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    HIGHROLLER: redesigned Yakima Cobra / Red Knob...

    [Cross-posted from a <a href="https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=1244218#post1244218">car rack discussion in the Turner forum</a>.]

    Re: Yakima's redesign to their Cobra upright mount rack and the pesky Red Knob. (There was some info I received a few weeks back that the Red Knob was being redesigned.)

    The Cobra's replacement rack, called the <b>Yakima Highroller</b>, was introduced at Outdoor Retailer 2005 this past August in Salt Lake City, and made a follow-up appearance at Interbike last week. I'm surprised there is almost nothing written about it on the web.

    The new Highroller is very much in the mold of the Cobra & King Cobra racks, with some very noteworthy improvements.

    First off, the infamous <font color="red"><b>Red Knob</b></font> is history. The replacement design uses a different red knob (I'll leave that in lower case since it hasn't gained any notoriety just yet) which presses a "wedge" against the back side of the front tire (in the 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock position) to force it into the forward wheel hoop.

    What's cool is that the <b>new red knob</b> will only take a couple of twists to secure into position. Cooler yet is the <b>Single Button Release</b> that will pop it open in an instant.

    Gone are the two red latches on either side of the forward hoop to select wheel diameter. In their place is a single, spring loaded <b>push-button trigger</b> which, despite what is shown in the image below, I've been assured is indexed to the common 24" / 26" / 700c / 29" wheel sizes.

    The Rattler rear-wheel hold-down strap has been replaced. Based on the most current diagrams, the Yak rep believes the new strap is similar to the dual-sided ratchet mechanism found on the newest Yak BOA. I'm holding out hope, however, that the <b>single-sided cam / ratchet strap</b> shown in the image is what we'll see on the production model, because Yakima's plastic ratchets can be difficult to release when they're cranked tight, and the cam lever would be a welcome addition.

    Like the King Cobra, the back side front wheel hoop will feature a short cable to secure around the bike's downtube, locking with an SKS lock core.

    Lastly, all the new Yakima racks will feature an <b>automotive finish</b>, to better complement the vehicles these racks are being attached to. The rep was uncertain as to whether we'll see paint or powercoat or anodization (or some combination thereof), so that'll be a mystery until some later date.

    MSRP is near $160, and the design is still being finalized (as pictured below is definitely an early design). Availability is Spring of 2006.

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    Figures - two months after I spring for a King Cobra they put out a redesign.

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    eh, its all good. your king cobra (or mine) isn't going to suddenly stop transporting your bike just because there's a new model

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekFan
    eh, its all good. your king cobra (or mine) isn't going to suddenly stop transporting your bike just because there's a new model
    True - I really have started to dislike that red knob, though.

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    There is also the new Thule Side arm see it in the gallery here: http://content.mtbr.com/TRD_12_226crx.aspx
    I have the King Cobra too and yes the red knob is the weak link, but I haven't haad it loosen past a level that's unsafe. If you torque it down hard, it'll eventually make it's way to that same level, but only after a few hours, and how many of your trips last longer than 2 or 3 hours?
    I like the streamlined look of this version though and would be happy to wait given the one or two click and quick release features, since I'm in the market for another. in the meantime though I;d be interested in seeing how bulky and functional the new Thule is.

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    That's essentially a dressed-up Sportworks Factory Bob, and it looks nice.

    I was speaking to a Thule rep at Sea Otter this past April. He hinted at the time that the weak point of the Bob Ratchet roof racks -- which Thule inherited when they purchased Sportworks -- what the oggles of space the pivot took up. On the original Bob Ratchet racks, the pivot actually slid onto and pivoted around your vehicle's crossbar, taking up 8" of space and making the rack quite a space hog (one of the reason's I chose the King Cobra over it).

    The rep mentioned that he saw the Factory Bob continuing into Thule's roof mount lineup, but not the Bob Ratchet. I guess this is their version of it, and from the looks of it they've done a nice job with it. All the same, they haven't addressed the height of the ratchet release lever on the wheel hold-down arm, and for tall vehicles and shorter riders that can be a little bit more of a reach to clear the arm off the tire.

    Now then, what the heck is up with those cross bars in the photo? Those aren't your father's Thule square cross bars!

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    Reviving an old thread...

    I spoke to a Yakima rep at Veloswap today. He confirms that the Highroller is slated for a January 1st release. (I *have* to assume this is 2007 we're talking about.)

    As far as I can tell nothing I posted in the original thread (over 13 months ago) has changed.

    I'm chomping at the bit to get my hands on one of these to replace the King Cobras.

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    hrumpp..

    ...well that explains why I drove all over Austin in March looking for it with no success. All the retail outlets could tell me was either never heard of it or heard of it but we dont have it in stock, and then points me toward king cobra --course that is what I have,

    The king cobra is ok by me.

    I'm not so anxious for a high roller anymore.



    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    Reviving an old thread...

    I spoke to a Yakima rep at Veloswap today. He confirms that the Highroller is slated for a January 1st release. (I *have* to assume this is 2007 we're talking about.)

    As far as I can tell nothing I posted in the original thread (over 13 months ago) has changed.

    I'm chomping at the bit to get my hands on one of these to replace the King Cobras.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    Reviving an old thread...

