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    OT: Trucks (Tacoma or Frontier)

    I'm looking for a replacement truck to be my new (used) trail head vehicle. I have narrowed it to the Tacoma and the Frontier. I have a new baby so the 4 door versions look more appealing, but I like having the full length bed to camp in. I have seen a 4 door Frontier with the longer bed but they are hard to find used. Will the extended cab Toy fit a rear (or forward) facing baby seat? Please post some pics of your Tacos / Frontiers with your bike hauling setup with your comments or reccommendations please.

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    babies take awhile to grow...I would go with the best gas milage...both are good choices
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    More Tacoma and Frontier Info

    Here's some information to help you make your decision...

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/toyo...sbox.1.Toyota*
    Tacoma Reviews (no personal frontier reviews yet).


    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir...a&model=Tacoma
    In particular, there is a Tocoma Vs. Frontier thread near the top of the list.
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    From my experience, you'll probably want the Frontier with the 4 doors and long bed. The Tacoma 4 door doesn't come with the long bed, the regular bed on them is very short. As for the extended cab versions, there probably is not enough room for a baby seat. Plus, the Tacoma doesn't have the extended cab doors, and it's kind of a pain to get in to the extended cab. Not sure if the Frontier has the extended cab doors or not. Power is better in the Tacoma. I'm driving an XTerra right now, and it has the same motor as the Frontier, and it doesn't have a whole lot of power. So if that's something you're looking for, I would lean towards the Tacoma.

    P.S. I've been talking about the 2004 and earlier models.

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    My Rig...

    I think of it as a 4 Runner with a bed... It also came with a bed extender which increased the bed length (with the gate down) to around 6 feet. I can probably haul 7 bikes easily in the bed with the side fork mount...
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    With the gear...

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    I like my Tacoma 4dr. Rides good for a truck, back seat has room, and with a Sportworks rack I have the bed for camping gear and fire wood. With the exception of the Frontier long bed, I'm pretty sure the Tacoma has the longest bed in class. ie: Chevy S10, Ford Sportrac, Nissan Frontier...

    With a 4 place Sportworks and a 2x6 with 4 bike tights, the Taco becomes a great shuttle monkey!
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    Tacos

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvo
    I'm looking for a replacement truck to be my new (used) trail head vehicle. I have narrowed it to the Tacoma and the Frontier. I have a new baby so the 4 door versions look more appealing, but I like having the full length bed to camp in. I have seen a 4 door Frontier with the longer bed but they are hard to find used. Will the extended cab Toy fit a rear (or forward) facing baby seat? Please post some pics of your Tacos / Frontiers with your bike hauling setup with your comments or reccommendations please.

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    The new 05 tacoma is longer and wider than the previous version. I have a '96 extra cab and I can fit my baby seat in the back facing forward, but not backwards. The new four door taco is quite spacious. I too am looking at a new truck but I'm deciding between a taco and a tundra. Just the other day I went to the dealer and looked at both. I am just under 6' tall and I can fit comfortably in the rear seat of the taco.

    the four door (double cab if you're interested) also comes with a 6' bed as an option so you get extra passenger space without losing cargo space. and, the V6 is rated at 245 hp! my V6 is only 190 so that's quite an improvement!

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    I had a 1999 X-Cab Tacoma for a while. We barely had room for a forward facing child seat. No way a rear facing infant seat would work unless your wife is 4 feet tall and can have the passenger seat upright and all the way forward (turn off the airbag). SO really it is a chioce between the safety of your kid and the safety of your spouse. My conclusion, get a different vehicle.

    If it was just for you - whole different story. The Toyota was great. Fun to drive, reliable, a bit thirsty though.

