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    Ford Fiesta returns!

    I'm crossing my fingers for a kick ass diesel.

    2010 Ford Fiesta

    If the base model can get at least 42 mpg, and fit a bike in back, i'm game!





    That interior is crazy. Reminds me of this. haha

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    If it's 10 times better than the last one, I still wouldn't drive one if it were given to me.

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    I love the way the current fiesta looks, like a tiny focus, and also love the way this fiesta looks, like a tiny mondeo. For such a small car, i would stay away from a diesel, the heavy diesel engine in front will make the ride quite dull unless you're really doing 25000 km per year or more and since you live in the US where diesel is expensive, I'd say only when you're doing 50-60000+ km per year. I hate diesels on cars for making the front so heavy, they are only suitable for SUVs and trucks imo.

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    I assume those are concept car pictures? If so the real thing won't look nearly as "street cool".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble Maker
    If it's 10 times better than the last one, I still wouldn't drive one if it were given to me.
    I'd definitely drive it if somebody gave it to me.
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    I will drive this Fiesta and it doesn't have to be given to me.


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    There are actually very light and powerful car diesel's out bmw has a twin turbo setup, which is all made out of aluminum. Leave it up to BMW, man how I love bmw's.
    Here is some info on it...
    http://wardsauto.com/ar/bmw_diesel_us/

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    How many of you are confusing the fiesta which was sold in 78-80 with the festiva sold in the 90s at least in the US?

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    Is it any different from the FOCUS or just another rename.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    I'd definitely drive it if somebody gave it to me.
    I actually read it as Festiva because I had never heard of the Fiesta before. I hated that car (Festiva). My aunt had one and I drove it a few times. Felt like I was going to die when I went above 25mph. Death traps. The only way I should ever feel endangered by a car is if it's so fast I'm having a hard time keeping my hands on the wheel from the G's.

    Quote Originally Posted by canker
    How many of you are confusing the fiesta which was sold in 78-80 with the festiva sold in the 90s at least in the US?
    Good call. Caught myself before I read this actually.
    Last edited by Trouble Maker; 02-22-2008 at 06:48 AM.

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    Had a 79..

    that i modded and eventually rolled....fun car...the 2010 model looks alot nicer..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dekes
    I love the way the current fiesta looks, like a tiny focus, and also love the way this fiesta looks, like a tiny mondeo. For such a small car, i would stay away from a diesel, the heavy diesel engine in front will make the ride quite dull unless you're really doing 25000 km per year or more and since you live in the US where diesel is expensive, I'd say only when you're doing 50-60000+ km per year. I hate diesels on cars for making the front so heavy, they are only suitable for SUVs and trucks imo.

    Current fiesta??? The smallest vehicle in the Ford model line up is the focus. Ford hasn't made the Fiesta in many years!!

    have a look
    http://ford.ca/main/default.asp?language=en&section=5

    but if that came to Canada it would be great! Why do most manufacturers have great model lineups in europe and bring the dull stuff to NA?

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    Festiva's were rebadged Kia's for that matter. As to "heavy diesel", someone either has only driven trucks or has never actually looked at engine weights before. The difference in weight between a diesel and a gasoline engine is actually quite minor. If it wasn't for the whole "horsepower" is everything mentallity of most people in north america, you'd see a lot more diesels on the road. Problem with horsepower is that the way its calculated, low-torque/high-rpm engines come out ahead of high-torque/low-rpm engines. Most diesels get the peak HP around 4000rpm. Most gasoline engines are anywhere from 5000 to 9000 rpm (in the case of some smaller engines Honda likes to use for example).

    Torque * RPM

    Horsepower = ------------

    5252

    100 pounds of torque at 4000 rpm gives 76.16hp. But 80 pounds at 5500 gives 83.77hp.

    Typical reason holding back diesels has been the ability to get enough air into the engine to burn the fuel efficiently at higher rpms. Turbo/Super charging only does so much, but extra aids like injecting Nitrous Oxide or Propane into the combustion chamber and you can get the engines going a lot higher RPMs. A british car show a couple years ago ran a quarter-mile dragrace between a 270hp Acura NSX and a 100hp VW Golf TDI with a nitrous kit installed. The Golf was ahead of the NSX for the first oh, 900 feet. Its only in the last 100 odd feet that the NSX managed to pull ahead and win, but just barely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by was98strat
    Current fiesta??? The smallest vehicle in the Ford model line up is the focus. Ford hasn't made the Fiesta in many years!!

    have a look
    https://ford.ca/main/default.asp?language=en&section=5

    but if that came to Canada it would be great! Why do most manufacturers have great model lineups in europe and bring the dull stuff to NA?
    In europe the Ford Ka is the smallest Ford


    Then the Fiesta:


    Then the Focus:


    Etc.....

