks and this is the one I personally use... The Softride Dura bike rack comes in a 1.25" or 2" version and it folds down enough to open the rear hatch on any of the VWs. IMHO it's the way to go.

    The Eurovan hitch is well designed, but receiver hitches for the older models are hard to come by because of the way they mount to the frame.






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    Quote Originally Posted by overtorqued_nut
    Seconding this. You can go as practical or wild as you want. You will have to do a fair amount of electronic trickery, but you will have a modern engine. Could you imagine a modded STi engine in there? Well that might be a bit too much power actually...
    May be newer, but just a doable in the older ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas
    i have to rebuild the engine as the #4 piston gets almost no compression. am going to do that soon, what are some upgrades i should do at the same time? its a 2000cc BTW.
    The best place to start is have the crank and the rods balanced. Buy a good performance cam, not too wild so you can tune the motor. Use good german made parts, pistons, rings, valves, etc. Buy the best seals that you can also, trust me, if comes from Brazil, don't use it. If you have the bucks have the heads opened up and ported for more airflow. Do you already have dual carbs? You can replace the carb and intakes with aftermarket parts for more performance also. As stated before, get a better exhaust than the stock setup.
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    Great thread.

    Other than motorcycles, I haven't owned a vehicle for a few years - or a vw bus for even longer - but I miss my busses ('68 bus & '72 camper) and would love to eventually get another to carry my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitchSource.com
    I've had a '78 Westy, an '85 Westy, and now have an '02 Eurovan Westy.
    Here's our Eurovan with a Paulchen rack with a Stowaway cargobox mounted on the hitch underneath.

    Not sure how readily Paulchen racks are available? But they sure are sturdy.



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    Resurrecting this thread to see if anyone has come up with an efficient way to carry their bikes on a pre-'73 Bus.
    I have a '71 with a poptop, so a roof rack is out of the question. Ideally I would like a hitch rack, but it doesn't seem that you can mount a hitch on the early bay-windows?!?
    I have a cheapo Bell trunk rack for my Hyundai that would probably fit the Vdub, and it's fine for my commuter, but I'm not sure I'd trust it with my Fuel EX.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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    The Ca Beach van is sweet...but not $54k sweet. If they dropped the price by $20k they would sell, but that price is to high.

    I'm looking forward to a new VW Van in the US. I was really hoping the Bulli proto would take off, but haven't heard anything about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHDirtWorshipper View Post
    Resurrecting this thread to see if anyone has come up with an efficient way to carry their bikes on a pre-'73 Bus.
    I have a '71 with a poptop, so a roof rack is out of the question. Ideally I would like a hitch rack, but it doesn't seem that you can mount a hitch on the early bay-windows?!?
    This is on my '72...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtec View Post
    This is on my '72...
    Is that hitch just welded to your bumper? Did you do that yourself?

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    I wouldn't say its just welded to it, it has a 2x2" steel squaretube with .25" wall thickness that spans the width between the frame mounts on the inside of the bumper.

    Stout as hell. Someone else did it, but they did it right.
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