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    I would go with the new Frontier for sure.Even the Kingcab model has a third door and the engine is anounced as the most powerfull V6 in its class,also the truck has a stock bedcoating and a variety of fasteners allready mounted to the bed,perfect for MTB if you ask me.
    And Taco´s are nothing special,anyone and his mother has one.If you think about a TRD Taco you should think about the NISMO version of the Frontier.Also the new Frontier isn´t a smallsize truck anymore,it is more a midsize,much bigger than the Taco but smaller than the Nissan flagship,the Titan wich has an even stronger V8 in it.Also the styling is bit more modern than at the Toyotas,but that will be a personal preference anyway.
    I think it will be worth checking it out.
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    05 Taco

    I've been eying the double cab Taco with the long bed to replace my 8 year old Mazda. The funny thing is the prices seem to be nearly as high as the Tundra. I'm thinking I'll give my Mazda a couple of more years before I give her up. One thing is for sure. All the competition in the mid size truck market will be good for consumers in the next few years. I figure with Honda entering the market and Toyota and Nissan's new roll-outs -- there is bound to be some dealing once the market settles a bit.

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    My Frontier

    I have an 03 Frontier. It's been solid all the way to 30,000. No problems. It's not the 4 door version but nonetheless my vote is for Nissan. The new ones look tight, bigger engines too.

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    not only do they barely fit childs seat, they aren't very safe in crashes(maybe the 05 tacoma is better, don't know for sure)...i was in your shoes a few years ago and went with a full size extra cab truck, mpg difference is a non issue unless you get one of the heavy duty trucks...was happy with my decision and still am (ford f 150, 1997, my first american vehicle and to be honest its the most reliable vehicle i have owned, in the shop once in 3 years for brakes), gets 15-16 in the city and 18-20 hiway, my old truck was a 93 nissan xcab v-6 and it got 17 mpg city and hi way....maybe this wasn't helpful, but it worked well for me...
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    Maybe it's my skewed perception, but I always think that Nissan is like Chevy when it comes to quality...poor! Thus, in my mind, the choice is clear unless the Nissan is several thousand dollars cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Maybe it's my skewed perception, but I always think that Nissan is like Chevy when it comes to quality...poor! Thus, in my mind, the choice is clear unless the Nissan is several thousand dollars cheaper.
    Nissan's ARE several thousands cheaper...And the quality is the same, or very close to it.

    The difference is resale value as well...in that area nissans can't touch toyotas...if you plan on driving it until the wheels fall off, then they are extremely close.

    In terms of the 05's, it's a tough call...nissan more powerful by about 30 HP. Get the 6speed either way...
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    I've got a two year old and I'll be going for the 4 door long bed Frontier when my lease is up. Right now I gots this
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Maybe it's my skewed perception, but I always think that Nissan is like Chevy when it comes to quality...poor! Thus, in my mind, the choice is clear unless the Nissan is several thousand dollars cheaper.

    I think your perception is skewed. I have owned two Nissan Frontier trucks( a 1997 and a 2003). I never had any problems out of either one. Just regular oil changes and routine maintenance.

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    skewed indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    Maybe it's my skewed perception, but I always think that Nissan is like Chevy when it comes to quality...poor! Thus, in my mind, the choice is clear unless the Nissan is several thousand dollars cheaper.
    I'm interested to hear about your experiences that give you this perception.

    I've also owned 2 Nissans. An 89 pickup and currently a 94 Pathfinder. They do seem to lack the cool factor that the Toys somehow picked up but reliability hasn't been a problem for me. Except for a lot of rust, the pickup had no problems except for a nuetral-safety switch that needed replaced at about 100k. I sold it to a friend's brother who continued driving it for a few years and before it developed warped heads. I suspect neglict on his part as the cause.

    The P-finder has almost 150k on it and, other than routine maintenance including replacing the timing chain, it had only a couple minor problems

    -similar problem as the neutral-safety switch on the p-up only this time it's very sporadic
    and since it always starts after a few turns of the key, I ignore it.

    - broken exhaust manifold studs. I think you have to expect that sort of thing on a truck of
    its age and mileage that often gets driven on rough roads.

    - real door latch wore out causing the interior light to stay on. No biggie.

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    Toyota's are nice but I would have to recommend the Frontier

    either one is a good choice but the Frontier/Xterra are geared more toward outdoor sports oriented person. they are loaded inside and out with extra gear tie downs and the interior has plenty of stash compartments for loose gear

    I was going to buy an Xterra but figured I would hold out till the Crosslander got to the US because it was supposed to come standard with a turbo deisel but 2 years later still no Croslander and now they dropped the turbo deisel for a v-6

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    Toyota

    Go with the Toyota. The Nissan is just plain ugly!

