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    2018 Spectral Owners Thread

    Doesn't look like anyone started one yet so here goes. Covers all models. Post your pics, tips, questions, etc. specific to the 2018+ (until frame change) Spectral.

    I'll start.

    I have the 6.0 Al in size Medium that I just received this past weekend. Very happy with Canyon service and shipping times so far. Ordered on Tuesday received in Detroit on Saturday.

    I had a CF 8.0 but it arrived with a scratch and chip in the CF frame so I returned it. Expect to have refund by end of the week. I got the Al model to replace it since the weights were so close and now I won't have CF anxiety + have an extra G in my pocket for potential upgrades. Really pleased with my "downgrade" choice actually.

    First pass concerns (riding around the neighborhood, no trail riding yet):
    1. Still wondering if perhaps I should have gone for the large (I'm 5'10" with 32" inseam). L would mean that fully extended seat height would be about 22 mm too high though.
    2. Rear hub engagement requires much more crank rotation in low gears than I'm used to
    3. Rear brake requires more pressure than front. Didn't have this issue with the CF 8.0 so probably just needs a bleed.
    4. Seat creaks
    5. I have no idea what the hex 5nm torque wrench is for (it seems redundant) when the dial wrench covers this torque range

    Things I like:
    1. Awesome bang-for-the buck. Commencal TR (sweet looking bike) was my next option and it was $600 more w/o the wider rims which I wanted.
    2. Prefer the KS Lev Si dropper to the RS Reverb on the CF 8.0. It slides easier and has a nice southpaw lever versus the silly push-button on the RS.
    3. Al frame looks better in person then in photos
    4. Canyon US reps have answered all my emails and phone calls

    Right now my upgrade list includes:
    1. 60 or 70mm stem
    2. CF handlebar (reduce high-frequency vibration and shave a few grams)
    3. Rear hub if engagement still bothers me after after a few rides
    4. Water bottle holder (I might have one laying around somewhere)

    Questions:
    1. What are you guys running for tire pressures? Seems like the the 2.6" tires want to go lower than the mid 20's.
    2. What is the best suspension setup for max plushness over small bumps? No tokens & 35% SAG sound right? The trails I normally ride have 1.5' drops max but tons of roots and rocks.

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    I own the CF 9.0 Pro and I am very happy with it.

    On my upgrade list:

    1. Different Saddle. The one that comes with the bike is good, but just not wide enough for me.
    2. 1x Remote for the Reverb. The plunger works for now, but the 1x Remote seems like a better idea.
    3. Tools/spares storage. Looking at various options to keep a spare tire and a multitool on the Bike. The most promising option so far: Specialized MTB XC Box (https://www.specialized.com/us/en/mt...=234994-130105). I'll be picking that one up in a few days from my LBS.

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    ehkrass,
    Congrats on the bike. I can't argue with 1 or 2. Regarding 3, why not wait for the Canyon specific box? Seems like they're starting to get accessories based on my last conversation with them. Hopefully they won't charge an arm-and-a-leg for things like the box, water bottle-cage, hanger, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    ehkrass,
    Congrats on the bike. I can't argue with 1 or 2. Regarding 3, why not wait for the Canyon specific box? Seems like they're starting to get accessories based on my last conversation with them. Hopefully they won't charge an arm-and-a-leg for things like the box, water bottle-cage, hanger, etc.
    For 3, it basically comes down to availability. I've been checking their German and US website almost daily.

    Do you have any specific details with regards to availability that you can share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehkrass View Post
    For 3, it basically comes down to availability. I've been checking their German and US website almost daily.

    Do you have any specific details with regards to availability that you can share?
    I do not ask about it since I wasn't planning on getting one but the call-center folks were helpful in providing dates for me in the past regarding when the Spectrals were going to show up and when the hangers would be available so give them a call and see if they can give you an ETA.

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    I have the AL 6.0 and love it. I am 5'11.5" with 31" inseam and got a large. I am running the 150mm seatpost about 1.5" pulled out from top of seat tube. I was planning some upgrades but out of the box I am very pleased with everything. I plan on swapping out the stem as just the tiny look of it bugs me. The Guide R brakes are decent but may swap them out for the Magura MT Trail Sport brakes which I love.

    The bike is a beast on the downs and very happy with the fat tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    I have the AL 6.0 and love it. I am 5'11.5" with 31" inseam and got a large. I am running the 150mm seatpost about 1.5" pulled out from top of seat tube. ....
    Is your 31 inseam a typo or do you not like your dropper to go into full extension? Maybe wearing platform MTB shoes? Ha ha.

    I have a 32 inseam (5'10" tall) and am running the dropper about 17mm out on the M. If the seat tube is indeed 40mm longer on the L then I'd have to downsize the dropper if I wanted to run out fully extended, which I do. Perhaps I'm missing something?

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    Nope, All correct measurements. My other bike has a 15mm longer seat tube and I run the 150mm dropper about 3/4" out of the seat tube. Seatposts fully extended on climbs.

    I started with it slammed in and gradually raised it. Usually climb around 3700-4500 ft every ride and usually ride about 2 times a week.

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    I got a 2018 Spectral 6.0 AL size Large last week and have been itching to ride it. Trouble is the trails here are still muddy and snowy in places so I can't get out and really test it's capabilities. I've only managed about 10 miles in the past week.
    Bit of background. I've been bought a Giant Talon 2 new in 2012. After really getting the mountain biking bug in 2016, I'm finally to the point where I wanted a full squish ride to smooth out the gnar. I was set on a Giant Trance 2 for the longest but after finding Canyon, I realized the Spectral has better specs for less money. I spent probably two weeks trying to figure out what size to get. I finally settled on an L and it fits me pretty well. I'm 6' even in socks with a 33.5" inseam. The only thing I'm not sure about is that the seat height with the dropper all the way inserted and post extended is a little uncomfortable to stand with. I usually just drop the post to get on or off anyways so it doesn't bother me too much. I probably could have gone with a medium.
    Finally pulled the trigger after dawdling for a month or two.
    As it sits, the Spectral is stock but for some large Crank Brothers Stamp 3 pedals. I murdered the dropper cable housing in my haste to assemble it but pulled one out of my spares and had it up and running Friday of last week.

    In the little bit of time I've actually ridden it, I've realized a couple of things that I need to get used to.
    1. The bottom bracket is a lot lower than on my Talon. I've got to be a lot more careful when cornering to not have pedal strikes.
    2. The Eagle GX still needs a bit of tweaking as I get used to it. But the lowest gear doesn't seem to be as low as I was expecting. In my mind I saw it as stump-pulling torque. In practice though, it feels like it's barely lower than my lowest on the Talon. I really should have done the math. The lowest gear on the Talon is 22-32 (front-rear) while the lowest on the Spectral is 32-50. Even though the Talon is a 29er, it still feels better in the low end than the Spectral. I could remedy that with a smaller front chain ring. We'll have to see where I end up spending most of my uphill time, gear-wise.
    3. Like Omegaman said, the rear hub engagement is terrible. It takes a good 1/8th of a pedal turn to engage the hub. I'll have to ride it for a while before I make a decision. But I've got a feeling in the future I'll be looking at a new hub.
    4. The bars seem a touch wide for my shoulders but that might be because of the size jump. I put a cheap set of 720mm bars on the Talon and really enjoyed them. The Spectral has 780mm wide bars.

    Things I do like:
    1. Again, like Omegaman said, the color is awesome. I was expecting anodized aluminum but the powder coat is great.
    2. The 12-speed seems like it goes on forever. Clicking through the gears seems like it'll never end to get from the lowest to the highest. I'm also really happy to have the cockpit cleared up with one less shifter in my way.
    3. The ride is really comfortable. But almost anything with rear suspension is more comfortable than a hardtail. I'm hoping this'll help extend my ride sessions.
    4. The brakes aren't as instant as I was expecting but they are still great.
    5. I didn't notice it on the first trail ride but the pedal lockout works well. The first time I had it out was more of a hilly rail-trail than AM riding. I rode up some short but steep grades fully open. However once I got out onto some real trails, I could tell the lockout was doing it's job. Really glad to have it. That'll be fun learning to use. We have no shortage of hills to climb here.
    6. The wheel base is a good 5" longer than my Talon but I really like it. It'll cut down on the maneuverability on tight trails but I don't ride them too often.

    In general, my main impression is that the bike is confidence-inspiring. So much so that I'm impatiently biding my time until it's warmed and dried up. Can't wait to bomb down some of the Trails on Mt Penn or Neversink Mountain.
    Can't really say what I run for pressures or sag yet. I just know that I'm going tubeless soon once it dries out here. I have a slow leak in my front tube but pumped it up to 35psi for the last outing.

    TLDR: Very happy with it but it needs some getting used to and tweaking.
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    Anyone with a size small try to fit a water bottle? Not too thrilled with their dual small bottle solution.
    I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum.

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    First off, sweet photo!! ... and thanks for the post.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    I got a 2018 Spectral 6.0 AL size Large last week and have been itching to ride it. Trouble is the trails here are still muddy and snowy in places so I can't get out and really test it's capabilities.
    I feel your pain, same issue here. I took it to the local singletrack last Sunday only to find that they were completely snow covered and I should have brought my fatbike. I've just been riding it around the yard trying to get everything setup apart from doing the initial brake bed-in on the paved trail last Sunday.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    I probably could have gone with a medium.
    I think you made the right choice... I keep thinking that I 5'10" I should have gone with a large. I did try raising the dropper up by 40mm to simulate a large seattube this afternoon and it becomes just a tad too tall at full extension for me then.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    As it sits, the Spectral is stock but for some large Crank Brothers Stamp 3 pedals.
    I picked those up also, but the reg size. Seem plenty big for me at least. Happy so far since they weren't completely failing in the snow like the budget flats that I brought on Amazon (which had a 5 star rating).

    Normally I ride clipped, and I have some red CB pedals on stand-by for it, but I'm trying to learn to manual and bunny-hop so will be using the flats for a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    I murdered the dropper cable housing in my haste to assemble it but pulled one out of my spares and had it up and running Friday of last week.
    I've noticed that others have mentioned having issues with this but for me the cable was sticking out of the tube and it only took a few seconds to get the dropper on. Was your cable not fed through the frame when you received it?
    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    I could remedy that with a smaller front chain ring. We'll have to see where I end up spending most of my uphill time, gear-wise.
    Luckily it's an easy fix like you mentioned. I've actually been curious to try one of those oval rings but I would feel bad for the springs on the rear mech...

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    3. Like Omegaman said, the rear hub engagement is terrible. It takes a good 1/8th of a pedal turn to engage the hub. I'll have to ride it for a while before I make a decision. But I've got a feeling in the future I'll be looking at a new hub.
    If you end up changing that out I'd be interested in hearing what you go with and how much it set you back. Looks like the whole hub needs to get replaced to remedy that?

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    4. The bars seem a touch wide for my shoulders but that might be because of the size jump. I put a cheap set of 720mm bars on the Talon and really enjoyed them. The Spectral has 780mm wide bars.
    I might splurge on a CF 760mm bar in the future to quell some of the high-frequency vibrations if that turns out to be an issue... or cut the stock bars down to 760mm since there are a lot of tight tree openings one the local trails.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    4. The brakes aren't as instant as I was expecting but they are still great.
    I think bedding the pads helped; might want to give that a go if you haven't already.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    5. I didn't notice it on the first trail ride but the pedal lockout works well. The first time I had it out was more of a hilly rail-trail than AM riding. I rode up some short but steep grades fully open. However once I got out onto some real trails, I could tell the lockout was doing it's job. Really glad to have it. That'll be fun learning to use. We have no shortage of hills to climb here.
    The Pike on my bike takes a few cycles before changes to LSC dampening are realized. Not an issue but I thought the fork was defective the first time I played with that knob. Curious if yours reacts the same. Mine had one token installed, which jives with what RS has posted on their website.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    Can't wait to bomb down some of the Trails on Mt Penn or Neversink Mountain.
    Jealous... I have to drive a few hours to access any significant elevation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    I just know that I'm going tubeless soon once it dries out here.
    Plan on doing that as well but want to ride it with tubes a few times to see how much of a difference it makes. My bikes (fatbike and CX) have either started off and stayed tubeless, or have had tubes from the get-go (older stuff). I've never done a change-over.

