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    Seasucker?

    Has anyone tried the Seasucker roof mounts? I'm interested in their simplicity, but skeptical that they would hold at 70 mph for a couple hours on the highway. Thanks.

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    I saw it the other day in a magazine. I wouldnt trust it.... no way.

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    I saw them at inter bike. talked to the guy for about an hour about them. they got there start in the boat filming world: and then moved on to biking. He had one sucker stuck to a stand in thier booth and dared me to rip it off however i could. i even hung on it while jerking on it and it did not even move. I weigh 180+ at that time. I was very impressed i have not got one b/c i have a rack on my car that cost me a ton of money and dont really want to turn it into wall deco. that is what i know about them.
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    Coombs, take what I say with a grain of salt because I'm the FL rep for the product. I've been using Seasucker products since I was in the Marine Industry. As an avid suba diver I needed a tank rack to hold 3 tanks on my boat in 3-4ft seas at 45mph. My rack is 4 years old and has never let me down. Seasucker products are used in Military, Marine,Bike Racks and in the Movie making buisness. The 6in cup holds 200lbs of psi and the 4 in cup holds 100 lbs of psi. Suttle mentioned how he couldn't remove the cup by pulling on it. Truth be told no one removed that cup During Interbike the entire time week we were there. The racks were designed so that even in one cup was to loose pressure the other could still hold the load.
    I've been using the 3 bike on top rack for over 8 months. I removed my Yakima system and haven't looked back since. I remove the rack when I change vehicles and to clean my car from time to time. It takes me 4 minutes to install the rack and 1 min to remove it. MT Bike Action named it one of the best new products of Interbike ( Jan-10) and Bicycling magazine & Mt Bike Action should be releasing their test results very soon. I'll post some pics from my car and let it go from there. If you wanna know more please IM or email off the MTBR forums.
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    I never liked the 'clip' mounting method, but I still LOVE my trays as well as my snowboard rack.

    Is there a SeaSucker adapter to allow me to mount the bars from my Yakima (basically replacing the Q-Towers)? That would be ideal to me actually. That would allow me to use the bike racks, snowboard racks and the roof gear carrier that I already have.

    EDIT: Oh wow, just saw the prices.. nevermind. My rack system was only slightly more expensive and I'm able to carry things other than just bikes. I hope those are just direct-purchase MSRP and distributors like you can sell them for cheaper, otherwise I'm not sure if it'll get the market penetration SeaSucker wants.

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    Seasucker will have the ability to adapt Yakima and Thule products in the future. We should have some pics for you down the road.

    vaelin, Our products are hand made in Florida with materials from Florida. Our racks are made from billet aluminum and are powder coated, not painted like our competition. To make racks of this quality does cost more. Seasucker racks were designed to be universally used on vehicles without adapters. So having a product that you can travel with on a plane, set up on a rental car or just put on a friends car for the day pays off quickly. Any design ideas or suggestions you have both good or bad is ALWAYS welcomed at Seasucker !!! Thanks for your time
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    I'm not entirely trying to stir the pot, but that seemed quite a bit of marketing speak to justify the costs.

    Billet aluminum, powder coating, that's all well and good, but as many Yakima and Thule rack owners can probably attest to, there's no need. There are plenty of your competitors' racks out there that are well beyond 5-10-15 years of service. Typically the billet aluminum argument is used because it's stronger and easier to produce in low-volumes, but significantly more expensive. The stronger argument it seems is moot however; the competitors' racks that aren't billet aluminum are still incredibly strong and reliable as well. I've (shamefully) rammed my rack into my parents overhang for the garage and essentially tore my roof from the A-pillar to the B-pillar with 3 bikes on top. No damage to the rack, a bit of damage to the cockpits of 2 of the bikes, and significant damage to the roof of my old Volvo. I'm still using that same rack 10+ years later, and all paid for is different clips/pads for my Q-Towers as I moved the rack from one car to the next.

    Ignoring the versatility that I mentioned and then saying the rack is versatile is rather counterproductive too. The vast majority of rack users out there won't be taking their racks in their baggage to mount on a rental vehicle. If a friend's a rider, they probably already have a method of transporting their own bikes (and yours).

    I'm just trying to provide a counter-point that a lot of consumers will think in their head when they try to justify SeaSucker's price versus the competition's. I seriously do think the fact that it's a universal mount is a HUGE selling point, as well as the fact that it comes on and off within minutes. However not addressing the other issues such as the cost as well as the lack of accessories or ability to adapt competitor accessories is going to be a big turn-off for lots of folks.

    It seems SeaSucker uses 4 6" pods for the front of the 3-bike mount, as well as 3 more in the rear to hold down the wheels. Since the cost of the marine seasuckers seem to hover around $40-50, I would surmise that the cost of the rack is primarily because of the number of pods that are being used. Knowing the load limit of each individual pod, isn't it kind of overkill to have 4 up front? That's a combined shearing force load limit of well over 800 pounds.

    Ideally a 2 or 3 pod setup that uses the traditional cross bars (either SeaSucker's own or a competitors such as Yakima's) will lower the costs and provide the option for customers to take advantage of a lot of accessories.

    Oh well, food for thought. I've said all of this because I really think a universal mount is what was always needed.

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    will the seasucker work on the rear of a Boxster? The only guy selling rear bike racks for Porsche Boxsters and Carreras has closed shop.
    I'm wondering if a seasucker fork mount over the rear trunk with the rear wheel held up by the license plate mount (similar to the one pictured below) might work. The downward slope of the trunk is problematic for any trunk mounted rear bike carrirer along with the fact that there's no rear bumper shelf.
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    Nice work mate, i should attach same with mine
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    Does anyone have feedback on these?

    I've had Yakima for years but now use a truck to transport bikes. This mount would be for those times I need to throw a bike on the sedan and not mess a full on roof rack. For the record, I used to be a rack whore, but now want something quick and easy to R&R, universal and that I pack and travel with.

    To the rep, how should I decide between the raptor and talon if I have room for both? Does the bike sway in corners due to the soft mount? Are they suitable for heavier trail bikes that would also need a thru axle adapter which would raise the center of gravity?

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    Consolidated, The choice of the Raptor vs Talon should be based on the vehicle. I personally prefer the Raptor for most applications. The mount has a little give so the energy doesn't transfer into the vehicle. That being said it's also stiff enough to hold my Rocky Mountain Flatline (39lbs) from FL to WV with no problem at all. The wider stance of the Raptor distributes the weight evenly and over a large area. You mentioned the use of fork adapters. If you look above at the 2nd photo on the red Rocky Altitude you'll see the 15MM adapter. All the SS rack come with a standard 9mm skewer that can adapter to many forks with the adapter.

    As for feedback, I have a slew of dealers that can give you feedback. If you would I can call you and answer questions. Please send me an email at [email protected] and I'll be happy to help.
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    It seems like an interesting idea. How do you secure the bikes and the SeaSucker when using it as a roof rack? It looks like the SeaSucker comes off pretty easily and there is nothing on the roof to lock the bikes or racks to once the SeaSucker has been released.

    Also, is the vacuum use strong enough to dent sheet metal? Are there any restrictions on window or sunroof mounting since these surfaces may not be designed to be load bearing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traildawg
    Consolidated, The choice of the Raptor vs Talon should be based on the vehicle. I personally prefer the Raptor for most applications. The mount has a little give so the energy doesn't transfer into the vehicle.
    Thanks Traildawg,I ordered the Raptor, looking forward to trying it out. I was also thinking of trying it inside an enclosed car hauler, do you think it will deform the aluminum wall panels?

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    The bikes are secured via the special vacuum mounted seasucker. Each seasucker can hold up to 210 pounds each, but even more importantly there is an integrated pump with a check valve that tells you if it has lost any vacuum. All suction cups and vacuum cups eventually lose power, the seasucker pump will slowly reverse itself and show a red line indicating it needs a pump. You don't have to take it off and lick it, just pump it and you are back to full power. It can take days to weeks for any of the cups to loose any significant amount of vacuum, they do not just "release", they lose power over an extended period of time.

    There is no need for extra straps or bungees, all our roof racks are way overbuilt with cup ratings from 630 to 1,260 pounds. Each rack has redundancy built in as well, these racks would actually work with 1/2 or 1/3 of the cups we currently employ.

    The strength of the vacuum will not harm the vehicle or dent the sheet metal. Once we saw a very heavy mountain bike's rear wheel push in the sheet metal from the weight on one particular subcompact vehicle in the very center of the roof, but this was fixed by moving it a foot or so where the roof was stronger. Our 6" cups help spread the load so a lot of weight is not focused in a small area. The racks themselves are designed to spread the load over as large an area as possible, which really gives our racks its incredible strength and unobtrusive/non-marking capabilities.

    All our racks can be safely used on any of the glass or metal, the load capacity of the glass and metal on vehicles far surpasses any load created by our racks with bikes attached, we have tested many of our racks with a 200 pound person either standing on it or sitting on the bike that is attached to the rack that is attached to the rear window of the vehicle. These things are ridiculously strong.