    I sold my '01, but looking to get another one when I can get a deal on a used one. For now I have to settle with my '03 Diamante VRX.


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    Neither... Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel!

    Not sure what your budget is, but if you're getting a 4x4 with 4 liter engine and a standard array of options, I think those get up there in the same price range as a diesel truck (with some good research and negotiating).

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    Neither... Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel!

    Not sure what your budget is, but if you're getting a 4x4 with 4 liter engine and a standard array of options, I think those get up there in the same price range as a diesel truck (with some good research and negotiating).
    I've been looking at trucks and yeah diesel Dodges are great-- If you own a construction company and want to tow 16,000 lbs! wasn't convinced a diesel was a good truck unless you are using it for heavy duty hauling though!

    ..so glad I'm only looking and not buying until this fall or later!


    PS: some of those tacoma pix are so purty with bikes em em! sheese, I could get a used tacoma just to hold me over! :-O

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    Nissan service can be poor...

    I spent the better half of the morning getting the run around(again) at Riverside(CA) Metro Nissan. Instead of warranting a broken shock on my new Titan, the service manager told me I need to contact my insurance co!!! On my way home I was figuring on ways to make the truck dissapear but decided to stop at Nissan of San Bernardino. In the end, they're going to make it right and are "happy to have my business." We'll see. Both my brothers have Tundras but don't know how their service dept. are since neither one has had to take thier trucks in. The Nissans sure are quick though.

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    I saw the new Honda today...

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbikeboy
    I've been eying the double cab Taco with the long bed to replace my 8 year old Mazda. The funny thing is the prices seem to be nearly as high as the Tundra. I'm thinking I'll give my Mazda a couple of more years before I give her up. One thing is for sure. All the competition in the mid size truck market will be good for consumers in the next few years. I figure with Honda entering the market and Toyota and Nissan's new roll-outs -- there is bound to be some dealing once the market settles a bit.

    mc
    The one that looks like a smaller Chevy Avalanche. It's mid size with a full size price tag. They just got 'em in and had no stickers yet but I was told the higher end models are around 35,000. Ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dir-T
    I'm interested to hear about your experiences that give you this perception.
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    I'm open minded despite my bias

    My only experiences:

    Owned a chevy blazer (1989) and never had a problem, gave it too my dad at 130k miles and its still going...Perfect! Then I bought a 1999 and it's junk...pinion bearings, ball joints, all sorts of problems including EGR valve, O2 sensor and burnt cables due to poor wire routing--this all happened around 38,000 miles

    Some friends of mine and sister had some nissans and they has similiar problems...plus lots of panel loosening and noise. They also complained about nissans being underpowered...something I guess they have fixed. The only raves I have heard about nissan recently are about the Maxima.

    Everyone I know with a Toyota (probably a dozen people), love theirs and many of them are on the 200K mark and deciding if they are going to get a new Toyota (what model to them is not the issue, it's that they have a fear that at 200k miles, the truck is going to explode or something).

    Here is what i hear: (I use friends loosely which includes co-workers)

    Most friends with fords complain
    friends with dodges seems happy...not too many of them
    friends with chevys complain
    friends with nissans complain
    friends with toyotas never complain
    friends with Subarus RAVE!

    I never complained about chevy until my latest blazer and then I felt betrayed...all those problems started @ 38,000 miles of highway driving (warranty bye bye).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvo
    I'm looking for a replacement truck to be my new (used) trail head vehicle. I have narrowed it to the Tacoma and the Frontier. I have a new baby so the 4 door versions look more appealing, but I like having the full length bed to camp in. I have seen a 4 door Frontier with the longer bed but they are hard to find used. Will the extended cab Toy fit a rear (or forward) facing baby seat? Please post some pics of your Tacos / Frontiers with your bike hauling setup with your comments or reccommendations please.