    Enjoy your ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    Like Omegaman said, the rear hub engagement is terrible. It takes a good 1/8th of a pedal turn to engage the hub. I'll have to ride it for a while before I make a decision. But I've got a feeling in the future I'll be looking at a new hub.
    Did some searching, and it looks like M1900 wheels have 370hubs and 3pawl systems with 24 poe...non-upgradeable I'm afraid.

    Spectrals with M1700 wheels come with 350hubs and Ratchet systems with higher poe.

    Look on the bright side, at least they didn't come with 18poe hubs like some treks :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by gddyap View Post
    Anyone with a size small try to fit a water bottle? Not too thrilled with their dual small bottle solution.
    I swear that in at least one video review that I watched they mentioned that bottles will fit even on the small sizes, but I do not recall what size bottle. Pretty sure the video with the English Canyon rep mentioned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_manny View Post
    Did some searching, and it looks like M1900 wheels have 370hubs and 3pawl systems with 24 poe...non-upgradeable I'm afraid.

    Spectrals with M1700 wheels come with 350hubs and Ratchet systems with higher poe.

    Look on the bright side, at least they didn't come with 18poe hubs like some treks :P
    I test rode the CF 8.0 which I believe comes with the M1700... I thought that engagement was bad also. Maybe we'll get used to it.

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    I'm 5'10 with 32 inseam, 480 seat tube with 150 droper are just too much.

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    Guess I am just a mystery but I am fitting a L just fine with a 31" inseam. My Rallon has a 495mm seat tube and I'm running a 150mm dropper about 1/2ish" out of the seat tube just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    I test rode the CF 8.0 which I believe comes with the M1700... I thought that engagement was bad also. Maybe we'll get used to it.
    Good thing about the M1700 is you can get the 36t or 54t star ratchet to up the hub engagement points. I find the 24t on the m1900 fine although more would be nice. Coming off a 48t and 54t on my other bikes and only notice it when I focus on it.

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    For the rear pawls, I was thinking a new hub. Didn't know some could be upgraded. I've been dreaming about a full Industry Nine wheelset but will probably go with a cheaper alternative like Nukeproof. Just have to find one that can handle a 12-speed cassette.

    My seat cable was routed correctly. However since I was in a rush, I didn't feed the cable down through the grommet while I pushed the dropper into the frame. The grommet held the cable and prevented it from sliding. The weakest link in the system gave out and the cable bent and mashed up between the inside of the frame and the dropper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    .....However since I was in a rush, I didn't feed the cable down through the grommet while I pushed the dropper into the frame. The grommet held the cable and prevented it from sliding. The weakest link in the system gave out and the cable bent and mashed up between the inside of the frame and the dropper.
    I do not recall seeing a grommet. I'm assuming that it was in the seat tube? Dropper has been working fine though and I haven't heard any cable slap so I guess it's OK... I'll have to look in there next time I have the post off.

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    The grommet is on the back of the frame just about the bottom bracket. On mine the cable is routed down through the frame protectors, under the bottom bracket, and up through the grommet into the frame. It holds the cable really well so I'd be surprised if there was any cable slap.

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    Subscribing.. strongly considering the Al Large when it comes back in stock (I'm 6' w/ 32" inseam)

    How have you all found customer service after bike purchase? Is CanyonUSA responsive to concerns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phogan22 View Post
    How have you all found customer service after bike purchase? Is CanyonUSA responsive to concerns?
    UPDATE: Logged into my CC and noticed that I got the refund for the return on the 14th, so it only took them 3 business days to process it.

    I've been pleased so far but all I've done is returned one bike. I expected to have my money back by now but it seems like they're running behind..If I don't have a refund by next week then I'll have to give them a call and find out what's going on. Customer service has been very responsive and pleasant over the phone and within a couple of days via email. No ignored emails yet and I've probably sent a half dozen.
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    Im planning to buy canyon spectral CF. I am 5'7" and 780 inseam.What is the best size to get? Im in between S and M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archgodi View Post
    Im planning to buy canyon spectral CF race. I am 5'7" and 780 inseam.What is the best size to get? Im in between S and M.
    What size fuel EX do you prefer?

    I find it easier to recognize a bike-fit you like...then compare Geos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phogan22 View Post
    Subscribing.. strongly considering the Al Large when it comes back in stock (I'm 6' w/ 32" inseam)

    How have you all found customer service after bike purchase? Is CanyonUSA responsive to concerns?
    My Lev Si failed on the 4th ride. Reached out to Canyon so I'll see how their service goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    My Lev Si failed on the 4th ride. Reached out to Canyon so I'll see how their service goes.
    That's a bummer. Hopefully they'll send you out a replacement ASAP. Keep us in the loop and I hope you get to go riding again shortly.

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    New question here. Size Help!

    Hey All,

    Seriously considering the Spectral and looking for some sizing advice. I'm not sure if I should be riding a S or M. I'm in between sizes at exactly 170 cm tall with a 79 cm inseam. I've gotten 3 different answers from Canyon's PPS with only slight changes to my measurements (S, M, and M but S because my inseam measurement).

    Here is the geo of my current bike (medium 2014 BH Lynx 4.829) compared to the S and M Spectrals:

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    My current STL, TTL, and HTL are similar to the M Spectral, however, the wheel base, stack, and reach are all more similar to the S Spectral.

    Given the BH is less of a trail bike compared to the Spectral, my instinct is to go with the M for the longer reach and wheel base. However, I'm worried about my inseam length and not being able to have the saddle at the proper height with the 150 mm dropper. Any advice or guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winks3 View Post
    Hey All,

    Seriously considering the Spectral and looking for some sizing advice. I'm not sure if I should be riding a S or M. I'm in between sizes at exactly 170 cm tall with a 79 cm inseam. I've gotten 3 different answers from Canyon's PPS with only slight changes to my measurements (S, M, and M but S because my inseam measurement).

    Here is the geo of my current bike (medium 2014 BH Lynx 4.829) compared to the S and M Spectrals:

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    My current STL, TTL, and HTL are similar to the M Spectral, however, the wheel base, stack, and reach are all more similar to the S Spectral.

    Given the BH is less of a trail bike compared to the Spectral, my instinct is to go with the M for the longer reach and wheel base. However, I'm worried about my inseam length and not being able to have the saddle at the proper height with the 150 mm dropper. Any advice or guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks.
    On your current bike, measure from the middle of the BB to the top of the saddle. If you measure 702mm or more, then at least you know that you can have the saddle at the proper height with the dropper fully extended on the M. (This assumes you have 175mm cranks. Adjust accordingly if you have different length cranks).

    If you measure less, then you'd have to swap out the dropper, or change the cranks or both... or go with the S.

    If you're still unsure, have you considered ordering both and send back the one that doesn't fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winks3 View Post
    I'm worried about my inseam length and not being able to have the saddle at the proper height with the 150 mm dropper. Any advice or guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks.
    Don't let the dropper influence your decision, get the right size frame then swap the dropper if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phogan22 View Post
    Subscribing.. strongly considering the Al Large when it comes back in stock (I'm 6' w/ 32" inseam)
    The large should be perfect for you. I'm 6' 2" and find that the XL would be perfect for me if I was an inch or two taller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonlespaulspecial View Post
    Don't let the dropper influence your decision, get the right size frame then swap the dropper if necessary.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibsonlespaulspecial View Post
    Don't let the dropper influence your decision, get the right size frame then swap the dropper if necessary.
    Thanks for the help. In this case what IS the correct frame size? What's more important for a good fit? Stack and reach or TTL, STL, HTL?

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    On your current bike, measure from the middle of the BB to the top of the saddle. If you measure 702mm or more, then at least you know that you can have the saddle at the proper height with the dropper fully extended on the M. (This assumes you have 175mm cranks. Adjust accordingly if you have different length cranks).
    Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try this tonight. What's Canyon's exchange policy? Would I be able to go for a ride and then return it if the size feels wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winks3 View Post
    Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try this tonight. What's Canyon's exchange policy? Would I be able to go for a ride and then return it if the size feels wrong?
    https://www.canyon.com/en-us/imprint.../return-policy

    TL;DR: Return unused for full refund, return used for store credit (to swap out for different size/model).

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    Any shredders in harsh terrain on the Spectral? It just flashed on my radar, as Im in the market for a secondary bike for my 29. Most of my riding on South Mountain in Phoenix and I like to go fast in super-gnar terrain.
    Just like a raindrop, I was born to fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winks3 View Post
    Thanks for the help. In this case what IS the correct frame size? What's more important for a good fit? Stack and reach or TTL, STL, HTL?
    I would go with medium. If you like the cockpit length of your BH, you should get the same feel from the Spectral M since the TT length is pretty much the same. The difference in wheelbase between your BH and the Spectral is pretty much due to the steeper seat angle, and I'm a big fan of steeper seat angles. There may be some cases where a longer bike has it's downsides, but the upside of the steeper seat angle makes it well worth it.

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    I am absolutely dying to get the Spectral AL in that insane Hellfire color in a large. What I dont like is that it is listed as "sold out" and not available as an option on the email alerts. Perhaps I have missed my window on this one.
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    I would be surprised if it was sold out. The black is supposed to be in stock soon so I'd bet more red will come with them. I really wanted the black but didn't want to wait but glad because the red is sick.

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    I have a buddy thinking about a Spectral. Can anyone give me some real world weights of a complete bike. He is most likely a large. But the money savings of the AL has him thinking about upgrades, camping/riding trips and beer.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yetirich View Post
    I have a buddy thinking about a Spectral. Can anyone give me some real world weights of a complete bike. He is most likely a large. But the money savings of the AL has him thinking about upgrades, camping/riding trips and beer.....
    My Spectral AL 6 in size L was 13,65 Kg as it came out from the box (no pedals).

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    My Hellfire Red size Medium. Ordered it last Saturday, got it on Wednesday. Taken it on 2 rides in the Hawes trail system in Mesa AZ. It rips and climbs surprisingly well.

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    Good to see your enjoying the bike, the more reviews the better.

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    Thought I already posted this but don't see it so probably forgot to hit submit....

    Anyone else have creaking coming from their saddle? I pulled the saddle off and confirmed that it's the saddle, and not the seatpost.

    Here's a video:
    https://youtu.be/38BePGZi9sE

    Canyon told me to go through the saddle supplier, which I emailed and they want me to send the saddle to them for analysis (at my expense). Not liking that option one bit. Not sure if I should try to lube the rail/saddle interface. Any suggestions?

    Also, how close to "lock-out" do you guys get on the Pike with the LSC dial all the way clockwise? Just wanted to confirm that it's not supposed to lockout. Seems like the compression range of the dial is not very large.

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    Haven't had a problem with my saddle yet. But I only have about 20 miles on the bike so far. Just had more snow today so I'm back in the holding pattern waiting on dry weather.

    As for the fork, it doesn't lockout for me. Turning all the way clockwise seems to slow down the rebound. Haven't played with it a whole lot though.

    <Clarkson voice /ON> Right, sit-rep. <Clarkson voice /OFF> This thing is great. Had the Spectral out two times last week when it dried out. Only about 10 miles total. But it's been a lot of fun learning it's capabilities. I'll have to learn to trust it more with sharp switchbacks. The stability on the fast stuff is great. Overall I've really been enjoying it. Thursday, I beat two personal bests on Strava. And that's with being badly out of shape from not riding much since November or so. I can see lots of saddle time in my future.
    Maybe it's time to just go Dudes-of-Hazzard on the mountain, forget about the hassle of cleaning and just enjoy the ride.

    Has anyone seen if the storage case for the front of the frame is available yet? I've looked around but haven't seen anything other than pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    Haven't had a problem with my saddle yet. But I only have about 20 miles on the bike so far. Just had more snow today so I'm back in the holding pattern waiting on dry weather.

    As for the fork, it doesn't lockout for me. Turning all the way clockwise seems to slow down the rebound. Haven't played with it a whole lot though.
    Cool, thanks bro. Checked trail condition site and 2 people stated that local trail is good. Hope the reports weren't an April Fool's joke.... Going to head out there now, so stoked for my first real ride on the Al 6.0.

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    Just got back from my first real trail ride. There must be something wrong with my bike because I didn't set any PRs, ha ha.

    I did one loop with a 70mm straight stem and another with a 60mm, both RF Aeffect R. I didn't feel that dropping to the 60mm was hurting comfort but I have to check where my seat ended up before I decide which to will keep. The stock 50mm stem felt too cramped, with the 60mm Aeffect the bars are 11mm further forward with no vertical change.