    From interbike:

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    I have those on my offshore fishing boat and have hooked onto 300# bluefin no problem while rod was in seasucker pole mount. Just saying

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    i have sea suckers and have had no issues.
    i have taken multiple road trips all longer than 1000miles each way and haven’t had to worry at all. to say the least i am a fairly aggressive driver... i will post up pictures later but. most recent road trip was from Florida to north Carolina on my jetta
    i have the Talon and most of my bikes are 29ers

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    guess my files are to large to upload

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    it would be great if they had a ski & snow board model
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    Does anyone have any feedback on what effect, if any, there is on a car's paint using these? I have a truck with a custom paint-matched hard bed cover, and a brand-new Mustang GT. While I'd love theability to put my bike up on either, I'd have to know whether the suction cups mar the paint at all. Thanks!

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    I've not seen any scratching yet, but I clean both surfaces before installation. I'm going to put down 3M film as a preventative. The mounts work great so far, I also use it in an enclosed trailer mounted to the interior wall.

    It's been tested on this car well above the speed limit. The only issue so far is that if I hit a deep pothole the rear wheel mount will "pop" the sheetmetal roof if the strap is not set w/o play, so I now mount rear wheel tightly so it can't bounce and nearer to the edge for support.
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    i really like the idea of the sesuckers.

    i'm think of buying just the suckers and build myself a custom rack out of it!

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    For the back of a pick up truck, a friend of mine uses one of these on his rear window with one of these bolted to it. Has less then $30 into it.

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    I drive a 1987 Porsche 911 and wonder if these would be a good Thule/Yakima alternative - I worry about both placing weight directly on the roof, as well as peeling my old paint right off the metal. Any input on this?

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    i dont see why it would be a issue.

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    i have been meaning to post these for a while... i am inthe ball park of some where around 10k miles...

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    That is a pretty nifty idea I gotta say. First thoughts were I dunno if I'd trust it, then you see the pics of guys hanging off them.


    Quote Originally Posted by vaelin

    Billet aluminum, powder coating, that's all well and good, but as many Yakima and Thule rack owners can probably attest to, there's no need.
    I dunno, I've seen a decent amount of T2 racks that were terribly rusted.

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    I learned about this rack yesterday from a salesman at Performance Bike in Boise. My girlfriend is looking for a bike rack for her Hyundai and is having a difficult time finding one that fits her car due to a spoiler mounted at the top of the rear hatchback. I found this thread through google while trying to find a place that sells the Sea Sucker. Anyone know hoe much they cost and where to buy one? Thanks.

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    The problem is if you get a failure in the check valve or the suction cup, the failure becomes catastrophic in terms of rack functionality.

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    John, The smallest bike rack Seasucker makes has 3 cups. These cups can hold 200lbs each so a little math and thats 600lbs of holding strength. A 40lb bike is plenty safe even after leaving loosing 2 cups. I invite you to look at one of the units and then make a conclusion.
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    Really cool video on a Seasucker Bike Rack on a race car.

    http://youtu.be/_41Ujjv6WUw
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    CR-Z Sea Sucka

    Have to say rack looks really cool, did the upgrade to the delta skewer
    first ride today, so quick to put on and take off....will take it on the freeway today
    I had the Yakima roof rack, it works great but i actually loss about 5mpg with the rack
    Also detailing the car was a hassle
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    OK, so serious question. How do these do in cold? Are the cups going to get rigid in freezing/near-freezing temps? I get nervous relying on rubber/plastics as it gets colder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traildawg
    John, The smallest bike rack Seasucker makes has 3 cups. These cups can hold 200lbs each so a little math and thats 600lbs of holding strength. A 40lb bike is plenty safe even after leaving loosing 2 cups. I invite you to look at one of the units and then make a conclusion.
    except for the rear wheel hold down. Would be catastropic if the bike were mounted back tire front. If it were the other way around, would get pretty dice in braking or cornering.

    Other than that, I see your point and agree with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombinate
    OK, so serious question. How do these do in cold? Are the cups going to get rigid in freezing/near-freezing temps? I get nervous relying on rubber/plastics as it gets colder.
    Be also interesting to see about any testing done in altitude or air pressure changes. for example driving up into the mountains from the flat lands.

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    today was first ride with the rack...did a little praying before getting on the expressway
    75mph no problem
    Rain? no problem
    i did see my back wheel moving a litle (shadows)
    i will try tomorrow with bike facing fw

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    I've had my Sea Sucker "Bomber" for few months and I love it! I got it for its flexibility of use on various vehicles. As a New Product Rep for Ford, I receive a new vehicle every few months........and when I'm on the road, I like bringing my bike with me. The fact that I can use it on all four of my cars and friends is great. I've taking several trips that have been 160-220 miles at 80-90 mph and the rack has held without an issue. My suggestion prior to first use is, a thorough wash of the vehicle and make sure use a clay bar prior to waxing to insure a smooth surface for the suction cups. After that, I just make sure I have a dust free surface prior to install.

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    So, how much tolerance for dirt is there?

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    I would say if the surface has light dust ii can hold but I carry a towel with me and I just wipe the surface after my ride. Its not that much of a deal, most people take off their jersey after a ride and can simply just use it. But that's my take on it.

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    Hi, Im after Sea Sucker in the UK, any ideas where? and cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by consolidated View Post
    I've not seen any scratching yet, but I clean both surfaces before installation. I'm going to put down 3M film as a preventative. The mounts work great so far, I also use it in an enclosed trailer mounted to the interior wall.

    It's been tested on this car well above the speed limit. The only issue so far is that if I hit a deep pothole the rear wheel mount will "pop" the sheetmetal roof if the strap is not set w/o play, so I now mount rear wheel tightly so it can't bounce and nearer to the edge for support.
    Man... as a past owner of a few Mcars that wheel mount popping the roofs sheet metal makes me cringe. Good information though, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markham_guy View Post
    Have to say rack looks really cool, did the upgrade to the delta skewer
    first ride today, so quick to put on and take off....will take it on the freeway today
    I had the Yakima roof rack, it works great but i actually loss about 5mpg with the rack
    Also detailing the car was a hassle
    Thanks for posting the pic. I also have a CR-Z and this was the deciding factor for me.

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    Do you Seasucker owners take the rack off the car when you get to the trailhead?

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    I sure as hell do, they are very easy to remove and steal.

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    I was hoping they were a little chaeaper too. I wanted to get one so I could put my sons bike and my bike on the back of my wifes' SUV for our vacation to GA this summer. Just a little too pricey for a spare bike carrier for me. OH well, they are pretty cool product.

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    My 1st experience with my Seasucker rack was impressive.

    some pics with silly captions and pics by my wife!!
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    I took my Seasucker rack out for the first time. I usually keep my bike in the back of my Golf hatchback. Safer for bike, better gas mileage, and no need to lock it when I go into Del Taco!
    For this trip used wife's car and drove up to Big Bear (mountain road about 7000ft) with max speed about 75mph. Got about 36mpg, lost maybe 1 mpg to rack with bike. Not bad.
    I attached it to the rear of my wife's car to avoid sticking the rack onto the sunroof. It would probably be okay there, but I opted not too. Also, it was reassuring to see the rear wheel in the window.
    I bought this rack for very occasional use. Basically, I plan to use when traveling with two bikes or when I go on short road trips where trunk space is used.

    I think some pressure was lost as we went from sea level up. One of four indicators had about 1 mm of orange indicator showing, the other 3 looked good.
    I never heard any pinging when hitting bumps.
    I wish I had gotten the Delta adapter. It was a bit annoying to have to hold the bike with one hand and loosen/tighten the nut with the other. Then close the quick release skewer.
    It comes with orange covers to protect the suckers rubber from nicks.

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    So-so Suckers

    I have the Talon, and my experience has been mixed. I've used suction cup systems for camera work, so I knew they'd be strong enough. When it works it works well, easily holding whatever bike I want to the roof of my 2012 Focus. It's strong enough to hold the bike on while you drive under a 'CLEARANCE 7' sign that shatters your carbon-railed seat (don't ask me how I know). Unfortunately, the rack only works occasionally. In 5 attempts, it has worked 3 times. The plunger failed on the 2nd attempt, and one of the cups has developed a deformation (while in its protective cover) that prevents it from working on attempt 5. Seasucker have been pleasant enough to deal with, I just don't think the product is well made. Compared to the film industry products I use, made in the USA of real rubber and aluminum, it is total crap, AND more expensive. I'm waiting to see if the cup reforms or they end me a new one. The idea is terrific. The implementation is poor. As for price, 6" complete suction cup (cup, cover, plunger, mount) retail for $50 for good ones. $15 for a fork hold down. Total cost for a Talon wholesale would be about $130-ish including assembly, so figure double for retail price and you have the $260 asking price. You could make yourself a really nice rack if you know someone who can cut HDPE plastic. If you want to see what they SHOULD be using for suction, look on FILMTOOLS website.

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    I assume these things need a clean smooth surface to stick to?

    I am looking for a way to mount bikes to the top of a camper without drilling through the roof. However the surface is a painted metal bumpy "orange peel" type texture. Would these things hold on to something like that?
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    glass or clean sheet. Textured surfaces won't work because the edges won't seal.

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    used them a lot on boats, great product!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markham_guy View Post
    Have to say rack looks really cool, did the upgrade to the delta skewer
    first ride today, so quick to put on and take off....will take it on the freeway today
    I had the Yakima roof rack, it works great but i actually loss about 5mpg with the rack
    Also detailing the car was a hassle
    Awesome I too have a CR-Z and I am definitely heading the seasucker direction....
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    I'm on the verge of buying the mini bomber - has anyone regretted their switch to Seasucker racks?