    Thanks
    I have a 2000 Frontier with 110K miles and I've been pretty happy with it. The only problems that I have had were with the a/c and a cracked exhaust manifold. I really wanted a Tacoma, but for what I paid for my V6 Auto, would have gotten me a 4 banger, stick Tacoma. The extended cab will not work with car-seats, but the crew cab should work out OK. The new Frontier looks really nice with 265 standard HP!
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    I had a Tacoma and I was thrilled with it. I just didn't know if the rear would fit a baby seat. I like the 4 doors but they don't offer a 6' bed like the 4 door Frontier does. I do carry more than bikes in the back so that is important. I have a dirt bike and I like to sleep back there some as well. Right now I'm in a Ford F-150 and it's just too big. It hauls lots of bikes and lots of riding buddies, but it takes 44 bucks to fill it up right now. It's tough to squeeze into small trail head parking spots too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvo
    I had a Tacoma and I was thrilled with it. I just didn't know if the rear would fit a baby seat. I like the 4 doors but they don't offer a 6' bed like the 4 door Frontier does. I do carry more than bikes in the back so that is important. I have a dirt bike and I like to sleep back there some as well. Right now I'm in a Ford F-150 and it's just too big. It hauls lots of bikes and lots of riding buddies, but it takes 44 bucks to fill it up right now. It's tough to squeeze into small trail head parking spots too.
    my only beef with the mid size truck is you get about the same gas mileage as a big truck...the new frontier looks nice with its 265 hp, but only 15 mpg(city)...as far as filling up, just cause the tank is bigger doesn't mean its costing you more, just have to fill up less....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    I've been looking at trucks and yeah diesel Dodges are great-- If you own a construction company and want to tow 16,000 lbs! wasn't convinced a diesel was a good truck unless you are using it for heavy duty hauling though!

    ..so glad I'm only looking and not buying until this fall or later!


    PS: some of those tacoma pix are so purty with bikes em em! sheese, I could get a used tacoma just to hold me over! :-O
    I don't own a construction company and don't tow 16K. Yet. I did tow about 7500# plus have another 1500# in the bed plus 4 bikes mounted over the bed (all with bras catching the wind) on a trip from TX to ME last summer. Got about 13+ MPG, too.

    I think diesels are good for the power and mileage for such a big vehicle. I get ~18-19 average with mine, and it's 4WD. Of course, with winter fuel I get less. If I had a 2WD, I'd get close to 25 at 75-75 MPH! That's pretty amazing for a 7000 # truck.

    Plus, you can run Biodiesel. Unfortunately, I don't have a bio place near me, so I'm stuck with pure dino for now. Probably when I stop moving around with the military, I'll set up a bio still and go around the local restaurants begging for their used fry oil. Free gas!

    I find it comfortable and reliable - the Cummins engine comes with a 100,000 mile warranty! The average time to overhaul is ~350,000-400,000 miles. And there are million mile Cummins engines out there. So far the Dodge truck has had a couple of nitnoid little things, but overall, no problems with that either. It's a GREAT road trip machine. When I went from DFW to Moab, I think I made the trip on only 2 tanks of fuel. Maybe 2 1/2.

    <img src="http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37122&stc=1">

    Really, if you're getting a pickup and don't need it for construction or whatever, then get what you want and can afford. You can justify getting a "smaller" Toy or Nissan as being more [fill in your rationale here], but do you really NEED that? Or just want one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader
    I was told the higher end models are around 35,000. Ouch!
    I paid just over 30,000 for my Cummins Ram SLT. With most of the toys; basically loaded except leather. Oh, and I chose the 6 speed manual vs an auto. 35 for that much less truck just doesn't make sense to me if you're going for a truck.

    Quote Originally Posted by bacolmm
    The new Frontier looks really nice with 265 standard HP!
    I've got 305 standard HP. And that's at 1600 RPM, not 6000! And I have 555 ft/pounds of torque. For a few hundred dollars, I can boost to about 400HP/700+TQ. Of course, that'll void that 100K warranty, so I'm holding off on getting a box for now.

    With the new QuadCab, you can put baby seats easily in the back. Or your riding buddies! (Same difference in some cases!) I mount the bikes over the bed so I can put all the biking gear in there, too. (Pics are from the trip to Moab last spring). I didn't get any of it loaded up during my move, but it was pretty impressive!