    On the mostly singletrack trail I experienced quite a bit more pedal strikes than I with my old Klein and Fatbike; probably partially due to the CB Stamp pedals (I usually ride clipless) but it still seemed more than I'm used to. Doesn't look like a L frame would have improved that from the way I interpret the geo, correct?

    I decreased SAG from 30 to 25 percent on the second loop and it may have helped a little but the ride felt harsher. Not sure if I should try adding another token and decreasing pressure or vise-versa to help with the peddle strikes.

    It's my first bike with a dropper post and being able to lower the saddle going downhill was really nice. Drop-offs were butter-smooth and traction was awesome. On the second lap I hit a downed tree stump, fell off sideways, and got stopped by a tree. Have nice scrapes on both knees and my left elbow now. Bike was fine.

    One thing I noticed when cleaning the bike after the ride was that I almost lost the dropper grommet that's down near the BB. It was barely hanging on the cable. Kind of annoying that that happened and I wish that Canyon would have included some spares because if it happened on the first ride it will probably disappear at some point.

    Overall I'm happy with the bike, I just hope I can beat my $500 (used) 34lb fatbike times after losing my winter fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    The grommet is on the back of the frame just about the bottom bracket. On mine the cable is routed down through the frame protectors, under the bottom bracket, and up through the grommet into the frame. It holds the cable really well so I'd be surprised if there was any cable slap.
    So that grommet fell out during my ride today... holy annoyances batman, how the heck did you manage to get it back into the frame? I've been struggling with it for the last 30 minutes and no luck. It just seems like the grommet is made for too big of an angle vs how the cable naturally wants to sit. What's worse is that I'm concerned it's going to fall out again. Have half-mind just to RTV the cable in place but I'm not sure if that will hold either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    Overall I'm happy with the bike, I just hope I can beat my $500 (used) 34lb fatbike times after losing my winter fat.
    I know how you feel...one of my personal bests was on my fatbike.
    At the time, I attributed it to the Power of the Pugsley

    Thanks for the ride report.

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    Spectral vs Pivot Mach 5.5

    Anyone have any experience riding the Pivot Mach 5.5 and Spectral? How do they compare? Geo looks fairly similar in terms of stack, reach, HTA, STA, and wheelbase. I'm able to demo the Mach 5.5 at my LBS and was thinking I could use it to get an idea for how the Spectral would feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    So that grommet fell out during my ride today... holy annoyances batman, how the heck did you manage to get it back into the frame?
    Trying to write this without the potential for a "that's what she said" is tough. I started with the grommet locked around the cable. From there I slipped it up the cable and had to work it around until it popped into place. If I remember correctly, it has a lip on the back that should pop out around the inside of the frame and lock it in place. You might try some soapy water on it to lubricate it.

    A large frame probably wouldn't help you with pedal strikes. In the few rides I've had it out, I've learned that I need to watch where/when I pedal. Compared to my Giant Talon, the BB is a lot lower than I am used to. I've got more than a few strike marks on my nice new Stamps too. It's becoming clear that pedal placement over obstacles is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    Trying to write this without the potential for a "that's what she said" is tough. I started with the grommet locked around the cable. From there I slipped it up the cable and had to work it around until it popped into place. If I remember correctly, it has a lip on the back that should pop out around the inside of the frame and lock it in place. You might try some soapy water on it to lubricate it.

    A large frame probably wouldn't help you with pedal strikes. In the few rides I've had it out, I've learned that I need to watch where/when I pedal. Compared to my Giant Talon, the BB is a lot lower than I am used to. I've got more than a few strike marks on my nice new Stamps too. It's becoming clear that pedal placement over obstacles is important.
    That grommet is a pain to install. I had to pull off the horrible KS Lev SI and getting that thing back in was difficult. I worked it on the cable and patiently worked it back in. In hindsight it may be easier to lube the cable the slide it in.....

    Pedal strikes are a definite thing to watch out for. I just upgraded to X0 cranks on mine and went with 170mm......not that 5mm will be much help. Still a great bike and loving it so far...... The Maxxis tires on mine seem very fragile though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    That grommet is a pain to install. I had to pull off the horrible KS Lev SI and getting that thing back in was difficult. I worked it on the cable and patiently worked it back in. In hindsight it may be easier to lube the cable the slide it in.....

    Pedal strikes are a definite thing to watch out for. I just upgraded to X0 cranks on mine and went with 170mm......not that 5mm will be much help. Still a great bike and loving it so far...... The Maxxis tires on mine seem very fragile though.
    Why don't you like the KS? Did you get it replaced yet? No issues with mine what-so-ever; I actually prefer it to the Reverb but I really haven't had much time with either yet so my dataset is small.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    Trying to write this without the potential for a "that's what she said" is tough. I started with the grommet locked around the cable. From there I slipped it up the cable and had to work it around until it popped into place. If I remember correctly, it has a lip on the back that should pop out around the inside of the frame and lock it in place. You might try some soapy water on it to lubricate it.
    I finally got it back in yesterday after taking off the rear wheel and putting it on a stand so I could work it better. As you mentioned, I had to first put it around the cable and slide it up while pushing the cable away from the frame so it could get into the hole at the proper angle. I really hope it stays put because I don't want to have to deal with that again.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginger-mech View Post
    A large frame probably wouldn't help you with pedal strikes. In the few rides I've had it out, I've learned that I need to watch where/when I pedal. Compared to my Giant Talon, the BB is a lot lower than I am used to. I've got more than a few strike marks on my nice new Stamps too. It's becoming clear that pedal placement over obstacles is important.
    It's going to take me a while to get used to the low BB; i guess it's good that I ended up getting the Al Stamps also instead of a nylon set.

    On a different topic, the rear brake lever on mine was feeling a little softer than the front, and I could get the level to touch the handlebar with a good one-finger squeeze (rear wheel was locked up by that point though). I did not like this so I did a brake bleed but it didn't help. Luckily I found this video and it seems to have done the trick: https://youtu.be/WSjsFxrcfZw

    Next order of business is to remove the "dork disk"... although you can barely see it behind that giant cassette!

    Cheers!

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    Did you try turning the adjustment screw on the brake lever? I had the same thing happening, turned the screw a few clicks and it adjusted the engagement of the brake earlier in the pull.

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    I've bought AL 7.0 medium size, so I though I'll share my thought on the bike.

    Quality:
    - The frame is not painted properly in few places (this is very minor) and it even has a little dent in one place, about 2mm across.
    - I have an 2x drive train version and the front der cable is routed not on the opposite side of the head tube - this is a cable routing error. It cannot be routed on the opposite side because of how holes are made in in the plastic cable cover. One redundant hole is there in the cover but on the left side not on the right..
    - The plastic cable cover that goes under the bottom frame tube is very cheap, made of cheap, hard plastic that I'm sure will be destroyed by stones hitting it. In one place the plastic pieces don't come together perfectly and they make a hole that is an entrance for dirt - looks like the dirt will collect there. It would be enough the make the pieces come together not at an angle but with straight faces like other pieces next to them to get rid of the issue... The plastic cover also ends when the BB starts. It should extend that few cm further to protect the BB area. I really think that this needs to be redesigned and that the current owners should get new cable cover for free.
    - Rear rotor is far to close to chain stay and it is hard to put the wheel on without hitting the frame with the rotor. Paint will be scratched. Rotor might be bent.
    - There is an integrated cable routing guide/chain stay protector on the drive train side. This is pointless. It weight more that neoprene protector and protects less. It would be better to just make cable routing zip ties attachment points on the frame. I will probably get rid of this and use zip ties to route the cable.
    - A very minor thing but I would move the bottle cage attachment points a little lower. It would be much easier to fit a water bottle on a medium frame. Still I have managed to fit one in my frame.
    - I like the fact the the bearings are covered by those little plates but cant commend on how this will actually affect bearings wear.
    - Finish is not there on pair with other brands. Giant has a carbon rocker link and smoothed welds for example and much better paint finish

    Overall the frame quality is lacking. Looks like they have designed a solid platform and than left details to an intern. However, It might be that they have focused on carbon version, that the carbon version might not have a rotor/chain stay issue, that the quality is better there and that there are no routing issues without front der. Still this is not an excuse.

    Sizing:
    Sizing is odd. I'm 170 cm tall (5.6) and I'm glad I bought medium. I think I might not even fit on a small frame. At the same time my dropper is slammed almost all the way down in the frame. Looks like the reach/height of the bike is oddly matched. If you have problems deciding on which size to go for than go for the reach.

    Ride:
    This is were things are much better. I like the geometry of the bike very much. The bike is stiff (feels overbuild for a trail bike - but this is not a bad thing in my case) and descend really well. It does not seem to be bothered by the line choices at all. Still it climbs well. There is some bob in the larger ring on flat sections, but less bob on steep climbs in the lower front ring.
    The frame works very well. The Pike has to much LSC for my liking and feels harsh at low speeds but comes to live when going fast.

    Other:
    - Where is the canyon bag that the bike was advertised with? It was not included with the package. The bike has 3 attachment points within the front triangle next to head tube for that bag.
    - The frame lacks ICSG mount. I think that every trail bike should have a bash guard. You will hit things with chain rings for sure.

    The changes I've made so far to the bike:
    - Race Face next handlebar with 10mm rise, and got rid of all the spacers below the stem. I will cut the steerer for sure.
    - XT rear cassette.
    - Got rid of tubes.
    - Upgraded rear hub to 54 ratchet.
    - Disconnected the spring at the bottom of KS LEV dropper - the lever
    is so much nicer to operate this way.
    - Changed the 26 tooth small ring on the crankset to 24. Might try 22 as the bikes climbs very well on very steep slopes.

    Overall this is a very capable trail bike. There are some good ideas that are poorly engineered but in places that are not critical - this is annoying but should not affect performance. The sizing is odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jernejk View Post
    My Spectral AL 6 in size L was 13,65 Kg as it came out from the box (no pedals).
    Is that with the reflector kit installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHerd View Post
    Did you try turning the adjustment screw on the brake lever? I had the same thing happening, turned the screw a few clicks and it adjusted the engagement of the brake earlier in the pull.

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    My bike came with the Guide R brakes that only have the reach adjustment, unfortunately no contact point adjustment.

    I could extend the reach but then it wouldn't be as easy to reach

    Just to clarify, the rear wheel would lock up before the lever reached the handlebar so braking power was not an issue, it was the fact that front and rear brakes had a different ramp-up.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    Is that with the reflector kit installed?
    Of course not... 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winks3 View Post
    Anyone have any experience riding the Pivot Mach 5.5 and Spectral? How do they compare? Geo looks fairly similar in terms of stack, reach, HTA, STA, and wheelbase. I'm able to demo the Mach 5.5 at my LBS and was thinking I could use it to get an idea for how the Spectral would feel.

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    Where did you find a page to compare those two bikes? Im also interested in both bikes. Ive read some of the reviews of the 5.5 not being a very play full bike. Now the Spectral is a 150R/140F bike and the 5.5 is a 140R/160F....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Where did you find a page to compare those two bikes?
    https://geometrygeeks.bike/ is your friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michal View Post

    Other:
    - Where is the canyon bag that the bike was advertised with? It was not included with the package. The bike has 3 attachment points within the front triangle next to head tube for that bag.
    Canyon calls that the "frame case" on their advertisements. I sent them an email about that a few days ago and just received the reply. They say they are expecting this item to be in stock in June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Where did you find a page to compare those two bikes? Im also interested in both bikes. Ive read some of the reviews of the 5.5 not being a very play full bike. Now the Spectral is a 150R/140F bike and the 5.5 is a 140R/160F....
    I had a chance to ride the 5.5 this past weekend. I was on the Pro XT/XTR 1x build with the DT Swiss 1700 35mm rims. You're correct when you say its not a playful bike. I found it to be pretty sluggish on the climbs. It seemed like I had to work extra hard to clear climbs that normally aren't hard for me on my BH Lynx 4.829. Given I don't have a ton of experience riding 27.5 bikes, I was surprised that the smaller wheels didn't accelerate as well as I thought they would. I'm wondering if that's more of a function of the increased rotating weight of the wheels with the heavier rims and 2.6 in rubber rather than the size of the wheels. The LBS owner who I demo'd from said most people who buy the 5.5 from him upgrade to lighter carbon wheels pretty quickly.

    Whats been everyone's experience climbing and accelerating on the Spectral? Anyone have any experience riding a 27.5 with a lighter rim/tire combo that didn't feel slow? Riding the 5.5 didn't give me much confidence to pull the trigger on the Spectral as I really didn't enjoy it.

