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    2018 Spectral AL headset bearings destroyed - need a permanent fix

    After just a few rides headset bearings in my spectral started to feel harsh and one day before a ride I was not able to move the handlebars at all.

    I took it all apart and it looks like its a design with cups pressed into a frame but bearings presses into cups not dropi-in bearings so it as hard to replace as it can be. Its all badly sealed and rusted.

    Obviously I don't want any of that Acros crap anymore and it would be best to just replace the whole headset with cups but I'm not sure what will fit. There is zero information about what headset is used in the bike on canyon web page, in the bike instruction, there is no part number or a name on the headset unit etc.

    Looks like this is designed to fail prematurely and force users to buy replacements from canyon.

    I have a few questions:

    1. What replacement headset can I use if any?
    2. Is it possible to replace just the bearings without the cups?
    3. If so what is the height of the lower/upper bearing? Is it 7mm?

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    I tried to remove the bearing from the cup today but with no luck. This is how its constructed:

    2018 Spectral AL headset bearings destroyed - need a permanent fix-acros.jpg

    A and B is a bearing.
    C is a cup.
    D is a frame.

    If you try to tap on the A piece of the bearing than it will separate from B and fall of. There is no lip on the B that sticks out of the cup so it looks like this bearing cannot be separated from the cup.

    I just hope that some other headset will fit but I'm still not able to get any info on what it mounted there and what dimensions it has.

    I contacted canyon with online form and got no replay. I called them and nobody picks up the phone.. maybe their are busy designing the next generation headset..

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    I have canyon spectral CF 9.0 2018
    My headset bearings are
    Upper: hss20130k cane creek
    Lower: aaa0006k cane creek

    After almost 1.5 year and 3000 km riding in very dusty conditions, didnt have problem at all with headset
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    Thanks for reply. Was CC stock on your bike or you've replaced acros this CC?

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    This CC is my stock headset.

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    Mine came with acros. Strange I still see only acros speced on spectrals: https://www.canyon.com/en-us/mtb/spectral

    No info on the headset other that its acros on the web page and Is till got no replay from Canyon.

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    This is printscreen for each part when i ordered my bike. Unbelivable!2018 Spectral AL headset bearings destroyed - need a permanent fix-headset.jpg

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    Hey Michal, was just tearing down my headset today to inspect/regrease on my 2018 spectral al 6.0 and ran into the same issue. My lower bearing is a little stiff, and I'm starting to wonder where I will go from here. Can you share what you figured out and what Canyon finally told you (if they ever did...)?

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    I have the same problem with my Spectral Al6 2019. I found my top bearing almost siezed and very rusty and Canyon suggested I try to remove it by tapping it out using a hammer and a flat head screwdriver and they would send me new bearings under warranty.
    This resulted in the bearing splitting into two parts with the outer part still stuck in the headset cup. If anyone managed to get the whole bearing out from the plastic cup any advice would be great.

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    Contacted Canyon and got the specs to change the entire setup: Cane Creek 1 1/8 ZS44 / ZS56.
    I´m changing the whole thing. Original bearings seized after half a season..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaffemannen View Post
    I have the same problem with my Spectral Al6 2019. I found my top bearing almost siezed and very rusty and Canyon suggested I try to remove it by tapping it out using a hammer and a flat head screwdriver and they would send me new bearings under warranty.
    This resulted in the bearing splitting into two parts with the outer part still stuck in the headset cup. If anyone managed to get the whole bearing out from the plastic cup any advice would be great.
    By your name, i´ll figure you as well are from Norway. I purchased this nugget: https://www.bikester.no/bbb-cupout-b...lv-745568.html

    Slide it from the opposite side of the cup you want removed, in such a manner that the ´prongs´hit the backside of the cup. Proceed to smash the other end with a mallet
    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by birkMtb View Post
    Contacted Canyon and got the specs to change the entire setup: Cane Creek 1 1/8 ZS44 / ZS56.
    I´m changing the whole thing. Original bearings seized after half a season..
    Are those your new headset parts or the original ones that are mounted on your bike? On mine (Al6 2019) it's an Across headset but it should be the same dimensions. Please let me know how the exchange went since I will be interested in upgrading my headset as well. I'd prefer one where the bearings can be removed without involving a full body workout...

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    Quote Originally Posted by birkMtb View Post
    By your name, i´ll figure you as well are from Norway. I purchased this nugget: https://www.bikester.no/bbb-cupout-b...lv-745568.html

    Slide it from the opposite side of the cup you want removed, in such a manner that the ´prongs´hit the backside of the cup. Proceed to smash the other end with a mallet
    Good luck!
    Close, but I'm from Sweden.
    That's a good suggestion! I actually bought that exact tool last week and used it to remove my BB. I'll try it on the headset as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaffemannen View Post
    Are those your new headset parts or the original ones that are mounted on your bike? On mine (Al6 2019) it's an Across headset but it should be the same dimensions. Please let me know how the exchange went since I will be interested in upgrading my headset as well. I'd prefer one where the bearings can be removed without involving a full body workout...
    Those are not the original (Acros) parts, but quality Cane Creek Forty's, with removable bearings. They're in the mail now, so hopefully i'll get them swapped this week. Can let you know how it goes.

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    Got the old cups out. Havent put the cane creeks in, but measured it all up and it seems to fit. What I can say though is that the weather sealing is sooo superior on the cane creek forty´s! Spend the cash!!
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    Looks nice! Was it easy to mount the new ones? I think I might run my old ones through winter an celebrate spring with a new headset

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    So easy - i got a threaded 12mm rod and two plates/huge washers with nuts on either side. The lip of the cup sits on top of the frame, so no need for precision there. First I tried to 3D print guides to keep the rod centered in the headset for an even fit. This didnt pan out on the first go, but it worked fine without it. Fairly easy really. Then I dropped the bearings in after putting heaps of grease on there. Could also use the original crown race, which simplified it a lot

    Let me know if you have any questions of difficulties - happy to share from my experience

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