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    harvo, lidarman - if it's in your budget, you won't regret going diesel! Have you test driven any of the 3 diesels yet?
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    Bio-diesel...can't wait for that to be more widespread, its the way to go....any of you ever travel, all the trucks are diesel...i remember seeing the toyota hilux diesel (4 door short bed) in Costa Rica in 1993 and i wondered why we couldn't get those suckers here..
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    I have the quad Cab Tacoma

    I'd buy it again in a heartbeat. Get the 6; the loss of mileage is worth the power. The short bed handles 4 bikes with wheels removed easily but we manage 5 with the team and short rides. I tried the Frontier but it never was quite "finished" and was a bit too "tonka" for my tastes.
    My previous truck was and extended Cab Toy and a baby seat fit nicely in the back. In fact it was nice to load when you tilted the passenger seatback forward. Once the boys got bigger they could sit back there but, bigger yet and their heads would hit the window. Then I got the Quad Cab. It is a small bed but suits my usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh

    the Cummins engine comes with a 100,000 mile warranty! The average time to overhaul is ~350,000-400,000 miles.
    too bad the rest of the truck won't last even half that long. An engine with no home, sad! ...bottom line, and you alluded to it, everyone needs to evaluate what they need as a total package and not get hung up on things like mileage, engine durability, cost, accessories, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    too bad the rest of the truck won't last even half that long. An engine with no home, sad! ...bottom line, and you alluded to it, everyone needs to evaluate what they need as a total package and not get hung up on things like mileage, engine durability, cost, accessories, etc.
    well.... my first one ('98) lasted for 96K miles before I traded it. Body was still in great shape. And I got over 50% of my purchase price in resale, too, after 5 years. Dodge is making some good quality vehicles these days. But yeah, I expect the truck to fall apart around the engine 'cause this one's a keeper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    Dodge is making some good quality vehicles these days.
    Well, we bought a 2000 Dodge Dakota 4x4 crew cab with the 4.6 liter V8 and a 2000 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4x4 king cab at the same time. The Dodge we bought for our family vehicle and the Toyota we bought as my business truck. The Toy now has about 65K on it and has been treated like a truck. It pulls a trailer on long trips in the mountains, often at its max towing capacity, is very often heavily loaded for around town stuff, and is generally used & abused. It's never had a problem and will get 24mpg at 75 when it's empty. The Dodge on the other hand had about 50K on it and it has been a complete POS with one problem after another. The nice thing about the Dodge is that had the four doors and a roomy cab + it drove and rode like a car, but even my wife prefered to drive the Tacoma. We got rid of the Dodge last month. We're replacing it with a 2005 long bed 4dr Tacoma.

    My Dad had a '99 Dodge Cummins 4X. He too loved the motor (having driven it numerous times, I agree that it's an amazing powerplant), but the truck was a total POS. He replaced it with a Ford Powerstroke and he's had some minor problems with that too. Can't get him to buy a "foreign car" even though the Toyotas are made in Ohio and the Dodges are made in Mexico. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    Neither... Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel!

    Not sure what your budget is, but if you're getting a 4x4 with 4 liter engine and a standard array of options, I think those get up there in the same price range as a diesel truck (with some good research and negotiating).
    Dodges are fine if you are just going to use them as a second car but as soon as you expect them to do any kind of work they fall apart around the engine... the cummins deisel is the only part of the truck with any kind of durability

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    Frontier with 6ft bed.

    I had this truck for 2 years it hauled everthing ok. I now have a Titan. If Toyota made the Tacoma with a 6ft bed I bet they would have one helluva truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRSguy
    Dodges are fine if you are just going to use them as a second car but as soon as you expect them to do any kind of work they fall apart around the engine... the cummins deisel is the only part of the truck with any kind of durability
    Well, so far, my '03 with ~30K on it has been great. It's my second Dodge CTD and if I ever need another truck, I'll look there first. To be fair, if the "foreign car" makers come out with a diesel pickup (full size), I'll compare them if/when I'm truck shopping again. For example, I like the looks of the Titan. If they put a diesel in it, it'll be a killer truck. Well, if they make it in a heavy duty version (3/4 or 1 ton), anyway. I figure if I'm getting a truck, I'm getting one I can use for anything!

