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    New Honda Truck!

    just saw a pic of the new honda pickup truck (ridgeline, i think)...looks nice and has the same motor v-6 motor in the odyssey (which i like, we have one)....i like seeing new stuff, about time honda made a truck, wonder how much they will cost...
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    I dare you to post that here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Managuense
    I dare you to post that here:

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    i don't go there!
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    That only looks like a truck. Trucks are never unibody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat
    That only looks like a truck. Trucks are never unibody.
    it says unit-body, not unibody...whats the difference as i have no clue, does look like the avalanche...i certainly won't be buying one, will be out of my price range but i bet it will sell very well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    it says unit-body, not unibody...whats the difference as i have no clue, does look like the avalanche...i certainly won't be buying one, will be out of my price range but i bet it will sell very well..
    unit body and unibody are the exact same thing .

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    Go buy a new xterra instead. Due to come out next month. I am waiting on one myself. That vehicle is a TRUE truck. No unibody crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbcyclist
    Go buy a new xterra instead. Due to come out next month. I am waiting on one myself. That vehicle is a TRUE truck. No unibody crap.
    Xterra Frontier or Sport Trac would all be better choices

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    man you got my hopes up i thought it was going to be a real pick up.

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    sorry, didn't know much about it, maybe they will make a real truck soon....
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    Trendy Truck...

    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    sorry, didn't know much about it, maybe they will make a real truck soon....
    My wife drives an Odyssey (snappy motor I'l agree) and my ears did perk up when I heard Honda was coming out with a truck. One look at a picture of that thing and I can see I got no use for it. The bed is so short that the tailgait probably has to be down to fit bikes in and I have no use for a 4 door...I was hoping for something more like a Tundra or maybe smaller like a Tacoma/Fronteer size.

    I have an 00 Dakota that I'l be replacing later this year. I'l probably get another Dakota as I had good luck with this one and you can get an 05 with a V8....I ain't had one of those since the 70s...I'm due!

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    how much

    Quote Originally Posted by Managuense
    I dare you to post that here:

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    This truck, while kind of weird looking is pretty sweet actually. If you need a "TRUCKtruck" for the job site, this is not it, but if you need the utility of a bed, but don't carry super big loads (ie a couple of bikes, and a few tents maybe) this is pretty cool. There is also a trunk in the bed as well. I saw it at the Detroit Auto show, and the way the trunk works is pretty sweet, and very practical, it is beneath the bed of the truck, so you don't sacrifice any space, and they made the tailgate open 2 ways (like a normal tailgate, and like a door) for easy access to the trunk, or for the utility of a tailgate.. All in all, a pretty cool truck. I mean I still want a real truck like the Nissan Titan, but a good try for a new product line from Honda.

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    "...all while achieving an estimated EPA mileage rating of 16 city/21 hwy mpg"

    hooray!

    it's 2005, Honda. Time to put your proven hybrid technology into your bigger cars & trucks. Chevy is adding kinda-hybrid tech. to their lg. trucks to at least kill the engine while sitting in the drive-thru. I expect more from them. The mpg on the cool Element also sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    "...all while achieving an estimated EPA mileage rating of 16 city/21 hwy mpg"

    hooray!

    it's 2005, Honda. Time to put your proven hybrid technology into your bigger cars & trucks. Chevy is adding kinda-hybrid tech. to their lg. trucks to at least kill the engine while sitting in the drive-thru. I expect more from them. The mpg on the cool Element also sucks.

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    i agree, i just bought a new (used) car recently and was apalled at the gas mileage on 4 cylinder vehicles, mainly wagons, like a vw passat getting 20 mpg in the city, thought the element was cool but about the same, blows me away how bad it is...ended up with a subaru outback and its 4 cyl gets only 23 or so...how come gas mileage is worse in newer vehicles? my old honda civic wagon got 35 +, my vw golf (85) got 30-35 and my 94 legacy wagon got near 30...frustrating to say the least...
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    Cars tend to be much more powerful, a lot bigger (and consequently more crashworthy) and have more ammenities these days. All this power, luxury, and mass costs mileage.