    Yakima is just too pricey honestly. It will cost me just over $700 for the rack with two bike carriers for my car.

    Ideally Id go with a hitch, but that isn't an option either.

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    I originally was looking for a nice Thule rack, but as strange as it sounds, they don't make a rack for my car!

    That's why I was turned on to the SeaSucker. Price is definitely putting me off at the moment. Does anyone know if there is a similar product by another company?

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    I don't think anyone else makes a similar product. But you never know with overseas markets!!

    But price is probably pretty close. But of course with a roof rack, you can add other attachments for other sports/luggage.

    On REI, bars $80, towers $170 and up, one bike attachment $99 and up, locks for four towers about $50.

    So a regular roof rack isn't cheap either.

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    I just put a deposit on a 2012 Hyundai Veloster with panoramic sunroof, and using the Yakima kit renders the sunroof unusable. This is probably the only way to roof-rack my bikes and still use the sunroof (by removing the seasuckers when the rack is not in use). Traildawg, as others mentioned the Killer App would be to have attachments for Thule or Yakima crossbars to enable carrying kayaks, skis, luggage boxes, etc. I guarantee you would sell a TON of those!!!! Any update on availability of such? I'll be your beta tester ;-)

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    Hey Puzman - I bought my Veloster about two months ago now. That was the main reason I posted in this thread.

    Hyundai is in the process of making a hatch mounted bike rack, so I think I am going to hold off until the Spring to see if it comes out. If you are in a hurry though I have heard the Yakima rack will work with the sunroof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzman View Post
    I just put a deposit on a 2012 Hyundai Veloster with panoramic sunroof, and using the Yakima kit renders the sunroof unusable. This is probably the only way to roof-rack my bikes and still use the sunroof (by removing the seasuckers when the rack is not in use). Traildawg, as others mentioned the Killer App would be to have attachments for Thule or Yakima crossbars to enable carrying kayaks, skis, luggage boxes, etc. I guarantee you would sell a TON of those!!!! Any update on availability of such? I'll be your beta tester ;-)
    Sunroofs are overrated.

    I''d be cautious about mounting the rack so that the load sits on the sunroof (if that's what you're thinking). Glass doesn't do well when shock loaded repeatedly. Neither do sunroof opening mechanisms.

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    Hey JD,

    Thanks, I'll probably use my old Saris Bones through the winter, and see what options are available in the spring. Ideally I'd like a rack system that'd work for both bikes and kayaks. Where did you hear about the rack Hyundai is making? Any more details about that? And how are you liking your Veloster?

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    zo i a really looking into one of theses racks seeing as how they don't make a rack for my car but... will these racks work with a bike that has a maxale or a 20mm thru axle front fork. seeing as how one of my bikes that i transport the most and the one that doesn't fit in my car with out taking apart is my dh bike this is why i need a rack. any info would be awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzorich View Post
    zo i a really looking into one of theses racks seeing as how they don't make a rack for my car but... will these racks work with a bike that has a maxale or a 20mm thru axle front fork. seeing as how one of my bikes that i transport the most and the one that doesn't fit in my car with out taking apart is my dh bike this is why i need a rack. any info would be awesome
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    Personally, I would steer clear of these guys until its clear if they will survive or not. I sent an email to them asking some questions 3 or 4 days ago, and so far I have gotten no response. If they can't answer product questions from interested buyers in a timely manner, I would hate to try to get a response on warranty issues.

    It's a shame too, the product seems like a great idea, but the organization and distribution structure just doesn't seem ready for prime time. I live in the DFW metro, which is the 4th largest metro behind NY, LA, and Chicago. Of the 10 "nearest" distributors, the closest was over 500 miles away. Of those, I think only 4 even had websites, and of them, I think only 2 allowed online ordering. I am willing to bet that the 10 "nearest" distributors are the ONLY distributors.

    Again, not trying to be a jerk, it's a promising product, but the operation needs work, IMO. Which to me is an issue if I am gonna drop $300 on their product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonDartFrog View Post
    Personally, I would steer clear of these guys until its clear if they will survive or not. I sent an email to them asking some questions 3 or 4 days ago, and so far I have gotten no response. If they can't answer product questions from interested buyers in a timely manner, I would hate to try to get a response on warranty issues.
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    Plenty of companies have an online only presence and are very successful. Having a limited distribution system isn't an issue. They've been around in the boat market for a while. For me the only problem is the material choice for the suction cups. It's too easily damaged. they could do better with higher quality rubber. The lip dents too easily and doesn't reform. So you have to store them quickly. Otherwise the quality is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dovecom View Post
    Plenty of companies have an online only presence and are very successful. Having a limited distribution system isn't an issue. They've been around in the boat market for a while. For me the only problem is the material choice for the suction cups. It's too easily damaged. they could do better with higher quality rubber. The lip dents too easily and doesn't reform. So you have to store them quickly. Otherwise the quality is ok.
    Online only is fine, unless they don't answer emails. Then it's a huge problem. Still have not heard back from them, almost a week now.
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    They look nice, and I'm sure the vacuum works very well. But I, too, shied away from them, and bought a 1up rack instead.

    I sent an email to them asking 1) when would their NW sales rep. be in Oregon, so I could see a Seasucker system in person; and 2) why only a one year warranty?

    The guy who responded did not even answer the second question, and he said he had not "talked to his Northwest sales rep. in quite awhile". These raised some red flags for me.

    But again, I'd trust a Seasucker with my bikes any day, or at least the physics behind them. When I see more well-established bike shops carrying them (and when they get a better securing/locking mechanism), I may re-visit them.

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    Just got the mini bomber for 368 free shipping. Will give my thoughts when I receive it.

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    Online only is fine, unless they don't answer emails. Then it's a huge problem. Still have not heard back from them, almost a week now.
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    Got them. First glance, I like em. Put them right on, took like 5 minutes and now on to testing vacuum. Leaving them on see how long they last without showing orange. Definitely think they look sweet though, and I like that I can mount them however. Now I can enter my garage without having to unload the bikes first. Im gonna work on a modify for a stap for the rear wheel strap because that velcro is kinda weak. Very excited to try em out and hope they are as good as people say.




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    cman8: Keep us posted. I am only looking at the Talon, but would like as much feedback as possible about SeaSucker's components before I invest in the rack.

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    Left them on all night and No Vacuum loss on 5 out of the 6 cups. The one that lost some vacuum was on the fork part so I wouldnt be worried about that since even if one fails there are 3 more to support the weight. Its serious when people say that the only way these are coming off is if your roof is coming off. I lifted the rear wheel strap with all I had and the trunk started to bend up. I was literally lifting on the car. It would be cool to have an old junker to test these on and lift with a forklift to see them lift the car up.

    Will keep posting as I have more experiences and pictures.

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    I guess the issue is if there is a loss due to leak - dirt underneath or pump or cup failure. Then all that holding force could disappear instantly. That's my worry about these - other than that it looks interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I guess the issue is if there is a loss due to leak - dirt underneath or pump or cup failure. Then all that holding force could disappear instantly. That's my worry about these - other than that it looks interesting.
    The chances of all 3 cups leaking are about zero. One cup can hold 200lbs.
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    I wouldn't worry much about the cups leaking. There is redundancy in the system. I have only lost pressure in one cup, when going from sea level to 8000 ft. But the orange line was just barely showing. Just keep an eye on the rack, like any other rack, roof, trunk or hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    The chances of all 3 cups leaking are about zero. One cup can hold 200lbs.
    Sure. I get that. But a leaking cup can hold zero lbs (which is the point).

    But that's also presuming that the failure is not a design or manufacturing flaw that could impact all holding parts. These sorts of things do occur in production runs all the time (ask me about my Sears water softener sometime...). This is not a fail safe rack, it's a fail potentially catastrophic rack. If the read suction cup comes loose, the bike can snap around to the front in hard braking damaging both the car and the bike (for example).

    It's an interesting idea, but it's expensive and it is not foolproof as they might have you believe. I think it has promise but I'm not thinking I want to trust it with $5000 worth of bicycles either. I'd prefer something a little more less transiently attached to the car.

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    It's pretty easy to talk bad about something you have never seen or used. I have no issues or 2nd thoughts now about putting my $6000 FSR on top of my $55k car or $50k truck. I used my $3000 carbon hardtail when I was testing the product out. I was a bit nervoius the 1st time I used it. even if something did happen; 1 you shouldn't live your life paralyzed by fear and 2 you should never own something you can not afford to replace.

    My buddy had his Thule T2 rack fail at a trail and had to call me to pick him up with my sea sucker. His replacement then proceeded to fail again a few months later. Luckily I was there with my pickup and carted his bike home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    It's pretty easy to talk bad about something you have never seen or used. I have no issues or 2nd thoughts now about putting my $6000 FSR on top of my $55k car or $50k truck. I used my $3000 carbon hardtail when I was testing the product out. I was a bit nervoius the 1st time I used it. even if something did happen; 1 you shouldn't live your life paralyzed by fear and 2 you should never own something you can not afford to replace.