    I spoke to a Yakima rep at Veloswap today. He confirms that the Highroller is slated for a January 1st release. (I *have* to assume this is 2007 we're talking about.)
    Here's a reply a got from Yak last week. Kind of vague, so maybe you're source is better. I hope...

    "The HighRoller will be released in the spring of 2007. We are currently applying our finishing touches and intend on releasing this product prior to next bike season. Thank you for your patience. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weasel
    Here's a reply a got from Yak last week. Kind of vague, so maybe you're source is better. I hope...

    "The HighRoller will be released in the spring of 2007. We are currently applying our finishing touches and intend on releasing this product prior to next bike season. Thank you for your patience. "
    Quoting ASR, <b>hrumpp..</b>

    Wouldn't be the first time they've given be a bad (er, "<i>optimistic?</i>") date.

    I'll bug 'em again and post their reply here. I'm really looking forward to this thing.
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    Just spoke with Yakima CS; they have no idea where their rep got the Jan one date! Like your email, "spring" is as specific as they'll get.
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    HIGHROLLER Available!

    http://www.rockcreek.com/products/li...RCO_googlebase

    Ordered a few days ago and it even shipped, so must be in stock. Supposed to receive it Mon.

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    Awsome! I just ordered mine from ORS Racks Direct, and used their "Extra 10" coupon over the phone -- that got them down to $129 apiece. They haven't got them in the computer inventory yet, but they are physically in their Vermont warehouse and -- nice for me in California -- shipping is free and no tax!

    Looks like RackAttack and CarPartsPlanet have them, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssorgs
    http://www.rockcreek.com/products/li...RCO_googlebase

    Ordered a few days ago and it even shipped, so must be in stock. Supposed to receive it Mon.
    Yup, told my shop to get on the horn when I saw it on the site last week. I know they will come through at a great price.
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    hope it doesn't break off the tray like my king cobra did... freakin yakima

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkblazer
    hope it doesn't break off the tray like my king cobra did... freakin yakima
    Never heard (or had) that problem, but the Cobra's pesky red knob is done for!
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    Nice rack!

    I have been a Thule guy up to now but I am in the market for two new carriers and the Highroller looks like a great option... One question that must be obvious for some: does the Highroller locks to the crossbars? I'm guessing it does but I just want to make sure before I order them.

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    Sort of! The mounting hardware does not lock, but Yak recommends using the locking cable to lock the rack to your crossbars when the rack is not in use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssorgs
    Sort of! The mounting hardware does not lock, but Yak recommends using the locking cable to lock the rack to your crossbars when the rack is not in use.
    Just remember to use another cable lock to lock the bike and rack to the bars when the bike is on. Kind of a silly design. You can buy so called locks for the snaps around the bars, but they are really a joke and would only take a couple of swipes with a sharp knife to undo.
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    Well, thanks for the info. I think I'll stick with Thule then, I like their one key to lock the bike to the carrier to the roof... It's a shame though since the Highroller is very well designed apart from that and at the price they are selling it, you shouldn't have to buy other accessories IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    does the Highroller locks to the crossbars?
    Yakima sells these accessory locks that thread on to the end of the wheel tray bolt, they "ride up" to cover the nut when the SKS core is turned with a key. Essentially, it hides the nut and makes the bolt shank difficult to get at with a hacksaw.

    Keep in mind, however, that all of these tiny little lock cores (Yak and Thule both) are easily defeated with a flat screwdriver blade coupled with a firm twist. As stated before, locks keep the honest people honest, and are, at best, a "suggestion" not to steal your sh&#105;t!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    Locks keep the honest people honest, and are, at best, a "suggestion" not to steal your ****!
    That, I know! Even locked, I wouldn't leave my car alone with a 5000$ bike on the roof for too long. But I still think it's a bit abusive to sell those little locking things for 25$ CAD each without a SKS lock core for a bike carrier that cost almost 300$ CAD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
    ...I still think it's a bit abusive to sell those little locking things for 25$ CAD each without a SKS lock core for a bike carrier that cost almost 300$ CAD...
    True, dat...

    But considering the stock Yak Cobra INVITES theft -- it comes with a wing nut for the rear of the rail and two screw off plastic "cradles" for the front (essentially oversized wing nuts) -- this little dohickey is worlds better, even if at an added price.

    I'll report in on the Highroller this weekend if it includes any better anti-theft measures, if ssorgs doesn't chime in first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    -- this little dohickey is worlds better, even if at an added price.

    I'll report in on the Highroller this weekend if it includes any better anti-theft measures, if ssorgs doesn't chime in first.
    The major flaw is really the thin piece of plastic bracket holding the rack to the bars. Any cheap serated knife blade quickly bypasses this. Your money and effort are definitely better spent on using a cable lock. Yakima could still improve upon it if they wanted. They just need to find a better mounting mechanism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weasel
    The major flaw is really the thin piece of plastic bracket holding the rack to the bars. Any cheap serated knife blade quickly bypasses this. Your money and effort are definitely better spent on using a cable lock. Yakima could still improve upon it if they wanted. They just need to find a better mounting mechanism.
    Or some kind of metal bracket that covers the mounts and that bracket locks to the bars...

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