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    I'm sure it is a very nice vehicle....but boy that looks like crap. My better half and I are planning to get a truck in the near future for truck stuff, towing a horse trailer mainly, and her daily driver. She's owned a 95 GMC, and that thing blew ass. I look at the new US trucks and they look like they are still built the same way and cost a friggen fortune.....well GM is having a hard time giving them away. The Titan and Tundra, though a little smaller and down on power on certain US trucks, are looking really good to us. I was excited when I heard that Honda was getting into the market, but this is off the mark. They should have asked Subaru how many Baja's they sold. billybob, your Suby and the Passat probably have double the HP of your old Vdub and Civic. More power less milage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg
    I'm sure it is a very nice vehicle....but boy that looks like crap. My better half and I are planning to get a truck in the near future for truck stuff, towing a horse trailer mainly, and her daily driver. She's owned a 95 GMC, and that thing blew ass. I look at the new US trucks and they look like they are still built the same way and cost a friggen fortune.....well GM is having a hard time giving them away. The Titan and Tundra, though a little smaller and down on power on certain US trucks, are looking really good to us. I was excited when I heard that Honda was getting into the market, but this is off the mark. They should have asked Subaru how many Baja's they sold. billybob, your Suby and the Passat probably have double the HP of your old Vdub and Civic. More power less milage.
    i dont know my old golf was the fastest of the bunch!!
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    It probably weighed half as much too
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    Whatever that thing is, it's not a truck. Just what everybody needs, a "truck" where you can't even throw a bike, pair of skis, or sheet of plywood in the bed without it hanging out.
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    I can't believe nobody posted pix yet!

    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    just saw a pic of the new honda pickup truck (ridgeline, i think)...looks nice and has the same motor v-6 motor in the odyssey (which i like, we have one)....i like seeing new stuff, about time honda made a truck, wonder how much they will cost...
    so here they are:

    <img src=https://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/513/234070main.jpg>

    <img src=https://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/515/234070main-1.jpg>

    <img src=https://images.forbes.com/images/2004/11/16/vow_420x279.jpg>

    dang you guys are lazy!
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    For more info, see:

    http://automobiles.honda.com/new_mod...rDetected=True

    Actually, the body is a hybrid. A unibody cab welded to a highly modified ladder underframe. There is a pic of it off the link above. Personally, I'll withhold judgement on looks until I see it in person . . . pics seldom do justice to vehicles. Regardless of looks, I think it would be an awesome shuttle vehicle (4-5 bikes in box, 4-5 riders in cab, gear in "trunk"). Not to mention, Honda will probably sell every one of them it can produce. Honda does its homework and seldom screws up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat
    That only looks like a truck. Trucks are never unibody.
    It has a unibody on top of a close fit frame. I dunno why more trucks aren't made uni-body anyway. I would think they could be stronger, safer and lighter if designed properly.

    http://automobiles.honda.com/new_mod...on=engineering

    Looks pretty well thougth out to me. I also like the independent suspension. Live axle should have gone away a long time ago.

    I agree with one point, tho... Not enough bed length.

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    True dat

    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    i agree, i just bought a new (used) car recently and was apalled at the gas mileage on 4 cylinder vehicles, mainly wagons, like a vw passat getting 20 mpg in the city, thought the element was cool but about the same, blows me away how bad it is...ended up with a subaru outback and its 4 cyl gets only 23 or so...how come gas mileage is worse in newer vehicles? my old honda civic wagon got 35 +, my vw golf (85) got 30-35 and my 94 legacy wagon got near 30...frustrating to say the least...
    we just got a 97 Jetta GLX with the 2.8 liter V6, and we are actually getting better mileage than the EPA estimate on the highway, 29 MPG.... as long as we stay on the highway. When we drop onto the streets, mileage drops to around 21-22 mpg.