    My buddy had his Thule T2 rack fail at a trail and had to call me to pick him up with my sea sucker. His replacement then proceeded to fail again a few months later. Luckily I was there with my pickup and carted his bike home.
    +1

    I have heard and seen some thule racks fail too. I personally have faith in the seasuckers just like I had faith in my thule racks, just happier that I only need one set of racks for all my cars. Working on getting the snowboard attachment on too. Pics coming soon.

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    Of course it is easy to talk about something I've not actually put my hands on. It's also pretty easy to understand something this simple and where it's problems lie. I'm not saying it's totally not a functional rack, I am just saying that it has a fairly significant catastrophic failure mode and it's dang expensive for what it provides. I also just don't put things that sit on the finish of my cars. I tend to have pretty nice cars and that seems to me to be false economy. Fixing a ding or paint is more than the cost of a rack in a hurry. That's all for me, but YMMV.

    I do think it's an intriguing concept though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Of course it is easy to talk about something I've not actually put my hands on. It's also pretty easy to understand something this simple and where it's problems lie. I'm not saying it's totally not a functional rack, I am just saying that it has a fairly significant catastrophic failure mode and it's dang expensive for what it provides. I also just don't put things that sit on the finish of my cars. I tend to have pretty nice cars and that seems to me to be false economy. Fixing a ding or paint is more than the cost of a rack in a hurry. That's all for me, but YMMV.

    I do think it's an intriguing concept though.

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    The Thule has zero redundancy built in. When that arm fails, by by bike. The seasucker has 3 points of redundancy on the cheaper model and more on others. So the risk ratio is less with the seasucker. Over 1000 miles have been put on my rack and my paint is showroom fresh.

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    Yup. I got the mini bomber and it has 4 points of contact. Agree with the no scratches, My Thule racks eventually gave my cars scratches that I would have to compound out on all cars I have bought and sold. With seasuckers, 0 scratches. I trust these and like these more than thule or yakima racks. Plus, they also adapt to many other applications, like carrying my snowboards.





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    Also as for the argument that its expensive, I was in that same boat. But then did the math,

    1 seasucker mini bomber (two bikes) $368 shipped. Add another fork mount to make it three $10. Total of $378 shipped.

    full Thule rack with three bike trays (Cheapest Bike trays available) = $724.70

    Ease of putting it on any other car, no problems= Priceless

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    Yup. Love it. In the future I might buy a couple of extra 4" cups and not use the two from the wheels and 2 from the bomber. But since they replace at a discount if they do mess up, Im not too worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman8 View Post
    Yup. I got the mini bomber and it has 4 points of contact. Agree with the no scratches, My Thule racks eventually gave my cars scratches that I would have to compound out on all cars I have bought and sold. With seasuckers, 0 scratches. I trust these and like these more than thule or yakima racks. Plus, they also adapt to many other applications, like carrying my snowboards.





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    [QUOTE=irishpitbull;9071436]The Thule has zero redundancy built in. When that arm fails, by by bike. The seasucker has 3 points of redundancy on the cheaper model and more on others. So the risk ratio is less with the seasucker. Over 1000 miles have been put on my rack and my paint is showroom fresh.

    I don't agree and won't buy one, but that's me. All that would have to happen is for a leak to develop in the pump/valve and the thing is going to let go. Damage to the bike and the car would make the rack price a total don't care. So, that rack's not for me, but as I said before, YMMV.

    I drive my cars 200K+ miles and keep them in pristine shape the whole time (and they are top end cars). I don't put anything on the finish ever for any reason - period. End of story. That was a lesson learned the hard way.

    1000 miles on a rack? That's nothing.

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    The Thule has zero redundancy built in. When that arm fails, by by bike. The seasucker has 3 points of redundancy on the cheaper model and more on others. So the risk ratio is less with the seasucker. Over 1000 miles have been put on my rack and my paint is showroom fresh.

    I don't agree and won't buy one, but that's me. All that would have to happen is for a leak to develop in the pump/valve and the thing is going to let go. Damage to the bike and the car would make the rack price a total don't care. So, that rack's not for me, but as I said before, YMMV.

    I drive my cars 200K+ miles and keep them in pristine shape the whole time (and they are top end cars). I don't put anything on the finish ever for any reason - period. End of story. That was a lesson learned the hard way.

    1000 miles on a rack? That's nothing.

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    Its enought to know it out lasted 2 $750 Thule racks. Won't scratch my pricy sports car and I don't have ugly roof rack or hitch bolted to my car. Most importantly, it works and Your close minded.

    If you would me to get into dynamic pressures compared to the suction rating I can. A bike weighing 30pounds has dynamic weight less than 119 pounds. Well under the 200lbs rating for one cup.

    Edit: its more like 70lbs giving the bike 4ft of exposed frontal surface at sea level doing 88fps(60mph) not taking turbulance into account.
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    We're talking about failure modes here. If the cup or pump fails the holding power is zero. The case where everything works right all the time on every part is not the point (nor realistic).

    If you like your rack - great. I'm not buying one and I think it's a problem (who actually cares either way). Is this a great country or what?


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    Good thing there 4 different points to fail, not just one like you make it seem.

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    if the rear cup holding the wheel fails, what happens when you brake hard such as in an emergency stop especially if not straight? That would constitute a single point of failure. The bike would not remain on the rack in the position in which it was initially placed on the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    if the rear cup holding the wheel fails, what happens when you brake hard such as in an emergency stop especially if not straight? That would constitute a single point of failure. The bike would not remain on the rack in the position in which it was initially placed on the car.

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    Yet the bike is still upright and there is no damage done. And that is failure? Come on dude your case is weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    if the rear cup holding the wheel fails, what happens when you brake hard such as in an emergency stop especially if not straight? That would constitute a single point of failure. The bike would not remain on the rack in the position in which it was initially placed on the car.

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    In that case then if the rear wheel strap of my bigmouth fails im screwed also. And I know that thing also gets worn out. Seriously I know people have their preferences but your arguments are almost invalid when compared side by side. Anything can really fail but really you hope and trust they wont.

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    @cman8 Clever way to get the snowboard rack onto the Seasucker cups. Did you have to do any drilling? And you are using two rear tire mounts too?

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    No drilling. Just went and bought 4 - 2 1/2"x1/4" Machine Screws. I used the two rear wheel straps and took two off the mini bomber. In a pinch I can still hook up the mini bomber if needed with 2 more outside cups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman8 View Post
    In that case then if the rear wheel strap of my bigmouth fails im screwed also. And I know that thing also gets worn out. Seriously I know people have their preferences but your arguments are almost invalid when compared side by side. Anything can really fail but really you hope and trust they wont.
    I guess I'd rather place my faith in hardware than in a vacuum pump that can have a seal leak at any time. But that's me.

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    you mean the hardware that works on the principle of tension that can fail just the same? (Although not very likely) I dont say I dont trust the mechanical racks, but the case you do make against the suckers is very weak. Believe me if there is a bad seal you will know right away.

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    If, for example, a seal in the pump fails when it's on then you'll have a catastrophic failure. Generally, with more traditional racks there is more redundancy.

    But, like I said, if you want to use one - great. I'm not going to. Nice to have choices.

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    @johnj80 I agree that it is possible that one seal can fail, but the possibility of all failing simultaneously is pretty low. If you believe the specs, each one can hold 200lbs of force. All of the racks have at least 3 points of contact in the front, giving you about 600lbs. Lose one, down to 400lb. That seems like redundancy to me. Add the one suction to the rear too.
    And I agree, it is nice to have choice in the marketplace. For some people, this is the ideal rack. I use mine when my wife won't let me keep the bike in the trunk!!

    Actually, I think this rack could save oil!! Really!! Most roof racks create drag and if you only ride a few days a week, then you are losing some MPGs. I think my car lost about 3mpg with my roof rack and that is without a bike attached. The Seasuckers come off the car easily, negating this problem.

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    Do the math on the savings in miles per gallon with a rack on and off. This isn't an issue.

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    This is why I love this rack. Just got another car and guess what? I can still use my rack without any cutting of my bars or fit kits to buy. Up in 3 minutes. Held on all day and went on a 75MPH freeway ride.


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    Well I did the calculations below. This is the gas savings I would get if I didn't drive around with my old Yakima bike rack.

    My car gets about 30mpg on freeway driving. In this scenario, I am mainly freeway driving. More speed, more wind resistance. Anyways, leave my Yakima rack on without a bike, I am getting 27mpg.

    My tank is about 14 gallons.

    No rack. 30x14=420 miles on one tank.
    With rack and no bike 27x14=378 miles on one tank.

    420-378=42 mile difference. I am losing over one gallon of gas for every tank, which is about $4.35. Not horrible, but not energy efficient.
    Now if I stuck to city traffic, my savings would probably be less. But I am pretty sure I would lose about 1-2mpg.

    Just one of the benefits of using a removable rack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allroy71 View Post
    Well I did the calculations below. This is the gas savings I would get if I didn't drive around with my old Yakima bike rack.

    My car gets about 30mpg on freeway driving. In this scenario, I am mainly freeway driving. More speed, more wind resistance. Anyways, leave my Yakima rack on without a bike, I am getting 27mpg.

    My tank is about 14 gallons.

    No rack. 30x14=420 miles on one tank.
    With rack and no bike 27x14=378 miles on one tank.