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    Let's not forget suspension design...it's not all Geo.
    Seems like all 5 design stats are quite different (between the Pivot 5.5 and the Spectral).

    Including Leverage Ratio Graph below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_manny View Post
    Let's not forget suspension design...it's not all Geo.
    Seems like all 5 design stats are quite different (between the Pivot 5.5 and the Spectral).

    Including Leverage Ratio Graph below.
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    What does this mean in terms of how each bike will ride?

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    Purchasing a bike without having the ability to demo is a pretty large hurdle.
    Just pointing out that suspension design also needs to be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_manny View Post
    Purchasing a bike without having the ability to demo is a pretty large hurdle.
    Just pointing out that suspension design also needs to be considered.
    Definitely agree. And its clear that the Spectral and 5.5 are different in all of the suspension stats. Just curious, since I'm not well versed on these metrics, how they translate to differences in ride quality and how each bike handles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winks3 View Post
    I had a chance to ride the 5.5 this past weekend. I was on the Pro XT/XTR 1x build with the DT Swiss 1700 35mm rims. You're correct when you say its not a playful bike. I found it to be pretty sluggish on the climbs. It seemed like I had to work extra hard to clear climbs that normally aren't hard for me on my BH Lynx 4.829. Given I don't have a ton of experience riding 27.5 bikes, I was surprised that the smaller wheels didn't accelerate as well as I thought they would. I'm wondering if that's more of a function of the increased rotating weight of the wheels with the heavier rims and 2.6 in rubber rather than the size of the wheels. The LBS owner who I demo'd from said most people who buy the 5.5 from him upgrade to lighter carbon wheels pretty quickly.

    Whats been everyone's experience climbing and accelerating on the Spectral? Anyone have any experience riding a 27.5 with a lighter rim/tire combo that didn't feel slow? Riding the 5.5 didn't give me much confidence to pull the trigger on the Spectral as I really didn't enjoy it.
    My buddy rides a mojo 3 with 2.6 front and rear and it's a real playful bike. A different beast than the 5.5 or Spectral though.
    My only time riding a mojo 3 was with plus tires which I'm not a fan of, but it was a poppy bike.

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    I have a Spectral AL6.0 on the way. Do the wheels come taped for tubeless? Does it come with tubeless valve stems?

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    Mine came taped with tubes and valve stems were in the box.

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    Another question for yall: have any of you raced/plan on racing the Spectral? If so, what discipline?

    I've always been a pretty casual racer so the do-everything bike philosophy definitely applies, but I like entering the occasional XC and maybe enduro.

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    Howdy all!
    I'm looking to buy the Al 6.0 but its been saying "coming soon" on the large sizes, last time I saw they came in stock they sold out fast so I want to be on top of it this time. Anyone know roughly what the turn around time for "coming soon" is?

    Also second question, to any of the Al owners do you feel like there was anything that really needed to be upgraded right out of the gates?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMntMonkey View Post
    Howdy all!
    I'm looking to buy the Al 6.0 but its been saying "coming soon" on the large sizes, last time I saw they came in stock they sold out fast so I want to be on top of it this time. Anyone know roughly what the turn around time for "coming soon" is?

    Also second question, to any of the Al owners do you feel like there was anything that really needed to be upgraded right out of the gates?

    Thanks!
    I was looking for the 6.0 for my son and spoke to Canyon. They said they were getting stock in mid April and again at the end of April but couldn't give exact dates. They recommended signing up on their website for notification. When they arrive they will let you know and then it is first come first serve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMntMonkey View Post
    Howdy all!
    I'm looking to buy the Al 6.0 but its been saying "coming soon" on the large sizes, last time I saw they came in stock they sold out fast so I want to be on top of it this time. Anyone know roughly what the turn around time for "coming soon" is?

    Also second question, to any of the Al owners do you feel like there was anything that really needed to be upgraded right out of the gates?

    Thanks!
    I heard next in stock early May and consistent deliveries through May (as of yesterday morning)

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    I got an email the other day telling me a size medium AL 6.0 was available, but it was gone within 2 hours. I just randomly checked this morning and it was available again, so I ordered it. I'm guessing it was a return or cancelled order for stock to change so quickly, and on just one size of bike. Anyway, I'm pretty excited for a new bike!

    Can anyone tell me if this bike comes with a water bottle cage? I think I read somewhere that only a specifically designed cage works with it, but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bl858 View Post
    I got an email the other day telling me a size medium AL 6.0 was available, but it was gone within 2 hours. I just randomly checked this morning and it was available again, so I ordered it. I'm guessing it was a return or cancelled order for stock to change so quickly, and on just one size of bike. Anyway, I'm pretty excited for a new bike!

    Can anyone tell me if this bike comes with a water bottle cage? I think I read somewhere that only a specifically designed cage works with it, but I'm not sure.
    It doesn't come with a cage, but you can mount a standard cage. A large bottle won't fit (at least a large Camelback Podium won't). I picked up a Lyzene side load cage similar to the one Canyon is supposed to be offering soon. Another thing to consider is the bike doesn't come with the mounting screws, it just has rubber plugs in the holes.

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    Lucked out and slipped into the window to buy a Large Spectral Al 6.0 in Red last weekend! Just took her out for a first ride this weekend, here's the recap (coming from an '06 SC Heckler as my previous bike so take this with a grain of salt):

    Pros:
    - wow this thing is comfortable at speed
    - suspension felt dialed from the get-go. Hit some pretty big rock gardens and it never felt too harsh
    - really solid pedal platform and susp performance under braking. never touched the lockout on the shock.
    - the 2.6" Minion up front has tons of grip. the Rekon out back a bit less so, but I kinda like it that way.
    - felt comfortable climbing up rolling singletrack. I felt a bit slower but my strava says otherwise
    - at 6' with a 32" inseam the large is just small enough for my legs. cockpit felt nice and roomy, even with 800mm bars
    - the front end felt way stiffer than I'm used to

    Cons:
    - downhill switchbacks were a bit tricky, mainly just getting used to the long wheelbase
    - need to swap out the grips, they felt a bit thin for my hands
    - the Guide

    Side note: I'm pretty sure Canyon shipped me a defective stem (see my post in the Components section), since it has no slot to allow the stem to tighten on the bars. I reached out to them on Friday, hoping for a response early next week. In the meantime, using the Hussefelt from my old bike.

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    Anyone know what color touch-up for the red?

    Went out for my second real trail-ride of the season yesterday. Still slow from the fat-buildup over the winter but the ride was a lot of fun. When I got back I noticed a set of chips on the bottom of the chainstay (see photo). So bummed but it reinforces my decision to sticking with aluminum. Looks like the the chain did this? Not quite sure when this happened because I never heard any chain-slap. I'm thinking this actually occurred on the last ride when I wiped out and I just didn't notice it. Either way, I'd like to touch up the chips. Anyone check to see what automotive "dupli-color" matches best? I'm also thinking of throwing some electrical tape around the chainstay to hopefully prevent this in the future.

    On this ride I noticed that my right heel was clipping the seat-stay on occasion. I will try to adjust my cleats inward to hopefully eliminate this. On the other hand, no pedal-strikes with the CB candy pedals vs the Stamps.

    Still trying to dial in the Pike for max sensitivity. It felt pretty good on the first ride but it was using most of the travel so I put a little more air in. This ended up making it bounce around too much on climbs.
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    I demo'd a small Spectral at SeaOtter yesterday and it felt good at 5'6" and 30"-ish inseam. I was worried about the seat post but it felt good with the post slammed all the way down. It felt pretty light and then I realized I was riding the CF 9.0 SL. I have more of a CF 8.0 budget. I checked fit of a regular 20oz water bottle and cage and it just fits in the lower position. It would have to be a side loading cage.
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    Missed out on Sea Otter...any idea when the 2018 Spectral 6.0 AL will
    be in the states...large?
    Signed up for notification but nothing as of yet.

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    Well the blacked out CF 8.0 are selling out fast...How bad is the Forrest flare color in person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Well the blacked out CF 8.0 are selling out fast...How bad is the Forrest flare color in person?
    Personal preference but I didn't find it offensive. It's greyish with a hint of green and the stripe is a orange... under fluorescent light I thought the stripe was too much but in natural light it looked fine.

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    New Bike Day

    First ride on the new Spectral. 15 miles of central PA singletrack. On a large, which I had to swap the stock 150mm dropper to a 125mm dropper because it was about 12mm too high for me at full insertion and full extension. I'm 182cm tall.

    Set it up tubeless from the start. Rims were taped, but no valve stems included. I put in some red AC stems, Stans, and aired up nice and easy. Not sure why they spec the 3C rubber on the rear, very grippy, but will wear out quickly.

    I love the fit, longer reach than my Remedy, and pedals better too. Still have to get the fork dialed, seems very stiff, even though it's 5psi lower than recommended for my weight. Also would like to put a volume spacer in the rear shock as it bottoms too easily for my taste.

    Low bottom bracket had me smacking pedals a lot on the rocky trails. It got better over the ride as I became more conscious of it and was more careful. I definitely recommend getting crank boots for protection. I use the small race face ones. 170mm cranks would be nice instead of the stock 175's too.

    Another thing I notice is the GX Eagle rear derailleur cage is lower to the ground than the Shimano XT on my Remedy. I'm nervous about it picking up sticks and tweaking it. I lock the rear brake and stop for every little stick I catch back there.

    Surprised at how much I like the brakes, coming from XT's. The Guide R have good modulation, and can lock them up with one finger.

    Now I have to decide which bike to keep and which to sell, the Spectral or the Remedy....

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    Thanks for the report. My bike(s) came with valve stems for tubeless so maybe check the box again or give them a call and have them send you out a pair. Still running tubes on mine cause I want to see if I'll be able to tell the difference in ride when I ditch the tubes.

    How do the two bikes stack-up in terms of weight?

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    Both called and emailed Canyon. Response was that they will not have touch-up paint for this years' Spectral and suggested finding a close match in either nail-polish (?) or automotive touch-up paint. If I find an exceptional match I'll post about it. If anyone beats me to it please let me know. Thanks!

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    I ordered mine today, I am stoked. I demoed it at Sea Otter and loved it. '

    Before I rode one, I had some concerns about the taller headtube, but it felt great climbing and descending. I want to try slamming the stem as much as possible, so I can get more weight over the front end when cornering aggressively downhill, so I plan to put the 12mm spacer to be on top of the stem. I think it will be pretty sweet stock, but am considering a 10mm rise handlebar on the XL instead of the 20mm.

    Quote Originally Posted by gddyap View Post
    ...I checked fit of a regular 20oz water bottle and cage and it just fits in the lower position. It would have to be a side loading cage.
    Anyone know if a 24 oz bottle will fit in an XL frame, with or without a side loading cage? The customer service rep I talked to said he thought the XL should do fine with a top load cage and a 20oz bottle, so I am optimistic I can just use my existing 24 oz bottles and cage.

    The frame case, for storing a few small things in the front triangle, may be available in a couple months from the US site, according to customer service. This is my first bike with a dropper, so I am thinking about storing stuff on the bike, and I don't really want my multi-tool in my pocket.
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    I'm looking at getting a new bike and this one is high up on the list, but the BB height and complaints of pedal strikes is a bit of a hangup. I wish I could ride it beforehand. Does anyone know the BB height or can you measure it for me?

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    12.8" bottom bracket, measured static (off the bike)
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonraker View Post
    12.8" bottom bracket, measured static (off the bike)
    Thanks!

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    Anyone get any updates on the Al 6.0?