    Cars are getting heavier, bigger and still have an emphasis on Horsepower. People still compare HP numbers, eventhough it does not mean that it will perform well. Wasn't it the escalade that pout out like 450 HP or something crazy like that? I think people are getting lazy, and shopping for cars using information rather than actually trying driving the cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    It has a unibody on top of a close fit frame. I dunno why more trucks aren't made uni-body anyway. I would think they could be stronger, safer and lighter if designed properly.

    http://automobiles.honda.com/new_mod...on=engineering

    Looks pretty well thougth out to me. I also like the independent suspension. Live axle should have gone away a long time ago.

    I agree with one point, tho... Not enough bed length.
    Unibody is the LAST thing you would ever want a truck to be built on it would be neither strong or safe.Unibody doesnt allow for chassis flex which is necesary for any type of hauling or long term use over uneven terrain and even with subframe connectors it would eventually crack.
    Unibody is fine for a "closed" chassis like a car or SUV but for a truck it just wouldnt be durable enough for real world use

    and you're wrong about independant suspension being better than live axle. while it might be better for most onroad application it is extremely weak compared to the solid axle set ups found in most trucks and with a proper suspension they can articulate every bit as good as independant... which is why most serious off roaders convert their IFS trucks to solid axle for trailrunning and rockcrawling

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    Quote Originally Posted by NRSguy

    ... and you're wrong about independant suspension being better than live axle. while it might be better for most onroad application it is extremely weak compared to the solid axle set ups found in most trucks...
    That's why those mil hum vees use live axle, eh?

    Oh wait, they don't. They have independent suspension all around.

    This is obviously not meant for the Moab Jeep trail crowd. It's a street truck. If the majority of it's life is spent on the street, wouldn't it be best if it were set up to handle best on the street, but still be able to deal with the occasional fire road up to a construction site? I don't think that makes it any less of a usable truck.

    I spend a lot of my time in live axle pickups for work, and I tell you what. Those things are squirelly as heck when the road gets at all rough. I can feel the back end wandering all around from the wheels bouncing up and down over potholes that my GTi handles with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    That's why those mil hum vees use live axle, eh?

    Oh wait, they don't. They have independent suspension all around.
    So why do pickups use split cab/beds? I'm guessing it's because you can easily put any number of different beds (SRW, DRW, or an aftermarket work truck thing with cabinets and a bucket), or none at all for chassis cabs. I do know that they twist an awful lot, though.

    About the Ridgeline...that thing looks horrid, IMO. Reminds me of various early '90's concept trucks.

    BTW, pimpbot, that last picture is of the prototype version.

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    1) The Titan is not short on power compared to anything in its class
    2) Probably 65% of people buying pickups don't put it through heavy duty use. They only need something they can throw a bike or some skis or some junk from Home Depot in.

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    Sport Trucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    so here they are:

    <img src=https://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/515/234070main-1.jpg>

    !

    Are thos XR-100's? Just kidding, that bed is small, but as a Nissan Frontier driver I can say that if you're just a Home Depot kind of guy it's not that bad having a small bed. Personally, I got my truck w/ the shorter bed because I didn't want to sacrifice the garage space and I don't need to haul much. The short bed has enough room for my bikes and I can even fit my sportbike in there for trackdays.

    Either way, I'm sure it will be over priced as most Hondas tend to be. I know that Honda had legendary relieabiltiy, but how many people that buy these kinds of cars keep them past their 2-3 year lease period anyway? For most people it only needs to be reliable enough to get them to the next trendy hot-ticket!

    As for the current trend of "sport tucks" like the Avalanche, I have yet to see an Avalanche converted to "pick-up" to do what they say it can. Most guys that haul heavy duty loads know what their doing when they buy a truck..... they buy a truck. Speaking of short beds, how 'bout Hummer chopping the roof on the H2 and call it a "sport utility TRUCK"?!?! There's about enough room in there for an ice-chest. But then again, how many of those trucks do you see either off road, or in the "contractor's line" at Home Depot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C3_43
    Either way, I'm sure it will be over priced as most Hondas tend to be. I know that Honda had legendary relieabiltiy, but how many people that buy these kinds of cars keep them past their 2-3 year lease period anyway?
    I know plenty of people, including several in my family who have owned Hondas for the long haul. That's why you buy a Honda or Toyota, because they last a very long time and if you do decide to sell, they retain a strong resale value.

