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    For the F29 riders

    Is there anyone who can tell me what the right-angled height is from the ground to the top of the handlebar at the stem on a C'dale F29 (Lefty) with Leonardi 110mm -20° stem, without sag of the suspension? The distance to the top of the handlebar with the stock -15° stem on the medium should be also useful.

    Thanks in advance!
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    I would like to know this too, i have an F29 carbon 3 and was thining of getting the same stem. I too have the M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woollie View Post
    I would like to know this too, i have an F29 carbon 3 and was thining of getting the same stem. I too have the M.
    In the meantime I've purchased an F29 carbon 2, and I've put a Leonardi -20° stem on it. The vertical distance from the ground to the top of the handlebar is 98 cm (38,5 inch). That's approximately 2 cm's (3/4 inch) deeper than with the original OPI -15° stem.


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    Nice one Tommieboy, so you happy you did it? prefer the position? Oh and damn fine Dale you have there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woollie View Post
    Nice one Tommieboy, so you happy you did it? prefer the position? Oh and damn fine Dale you have there
    Thanks.
    Perfect position. Love the ride!

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    Cool!

    Were both the Cannondale and Leonardi stems the same length? I'm a bit surprised that the 5 degree angle lowers the handlebar 2 cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_marsbar View Post
    Cool!

    Were both the Cannondale and Leonardi stems the same length? I'm a bit surprised that the 5 degree angle lowers the handlebar 2 cm.
    The Leonardi (-20°) is a 110 mm version, the original OPI (-15°) is a 100 mm.

    In theory...
    OPI 100 mm -15°
    sin15° x 100 = 25,8 mm drop

    Leonardi 110 mm -20°
    sin20° x 110 = 37,6 mm drop

    Leonardi 100 mm -20°
    sin20° x 100 = 34,2 mm drop

    So, in theory my Leonardi -20° 110 mm has an extra drop of 11,8 mm compares to the -15° 100 mm OPI. A 100 mm -20° version should have an extra drop of only 8,4 mm. But in practice it is more. I think the difference in construction between the two stems is the reason. Or some small deviations in the structure?

    I think in practice with the same lengths, but different angles, you gonna have a drop difference of approximately 15 mm.


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    Can i ask why you went 110mm stem rather than sticking with the 100mm matching the SI stem. Also, did you use the same internal tube (one that screws into stem from underneath)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woollie View Post
    Can i ask why you went 110mm stem rather than sticking with the 100mm matching the SI stem. Also, did you use the same internal tube (one that screws into stem from underneath)
    Because I prefer a wider and deeper position (short legs, long body).

    yes, same internal tube.

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    I have to agree with you on riding position.I'm over 50 and still much prefer the more aggressive riding position which for me always means 110mm stem "opi" and flat bar.

    Surprisingly my F29 has the same spec as my 26" Rush.Same floor to bar distant.

    What i have found is my f29 has a slightly lower bottom BB which translates to a lower saddle and lower center of gravity....Better handling is always welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird View Post
    I have to agree with you on riding position.I'm over 50 and still much prefer the more aggressive riding position which for me always means 110mm stem "opi" and flat bar.

    Surprisingly my F29 has the same spec as my 26" Rush.Same floor to bar distant.

    What i have found is my f29 has a slightly lower bottom BB which translates to a lower saddle and lower center of gravity....Better handling is always welcome
    The BB height of my 2007 Caffeine 4SL 26" is 29,8 cm. The BB height of the F29 C2 = 30,5 cm. So I'm sitting a bit higher on the 29".

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    Where can you get one of those Leonardi stems at?

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    This is the only place i know of to get them:

    LEONARDI RACING Vorbau OPI für Cannondale Lefty 214g, 147,50 €

    Think i will be getting one soon, went out today and just can't quite get the same aggressive position that i used to have. Oh and nice to know that its the same inner steerer tube thingie.

    here is my Carbon 3

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    I've bought it also over there. Quick delivery and cheaper than at the leo factory.

    LeoFactory - SHOP Online www.leowheels.it

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    Leonardi stem

    Hello, Im new to mtbr and forums in general so bear with me. I recently purchased a 2012 flash 29er and im trying to get the front end as low as possible. Id like to purchase one of those leonardi stems. I followed the link and it wasn't working. Also im in the U.S. Is there any other way to get one? Im also wondering if theres a way to shorten the lefty fork? Aren't the 26 and 29er leftys actually the same? I had a friend tell me to put a 650b wheel on the front. BB would drop a little but it kind of sounds like a good idea? What do you think?

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    For the F29 riders

    I purchased a flash a month ago, am trying to get the front lower, where can I get one this leonardi racing stem? Thank you
    Last edited by Chinoo; 03-02-2014 at 05:16 PM.

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    Hi tommieboy, congrats on the new ride! Super nice looking ride! I went with the alloy and I love it!
    I also see you have the super six evo. Was curious how you like it? If you wan't to you can pm me about it! Am looking at one and this is a MBT forum!!!
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    Finally got round to getting my Leonardi stem. Happy with it, dropped by about 10mm i guess, maybe a little modem but feels good which is what matters.



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    ^^^ Nice man!! Which of the two sites did you order from and what are the particular specs you bought?

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    I got mine from there R2-Bike and they were really good. I went for the -20 100mm version, they do a -25 which would of taken it further down, but happy how mins rides now, got another top 20 finish today and felt better on the climbs for dropping the front end a little.

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    I have a size SMALL 2014 F29 C3 on order (finally in 2014 a size small carbon 29er from C'dale!) and am expecting the same "issue" as the rest of you guys. I believe the stock OPI is -15deg x 100mm, and I think I'm going to need to go with the Leonardi stem. I have a -20deg x 110mm on my F29 Trail SL SS and it's about right, but that's a rigid fork.

    How much USD ($) did you end up spending for that Leonardi stem from R2, including shipping?

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    Hi!
    This thread might be the one thing that makes an F29 my next bike. Good info guys!

    I haven't settled on whether the Carbon 3 or the Alloy 5 is the one I will go for, but the handlebar height of the Carbon 3 seems to get just low enough if I go for the -25 degree 110mm Leonardi.

    My question then is; can this drop be achieved on the F29 alloy 5? It does not have OPI, instead a headshok steerer and stem combo. Are there headshok stems that get as low as the Leonardi for OPI?

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    Catosan - I'm not sure if Leonardi makes a non-OPI stem like that, but I know C'dale makes them down to -20 at least. I was using a standard 110 x -20 non-OPI C'dale stem on my headshock bike. I assume you could use the same thing on non-OPI Lefty as well.

    I have a new 2014 F29 Carbon 3 and have that Leonardi 110 x -20 ready to put on it. It's still in the shop getting some other mods done, but I think this stem will work well. I did ride it once when I first go it new with the stock 100 x -15 and the front end was way too high (as expected). Of course that's with all the spacers in place, so it would still go down a little lower if I took them all out, but I know it still won't be low enough. I'm not sure if I will be using any of those spacers at all with the Leonardi, but I might if it's too low. Kinda doubt it.

    The following site/store in Utah, USA has a lot of good C'dale parts, including C'dale non-OPI stems.

    Cannondale Experts | Parts, tools, + accessories for Cannondale - CannondaleExperts.com

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    Thanks for the quick reply Bones01!
    -20 combined with removing spacers should be sufficient I guess.
    Now all I have to do is decide which one to get

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