    420-378=42 mile difference. I am losing over one gallon of gas for every tank, which is about $4.35. Not horrible, but not energy efficient.
    Now if I stuck to city traffic, my savings would probably be less. But I am pretty sure I would lose about 1-2mpg.

    Just one of the benefits of using a removable rack.
    The power of numbers. Plus perma-racks look like sh!t and make god awful noise going down the hwy. Former Yakima owner.
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    So, if I did that right, that pays back in 28,000 miles of driving with your bike on the car since I presume you are taking this off your car when not transporting your bike.

    Or more precisely, 26K miles for the single version and 36K miles for the dual version.

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    I love the Idea of the Sea-Sucker, and wanted to use them. My main concern was not the sea sucker, but the window. My car has a large piece of glass and we were concerned with it detaching from the rest of the hatch. I wouldn't want to attach it to the roof, as it could scratch the paint and there has been a recall already of the roof delaminating from the frame with no outside help.
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    I'm worried about the window also. Not sure about all that force on a window.

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    From what ive seen windows are put on pretty solid. Even when I have gotten a windshield or rear windshield replaced, it usually takes two of those guys to try and pop it out. But that might be something you ask around and see how much actual force it takes to remove your window.

    If you have had recalls on the roof, I can see why your leery or putting it up there. My Mini has a softer roof than any of my other cars but still handle the bikes like a champ.

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    Can you get these somwhere in europe? Shipping cost from US is ridiculous when buying straight from seasucker.

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    Did you try carbonconnection.com? Thats where I got mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 426h View Post
    Can you get these somwhere in europe? Shipping cost from US is ridiculous when buying straight from seasucker.
    where do you need them shipped to? Email me and i can give you a quote

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    just got mine in the mail, pretty excited to try it out.

    also sub'd to read through thread later

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    Btw, MTBR was awesome enough to give me a tshirt for my seasucker review. Still using them, so convenient and useful

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    gc4rr - looking fwd to your review. Probably going to get one myself soon.

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    Seasucker Savings

    I love the idea of these, removable, reusable on any car (more or less) and saves petrol/gas. I have a small car and since I installed Thule bars and 2 Yakima racks two things have happened: I get 100km less on a fill (350km down from 450km); and above 60kph the noise from the racks (without a bike) is horrendous. I worked out the racks will pay for themselves in less than one year.

    I've searched a lot for postings of catastrophic failures and I can't find any. Has anyone? The redundancy of multiple suckers is a great feature so I can't see safety being a real issue. Sure, one may fail or lose vacuum from time to time but how long would you actually leave them on your car without checking them? I give my Thule racks a shake now and again to check them out for example.

    Off to the shop to get some this week. There is a mini-bomber with my name on it.

    Of course the only problem now is how to easily find my car in the huge Malaysian parking lots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggersilhouette View Post
    I love the idea of these, removable, reusable on any car (more or less) and saves petrol/gas. I have a small car and since I installed Thule bars and 2 Yakima racks two things have happened: I get 100km less on a fill (350km down from 450km); and above 60kph the noise from the racks (without a bike) is horrendous. I worked out the racks will pay for themselves in less than one year.

    I've searched a lot for postings of catastrophic failures and I can't find any. Has anyone? The redundancy of multiple suckers is a great feature so I can't see safety being a real issue. Sure, one may fail or lose vacuum from time to time but how long would you actually leave them on your car without checking them? I give my Thule racks a shake now and again to check them out for example.

    Off to the shop to get some this week. There is a mini-bomber with my name on it.

    Of course the only problem now is how to easily find my car in the huge Malaysian parking lots!
    Just make sure the suction cups are a little damp before you stick them on the car.
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    Yeah I just put a little spay bottle in my cars for that. Works perfect. I have put them on dry and still hold but I have never gone too far this way just a quick ride to the trail. I mostly always dampen them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traildawg View Post
    Seasucker will have the ability to adapt Yakima and Thule products in the future. We should have some pics for you down the road.
    Did this ever happen? Love the idea but also like platform racks where I can both wheels on. Thanks!

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    You can definately modify them. All it takes is a 1/4 machine screw. I sold my Thule Big Mouth Racks if not I would test it out. Here is my Thule Snowboard racks modified.




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    Sea sucker

    I have a sea sucker and love it. only failure i had was having it sucked to my front windshield and turning on the wiper, wiper broke and the cup didn't even move haha. The sea sucker got me back riding again. Got this car didn't want a roof rack or hitch or anything on it. Found the sea sucker went for it and never looked back. I have tested this thing like crazy. I drive all highway to ride holding a about 75 no prob. I just wet the car dry with micro fiber cloth then apply. Commute to trail take bike off then sea suckers off put them in the trunk. I then ride and come back reapply suckers them put the bike on then back home. The only failure i read about is that someone had the sea sucker cup get messed up but not using the orange PROTECTIVE covers while they left it in the car for about a month while on vacation . I personally wouldn't leave my sea suckers in the car for days on end it get hot in the car, plus thats what the PROTECTIVE covers are for. I agree they are not cheap but neither are truck rack or hitchs or roof racks. It was the cheapest by far from the choices i had for my car. The best part is no marks and its not car specific. Hope other ppl give the sea suckers a chance its a good product i have had mine for like 6 months and glad to have it
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    yea maybe could make a rack for carrying luggage to the air port )

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    or maybe a rack for the in-laws

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    Hmmm. Wonder if I could get one of these to work on my S2000 to haul my 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitet777 View Post
    Hmmm. Wonder if I could get one of these to work on my S2000 to haul my 29er.
    I would measure the wheel base of the 29er and see if u could place it on the windsheild and the back tire on the roof. If u need any help let me know

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    Did a test fit on the S2000 last night. No way would it work. Not even close. Chainring will hit for sure.

    BTW, a S2000 is a convertible so putting anything on the roof or windows won't work either.

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    Has anyone installed this on a new Camaro. I would to be able to drive my car and haul my bike at the same time.

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    You left the convertible part out. Maybe you could do something with the top down.like windscreen the front tire and the back on the trunk? I don't have the measurements. Or the front tire on the passenger dash and back tire on the trunk with the top down also. When I store my sea suckers I some times just suck it to a wall and leave it.

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    ... and if we just ... maiden voyage

    Saw this on "mikeshoutouts". Seemed perfect for what i was looking for.

    Had an 8hr round trip to get my bike. First 4 i stuck them to the area i would be using to see how they did. Kind of a control. Spent a few days doing other things with the rack in a box.

    Next 4 was moment of truth. High winds, 70mph. X4 hrs. Worked flawlessly. Kept an eye on them through my sunroof. No issues what so ever.

    Advice:

    Clean the location. Use a bit of moisture. Going to pack a spray bottle to prep the sites w/ visible water.

    Keep the spare sucion cup with you.

    USE THE PROTECTIVE COVERS THEY GIVE YOU WHEN NOT IN USE. Make sure they are on well when not in use. Saddly i think the single cup protector must have worked its way off. Found it resting on another. Long story short, just the weight of the single cup caused a small misshapen area. Suction needs a uniform seal. And this half millimeter area ruined the entire seal. I hope it reforms. But brought the spare cup, whipped out the Philips head, and done. Very very very easy.

    Going to write the company and see what they say about a replacement. Never hurts. Im not one to sue over hot coffee, but would be nice if they make it well known to use the covers when not in use. Or if the cup edge will reform over time.

    Will let you know.

    Result of first test: B+. (Only give this because im still nervous)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbltap View Post
    Result of first test: B+. (Only give this because im still nervous)
    I bought the Talon last year when I owned a Chevy HHR. I recently got a small pickup and use the same SeaSucker Rack. I can only fit 2 cups on the rear window at anytime; even with only those two cups (and on one occasion only one) my bike has made it safely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbltap View Post
    Going to write the company and see what they say about a replacement. Never hurts. Im not one to sue over hot coffee, but would be nice if they make it well known to use the covers when not in use. Or if the cup edge will reform over time.
    I believe they do make it known to make sure and use the covers when not in use at least thats what it said on my instructions with the mini bomber. I have had mine for about 4 months now and people at the trailheads always ask me what kind of rack it is. Also if you need a replacement cup because one is damaged its only like 12 bucks I think when you send the old one back.

    On another note, I have the upgraded fork mounts on mine and one of them just came totally apart without misuse. I wrote em, called em and left a message and nothing. Mind you I live in the Utah so when I would remember to call they would be closed already. But I never heard back from them which is a bit annoying. Well finally today I remember to call while they are open for business and got an answer right away. If this is any indication of their CS then its pretty crappy that they dont return calls and emails. But if you get them while they are there then guess you will be helped right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitet777 View Post
    Did a test fit on the S2000 last night. No way would it work. Not even close. Chainring will hit for sure.

    BTW, a S2000 is a convertible so putting anything on the roof or windows won't work either.
    Put it on the Hood & Windshield

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    Put it on the Hood & Windshield
    Huge respect if I saw someone rolling up to the trailhead with their bike on the hood.
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    Decided to sell my Boofsquire hatch rack (designed solely for the Nissan Z) and buy a SeaSucker Talon. My SeaSucker Talon came with the upgraded Delta Hitch Pro fork mount which is very easy and quick to use. Just had to buy a padlock (visible in image #2) which provides some security. The Delta Hitch Pro fork has a major flaw, which once a thief realizes, can remove your bike. As an extra precaution, I remove my SeaSucker Talon every time I take off my bike at a trail. It is more versatile then my previous rack so I don't mind. As others have mentioned, you need to moisten the cups before attaching for a secure seal. I keep a water bottle handy and spray the cups and area on the car where I plan on attaching. Also, when not in use, use the protective covers.