    I don't agree about them being overpriced. When I was looking at a new car, I was looking at 4wd wagons and "crossover" vehicles such as the CR-V, Element, Subaru Legacy, Outback, and Forester, Toyota RAV-4 and Highlander, Ford Escape, Hyundia Santa Fe, and something by Mitzubishi (I may be confusing this with the Highlander). The CR-V was one of cheapest (if not THE cheapest) of these. It cost about the same as a Legacy L wagon. This was over a year ago, so maybe things have changed.

    That said, I'm not going to get excited about this truck just yet. Honda has not yet made anything I would consider close a real truck. I consider my CR-V a big station wagon with 4wd and some extra clearance. Even the Pilot seemes like a very big car but not a real truck. Then again, I agree with the guy who said that Honda has seldom screwed up a vehicle (the Passport being a painful exception).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    That's why those mil hum vees use live axle, eh?

    I spend a lot of my time in live axle pickups for work, and I tell you what. Those things are squirelly as heck when the road gets at all rough. I can feel the back end wandering all around from the wheels bouncing up and down over potholes that my GTi handles with ease.
    The real Hummers were purpose built for the utility needs of the military, they weren't intended for civilian use till Desert Storm and Arnold buying a few. Have you ever ridden in one? Makes any truck on the road these days Cadddy plush. Yes they have lots of travel, short overhangs and amazing off road ability, but the ride is TERRIBLE. It's rough, noisy an incredibly cramped because all the driveline is housed in the cab between the frame rails. The engine sits under the ridiculously large center console between the driver and passenger.

    That being said, some rigid axle vehicles ride very nice. Jeeps previous Grand Cherokee (WJ) and the last rigid axle Toyota Land Cruiser (FJ-80 I think) were great off road and have fantastic pavement manners. Full size truicks typically use leaf springs to suspend the rear which is pretty rough. The Jeep uses coils along with four link setup up front and a five link setup in the rear. It was designed to have great road manners and it does. Its also Rubiconn capable, so it can handle the dirt.

    The downside of this is a big sacriffice in load carrying capability, leaf spring are very progressive and get even stiffer when weighted. If you're in a truck with an empty bed its manners are schitzo. Its all a trade off. Personally I wish someone would build a truck with suspension like the Grand for those that don't need to haul tons off stuff but still can do the job off road. I say that because I like my 04 Grand and the way it just motors through the mud and snow, but I hate vaccuming out the rear after the muddy bikes have been in there.

    Instead we get stuff like the Honda or the IFS front/solid rear. Honda will sell a ton because most that buy trucks only use them as grocery getters. Its basically an SUV you can get messy and easily clean. You just won'tt be able tto haul a big boat or a horse trailer, but for a few bikes or motorcycles or camping gear it'll do just fine. And that's exactly where its gonna be marketed.

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    Either way, I'm sure it will be over priced as most Hondas tend to be.

    i also think you are mis-informed on this as well...we just got a 05 odyssey that was at least 7k less than a comparatively equipped sienna...i was pissed at toyota for wanting us to pay extra (lots) for safety features like side curtain air bags as i feel safety should be standard (was on the honda)...know 3 people who just got CRV's as well because their price is the best out there...the element is also affordable when compared to other things out there... we plan on keeping our odyssey for a long time, but if not its nice to know it won't depreciate like many other vehicles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    The mpg on the cool Element also sucks.

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    ...but pretty good considering the Element has all the aerodynamics of a shoebox....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    That's why those mil hum vees use live axle, eh?