    Im tempted to pull the trigger on a new stumpy.
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    Been doing more and more riding as the weather has gotten nicer. At this point I'm definitely running into a wall of my own skills and not faults of the bike. In the past week, I've blasted down hills and trails at speeds I would have balked at just 6 months ago. I said it before and I'll say it again. This bike is seriously confidence boosting.
    An example. Tuesday night was the local group ride. We did about 8.9 miles with 1170ft of climbing. I tended to lag in the middle of the group on the climbs but was able to keep up with the front on descents. The climbing issues are purely me. Gotta work on my high-output endurance. The descents however are where the Spectral really shines. It's stable, fast, nimble. The longer wheelbase than my Giant Talon has really helps with keeping my weight over the rear tire on steep, slow downhill sections. One of the new personal bests was a tricky, switchback downhill section.
    The more I ride it, the harder I find myself pushing into the berms and pedaling out. It's just so much fun to link consecutive turns while weaving through the trees.
    I've been mostly happy with the brakes. The stopping power is great. They modulate well too without being too grabby. I'd like for the levers to not be so flopping in the resting position though. After I adjusted the reach to my liking, there is a little bit of movement in the lever opposite the direction of pull. If you push out on the levers with your fingers, it feels like they are just spring loaded. (I'm guessing that's just how they work) Not a big deal. It just feels a little sloppy to me.
    I also still find myself having pedal strikes occasionally. Again, that's me. I'm still learning to backpedal or keep the pedals level over tall obstacles. It's not really a fault of the bike, just something to get used to. And the breakover angle isn't as good as I had hoped. You really see this when you try to ride over a tree that is down across the trail.
    But despite this, I'd still highly recommend the Spectral. It's a hard-to-beat package for the price. I also like that it's unique here in the States. One of the guys from the Tuesday ride said mine was the first he'd seen in person.
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    Looking to pick one of these up. What other bikes do you guys recommend trying out for sizing purposes that would be close to this 2018 Spectral?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonv View Post
    Looking to pic one of these up. What other bikes do you guys recommend try out for sizing purposes that would be close to this 2018 Spectral?
    This is a list of bikes I could think of, the Spectral is unique because of its high stack and long seat tube compared to other bikes. The closest might be the Yeti sb5 or sb6. BTW I used a large frame in my search
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    I just took a 2019 Stumpjumper (on 29er tires) out on demo and the size M seemed like a great fit for me. I am usually in between a S or M on most bikes. So my question is what size should I be look at with the 2018 Spectral since I can't demo it. How does the sizing of the Spectral compare to the sizing of the Stumpjumper, should I just go with the M as the Medium of the Stumpjumper was a good fit?

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    The medium Spectral would be the best option.
    The Reach numbers are almost the same (see attached pic from geometrygeeks).
    The Spectral headtube is 20mm taller = less spacers below the spectral stem or switch to flat bar if you want a lower position.
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    Dang, I was just on the site yesterday and they had Large comps, went back today and sold out.

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    My CF 8.0 should show up tomorrow! I waited for the stealth scheme. I just wasn't feeling the forest flame, at least on the web page. Might be nicer in person.

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    I'm in the same position as Omegaman: I'm 5'10" with a 32" inseam; the Canyon fit calculator recommended a size medium. I snagged a red Spectral AL 6 size M last week, and it arrived on Friday.

    My other bike is a '17 Stache 5 in size 18.5", which I've been very happy with. Interestingly, the dimensions of the Spectral's cockpit are almost identical to those of the Stache--the BB is the same height above the ground, and the BB to top-of-seat-tube and top-of-seat-tube to top-of-steerer tube distances are almost exactly the same. (Obviously, other aspects of the geometries are very different between the 29"+ Stache hardtail and the 27.5" full-suss Spectral). On both bikes i have the seat pushed back as far as it will go. The Stache's stem is 70mm and the Spectral's is 50mm, so the effective reach is a bit shorter on the Spectral; swapping out the stem will fix that. I used to wish I'd gotten a 19.5" Stache, but I've gotten used to the 18.5". I suspect I'd get used to the M Spectral, too.

    But I'm thinking about ordering a size L Spectral (if they are ever in stock), comparing it to the M, keeping the one I like better and sending back the other. I haven't taken the M any further than my driveway, and it still has the bubblewrap, hangtags, and other shipping accoutrements attached to it so I can return it for a refund if that's what I decide to do.

    Size aside, I like the red color much more than I thought I was going to; it looks great in person. Sort of a cranberry-ish red. The bike arrived in perfect condition--no dings, chips, mars in the paint, etc.

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    First post, just wanted to join the cool club. Just ordered a medium stealth CF 8.0 and opted for 2 day shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Blister View Post
    I'm in the same position as Omegaman: I'm 5'10" with a 32" inseam; the Canyon fit calculator recommended a size medium. I snagged a red Spectral AL 6 size M last week, and it arrived on Friday.

    My other bike is a '17 Stache 5 in size 18.5", which I've been very happy with. Interestingly, the dimensions of the Spectral's cockpit are almost identical to those of the Stache--the BB is the same height above the ground, and the BB to top-of-seat-tube and top-of-seat-tube to top-of-steerer tube distances are almost exactly the same. (Obviously, other aspects of the geometries are very different between the 29"+ Stache hardtail and the 27.5" full-suss Spectral). On both bikes i have the seat pushed back as far as it will go. The Stache's stem is 70mm and the Spectral's is 50mm, so the effective reach is a bit shorter on the Spectral; swapping out the stem will fix that. I used to wish I'd gotten a 19.5" Stache, but I've gotten used to the 18.5". I suspect I'd get used to the M Spectral, too.

    But I'm thinking about ordering a size L Spectral (if they are ever in stock), comparing it to the M, keeping the one I like better and sending back the other. I haven't taken the M any further than my driveway, and it still has the bubblewrap, hangtags, and other shipping accoutrements attached to it so I can return it for a refund if that's what I decide to do.

    Size aside, I like the red color much more than I thought I was going to; it looks great in person. Sort of a cranberry-ish red. The bike arrived in perfect condition--no dings, chips, mars in the paint, etc.
    Did you get a email saying one was available? or just dumb luck? Im starting to wonder if aluminum models are ever going to show up.
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    2018 Spectral Owners Thread-rsx3vkjmqzixdajw%25lufga.jpg only had two rides on it, still getting used to it but all in all my time going up improved by two minutes and by my standards that's a big improvement

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Did you get a email saying one was available? or just dumb luck? Im starting to wonder if aluminum models are ever going to show up.
    I have a Chrome extension set up to alert me when the "coming soon" page changes. I just got the alert [5/7/2018, 6:16 pm Central]. I ordered a large in stealth (no red larges, sadly). I'll see how the large compares to the medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Blister View Post
    I have a Chrome extension set up to alert me when the "coming soon" page changes. I just got the alert [5/7/2018, 6:16 pm Central]. I ordered a large in stealth (no red larges, sadly). I'll see how the large compares to the medium.
    Cool, I just ordered one to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Blister View Post
    I have a Chrome extension set up to alert me when the "coming soon" page changes. I just got the alert [5/7/2018, 6:16 pm Central].
    I would have written a script to check for changes (and send out an alert).
    Didn't realize these tools were available....Smart Man

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    Any one have an idea on how long the wait list is for the Al 6.0?
    I've emailed the company a handful of times without any response.
    Can't be that busy can they?

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    If you go to their website right now they have S,M,L available on Stealth and S on Hellfire Red. Good Luck
    Quote Originally Posted by PopaWeelie View Post
    Any one have an idea on how long the wait list is for the Al 6.0?
    I've emailed the company a handful of times without any response.
    Can't be that busy can they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Blister View Post
    I ordered a large in stealth (no red larges, sadly). I'll see how the large compares to the medium.
    Looking forward to your feedback on how they compare
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    3 weeks with my new spectral al 6.0 size L
    I get tubeless with 20psi(front)/25psi(rear)
    I'm thinking on a bash guard...
    Any idea?
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    New bike day for me will be Monday.

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    Enjoying all the pics...

    Definitely getting the urge to pull the trigger on a CF 8.0 ^^

    Awesome spec for the price.

    Anyone gone from a Giant Reign, to a Spectral - want to compare their chops going down?

    A given, that Spectral will climb a lot better ;-)

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    I to have bit the bullet...my spectral al 6.0 arrives in 2 days !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    Questions:
    1. What are you guys running for tire pressures? Seems like the the 2.6" tires want to go lower than the mid 20's.
    2. What is the best suspension setup for max plushness over small bumps? No tokens & 35% SAG sound right? The trails I normally ride have 1.5' drops max but tons of roots and rocks.

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    1. As I said, i have 20psi front / 25psi rear. but my idea is to go a little bit lower:
    16-19 psi front / 20-24 psi rear. (but i have to test it).

    2. Cant help you. Im not an expert. My configuration:
    my spectral came with 1 tokken mount-->70psi/20-25%SAG (im 175lb) and it is ok for me (i used the 95% of the stroke), but now im going to try 2 tokkens --> 60-65psi/ 25-30% SAG. (i didnt test it yet.).

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    Anyone know what the internal width of the rims that come on the spectral AL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopaWeelie View Post
    Any one have an idea on how long the wait list is for the Al 6.0?
    I've emailed the company a handful of times without any response.
    Can't be that busy can they?
    I called Canyon US to ask that a couple weeks ago. They said they don't do waitlists [at least for the US store]. They did give dates for when new stock might come in, but that didn't seem completely accurate, compared to what I saw from checking each day for a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeggs1993 View Post
    I called Canyon US to ask that a couple weeks ago. They said they don't do waitlists [at least for the US store]. They did give dates for when new stock might come in, but that didn't seem completely accurate, compared to what I saw from checking each day for a few days.
    Small and Mediums still available as of now.
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    Got my medium stealth CF 8.0 today.

    Im 56.5 and the fit is perfect. Im coming from a small Giant Stance 2. Interestingly enough, the standover height (based on where my junk touches the top tube) is lower on the medium Spectral than a small giant stance.

    Seat tube slammed all the way down with the rear reflector removed and 150mm Reverb is perfect, with my biking shoes on (flats). I have a 30 inseam. Very happy to see the 1x southpaw remote instead of the plunger remote. I do have to say that the Giants TranzX dropper post has a smoother operation, altough it does have 50mm less travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targnik View Post
    Enjoying all the pics...

    Definitely getting the urge to pull the trigger on a CF 8.0 ^^

    Awesome spec for the price.

    Anyone gone from a Giant Reign, to a Spectral - want to compare their chops going down?

    A given, that Spectral will climb a lot better ;-)

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    I came from the Giant Reign 2015 M. It was gravity modified, with 170mm Fox 36 factory, coil CCDB, semi integrated headset and some other parts that made it a little bit of freeride bike. It was "lazy", but on the other hand a real "plow".
    Now I have the new Spectral AL 6 in size L (ai am about 181 cm tall) and even it felt a bit large for my taste at the first ride, I have to say that now it feels very live and twitchy. I was worried about migration from 160mm of rear travel on coil to 140mm on air, bit can confirm the Canyon's marketing statements about new achievements on rear kinematics. I have also bought the new Torque AL 6 in size L that is even larger. I feels like Reign, but gives alot of confidence with its roomy cockpit, does the rough parts as good as did my Reign and evem better, but still feels alive. After some rides with Torque, the Spectral seems a bit small and I can not believe how was I able to ride on Medium Reign.

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    Was waiting for Red to come back in stock but that Stealth color is nice too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEOH6 View Post
    Got my medium stealth CF 8.0 today.

    Im 56.5 and the fit is perfect. Im coming from a small Giant Stance 2. Interestingly enough, the standover height (based on where my junk touches the top tube) is lower on the medium Spectral than a small giant stance.

    Seat tube slammed all the way down with the rear reflector removed and 150mm Reverb is perfect, with my biking shoes on (flats). I have a 30 inseam. Very happy to see the 1x southpaw remote instead of the plunger remote. I do have to say that the Giants TranzX dropper post has a smoother operation, altough it does have 50mm less travel.
    Aw man! I got the plunger with my Medium CF 8.0!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEOH6 View Post
    Got my medium stealth CF 8.0 today.

    Im 56.5 and the fit is perfect. Im coming from a small Giant Stance 2. Interestingly enough, the standover height (based on where my junk touches the top tube) is lower on the medium Spectral than a small giant stance.

    Seat tube slammed all the way down with the rear reflector removed and 150mm Reverb is perfect, with my biking shoes on (flats). I have a 30 inseam. Very happy to see the 1x southpaw remote instead of the plunger remote. I do have to say that the Giants TranzX dropper post has a smoother operation, altough it does have 50mm less travel.

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    What year small Stance 2 did you have? Can you compare in a little detail on the fit and sizing of the Spectral compared to the Small Stance 2? I am going crazy trying to decide between a S or M Spectral. Canyon's sizing guide says I should go with a small due to my height of 5'6" and 30 inseam, and on some bikes a small feels great but I'm coming from a M Fuse (that might have been a tad big) and have demo'd a M Stumpy ST and Comp and a M (17.5) Trek Fuel 5 and those felt great too. I also recently took a small Giant Stance 2 for a parking lot spin and it felt great too (maybe a little small? or it could have just been in my head). My head is spinning trying to decide between a Small or Medium. Any input on sizing and fitment would be greatly appreciated.