    So far, enjoying it. I did do a test and attached the rear tire mount to my bathroom mirror. It held for 9 hrs and then I removed it. I decided to take it off the mirror as I was more than satisfied with the results.

    I have gone 80 mph for 40 miles with no issues. This is the farthest and fastest I have driven so far with the SeaSucker Talon attached.

    On a side note, I always have people stop by my car and ask questions when my SeaSucker Talon is attached. Good conversation piece.

    MY RATING**: A

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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    MY RATING: B+ (gave this due to having to remove rack every time bike is taken off to deter thieves)
    IMO, that is a huge A+ of the SeaSucker Bike Rack System.. I've seen way too many of your everyday bike racks get jacked on the trailheads... so much so that i see quite a few people waste valuable ride time just to take their "big name" racks off to put it in their cars..

    & no, i'm not only saying this because we sell the racks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    IMO, that is a huge A+ of the SeaSucker Bike Rack System.. I've seen way too many of your everyday bike racks get jacked on the trailheads... so much so that i see quite a few people waste valuable ride time just to take their "big name" racks off to put it in their cars..

    & no, i'm not only saying this because we sell the racks..


    I have to agree. As an owner of a expensive car, I dont want a rack on it all the time it cheapens the look of cars IMO. I feel the quickness of how the seasucker attaches and detaches is a "Huge" plus.
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    I bought the SeaSucker Bomber because I could not find a rack of ANY kind to carry bikes on a Cadillac CTS Coupe. I was very skeptical because I have a lot of money in my bikes and I feared it would fail. After a year of frequently commuting 6 hours to the Texas hill country, I have to say I am extremely impressed. As long as your mounting area is clean and moist, it would take an 800lb gorilla to make my SeaSucker Bomber drop a bike. Not to mention I can take it off and put it in the trunk when not in use. Best bike carrier I have ever come across.

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    Just bought the Talon model with the Delta upgrade along with a 20mm adapter. Should be arriving sometime next week. Want to give a shout out to Slumpy for pointing out this cool product. Gave you some reps for it man! Looking forward to riding new trails!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Of course it is easy to talk about something I've not actually put my hands on. It's also pretty easy to understand something this simple and where it's problems lie. I'm not saying it's totally not a functional rack, I am just saying that it has a fairly significant catastrophic failure mode and it's dang expensive for what it provides. I also just don't put things that sit on the finish of my cars. I tend to have pretty nice cars and that seems to me to be false economy. Fixing a ding or paint is more than the cost of a rack in a hurry. That's all for me, but YMMV.

    I do think it's an intriguing concept though.

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    It would make much more sense that you would go with a system like the Seasucker than a mechanical roof rack if you are so afriad of scratching your car. To each it's own I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_spec View Post
    It would make much more sense that you would go with a system like the Seasucker than a mechanical roof rack if you are so afriad of scratching your car. To each it's own I guess.
    uh. no.

    I have two BMWs both with roof rails on them - a 530xi wagon and an X5. Why would I want to use a suction cup right on the car's finish when I have those roof rails? That would be foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    uh. no.

    I have two BMWs both with roof rails on them - a 530xi wagon and an X5. Why would I want to use a suction cup right on the car's finish when I have those roof rails? That would be foolish.

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    For some reason i pictured you having a 911 Porsche the way you sounded on your post LOL. But you are right, if BMW's came with roof rails no need for Seasuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_spec View Post
    For some reason i pictured you having a 911 Porsche the way you sounded on your post LOL. But you are right, if BMW's came with roof rails no need for Seasuckers.
    Because fixed roof racks cheapens the look of cars.

    Logged about 7000 miles on my seasucker on my Infiniti, not a scratch.
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    I have 2 of the single bike 3 suckers and I love them.
    I use them on the back window of my Yukon and have used them on the tailgate of my truck a few times as well.
    And when I had my zo6 I would use them on the roof at 80ish all the time. Once, I forgot my bike was up there and hit 140ish on a rural highway

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Because fixed roof racks cheapens the look of cars.

    Logged about 7000 miles on my seasucker on my Infiniti, not a scratch.
    It can, but mine don't. I have the aero bars from Yak that fit inside the rails and then the aero Thule Echelon mounts on top. Looks great and it's, amazingly enough, quieter than without the bars. No impact on gas mileage.

    I just also don't want to deal with the bikes resting on the finish of the car. Given that I drive my Bimmers for 200-300K miles, I am pretty cautious about that.

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    I can see the color of the cups changed to black and there are black protective covers over the pumps.

    Any other changes?

    Any chance the black protective covers for the pumps can be purchased separately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    I can see the color of the cups changed to black and there are black protective covers over the pumps.

    Anything other changes?

    Any chance the black protective covers for the pumps can be purchased separately?

    they are still a couple months out but i should be getting one very soon to inspect.

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    Just did a 8hr trip with my SeaSucker in two 4 hour intervals separated by getting gas. Didn't have to touch the rack once or even pump the vacuum any more on the entire trip. I averaged 75 mph for those 8 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    Nice pics!! From what i can see, looks to be just a black version. I would opt for the black over the white as my white cups are starting to show dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Nice pics!! From what i can see, looks to be just a black version. I would opt for the black over the white as my white cups are starting to show dirt.
    There are a few lucky customers that we shipped blacks ones to this passed week. The demand is so unreal right now for these racks that trying to keep up with it is tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    There are a few lucky customers that we shipped blacks ones to this passed week. The demand is so unreal right now for these racks that trying to keep up with it is tough.
    Do you know if anyone will take exchanges, white for black? Or even just the cups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Do you know if anyone will take exchanges, white for black? Or even just the cups?
    DK about that, but im sure the black cups will be for sale in the future. since the cups are UV resistant, they will last you forever.

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    Want to provide some comments on a recent experience...

    I went on a 2.5 hour drive with my bike on the SeaSucker Talon. For the first hour of the drive, I drove between 70 - 80 mph on the highway. For the second hour of the trip, it poured heavily and at one point, everyone pulled over as you couldn't see more than 20 feet in front of you. I pulled over as well and watched the rain clean and pound by bike for a good 30 minutes. After it stopped raining, I got out to inspect my bike and rack. All pumps showed full suction and I proceeded on my way. For the remaining 30 minutes of the drive, there was light rain. When I arrived at my destination and proceeded to remove my bike and rack, I checked once again. All pumps showed full suction. My SeaSucker Talon held up all the way without loosing any suction.

    Would definitely recommend!!!
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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Want to provide some comments on a recent experience...

    I went on a 2.5 hour drive with my bike on the SeaSucker Talon. For the first hour of the drive, I drove between 70 - 80 mph on the highway. For the second hour of the trip, it poured heavily and at one point, everyone pulled over as you couldn't see more than 20 feet in front of you. I pulled over as well and watched the rain clean and pound by bike for a good 30 minutes. After it stopped raining, I got out to inspect my bike and rack. All pumps showed full suction and I proceeded on my way. For the remaining 30 minutes of the drive, there was light rain. When I arrived at my destination and proceeded to remove my bike and rack, I checked once again. All pumps showed full suction. My SeaSucker Talon held up all the way without loosing any suction.

    Would definitely recommend!!!
    Amazing real life Field Testing. Thanx for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    Amazing real life Field Testing. Thanx for the feedback.
    Yea. This drive definitely tested the Talon and I'm glad to say, it past.

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    What an ingenious idea. Definitely got to get me one of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    uh. no.

    I have two BMWs both with roof rails on them - a 530xi wagon and an X5. Why would I want to use a suction cup right on the car's finish when I have those roof rails? That would be foolish.

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    Because these are made for people without roof racks?

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    Even if I had a sedan (i.e. no rails). I'm not putting anything on the finish of a car like that. I'd get a hitch installed first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Even if I had a sedan (i.e. no rails). I'm not putting anything on the finish of a car like that. I'd get a hitch installed first.

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    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. For me, this is the only exterior option I have with my car (Nissan 370Z) and so far it's working.

    FYI, no scratches to my car's exterior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. For me, this is the only exterior option I have with my car (Nissan 370Z) and so far it's working.

    FYI, no scratches to my car's exterior.
    U-haul phoenix offered to take the bumper off and make a custom fab receiver for free if I left the 370 with them for a few days, but the rest of the interior space is so limited that I didn't think that car was worth it for me as my "only car", so I passed on the 370 ultimately. Presumably this offer was so they could make more for other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post
    Well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. For me, this is the only exterior option I have with my car (Nissan 370Z) and so far it's working.

    FYI, no scratches to my car's exterior.
    For what I have in cars, it's not worth it. Even a small scratch would cost more to fix properly than the rack cost new. That seems to me like a bad trade off. If the car has hard points for rack attachments, those work. Rails are great. Otherwise, it's a hitch.

    BTW, you can get custom hitches made. Not a big deal and not particularly expensive.