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    It's really not too surpising that Ford's bringing it back considering the increased demand for ultra-economy class cars of late.
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    I really love this new Fiesta. It could be the new Focus though, I'm curious how the new Focus will look like. The interior is perfet, too. If I were to buy a car now, it would be this Fiesta for sure.

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    I just wish they could combine small economy cars w/ door handles(and other parts... Like knobs, gas cap covers...) that don't feel like they're gonna rip off in your hand!
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    The 5 door Mazda 2 incarnation looks pretty nice too.

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/mazda2.html
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    Fiesta/Verve

    Only the crappy old Fiesta name is being reincarnated onto this great new car for some loony reason. This car is actually the great new Ford Verve that's very hot in Europe. It's being redesigned for USA tastes and will be available in a year or two. (I like the Verve name much better, but it must have struck a nerve somewhere.)

    Ford mostly wanted to add 4 doors and make it look more like a sedan for Americans who have a stigma against hatch backs. (Much like they do for Wagons which is why I just picked up my Ford Taurus X so cheap.) But they're also considering importing the 3-door hatch shown above, depending on market response.

    Ford's new CEO from Boeing, Alan Mulally, has said he wants to accelerate more of the concept cars into production with less taming-down of the buzz, even if it costs a little more to produce. So a lot of the sparkle will survive. And it's pretty dazzling. Just for one, you can change the color of your dash lights and all your sub-lighting with a dial to suit your mood - blue, green, violet, pink,.... whatever.

    Ford in general is trying to bring more of the great European cars into the US as well as focus and globalize their market in all car lines, along with global integration of the engineering. They're getting rid of lines like Land Rover, Jaguar, and Volvo, so the can focus on making just one global luxury car line such as Lincoln with their own special high class models to compete globally with Accura and Infinity.

    For more details on the new Fiesta, see the Blue Oval threads.
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    Ford's Farley wants Fiesta Hatch in USA

    Incidentally, the Fiesta will have all the new SYNC system to go with the flashy dash. I have SYNC on my new Taurus X and it's very nice. I can choose media inputs from AM/FM/Satellite Radio/USB MPG flash/Bluetooth streaming from a phone in anyone's pocket/6-CD changer/Analog Audio input/Rear DVD-CD player and so on. The car reads my phone address book also. I can command everything with voice: phone, media, navigation, emergencies,...
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    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    I'm still not convinced new diesels are good. New diesels are going to be more expensive than todays diesels (2006 Jetta) to meat emissions. As a air breathing cyclist, I'm not trilled about the amount of particulate matter new diesels emit. Diesel fuel prices are much more expensive and as we approach 2010 refineries will have to remove more sulfur from the fuel, driving the cost up and the lubricity of the fuel down. With lower Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel the diesel engines will not last as long. They will add bio-diesel, but that has yet to prove sustainability (better than ethanol though). There is more C02 emissions from diesels when you include the refining process. "Torquey" motors is a positive for diesels, but they will never beat electric motor torque which car companies are paying a lot of attention to today.

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    The five-door version of the Fiesta was just unveiled. Looks like a plum of a car.

    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Hehe...

    My first car was a burnt orange 1980 Ford Fiesta. I mostly dragged my skater friends around to different spots. I put more oil into that thing than gas. Ahhh, the memories...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    The five-door version of the Fiesta was just unveiled. Looks like a plum of a car.
    Nice, hope Ford USA doesn't screw it up. I'll be looking for a second car in a couple years, this could fit the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufudufus
    Nice, hope Ford USA doesn't screw it up. I'll be looking for a second car in a couple years, this could fit the bill.
    Ignore the Hatchback picture above. That's the European version.

    Motor Trend got the scoop on the new US design, which is like the European version, but with four doors and a more sedan-like tail, rather than a hatchback which doesn't appeal to us Americans. It's got a "C" class interior in a "B" class car. Like it has a good radio, electronics, SYNC, color adjustable background and instrument lights, and nice interior quality.

    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Ford is run by old guys that love their old car names. Mustang, Thunderbird. They can't seem to find the future without grasping some element of the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    Ignore the Hatchback picture above. That's the European version.

    Motor Trend got the scoop on the new US design, which is like the European version, but with four doors and a more sedan-like tail, rather than a hatchback which doesn't appeal to us Americans. It's got a "C" class interior in a "B" class car. Like it has a good radio, electronics, SYNC, color adjustable background and instrument lights, and nice interior quality.


    I hope they remove the glass roof. HELLOW cooling load. Performance and fuel economy will suffer.

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    I normally prefer a hatchback, but damn that sedan looks nice! But give me a sunroof instead of the glass top

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