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    I placed an order for a Small Spectral AL 6.0 in Red yesterday. I too was torn between ordering a small and medium size frame. I'm 5'6" with a 30" inseam and spoke to both a friend who is a mechanic for Canyon as well as the sales guy who helped with my order and they both said that the Small is the correct size. Part of the rational was that if I went with the medium, I would be slamming the dropper post and the reach would be too long and I would need a shorter stem.

    I should receive the bike on Friday afternoon so I'll give you guys an update after I go on my first test ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonv View Post
    What year small Stance 2 did you have? Can you compare in a little detail on the fit and sizing of the Spectral compared to the Small Stance 2? I am going crazy trying to decide between a S or M Spectral. Canyon's sizing guide says I should go with a small due to my height of 5'6" and 30 inseam, and on some bikes a small feels great but I'm coming from a M Fuse (that might have been a tad big) and have demo'd a M Stumpy ST and Comp and a M (17.5) Trek Fuel 5 and those felt great too. I also recently took a small Giant Stance 2 for a parking lot spin and it felt great too (maybe a little small? or it could have just been in my head). My head is spinning trying to decide between a Small or Medium. Any input on sizing and fitment would be greatly appreciated.
    2018 Stance

    The stance feels good but the reach was to close. Found myself having to tuck my knee quite a bit during turn and I feel perched up higher on the Stance. The taller stack on the Med Spectral feels great, I dont feel hunched over.

    I was concerned about the seat height but with it all the way down and with my Specialized 2FO shoes on, its perfect. With the seatpost slammed and the dropper all the way down, both my feet are flat footed on the ground.

    I think a med will fit you a lot better especially since you felt the stances cockpit was a bit tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Anyone know what the internal width of the rims that come on the spectral AL?
    Looks like the DT swiss 1900 or 1700 spline 30 rims are 30mm internal/35 external

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damus View Post
    I placed an order for a Small Spectral AL 6.0 in Red yesterday. I too was torn between ordering a small and medium size frame. I'm 5'6" with a 30" inseam and spoke to both a friend who is a mechanic for Canyon as well as the sales guy who helped with my order and they both said that the Small is the correct size. Part of the rational was that if I went with the medium, I would be slamming the dropper post and the reach would be too long and I would need a shorter stem.

    I should receive the bike on Friday afternoon so I'll give you guys an update after I go on my first test ride.
    Looks like we are the same height and inseam. Would love to hear your thoughts on the small when you get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEOH6 View Post
    2018 Stance

    The stance feels good but the reach was to close. Found myself having to tuck my knee quite a bit during turn and I feel perched up higher on the Stance. The taller stack on the Med Spectral feels great, I dont feel hunched over.

    I was concerned about the seat height but with it all the way down and with my Specialized 2FO shoes on, its perfect. With the seatpost slammed and the dropper all the way down, both my feet are flat footed on the ground.

    I think a med will fit you a lot better especially since you felt the stances cockpit was a bit tight.
    So I just took the small 2018 Stance 2 out for a quick spin and it did feel really good and I thought it might have been almost the right fit but now that you point it out I did feel like I was on top of the bike or perched higher and my knee was close to the bars when turning, and might have felt a hair small when moving around on it or aggressively riding it. Is this how you felt with the stance?

    The only Medium bike they had was a Giant Fathom 29er that I took out for a spin. That bike at first felt a little big when I first hopped on but maybe because I got used to the small stance? I definitely could tell the M FatHom was bigger, i felt i was more stretch out and forward and felt i was more in the bike than on top as like with the small Stance. Just don't want to get the M when Canyon recommends the S and then always wonder what if and should have gotten the small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonv View Post
    So I just took the small 2018 Stance 2 out for a quick spin and it did feel really good and I thought it might have been almost the right fit but now that you point it out I did feel like I was on top of the bike or perched higher and my knee was close to the bars when turning, and might have felt a hair small when moving around on it or aggressively riding it. Is this how you felt with the stance?
    Yep thats how I felt. The low speed tight technical handling was when the handlebars would get close to the knees and make it difficult to manuever. The larger medium spectral actually allows me to make tight turn easier because its easier to move the bar around unimpeded. I think if the stack was taller on the small stance to to clear the knees and make me feel less perched on the bike, it probably wouldnt bother me at all. Now thinking about that, i think the small spectral would still alleviate that since the stack is like 24mm higher than the stance. Itd probably work out fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draven23 View Post
    Aw man! I got the plunger with my Medium CF 8.0!
    Yeah...
    I didn't see the 1x remote in the spec for any of the models, although there was one on the CF 9 Pro I rode at Sea Otter

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    A 750ml water bottle fits in the Med frame with a sideloading Specialized Zee cage. The shock moves up when the rear suspension compresses so it wont touch when riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEOH6 View Post
    A 750ml water bottle fits in the Med frame with a sideloading Specialized Zee cage. The shock moves up when the rear suspension compresses so it wont touch when riding.
    Thanks for the details!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeggs1993 View Post
    Yeah...
    I didn't see the 1x remote in the spec for any of the models, although there was one on the CF 9 Pro I rode at Sea Otter
    I got the 1x remote! Woot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrube View Post
    I got the 1x remote! Woot!
    Grats

    A few tips on torque wrenches, if you are new to them like me.
    1. I hadn't thought about threadlock lubricating a bolt enough to alter the torque wrench reading
    2. the distinction between max and recommended torque is a simple enough one that I should have thought of... not sure what canyon prints on the bikes, or if they agree that you should go 20% under a max torque

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    Just put together and it looks awesome.
    Definitely an upgrade from my Giant Trance X.

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    I got my new 8.0 on Monday. Ordered Friday and delivered in 2 days. I'm only a 4 hours drive from their warehouse though.

    Question for other people with the dt Swiss hubs. Does your cassette just pull right off?

    I switched to tubeless yesterday and it just slide right onto the floor. My road bike has a locking ring.

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    Anybody put a bash guard on yet? What "type"/model, etc...

    I'm definitely going to lower the tooth count on the front since I am old, fat, and out of shape, this would be a good time to add one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopaWeelie View Post
    Just put together and it looks awesome.2
    Definitely an upgrade from my Giant Trance X.

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    Looks really nice, mine comes Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrube View Post
    Anybody put a bash guard on yet? What "type"/model, etc...

    I'm definitely going to lower the tooth count on the front since I am old, fat, and out of shape, this would be a good time to add one.
    When is comes to bash gaurds they all work pretty good a popular one is the MRP XCg V2. One up also makes a nice one for the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    When is comes to bash gaurds they all work pretty good a popular one is the MRP XCg V2. One up also makes a nice one for the money
    Which type mount? ISCG-05? I didn't notice any bolts down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrube View Post
    Which type mount? ISCG-05? I didn't notice any bolts down there.
    In this article: https://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/a...st-look-51635/ says:
    "On the negative side, there are no ISCG-05 tabs around the bottom bracket. That means any sort of chain guide will be hard to fit."

    I also want to put a bash guard... but I dont know how...

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    Hi guys
    Just bought a Spectral AL 6.0 and noticed the rear suspension makes a wired noise each time I compress it when on the bike. Do you have that as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf33d View Post
    Hi guys
    Just bought a Spectral AL 6.0 and noticed the rear suspension makes a wired noise each time I compress it when on the bike. Do you have that as well?
    Not me.
    Is it the actual suspension/pivots or rear shock?

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    TL;DR: The large Spectral 6 fits my 5'10" body better than the medium. I'm keeping the large and sending the medium back.

    I'm 5'10". Canyon's fit computer said I needed a medium (but if I change some parameters by .25", it says I need a large. The numbers I input into the computer were height=70", inseam=33.75", torso=24", shoulder=17 3/4", arm=26 3/4"). So I ordered a medium, and it arrived a week ago.

    The medium felt too small. I had the seat slammed all the way back and wished it would go back farther. My knees felt too close to the bars.

    So I ordered a large. It arrived yesterday. It felt better. The medium felt too small, but the large did not feel too big. I was afraid the 150mm dropper on the large would raise the seat too high at full extension, but surprisingly it's just about right (I do have the dropper slammed all the way down into the seat tube). My knees do not feel like they are going to hit the bars.

    I took the large out on my favorite local trail today. It felt just right. I'm keeping the large and sending the medium back.

    I'm attaching a few photos of the bikes side by side (why not?). And for what it's worth, my daughter snapped a few photos of me sitting on each bike; you can see those here (Google Photos). They kind-of show the fitment differences.

    Upgrades so far: tubeless, Race Face Chester pedals (actually, the off-brand knock-offs), Ergon GA3 grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopaWeelie View Post
    Not me.
    Is it the actual suspension/pivots or rear shock?
    It is from the rear rockshox shock. I have a similar noise like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B78wfcSxBN8

    Maybe a little less loud.

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    Spent some time on setup today. I am 510, 225. Seat post about 3/4 out feels right for now.

    98lbs in the fork, -7 clicks on rebound. This gets me in the 25%+ range. Lacking direction, I set LSC mid range, about 9 clicks out.

    If anybody has a link to a Shock tunng guide for this bike, please post. The Rockshock guide was not a lot of help, probably due to the various suspensions it can be used on. I set Sag somewhere between 25 and 30% with 250psi. I set the rebound flat spot straight forward. Will go from there. Not sure when I will get a good ride, work takes me out of town all week.

    Coming from a Spec Epic with 100mm and the Brain, so not sure what this setup should feel like, guess I will play with it until it feels right, though I am sure it will be night and day plush.

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    Did you have to sign for your bike when FedEx dropped it off?

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    Yes, I had to sign for the bikes when FedEx delivered them.

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    I chose the hold at Fedex location when you get on to the tracking number page. Mines like 4 miles away so Id rather just pick it up first thing in the morning rather that wait till the evening for delivery.
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    Well it arrived today, shortly after I posted my last message...lol

    I got it all together in about 30 minutes and cant say enough how great Canyon packed this bike.

    After I got it all together I went out for a quick spin, it rained last so I took an easy ride on it. It definitely is a fun and poppy bike, something I have been looking for in a long time.

    I would have to say for the value this is an amazing bike with what comes on it, My Spot Mayhem frame cost 3100...lol

    I weighed it without pedals and it came out to a tad over 30lbs for a size large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrube View Post
    98lbs in the fork, -7 clicks on rebound. This gets me in the 25%+ range. Lacking direction, I set LSC mid range, about 9 clicks out.

    If anybody has a link to a Shock tunng guide for this bike, please post. The Rockshock guide was not a lot of help, probably due to the various suspensions it can be used on. I set Sag somewhere between 25 and 30% with 250psi. I set the rebound flat spot straight forward.
    I'm not sure if you are asking about the rear shock or front, so I will post both.

    Rear (Rockshox):
    I found the manual hard to follow until I watched the video. The manual may have more detailed steps, in the pictures at least. The Delux RT comes stock with Solo Air, so the starting sag recommendation is 25% from the manual.


    Fork (Rockshox)
    It sounds like you may have already found the Rockshox Trailhead webpage, which gives you starting pressure and rebound numbers, given your fork serial number and geared rider weight. I haven't seen a fork sag recommendation from Rockshox, so I just went with the rough 25% reading I got after using the Trailhead numbers, as it is in the ballpark of fork sag numbers I have heard before, and depends on preference +/- 5%.

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    Thanks for the info! Super helpful.

    So I found the 2 gray tokens for the fork, and will wait to add those until flyer I see if I bottom out.

    There is is small metal ring in there too. Not sure what it is. By the size of it, could be for the shock, seat post, or stem... Did not see a reference to it in any of the lit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrube View Post
    Thanks for the info! Super helpful.

    So I found the 2 gray tokens for the fork, and will wait to add those until flyer I see if I bottom out.

    There is is small metal ring in there too. Not sure what it is. By the size of it, could be for the shock, seat post, or stem... Did not see a reference to it in any of the lit.
    Im with you I have no clue what that small metal rink is for, Only think I could think of is a spacer for the stem.
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    Hi everyone,

    I am currently waiting for the AL 6.0 Medium Hellfire Red to come back in stock to place my order. Very pumped!

    My question is where are some of you getting the mudguard on the front fork with the Canyon logo? Is it an add on item selectable when you place the order?

    Also, I have been going back and forth on fit and found this thread very helpful to make a final decision. I am 57 with a 31.8 inseam so I was in between a S and M. I called Canyon twice and read this thread and I am confident a Medium will fit fine.

    Thanks!

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    The Canyon mudguard is in the accessories section as an add on.