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    I have a 2011 Cadillac CTS Coupe and I have been carrying my BMC Four Stroke Carbon and my Cervelo R3 with a SeaSucker Bomber for over a year now without any problems to the paint or anything else. There is not a bad thing that can be said about this system. I can't imagine anyone even suggesting installing a TRAILER HITCH over a SeaSucker.

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    Enjoy your rack. I'd never put it on my car for the reason's listed. Is this a great country or what?

    "not a bad thing" - wow perfection in my lifetime. Never thought I'd see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Enjoy your rack. I'd never put it on my car for the reason's listed. Is this a great country or what?

    "not a bad thing" - wow perfection in my lifetime. Never thought I'd see it.

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    I will and I'm sure others as well

    FYI, I did look at a hitch as a possibiliy before getting the SeaSucker...
    (1) More expensive. About twice the cost due to the custom installation involved to the rear of my car to accommodate the hitch mount.
    (2) I would have to leave my car with the shop for "x" amount of days leaving me without a car. Would have to rent a car (increasing the overall cost) or rely on others for transportation.
    (3) I wanted something which would be compatible with any vehicle. Yes, a hitch rack is but the other vehicle would have to have a hitch mount.
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    What you miss is the cost to repair what I'm worried about - any surface damage on the paint.

    Do I HAVE to use this rack or is it my option to do what I want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    What you miss is the cost to repair what I'm worried about - any surface damage on the paint.

    Do I HAVE to use this rack or is it my option to do what I want?

    J.
    That's if surface damage occurs. I haven't experienced any yet and so far no one on this thread has reported any damage to their vehicles as well. I do take extra precaution including making sure the cups, as well as, the surface area on my car are clean before attaching the rack.

    Damage can also occur from using a hitch. Shoot, I have the chance everyday of getting a door ding from careless drivers which would cost money to repair.
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    A decent buff job would take care of any scratches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canker View Post
    A decent buff job would take care of any scratches.
    Exactly, as others as said, I would rather use the Seasucker over having a hitch installed, or mounting a roof rack onto my C-pillars. To each his own, that's why there is multiple options.

    Even if I did get minor scratches on the paint as a car enthusiast, I have plenty of detailing materials and a buffer to do minor paint correction. I already buff the the DD yearly as it is to keep it looking sharp. The winter really does a number on the cars here.

    Ill post pictures of the my DD 1995 Mustang w/ Seasucker Talon rack once I have enough posts to do so.

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    I'm not taking a $50K car and buffing out scratches nor even setting myself up for that to happen. That would be silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I'm not taking a $50K car and buffing out scratches nor even setting myself up for that to happen. That would be silly.

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    Your comments are base on the fact that this product WILL scratch the paint. If you do your due diligence and clean both the surface the suction will be applied as well as the cup itself, and insure proper suction pressure, than what is there to scratch the surface of your vehicle. You said before that you would install a hitch before using this method, I think that is crazy. Many people who use this product, myself included, prefer the look of my vehicle without a rack or hitch. The hitch on many sedans will actually void manufacturers’ warranties as they can not prove that they have not towed loads above the allowable weight. I for one love the fact this detaches, leaves no scratches or dents, and can be stored in the glove box rather than taking up my trunk or corner of the garage when not in use… Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you are basing your opinions on assumptions.


    P.S. I drive a Subaru WRX that I initially had a nice Thule rack up top, until I saw SeaSuckers at a local race…. I have since ditched the rack, enjoy the look of my car and enjoy the simplicity of the setup much better. A coworker with a M3 has recently caught on and has no scratches either….

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    RIght. So it's one mistake and I spend more than the rack is worth in damage to the car. No thanks. If you want to do it, go ahead. I'm not and won't.

    I've had lots and lots of cars, all with trailer hitches. It's never been a problem. If they manufacturer says you can tow, you can have a hitch. It's not an issue. You can also have a hitch and if you don't tow, it's fine. If the mfg tries to disallow a warranty claim when you never towed, that's silly and I've never heard of that happening to anyone I've known. Up here, everybody tows and probably half the vehicles have hitches. It's just not an issue.

    But who cares? Enjoy your rack. I don't want bikes sitting on the finish of my car either for the weight or for potential damage to the paint. If you do, that's great - knock yourself out and have a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    But who cares? Enjoy your rack. I don't want bikes sitting on the finish of my car either for the weight or for potential damage to the paint. If you do, that's great - knock yourself out and have a blast.

    J.
    Everyone has their own view on how they see things, yours is that a rubber vacuum cup will scratch the paint in your high dolla car. I can tell you that in my experience dealing with SeaSucker Bike Racks, im yet to see a scratch caused by it.

    I personally havent used any type of rack that holds my bikes by the frame in many years(i've learned my lesson there).
    Like you have alot invested in cars, i have alot invested in bikes and they did nothing but ruin my frames.

    BTW, here's a pic of one of our many customers that use the SeaSucker Rack on their Truly expensive cars.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post

    I personally havent used any type of rack that holds my bikes by the frame in many years(i've learned my lesson there).
    Like you have alot invested in cars, i have alot invested in bikes and they did nothing but ruin my frames.
    This, I agree with. Don't hold your bikes by the frame (although fork mount is ok). Been there, done that and it ended badly. I also have a lot invested in bikes.

    Just not worth it for me to put stuff on my car finnish and I'm not going to do it. Is this a great country or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    This, I agree with. Don't hold your bikes by the frame (although fork mount is ok). Been there, done that and it ended badly. I also have a lot invested in bikes.

    Just not worth it for me to put stuff on my car finnish and I'm not going to do it. Is this a great country or what?

    J.
    Yes it is a great country and thats fine that you dont want to use it and rather install a hitch rack on a nice BMW but hey, the land of the free the home of the great. I just dont want your misconception of this product influence others that it will ruin the finish of a car

    Your unfounded comments were reminding me of this famous quote:

    “Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world, can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.” – Michael Scott

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    So, I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion if it doesn't meet yours. Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    You are categorically saying then, that should there ever be a scratch under the rack, you're willing to cover the cost of repair under warranty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    So, I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion if it doesn't meet yours. Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    You are categorically saying then, that should there ever be a scratch under the rack, you're willing to cover the cost of repair under warranty?

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    What i've said is pretty clear my friend. You were not stating an opinion, you're making it sound like a fact. follow the instructions of the product, place it on a flat CLEAN surface and you should have any issues. Why are you even questioning about repair under warranty? you just said you rather put a hitch on your car. Furthermore, what company would warranty something that more than likely is caused by user error, i bet you're the type that would put the application on a dirty car just to cause a scratch for a lawsuit..

    this thread was created to share useful information and im bewildered on why you keep engaging in it when you have told us all repeatedly of your bike rack intentions.

    Anyhow, From SeaSucker's Website:
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    I have seen a newer Audi A8 around town with a SeaSucker on there with a sweet carbon bike. I would get one if the cost wasn't an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    So, I guess I'm not entitled to an opinion if it doesn't meet yours. Got it. Thanks for the heads up.

    You are categorically saying then, that should there ever be a scratch under the rack, you're willing to cover the cost of repair under warranty?

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    It's not an opinion, its an incorrect statement.
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    Here is a crappy cell phone pic of my Talon rack. I am very happy with the purchase, it goes on and comes off quickly allowing me to store in it in the car while out on the trails.

    I am glad I went with this over a trunk rack system.


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    Why? Simple. If my concerns are "unfounded" then it's a product issue and warranty should cover it. If my concerns are not unfounded, and apparently they are not, then they won't warranty it.

    It all depends on how well you clean it and if you get any grit under there, you can damage your finish. Seems pretty simple to me and not unfounded concerns.

    Thanks for the example.

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    I put my Seasucker to use yesterday on my wife's 2011 Prius here in the Midwest....super windy day, headed straight into the wind at 70+ mph, no issues. Still got 44mpg normally average about 48..... I love my Seasucker
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    Sweet pics guys and thanks for the real-world data on how well these things hold up to a good storm and highway speeds.

    I'm guessing JohnJ80 is still trolling about how much better a rack or hitch system is to a system that you can actually take with you if you ever get a new car. Man I wish I could afford a $50,000 car just to ruin it by putting a hitch on it. And no the warranty isn't void, but on a car it can greatly reduce the resale value. On a pickup a receiver hitch can increase the value though.

    The reason why it wouldn't be covered by a warranty is because it is unfounded, if there is no reason for a scratch to occur if proper care and installation is performed why would they warranty against that happening?

    A defect of owner is not a defect of product.

    Can't wait till I can afford one of these.

    ProEdgeBiker, how clean does the surface need to be for this system to work? Is a good wipe down with a wet cloth good enough or should it be car wash clean? Or would a slightly dusty vehicle still work, I could care less about scratching my $3K car Or would that damage the suction cups as well, which would be a bigger concern for me.

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    Learn to read.

    The comment was made by supplier of seasucker racks that my comment that a seasucker could damage the paint was unfounded. My response to that was to ask if that can never categorically happen, then any damage to the paint by a seasucker would be covered by warranty. The answer was that yes, damage could occur and it would be considered the fault of the user and was not covered under warranty. Therefore, my comment that finish damage could occur is not unfounded - which was the entire point of it all. It can and easily.

    So, thanks but no thanks. I'm not interested if there is the opportunity to damage the finish of my car.