    Oh wait, they don't. They have independent suspension all around.
    that's because it is built for the military- they don't care about spending $$. besides, it is just testing for their consumer models which never see anything 'cept a car wash and the gas pumps. they should all be blown off our planet- folks get tax breaks for a useless "car" that weighs 8,000 pounds and gets 11 MPG. great idea. everyone needs an H2. and anyone who rides a bike on the road can tell you they are horriffic.

    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    I spend a lot of my time in live axle pickups for work, and I tell you what. Those things are squirelly as heck when the road gets at all rough. I can feel the back end wandering all around from the wheels bouncing up and down over potholes that my GTi handles with ease.
    you contradict yourself: you are driving a WORK truck on the ROAD. drive a Ford Exploder off road, with a load and a trailer and you will find out how incapable they really are for that application. too bad 99% of buyers "need" their SUVs for driving around town and to the fast food drive through. SUV's are no longer trucks- just sporty station wagons. god forbid anyone should call the new Dodge Magum a semi-useless "staion wagon!" i can hear ego's deflating everywhere...

    i feel a little better now. but think about this: we are invading oil rich countries on the basis of terrorism so we can drive bigger and less economical vehicles that we truly don't "need." oh, sure, our ego's want 'em. but get real. stop driving so much and ride your bikes more!
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    i feel a little better now. but think about this: we are invading oil rich countries on the basis of terrorism so we can drive bigger and less economical vehicles that we truly don't "need." oh, sure, our ego's want 'em. but get real. stop driving so much and ride your bikes more! [/QUOTE]

    don't put all of us in that we category...personally i am disgusted on how inefficient cars are today. with all the technology you would think it would get better not worse (i personally dont care about hp, just want to get from one place to another, but in a safe car, i have kids to think about)...cant wait for the bio diesel thing to catch on and hopefully in a few years the hybrid will be the norm...
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    understood

    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    i feel a little better now. but think about this: we are invading oil rich countries on the basis of terrorism so we can drive bigger and less economical vehicles that we truly don't "need." oh, sure, our ego's want 'em. but get real. stop driving so much and ride your bikes more!
    don't put all of us in that we category...personally i am disgusted on how inefficient cars are today. with all the technology you would think it would get better not worse (i personally dont care about hp, just want to get from one place to another, but in a safe car, i have kids to think about)...cant wait for the bio diesel thing to catch on and hopefully in a few years the hybrid will be the norm...[/QUOTE]hey billybobzia- i wasn't including "everyone" in my rant- just those who are living this "American Dream."

    it is so true that with all this technology, we can't get better MPH while being safe and comfy. but Chevy can make a 500HP Corvette...
    marketing and big $$ rules over our environment and health. we will always be the unfortunate minority. shame.
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    My bad

    Quote Originally Posted by billybobzia
    Either way, I'm sure it will be over priced as most Hondas tend to be.

    i also think you are mis-informed on this as well...
    Perhaps I am mis-informed on current pricing trends. I just remember a sizeable difference between my wife's car, Isuzu Rodeo, vs. the exact same Honda Passport. Several thousand dollars difference just for the name. Maybe it's different now. I know that their lower end cars are fairly cheap.... I know the Civics are cheap, otherwise not every teenager in town would have one.

    I know that some people keep their Honda's forever. When I said "but how many people that buy these kinds of cars keep them past their 2-3 year lease period anyway?" I was referring to "trendy" cars such as this Honda P/U is bound to be. When I say "trendy" I refer to niche cars like H2's, Scion box-cars, Avaclanche, and other non-standard vehicles, IE, not sedan, coupe, p/u.

    I did not mean to upset anyone that has, and loves, a Honda. I would probably get one if they made something I liked in a price that I could afford, but they don't.... yet.

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    i don't think you upset anyone...i know the odysseys came down in price this year because the sienna was winning in the minivan category....its my wifes and i am still waiting (getting impatient) for someone to make a hybrid wagon...the options are so limited in that category....
    BBZ

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