    Im the same height as you with a little shorter inseam on a medium. You'll fit perfectly on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Blister View Post
    TL;DR: The large Spectral 6 fits my 5'10" body better than the medium. I'm keeping the large and sending the medium back.

    I'm 5'10". Canyon's fit computer said I needed a medium (but if I change some parameters by .25", it says I need a large. The numbers I input into the computer were height=70", inseam=33.75", torso=24", shoulder=17 3/4", arm=26 3/4"). So I ordered a medium, and it arrived a week ago.

    The medium felt too small. I had the seat slammed all the way back and wished it would go back farther. My knees felt too close to the bars.

    So I ordered a large. It arrived yesterday. It felt better. The medium felt too small, but the large did not feel too big. I was afraid the 150mm dropper on the large would raise the seat too high at full extension, but surprisingly it's just about right (I do have the dropper slammed all the way down into the seat tube). My knees do not feel like they are going to hit the bars.

    I took the large out on my favorite local trail today. It felt just right. I'm keeping the large and sending the medium back.

    I'm attaching a few photos of the bikes side by side (why not?). And for what it's worth, my daughter snapped a few photos of me sitting on each bike; you can see those here (Google Photos). They kind-of show the fitment differences.

    Upgrades so far: tubeless, Race Face Chester pedals (actually, the off-brand knock-offs), Ergon GA3 grips.

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    Great write up for sizing, but wish it was for a Medium vs a Small for my sake I like how you included pictures for reference and gave your thoughts on why you went with a certain size. Kudos to you!

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    I received my small Spectral AL 6.0 on Friday. Took me about an hour to build the bike and to get it tuned and adjusted properly. Took it on two short rides this weekend. At first it felt a little small but once the trail started to pointed downhill and became more technical, I had a really fun time on the bike. The smaller geometry made the bike feel a lot more playful and agile and it felt great on the flowy trails I got to test it out on. As of now, I plan on keeping the Small even though the Medium would have probably worked as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonv View Post
    Great write up for sizing, but wish it was for a Medium vs a Small for my sake
    For me, @Big_Blister pointed out a key point - Slamming the seat Back.
    Sure, you can run off-set seatposts or swap stems...but only to a point.

    With saddle time, It doesn't take long to identify what frame size fits.
    My preferred reach is 450, with means a Large would be a better fit over a Medium.

    If you haven't already done so, I would recommend you make some frame sizing notes.
    You will identify what measurements work for you (either from your bike or bikes you've demo'd).

    I've compromised with poor fitting bikes in the past...will not make that mistake again

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_manny View Post
    With saddle time, It doesn't take long to identify what frame size fits.
    My preferred reach is 450, with means a Large would be a better fit over a Medium.
    I'm same height and also want at least 450 reach, then saw you have an inseam over 2 inches beyond mine. its really hard to find a bike that will fit, large seat tubes plus bigger dropped make large a huge jump in size. Looking now like I'll go for the marin B17. Less travel, slightly bigger tyres, but I can fit on a large comfortably

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    My KS Lev dropper remote ("Southpaw" paddle) broke on my second ride. It snapped between the lever body and the barrel adjuster. It's held together with Gorilla tape for now.

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    Quick comment on swapping over the tires to tubeless. I have never had a tubeless swap go so smooth! They snapped in, and not a drop of seepage out the sidewalls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStrube View Post
    Quick comment on swapping over the tires to tubeless. I have never had a tubeless swap go so smooth! They snapped in, and not a drop of seepage out the sidewalls.
    My front wheel was really easy too!. i pumped manually. But for the rear wheel i needed a compressor, also didnt drop of seepage. very happy too :-)

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    I had a little sealant come through the wheel weld...Im building some XM481's just because I know they are much stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nusckas View Post
    My front wheel was really easy too!. i pumped manually. But for the rear wheel i needed a compressor, also didnt drop of seepage. very happy too :-)
    I had a similar experience, although I didn't break out our compressor, as I didn't want to make a bunch of noise at night. Instead, I took the removable valve core out of the tubeless valve, sort of seated the bead with my hands around almost half the wheel (the half centered on the valve), and then used my track pump to seat it. Then I injected the sealant into the open valve core after letting all the air out (so I didn't have to take the bead off and then back on again).

    I suspect the rear was harder for me because I had previously taken the tire off a couple times due to a nasty puncture when I was running tubes; I had a stick go right through the tire and tube, causing a 1/4" hole in the tire, which I later patched inside and vulcanizing glue on the outside... we'll see if it holds up. I didn't want to replace the tire after only a couple rides on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Im with you I have no clue what that small metal rink is for, Only think I could think of is a spacer for the stem.
    I'd like to know what this is for too.

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    My CF 8.0 in Medium arrived a week ago. So far, I have only been on it for 1.5 hours. It's a major step up from my 2006 Stumpjumper FSR Comp. I still need to dial in the shocks but that'll be a work in progress as I start to take it on my local trails.

    It was configured like Dragonv's rig in that it was not fully stealthy because the Pike stickers were white instead of what was shown on the website. However, mines was outfitted with the Deluxe RT3, not the Deluxe RT!

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    My CF 8.0 has the RT3 as well. Maybe the website is outdated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEOH6 View Post
    The Canyon mudguard is in the accessories section as an add on.

    Im the same height as you with a little shorter inseam on a medium. You'll fit perfectly on it.
    Ugh. I am sitting here late at night with a S in my cart too.

    I measured my height (with riding shoes) several times and got pretty much 67.25" every time. Without riding shoes I'm back in Small territory according the Canyon size calculator at 66.75". Also I believe I have an inseam closer to 31.25 - 31.5".

    So my riding buddies have a YT Capra Medium and a Vitus Sommet Medium, and they let me ride both extensively. Those bikes felt pretty good. Maybe a little big, but not in a bad way. The Capra especially was great on the DH, and I could still throw it around fine. It was a real pig to pedal uphill though haha (IMO).

    I just see the Spectral geometry numbers and it looks 'bigger' than the M Capra, on paper anyways, and am a little hesitant.

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    touch-up and another ride

    So I ended up touching up the paint-chips on the bottom of the chainstay with some nail polish that I brought at the dollar store. The paint didn't match very well but at least it's protected now. Still would like to clean it up with a proper match so if anyone finds a good color match for the hellfire red in either nailpolish or touch-up paint please post your results.

    Been hitting the right rear seatstay with my shoe on occasion when I'm running clipless... anyone else having an issue with this? Have my cleats all the way in (pushing the shoe all the way out away from the bike) so i guess I'll have to try and add some angle to it. Doesn't happen when running flats. After some minor adjustments pedal/crank strikes have dissapeared when I'm running clipless.

    Set a PR over a 30 minute section on a local trail yesterday. Very happy about this since I'm still out of shape from the winter. I'm able to get some nice flow with this bike but tight trees force me to proceed a little more cautiously due to the wide bars. I think I'm going to have to switch to thicker grips cause after about 1.5 hours or riding my hands were starting to tingle. Will likely switch over to tubeless for my next ride. Looking forward to see how different it feels. Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    So I ended up touching up the paint-chips on the bottom of the chainstay with some nail polish that I brought at the dollar store. The paint didn't match very well but at least it's protected now. Still would like to clean it up with a proper match so if anyone finds a good color match for the hellfire red in either nailpolish or touch-up paint please post your results.

    Been hitting the right rear seatstay with my shoe on occasion when I'm running clipless... anyone else having an issue with this? Have my cleats all the way in (pushing the shoe all the way out away from the bike) so i guess I'll have to try and add some angle to it. Doesn't happen when running flats. After some minor adjustments pedal/crank strikes have dissapeared when I'm running clipless.

    Set a PR over a 30 minute section on a local trail yesterday. Very happy about this since I'm still out of shape from the winter. I'm able to get some nice flow with this bike but tight trees force me to proceed a little more cautiously due to the wide bars. I think I'm going to have to switch to thicker grips cause after about 1.5 hours or riding my hands were starting to tingle. Will likely switch over to tubeless for my next ride. Looking forward to see how different it feels. Peace!
    Thats funny my feet are always all over the place when I run flats and thats when I start rubbing...

    I could only take so much with the stock seat, switched over to my Ergon and much happier, I also stole my cockpit off of my Mayhem...Next R 35 Bars, Turbine 35 stem and ODI Rogue grips. Im more than likely going to sell the Mayhem so the Turbine cranks will get swapped over to the Spectral someday.
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    Just a warring for Spectral users. As I have predicted the cable cover is already damaged in one place, the frame paint is damaged from rocks just where the plastic cover ends but the important thing is that the cables that stick out underneath the bike are also damaged. My rear brake cable has already some 0.5mm of material taken from it by rocks hitting it and all that happens in about ~100km of riding in mountains.
    The cables needs some kind of guard or the rear brake cable will be eventually destroyed on one of the downhills. This is dangerous.
    I really cant imagine that somebody rode this bike in mountains before it went into production...
    Canyon if you read this the bike cable routing needs a fix.

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    No ISCG05 mount??

    I just got my Spectral CF and was very surprised to see that the frame does no have any ISCG05 mount!

    I'm now looking into trying to find a pressfit BB ISCG05 mount, but not sure if any will fit.

    I've been running NW rings for years, but I've had my chain fall off from time to time, so I got myself the tiny OneUp guide and never had an issue since. Chain retention is highly dependent on how much wear there is on your ring and chain, so as time goes by, you are more likely to drop.

    Seems like a huge oversight to me. Anyone have any issues with chain drop yet?

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    Anyone with the CF 9.0 SL?

    And the DT SWISS XMC 1200 wheelset?

    Can you confirm that the hubs are centerlock, and that the rotors are using a centerlock-to-6bolt adapter?

    Pretty sure this wheelset only comes in centerlock, but can't tell from the photos to be certain.

    TIA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    I just got my Spectral CF and was very surprised to see that the frame does no have any ISCG05 mount!

    I'm now looking into trying to find a pressfit BB ISCG05 mount, but not sure if any will fit.

    I've been running NW rings for years, but I've had my chain fall off from time to time, so I got myself the tiny OneUp guide and never had an issue since. Chain retention is highly dependent on how much wear there is on your ring and chain, so as time goes by, you are more likely to drop.

    Seems like a huge oversight to me. Anyone have any issues with chain drop yet?
    I've yet to drop a chain but I was doing some research and Pivot made a mount for there older bikes that had the same problem, I found one on the cheap on Ebay and will give it a shot, I will let you know how it works out once I get it.

    Some other information I have been looking for is what size is the Shock on the spectral?
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    This is how specialized bikes handle routing as well (or did in the past; I haven't checked lately). There is a section of cable that hangs under the bb, and it needs to be slack enough that it can take up the full motion of the suspension. I smashed a derailleur cable on an epic year's ago because of this design.

    Also I'm not surprised to hear about the damaged cover. The plastic seems very thin and brittle, unlike other guards I've had experience with that were much thicker and pliable.

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    Thanks for checking that out for us. I also read about that one, but it looked a bit bulky. There are other ones available as well. One from cSixx shows a 47mm diameter adapter that looks like it would work. Only issue I am concerned with is the very slight taper at the edge of the bottom bracket shell; it's not perfectly flat so I am wondering if it would be secure enough once installed.

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    My Spectral Al 6 (Medium) is ordered! There seem to be one or two examples popping up late at night on the website, despite the "coming soon" message...so keep and eye out. The last time I called Canyon for status they mentioned June 6 for a restock date, but that this final batch would be "smaller" in quantity...

    So I too am interested in fitting a bash guard/chain device, and I was going to suggest the cSixx adaptor. Like was mentioned, the 47mm option would likely work, but there is a 44mm size as well.

    Would someone be able to quickly measure the BB width to confirm?

    The shipping is also $25 from South Africa lol, so I would rather not have to send this part back if it is the wrong size!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I've yet to drop a chain but I was doing some research and Pivot made a mount for there older bikes that had the same problem, I found one on the cheap on Ebay and will give it a shot, I will let you know how it works out once I get it.