    Trailer hitches on SUVs are great for resale. And they are no problem on wagons either especially if you can remove them and/or you drive your car to 200K+ miles. At any rate, vehicles with rails on top are not an issue anyhow. Very easy to mount a rack. The Yak Whispbars for these look like factory equipment, are really solid and quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    Learn to read.

    The comment was made by supplier of seasucker racks that my comment that a seasucker could damage the paint was unfounded. My response to that was to ask if that can never categorically happen, then any damage to the paint by a seasucker would be covered by warranty. The answer was that yes, damage could occur and it would be considered the fault of the user and was not covered under warranty. Therefore, my comment that finish damage could occur is not unfounded - which was the entire point of it all. It can and easily.

    So, thanks but no thanks. I'm not interested if there is the opportunity to damage the finish of my car.

    Trailer hitches on SUVs are great for resale. And they are no problem on wagons either especially if you can remove them and/or you drive your car to 200K+ miles. At any rate, vehicles with rails on top are not an issue anyhow. Very easy to mount a rack. The Yak Whispbars for these look like factory equipment, are really solid and quiet.

    J.

    OK JohnJ80, we get it, you don't want a Seasucker, you are worried about your paint and finish. I don't blame you, that is important, and I'm a car guy, I understand too. I have, however, put this on my late model BMW with zero issues to paint/finish. Of course, I won't put it on my car if it's dirty and take proper precautions to make sure that it's clean/clear under the vacuum mounts (it sounds like you would do the same).

    As far as I've seen the ONLY thing that's dirty is the tap water/bottled water that dries on the car from having to moisten the mounts before mounting the Seasucker. The only "issue" that I've seen on both of my cars (if you even want to call it that) are the rings that show up on the paint after you remove the Seaucker. A little quick detailer spray and a microfiber cloth take it off in two seconds and the car looks great again (even better that there isn't a hitch or a roof rack taking away my mpgs all year long).

    For the record, I had a Thule Aero Bar rack on my '08 VW GTI and once I removed that when I sold my car there were PLENTY of scratches under the feet of the Thule. To properly wash the car you'd want to remove the entire rack so you could hit the paint with a clay bar and get all the contaminants off. Not an easy task by any means. There are so many positives that outweigh any negatives on the Seasucker...let's just agree to disagree and keep this thread relevant instead of a back and forth between those that actually HAVE the system with real world experience and those that don't.

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    Sure no sweat. It's important to look at this stuff objectively. The Seasucker can scratch your finish, it's not foolproof despite being marketed as such. Can it work with care. Apparently.

    I wouldn't use a Thule or Yak rack that sits on the car finish either for exactly the reasons you specify. Same caveat applies - if you don't get it squeaky clean, you'll get finish damage.

    FWIW, there are no scratches on the rails though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post

    FWIW, there are no scratches on the rails though.

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    Nope, but to get it (properly) cleaned, clayed, polished, waxed, etc, you still have to remove the attachments, and that's where it's a PITA.

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    Actually, check out the new Whispbars from Yak for between the rails. Very quick and easy to take on and off. Easiest rack I've ever used in point of fact. I can get these off the car in probably a couple of minutes tops.

    J.
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    JohnJ80: Just out of curiousity, what type of car do you drive?

    I, like you, am very careful about my car. I park AWAY from everyone and try to keep my 2011 Nissan 370Z as clean and spotless as possible. My car is leased so I couldn't do any welding to the rear which meant a hitch was out.There is a custom rack designed soley for the Z I could buy but it's tower legs attach to the hatch directly and can sractch the paint. I didn't want to store the bike inside my car due to (a) scratches, (b) dirt, and (c) awkward placement. So, I went with a SeaSucker Talon. I found it meets all my expecations and no scratches so far.

    FYI, this is my only car so I have to do with what works.
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    My two cars are a 2006 BMW 530 AWD wagon and a 2008 BMW X5 SUV. Both have rails on top. Both have hitches available both from BMW and aftermarket.

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    so after reading so many replies... sounds like seasucker is the way to go...I have a sarris bones and that thing just doesnn't mount to my 04 honda accord right. it actually fell off once with 2 bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinsurfstar View Post
    so after reading so many replies... sounds like seasucker is the way to go...I have a sarris bones and that thing just doesnn't mount to my 04 honda accord right. it actually fell off once with 2 bikes
    yeah man, pick one up, you won't be disappointed...Great product

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    I have been considering getting these to hold bikes on the back door of a full size ford van... attach seasuckers to the vertical windows on the back doors, back doors can still swing open with bikes attached....

    I believe in the rack... but I question whether the window would hold up! Even with the photos above of a guy hanging on a bike on he back of an SUV... how much force would it take to shatter the window or pull the window out of the vehicle?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightlost View Post

    ProEdgeBiker, how clean does the surface need to be for this system to work? Is a good wipe down with a wet cloth good enough or should it be car wash clean? Or would a slightly dusty vehicle still work, I could care less about scratching my $3K car Or would that damage the suction cups as well, which would be a bigger concern for me.
    What i do before installing it is wipe down the surface with a damp rag, push them down and suck out the excess air.. DONE.. the whole process takes a couple of minutes, get to the trail, it takes a couple of seconds to take off, put it in the car to avoid theft.
    Get back from riding, repeat fist step, go home..

    Versatility at its best...

    Today we received an awesome email & picture from a customer showing what else you can do with a SeaSucker, Check it out:
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    Sounds simple easy. I'll definitely be getting one when I can afford it

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightlost View Post
    Sounds simple easy. I'll definitely be getting one when I can afford it
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    Seasucker Lock

    2 questions regarding locks...

    1. Can you lock your bike to the Seasucker?

    2. Can you lock the Seasucker to your car or do you remove them any time the bike is not on?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG24 View Post
    2 questions regarding locks...

    1. Can you lock your bike to the Seasucker?

    2. Can you lock the Seasucker to your car or do you remove them any time the bike is not on?

    Thanks!
    1. Yes

    You can lock the fork mount of the SeaSucker using a standard key lock (see picture below for my bike).
    The SeaSucker uses a Delta locking fork mount. It does provide some security, but it is not full proof.



    2. Yes

    You can buy a cable loop and an anchor (2 types made by SeaSucker) and loop the bike frame and the fork mount to your car.
    If you go this way, you can disregard Answer #1.

    SeaSucker - Window Anchor



    SeaSucker - Trunk Anchor





    MY QUESTION: Does anyone use a cable and an anchor (window or trunk) as pictured above?


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    Quote Originally Posted by slumpey View Post

    MY QUESTION: Does anyone use a cable and an anchor (window or trunk) as pictured above?
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    Lets Face it, is it really worth getting your window busted & your bike/s stolen? if someone wants it, they will get it.

    As far as the trunk goes, that is a better way of securing the bike/mount.
    But i can tell you all that i have not sold 1 of either systems with the ton of racks that we sell.
    I believe its a personal preference if someone decides to go this route for their piece of mind.

    I choose to not use the locks cause my bikes never leave my eyesight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProEdgeBiker View Post
    Lets Face it, is it really worth getting your window busted & your bike/s stolen? if someone wants it, they will get it.

    As far as the trunk goes, that is a better way of securing the bike/mount.
    But i can tell you all that i have not sold 1 of either systems with the ton of racks that we sell.
    I believe its a personal preference if someone decides to go this route for their piece of mind.

    I choose to not use the locks cause my bikes never leave my eyesight.
    That's exactly how I thought of it as well. If someone wants the bike they will get it, and I rather that than coming out to my car with shattered windows, or and trunk decklid punctured AND my bike missing.

    For the most part my bike isn't mounted on the car for extended periods of time unless I am at work, but that is a secure lot. If I get to the trail Ill secure the SeaSucker in the trunk since its quick to take off and put back on.

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    I went to my LBS with both our bikes last weekend. I brought my bike in and left my wife's on the car...I did buy the anchors and I tried to figure them out (unsuccessfully) on her hatchback before I went inside....(didn't spend much time on it) but I have to admit I was checking every 30 secs through the windows in the front of the store but even just having a cable locked between her wheels or getting that anchor to work would make me feel a lot better than it just sitting up there, in public with ZERO protection at all. idk, guess I'm more paranoid than others...orrrrr I was in a dicey area in Milwaukee, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1rst 1 View Post
    I went to my LBS with both our bikes last weekend. I brought my bike in and left my wife's on the car...I did buy the anchors and I tried to figure them out (unsuccessfully) on her hatchback before I went inside....(didn't spend much time on it) but I have to admit I was checking every 30 secs through the windows in the front of the store but even just having a cable locked between her wheels or getting that anchor to work would make me feel a lot better than it just sitting up there, in public with ZERO protection at all. idk, guess I'm more paranoid than others...orrrrr I was in a dicey area in Milwaukee, lol.
    I too have a hatchback (370Z) and curious to see if the trunk anchor will work. May have to place the anchor at the top of my hatch instead of on the side. Don't really want the door anchor as, like ProEdgeBike said, you can simply smash a window. Seems to be happening around my area lately.

    I still prefer to remove my Talon completely, but may find this convienent if I'm at a trail and want to leave the Talon fork mount on my hatch while i am riding. The rear mount can be stored in the car. Cable loop would go thru the 2 rings on the fork mount to secure the Talon. Just a thought.
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