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    Now I'm really not sure...The BMW....

    135i or the 328i with the sport package. The cost is about the same. The 3 will not be quite as quick as the 1, but from what I read the 3 handles better and of course has more room. I'm now leaning towards the 328
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    Which 328? I vote for the 328 wagon for no other reason other than I like the convenience of a wagon. The 328 is one of the nicer looking ones too.
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    135, faster and lighter. i doubt the 3 series handles better but i'm sure in comparison it will be less twitchy since it has a longer wheelbase. I like twitchy cars though and due to the fact that it weighs less I'm guessing i'm going to like the handling. the 3 series will be more practical, the 1 series will be more fun.
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    Check the actual weights of each. I heard that the 1 series was disappointingly heavy. I vote for the 3 series, unless you are going to the track with it.
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    yeah the weight difference between the 1 and the 3 is a bit disappointing. I was hoping the 1 series would go on a diet to come closer to the e36 platforms. I would be interested to see a true heads up comparo as far as handling goes. And at least there is an alternative to the bloated 3 series.

    For me it would be a simple decision, the best performance per dollar is hands down the 135 compared to the 328. Im not all about pure hp(of all the cars i owned my 95 miata was my favorite to drive... 04 sti a distant second) but as a daily driver I feel you get alot more opportunities to enjoy hp over handing ability. So to me even if the 3 would handle a bit better than the 1 you can enjoy the extra hp alot more often.

    The 3 series may have more interior room than the 1(cant find exactly how much) but in my experience(ive owned 8 cars/trucks in 9 years) a coupe is a coupe. As long as you feel comfortable in the cockpit and the seats fold down, the cargo capacity numbers dont have much significance(within reason of course). Evidence being the fact I have been able to fit 2 mtn bikes(w front wheel removed) in a 02 gti, 01 civic, 97 integra, among other things.

    I would like to see more on the handling comparison though. do you have links??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_C

    I would like to see more on the handling comparison though. do you have links??

    Sorry no links, but in the Jan issue of Car and Driver there is a shoot out with the 328 and toward the back there is a quick review of the 135. It is here that they state the 135 has more understeer.

    Mikey_C is right about more Hp and zip for the daily driver.....
    And several got it right about the weight, there is only 200 lbs diff in the 2 cars

    Perhaps it will come down to availability..... 1 series maybe hard to get for a while. It may also improve 3 series sales as well by bringing guys like me into the show room looking for a 1 series and driving out with a 3 series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_C
    yeah the weight difference between the 1 and the 3 is a bit disappointing. I was hoping the 1 series would go on a diet to come closer to the e36 platforms. I would be interested to see a true heads up comparo as far as handling goes. And at least there is an alternative to the bloated 3 series.

    For me it would be a simple decision, the best performance per dollar is hands down the 135 compared to the 328. Im not all about pure hp(of all the cars i owned my 95 miata was my favorite to drive... 04 sti a distant second) but as a daily driver I feel you get alot more opportunities to enjoy hp over handing ability. So to me even if the 3 would handle a bit better than the 1 you can enjoy the extra hp alot more often.

    The 3 series may have more interior room than the 1(cant find exactly how much) but in my experience(ive owned 8 cars/trucks in 9 years) a coupe is a coupe. As long as you feel comfortable in the cockpit and the seats fold down, the cargo capacity numbers dont have much significance(within reason of course). Evidence being the fact I have been able to fit 2 mtn bikes(w front wheel removed) in a 02 gti, 01 civic, 97 integra, among other things.

    I would like to see more on the handling comparison though. do you have links??

    my 2 cent(sorry with the riding season coming to a close i am a bit bored these days)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flytime
    Sorry no links, but in the Jan issue of Car and Driver there is a shoot out with the 328 and toward the back there is a quick review of the 135. It is here that they state the 135 has more understeer.
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    135i for sure. For a similarly equipped 3 series you're going to pay 10K more and gain what? I bit more room...... and? I think it's cool they're offering the 300 horse 3.5 engine in the One series. Cool car. I don't see the resemblance to the 2002 that much though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_sur
    sway bars don't cost that much.
    sway bars themselves don't cost much, but unfortunately they've made it very hard to upgrade them as part of the subframe needs to be removed to get to it. Probably 2-3 hrs labor versus like 20mins for a car like the G35. This could be different on the 1 vs the 3, but it's something to consider. If I new the 135 was coming out I probably would have gotten that, maybe when my lease is up I'll buy a used one-

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    Quote Originally Posted by mopartodd
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    hah- according to this report we should all be driving Toyota Camrys and Honda Accords. I prefer a more connected experience in my cars but I cant argue that they are probably the most problem free. This being my first bmw, I don't know what it's reliability long term is, but in the couple months i've owned it has been one of the most reliable and satisfying vehicles I've ever owned. Before this I was a strictly Japanese (nissan/infiniti) owner. As far as owning outside the free maintenance period of 4 years, I probably would not as they are ridiculously expensive to maintain even when using independent mechanics-

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    completely agree - I would rather put up with a tempremental or somewhat unreliable vehicle with some character that is fun to drive...I'll get an accord or camry when I am 90 thank you very little........

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks
    completely agree - I would rather put up with a tempremental or somewhat unreliable vehicle with some character that is fun to drive...I'll get an accord or camry when I am 90 thank you very little........
    Then you've got the right car.
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    I personally tend to avoid first year models, like the 1 series. Let them see what happens when they have been on the road for 20-30K miles before you jump in. The 3 series has made the car & driver 10 best list for more years than any other car on the market. You can't go wrong with a 3 series wagon for comfort, style, sportiness, and space. The 3 series sedans are great looking cars too....but if you are into bikes, the wagon will haul more.

    FWIW, I had a 740 for about 4 years. It wasn't the most reliable car I ever drove, but I will say it was the EASIEST to work on of any car I have ever owned. BMW engineers do an excellent job of making the cars easy to service. In the 4 years I owned the car, I paid about 1000 bucks in unexpected repairs. Much of that was from me foolishly degreasing the engine with my hot water hose and fouling my ignition coils.....my point is don't worry about reliability. The 740 was as reliable as any Ford, GM, Chrysler car I have ever owned.

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