    Oh, found a better bike picture. I had taken all the crap out of the truck and disconnected the trailer, but the bikes are still there from my recent move:
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    I was really lucky on my 03 Tacoma. I bought it late 2004 so with rebates, I got it for a grand under dealer cost. Amazing because at the time, I could hardly find a used one for a good price. The resale on these things is silly but that's cool with me. Like the others said, if you want to seat more than two people, you should probably look at the 4 door model. With the bed extender (invented by Horst Leitner of Amp Research and Horst link fame), it should be plenty of room. The new trucks are more powerful but I prefer a more truck like appearance with steel bumpers.

    For hauling my bike, I just toss it in the bed. I have a 2 bike hitch rack for when I have company. The hitch rack leaves plenty of room in the bed for gear.

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    The fender wells ..bug

    The rest of the trucks looks great..

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    i did the whole tacoma vs. frontier, 4runner vs. pathfinder thing a month ago. my personal experience with nissan has been good, so after comparing prices, it was a no brainer for me, go nissan. thousands cheaper in the used market. sometimes close to 3 or 4 thousand difference for comparably equipped models.

    eventually, since i already owned a 99 tahoe, i said the hell with another car payment, and scored a 95 dodge caravan for cash. the minivan has been trouble free, and definitely holds a car seat. the ladies love it, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    Well, so far, my '03 with ~30K on it has been great. It's my second Dodge CTD and if I ever need another truck, I'll look there first. To be fair, if the "foreign car" makers come out with a diesel pickup (full size), I'll compare them if/when I'm truck shopping again. For example, I like the looks of the Titan. If they put a diesel in it, it'll be a killer truck. Well, if they make it in a heavy duty version (3/4 or 1 ton), anyway. I figure if I'm getting a truck, I'm getting one I can use for anything!

    Oh, found a better bike picture. I had taken all the crap out of the truck and disconnected the trailer, but the bikes are still there from my recent move:
    we have 3 dodge work trucks all had the same problems and so far all had to have the trans and rears rebuilt more than once and for the record all have been used well within rated load and towing capacities. We made the mistake of putting a snowplow on one of the trucks and the first time out plowing with it the wiper motor packed full of snow and burned the motor up... never had that happen with any truck before. we also have an F450 with a dump body does everything the Dodges do and only ever had minor problems with it

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    Yeah, mine's not "rated" for a snowplow. Has to do with front axle capacity... and Dodge covering their butts on possible warranty claims. Lots of guys put them on, but it'll void the warranty, so I'll wait on that, too. Interesting to hear that the powder hams the motor wiper... I'll remember that one!!

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    i have a tacoma with 100,000 miles on it and its still runs good. a few rattles here and there. awesome roadtrip vehicle too.
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    05 Frontier..no long bed option.

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    if you're looking at new you might want to take a look at the gmc canyon. looks to be smaller sized. i would prefer a new toyota but don't want to take a serious step up in exterior dimensions. available in long bed. gets reasonable gas mileage. priced around 22000 on the sale ads i've seen. i'm not a nissan fan if you're looking to keep for a long time.

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    I had a 2001 Ford Sport Trac and trading it in for a 2005 one. I haven't had to do anything to it over the last 120k. The only thing that got me was with the tan interior the steering wheel is tan and looks dirty after a couple good rides. The vinyl floor is nice and easy to clean and even though the bed is short it still fits bikes fine with the tail gate down. I put trays on the roof rack and mostly used the bed for gear. My avg mpg was 18.

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    Here's my Taco set-up

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvo
    I'm looking for a replacement truck to be my new (used) trail head vehicle. I have narrowed it to the Tacoma and the Frontier. I have a new baby so the 4 door versions look more appealing, but I like having the full length bed to camp in. I have seen a 4 door Frontier with the longer bed but they are hard to find used. Will the extended cab Toy fit a rear (or forward) facing baby seat? Please post some pics of your Tacos / Frontiers with your bike hauling setup with your comments or reccommendations please.