    Some other information I have been looking for is what size is the Shock on the spectral?
    Which Bucksaw do you have? Can you compare it for me pleeeeease? As many details as you can. I have a BS and considering a 27.5+
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    So I got the dreaded Pressfit bb creek, and today I wanted to pull off the crank and check it out, problem is the darn crank arm wont come off, I took 2 bolts off the nondrive side and most of the time cranks just pop off or a little tap of a rubber mallet they will just pop off, not these guys. Am I missing a third bolt or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    So I got the dreaded Pressfit bb creek, and today I wanted to pull off the crank and check it out, problem is the darn crank arm wont come off, I took 2 bolts off the nondrive side and most of the time cranks just pop off or a little tap of a rubber mallet they will just pop off, not these guys. Am I missing a third bolt or something?
    Which cranks do you have? Assuming SRAM/Truvativ, you took off too many bolts

    There should be a larger outer hex key fastener. This one captures the center bolt and lets it act as an extractor as you loosen the inner one. So, put the center bolt back in. Put the outer fastener back in, then loosen the center one and it should pull the arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nermiez View Post
    My Spectral Al 6 (Medium) is ordered! There seem to be one or two examples popping up late at night on the website, despite the "coming soon" message...so keep and eye out. The last time I called Canyon for status they mentioned June 6 for a restock date, but that this final batch would be "smaller" in quantity...

    So I too am interested in fitting a bash guard/chain device, and I was going to suggest the cSixx adaptor. Like was mentioned, the 47mm option would likely work, but there is a 44mm size as well.

    Would someone be able to quickly measure the BB width to confirm?

    The shipping is also $25 from South Africa lol, so I would rather not have to send this part back if it is the wrong size!
    I measured the outer diameter of the BB shell (on my CF) to be just under 47mm, so assuming the cSixx is measured based on internal diameter, the 47mm would be the right size. However, their example photo shows the adapter sitting inwards about 3-5mm or so from the outer edge of the shell, which I am not sure I have enough space for on my frame.

    If we can mount it closer to the outer edge and still have it work and not interfere with the chainring, then I think we've got a solution. I sent them an email about this and will report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    Which cranks do you have? Assuming SRAM/Truvativ, you took off too many bolts

    There should be a larger outer hex key fastener. This one captures the center bolt and lets it act as an extractor as you loosen the inner one. So, put the center bolt back in. Put the outer fastener back in, then loosen the center one and it should pull the arm.
    Your a genius...im so used to my older cranks

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Your a genius...im so used to my older cranks
    Yes, that's it. I'm a genius. It's definitely not that I did the same thing as you and then hunted the directions down online as I scratched my head in bewilderment. The genius option

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    I measured the outer diameter of the BB shell (on my CF) to be just under 47mm, so assuming the cSixx is measured based on internal diameter, the 47mm would be the right size. However, their example photo shows the adapter sitting inwards about 3-5mm or so from the outer edge of the shell, which I am not sure I have enough space for on my frame.

    If we can mount it closer to the outer edge and still have it work and not interfere with the chainring, then I think we've got a solution. I sent them an email about this and will report back.

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    update: So I checked the ISCG tabs on my previous bike (Norco range), and the tabs are indeed inset by about as much as what is shown in the cSixx image. There's not enough room to mount the adapter inwards and still account for the thickness of the adapter itself, but I found another mount on eBay that appears to be much thinner, and the clamp section where it is thickest is located on the underside of the BB, so there shouldn't be any spacing issues there.

    What I am thinking is that instead of mounting the guide to the adapter on the front side, mount it to the back side instead. As long as the adapter clears your chainring, I think it will work, but may need a few washers for spacing the adapter correctly.

    Anyone wanna try it? $35 to USA from China:

    Fifty-Fifty ISCG Pressfit ISCG adapter: https://goo.gl/R4anJr

    update #2:

    OK, I heard back from cSixx (great support btw):

    "Our clamp requires a flat surface to mount on as well as being able to move it inboard of the bearing cup. You may be able to move it further out by running a flat(0mm offset) chainring to get enough clearance, but I wouldn't recommend that."

    I will give the Spectral a few runs and see how the chain holds on, then decide if I want to try the 50-50 adapter I mentioned previously. The Dudes of Hazzard sure ride pretty aggressively in Canyon's videos, and since they apparently had input on the design, maybe they had good luck with chain retention.
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    hi,

    Im interested in the spectral triangular frame cage. I asked Canyon for avaliability but they didnt know when will be available. Someone has tried the Specialized MTB XC Swat Box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michal View Post
    Just a warring for Spectral users. As I have predicted the cable cover is already damaged in one place, the frame paint is damaged from rocks just where the plastic cover ends but the important thing is that the cables that stick out underneath the bike are also damaged. My rear brake cable has already some 0.5mm of material taken from it by rocks hitting it and all that happens in about ~100km of riding in mountains.
    The cables needs some kind of guard or the rear brake cable will be eventually destroyed on one of the downhills. This is dangerous.
    I really cant imagine that somebody rode this bike in mountains before it went into production...
    Canyon if you read this the bike cable routing needs a fix.
    On my CF, I found an extra port, located on the non-drive side towards the bottom of the down tube. It was covered by a plastic grommet. Once removed, and with the bottom routing cover removed, I also found a few more holes close to the internal seatpost cable hole. I routed by brake line through one of those holes, and out the newly discovered port. I will post a pic later, but with this routing, the brake line no longer hangs beneath the frame. Unfortunately, there is no additional port on the drive-side for the shifter cable, so it still hangs underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    update: So I checked the ISCG tabs on my previous bike (Norco range), and the tabs are indeed inset by about as much as what is shown in the cSixx image. There's not enough room to mount the adapter inwards and still account for the thickness of the adapter itself, but I found another mount on eBay that appears to be much thinner, and the clamp section where it is thickest is located on the underside of the BB, so there shouldn't be any spacing issues there.

    What I am thinking is that instead of mounting the guide to the adapter on the front side, mount it to the back side instead. As long as the adapter clears your chainring, I think it will work, but may need a few washers for spacing the adapter correctly.

    Anyone wanna try it? $35 to USA from China:

    Fifty-Fifty ISCG Pressfit ISCG adapter: https://goo.gl/R4anJr

    update #2:

    OK, I heard back from cSixx (great support btw):

    "Our clamp requires a flat surface to mount on as well as being able to move it inboard of the bearing cup. You may be able to move it further out by running a flat(0mm offset) chainring to get enough clearance, but I wouldn't recommend that."

    I will give the Spectral a few runs and see how the chain holds on, then decide if I want to try the 50-50 adapter I mentioned previously. The Dudes of Hazzard sure ride pretty aggressively in Canyon's videos, and since they apparently had input on the design, maybe they had good luck with chain retention.
    The mount from a older mach 5 i bought did not work, problem is it's to thick, I think that eBay could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    The mount from a older mach 5 i bought did not work, problem is it's to thick, I think that eBay could work.
    Something interesting I found out is that the YT Jeffsy, which this bike is often compared to, doesn't have ISCG mounts on the 29" size, but does on the 27.5" size.

    And YT actually makes an ISCG adapter for the Tues and Capra models (likely for their first release models that didn't have them for some odd reason):

    https://goo.gl/Z9eukQ

    But YT's one also looks a little thick, so might not work either.

    Oh well. Maybe we'll deal with this if/when it actually becomes a problem! I'll be sure to report back with any updates. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    Something interesting I found out is that the YT Jeffsy, which this bike is often compared to, doesn't have ISCG mounts on the 29" size, but does on the 27.5" size.

    And YT actually makes an ISCG adapter for the Tues and Capra models (likely for their first release models that didn't have them for some odd reason):

    https://goo.gl/Z9eukQ

    But YT's one also looks a little thick, so might not work either.

    Oh well. Maybe we'll deal with this if/when it actually becomes a problem! I'll be sure to report back with any updates. Good luck!
    That's interesting, maybe Canyon will come out with there own mount one day. I've already tweaked my chainring from hopping over logs, it has a slight wave to it, the BB on this bike is the lowest I've had on a bike to date.

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    Anyone else crack their 2018 AL Spectrals yet? Saw one guy cracked a chain stay and I have a small crack on my seatstay where it meets the shock linkage....very thin in that area. No word from Canyon for over 4 days which is frustrating.

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    Went for a longer ride yesterday... maybe 1.5 hours total, and my hands were really starting to bother me. Are you guys finding the stock grips less-than average or is it something messed up with my setup? I have my brake and shift levers mounted where they're in-line with my arms so should be good there. Compared to my fatbike I noticed I have the bars lower in relation to the seat... maybe I need to move the handlebars up? Only other differences are the grips (I have ODI Rogues on the FB) and the handlebars on the Spectral are much wider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    Anyone else crack their 2018 AL Spectrals yet? Saw one guy cracked a chain stay and I have a small crack on my seatstay where it meets the shock linkage....very thin in that area. No word from Canyon for over 4 days which is frustrating.
    Outch, that sucks. Can you post some pictures? I'd give them a call if you haven't tried that route. Much faster response and they're usually quick to pull up your email when you call them. I haven't had to talk to them in the last couple of months so unsure if wait times have gotten worse but I've never had to wait more than 10 minutes... not a big deal to throw them on the speakerphone while doing something else during the wait-time. Hope they get your sorted.

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    I don't know if that was me (us), but Canyon very quickly warrantied it, and went (in my opinion) well beyond the call of duty in doing so. I am very impressed with their after-sale customer service.

    Yes, we wound up changing out the stock grips for Ergons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegaman007 View Post
    Went for a longer ride yesterday... maybe 1.5 hours total, and my hands were really starting to bother me. Are you guys finding the stock grips less-than average or is it something messed up with my setup? I have my brake and shift levers mounted where they're in-line with my arms so should be good there. Compared to my fatbike I noticed I have the bars lower in relation to the seat... maybe I need to move the handlebars up? Only other differences are the grips (I have ODI Rogues on the FB) and the handlebars on the Spectral are much wider.
    The stock grips are quite skinny, IMO. I put Ergon GA3s on my Spectral right out of the box (I'm prone to "trigger finger" if I ride skinny grips for too long).

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    Found the stock grip thin as well. I wear medium gloves so no giant mitts here.

    Swapped them out with some Specialized Enduro grips and they feel much better.
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    I put my ODI grips on with raceface carbon bar. Much happier.

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    Anybody else getting a major creeking noise while pedaling hard? I'm not sure if it's the BB, a pivot bearing or chainring

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    Does the creeking noise come even if you are in standing position while pedaling?

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    CF 9.0 LTD custom build w/XTR

    Finally got my CF LTD built up. I know, I'm crazy and parted out the XX1 and Chris King Enve M60s, but I prefer XTR and Centerlock, so I went a bit overboard to make it happen.

    The XTR stuff is from my previous bike. I replaced the wheelset with the new Enve m630 on DT 240s centerlock. I also swapped my old tires in because they were basically new and I am used to how they perform. Might switch in the stock 2.6's to try out at some point.

    As she sits, 26.75lbs with pedals!

    Going on my maiden ride tomorrow with the ShockWiz set up front and rear (btw, if anyone wants to rent, check out my sig!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jernejk View Post
    Does the creeking noise come even if you are in standing position while pedaling?
    Yes, when I stand and pedal its worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Yes, when I stand and pedal its worse
    Mine was creaking, I washed it and it stopped. Not sure where the creaking was coming from. I suspect a pivot or the crankset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    Anyone else crack their 2018 AL Spectrals yet? Saw one guy cracked a chain stay and I have a small crack on my seatstay where it meets the shock linkage....very thin in that area. No word from Canyon for over 4 days which is frustrating.
    I have a crack in my drive side chainstay, it started on the weld and worked its way down the stay. I submitted through the website on Saturday and heard back on Tuesday with a shipping label to send in the frame for warranty. It was Memorial weekend otherwise I imagine I would have been contacted on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHerd View Post
    I have a crack in my drive side chainstay, it started on the weld and worked its way down the stay. I submitted through the website on Saturday and heard back on Tuesday with a shipping label to send in the frame for warranty. It was Memorial weekend otherwise I imagine I would have been contacted on Monday.

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    I'm still waiting for the AL 6.0 to be back on stock but I'm afraid I'll crack it myself as I am north of 200. It does not look like you hit it against anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHerd View Post
    I have a crack in my drive side chainstay, it started on the weld and worked its way down the stay. I submitted through the website on Saturday and heard back on Tuesday with a shipping label to send in the frame for warranty. It was Memorial weekend otherwise I imagine I would have been contacted on Monday.

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    Cracked mine in the same spot also. Shipped mine out today and hope it comes back soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    Cracked mine in the same spot also. Shipped mine out today and hope it comes back soon.
    How aggressive of a rider are you? Do you do jumps and drops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meSSican View Post
    Cracked mine in the same spot also. Shipped mine out today and hope it comes back soon.
    I have the same crack, how did you sent it back? full bike in the original box or just the frame on a smaller one?

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