    Thanks
    It's a 2000 and it's been good and bad. All the bearings in the transmission had to be replaced at 16K. Ever since then, I haven't had any problems. A short adult will fit in the extended cab and long trips aren't impossible if they have that whole portion of the cab to themselves but it isn't the best. The extra cab is very difficult to access and a 3rd door would have been a nice feature. I wouldn't even consider putting a child seat back there. I've seen a number of quality control issues discussed about the '05 Taco on Edmunds.com. Stuff about the windshield leaking and stuff.....not good. I'd likely replace mine with the 4 door model someday but not until after the first 2-3 model years are over. The seats in the Tacoma are notoriously uncomfortable. I was so sore after a roadtrip to Bend, OR that I bought a Recaro the day after returning. Wedge Engineering makes an adapter bracket. The seat is great but makes access to the back even worse.
    Nissan definitely has more quality issues than Toyota and IMO, their styling gets dated quickly. It'll be interesting to see how the Ridgeline does in sales. It's pretty ugly but a great concept if you don't need the full capability of a big truck. I might be swayed that direction if the general population agrees with me on the styling and they end up piling up at the dealer making the price go way down. Still, I'll wait a few years to make sure the bugs are out.
    My bike set-up is custom built by me. Boeing Surplus, a full machine shop and some parts from Yakima and Fiamma made it possible. It works great but as the price of my bikes has increased, I keep them in the back for extended highway driving and only use the rack for local trips.
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    do you have any close up pics of your rack set up, without the bike on it? i'd like to try a set up similar to yours, and have access to a full machine shop, also.
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    Had no problems putting a baby seat in my old ~98 Taco Xtra cab. However, my boy was just a baby then and I usually didn't have anyone else in the truck, so I could move the seat up so he wouldn't get 'em dirty with his shoes... I did have to drill a mounting hole in the floor for the kid seat rear-tie down... newer models probably have mount points tho.

    Toyotas run great btw, I've owned 3 and never had any mechanical problems with any of em. Just kept on the regular maintenance schedule for oil changes and whatnot.
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    Taco, Excelent vehicles.

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    Been too busy and the weather in Seattle has been stellar.....we don't have any water but it's been great riding weather.
    Next time I'm out and if I can remember to get the memory stick outta my computer, I'll snap some shots for you. With the latest design, no real heavy duty machining is necessary. Just have to cut the angle aluminum channel and drill holes in it and the backing plate which can be done with a hand drill and a centerpunch.
    The toughest part is adding the bar to the roof of the cab. I had to custom fab mine. Some canopies/toppers come with some that would probably work.

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    both are great

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvo
    I'm looking for a replacement truck to be my new (used) trail head vehicle. I have narrowed it to the Tacoma and the Frontier. I have a new baby so the 4 door versions look more appealing, but I like having the full length bed to camp in. I have seen a 4 door Frontier with the longer bed but they are hard to find used. Will the extended cab Toy fit a rear (or forward) facing baby seat? Please post some pics of your Tacos / Frontiers with your bike hauling setup with your comments or reccommendations please.

    Thanks
    i have a '04 Nissan Titan KC 4wd and and older '86 Nissan KingCab mini-truck 4wd... my 17 year old, 5''9" 145#, can fit the the back of the older Nissan pu. We really like having a full 6.5" bed, them four-door trucks only have about 5' bed (i call them "half-trucks"). With upto two young childdren I'd get a larger rear bed...now If I was blssed with two adult childen i'd be looking at the crew cab.

    Either a Fronty or a Taco will serve you well.

    I'm a Nissan fan 'cause I think they add some small details to trucks that makes 'em a wee bit more useful, but them Toyota PUs are fantastic as well...great to have these choices. my old reliable Nissan has 236,000 miles!

    You know: a Nissan dudes are tougher than Toyo dudes, but Toyo dudes tend to be more ...ehhh...refined.... ya that's it.

    of course that's just complete bull, but hey i'm trollin' a bit.
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    Toy no doubt

    I agree that both will serve you well, but if you have any intention of keeping your truck for a long time, and especially if you plan on any mods, get the Toyota.

    The aftermarket for Toyota is way better and less expensive than for Nissans.

    I also think that Toyotas feel more finished. Nissan trucks have the interior quality of an early Dodge Neon.

    I am biased, as my 1994 has 154k trouble free miles. 1 clutch, 1 set of starter contacts. I set of timing chain guides, two sets of brake pads, one set of front rotors. Less than $800 of repairs in 11 years. Ok, there may be $2k worth of gears and lockers in there as well, but those were elective.

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    how many miles do your guys' tacomas have on them?
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