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    2021 Scalpel

    Might as well start the thread with the proper year now, right?

    Been riding the SE1 for weeks now. Came out of the box (with tubes) at 25lbs. I swapped the XT and hollowgram wheels for AXS and industry 9. Even with adding some hefty Minions (a must) and heavy post...24.9 lbs. The new SID 35mm is really stiff actually. Didn’t have high hopes, but super impressed for sure. It’s actually 100g LIGHTER than the aluminum Ocho. The SE could quite possibly come out of the box weighing almost as light as the XT Scalpel Carbon 2 XC. It still maintains that XC feel, though, even with 1° slacker angle (67°). You definitely notice the extra travel when it counts but not when it doesn’t.

    This scalpel is much more efficient than all of my others. Previous were pretty simple frame designs and relied heavily on shock tune and performance. With its Horst link, there is a lot of efficiency built into the frame design and it’s noticeable. My previous Scalpels would all get a Fox Float CTD (3 pos damping) upgrade for this reason. Climbing was not all that efficient and I certainly didn’t wanna climb locked out. This bike doesn’t need that middle platform climbing, even with the extra travel. The rear end with SID LUXE tracks very efficiently, up and down. It takes fairly decent sized drops easily without much worry. Easy to hop and clear large trees and other trail garbage bc of it’s weight. This is legitimately a very raceable XC bike.

    I chose the SE1, which is the hidden gem of the whole lineup as I’ve never really paid attention to the SE in the past. Full XT 12 speed, super light frame, carbon wheels, super light stiff SID. 120/120 at 25lbs. For $5500? And super stealthy looking paint job.








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    I love everything about this new Scalpel except the seat tube is waaaaay too long.

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    bikes look pretty good. however the geo is not as 'down country' as it could have been.
    that being said, the 100mm platform looks great!

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    2021 Scalpel

    That grey looks siiiiick! Reminds me of Audi’s “Nardo Grey” which is my favorite.


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    How's the pedal bob? At least one other review mentioned feeling some. Do you have experience riding other recent bikes to compare against?

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    Quote Originally Posted by max621 View Post
    How's the pedal bob? At least one other review mentioned feeling some. Do you have experience riding other recent bikes to compare against?
    Almost no pedal bob for me. Previously to the new Scalpel I was riding Yeti SB130 and Scalpel Si. Was so impressed with efficiency of SB130 climbing vs Scalpel Si. 2021 Scalpel design feels much more efficient than previous. Very noticeable. I spend a lot of time setting up my suspension the right way, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trauma-md View Post
    Been riding the SE1 for weeks now. Came out of the box (with tubes) at 25lbs. I swapped the XT and hollowgram wheels for AXS and industry 9.
    Nice review. Thanks for posting.
    Couple noobish to Cannondales questions for you and folks who know...

    Regarding the AI 6mm offset drivetrain:
    1. Getting new wheels built -- Would this require a specialist, experienced wheel builder? I'm guessing the 6mm offset is not in the usual dropdown menu of online wheelset shops, like WeAreOne or BTLOS.
    2. BB Cannondale Alloy PressFit30 - How easily swappable is this with other, typical PF30 BBs? Is there anything special about the spindle length for the 6mm offset?
    3. Cranks HollowGram, BB30a, OPI SpideRing, 34T, Ai offset - Is the offset built into the cranks, or the spindle, or other? I know these are nice cranks, but what special details would I need to watch for if I wanted to swap out cranks for XTR, just for example.

    Thanks. SE1 looks the really interesting. Thinking what upkeep and customization might look like for a regular, non-shop, no-connections guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_sbay View Post
    Nice review. Thanks for posting.
    Couple noobish to Cannondales questions for you and folks who know...

    Regarding the AI 6mm offset drivetrain:
    1. Getting new wheels built -- Would this require a specialist, experienced wheel builder? I'm guessing the 6mm offset is not in the usual dropdown menu of online wheelset shops, like WeAreOne or BTLOS.
    2. BB Cannondale Alloy PressFit30 - How easily swappable is this with other, typical PF30 BBs? Is there anything special about the spindle length for the 6mm offset?
    3. Cranks HollowGram, BB30a, OPI SpideRing, 34T, Ai offset - Is the offset built into the cranks, or the spindle, or other? I know these are nice cranks, but what special details would I need to watch for if I wanted to swap out cranks for XTR, just for example.

    Thanks. SE1 looks the really interesting. Thinking what upkeep and customization might look like for a regular, non-shop, no-connections guy.
    Any decent wheelbuilder should be able to account for the offset. You can also buy off the shelf wheels and take them to a builder to have them dished, but it's less ideal than having someone who can build for the offset up front.

    Someone like wheelbuilder.com should be able to help you out.

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    Thanks for the review. Any chance it fits 2.6 tires out back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_sbay View Post
    Nice review. Thanks for posting.
    Couple noobish to Cannondales questions for you and folks who know...

    Regarding the AI 6mm offset drivetrain:
    1. Getting new wheels built -- Would this require a specialist, experienced wheel builder? I'm guessing the 6mm offset is not in the usual dropdown menu of online wheelset shops, like WeAreOne or BTLOS.
    As Udyr said, its a simple redish of a wheel. Doesn’t take a pro wheel builder, but you definitely need someone who has experience knowing how to dish and true.

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    2. BB Cannondale Alloy PressFit30 - How easily swappable is this with other, typical PF30 BBs? Is there anything special about the spindle length for the 6mm offset?
    Simple PF30 BBs will work as long as they’re not (Non 83A) BB width specific. Ive linked some options specifically for the PF30A width below. The Hollowgram spindle is 137mm and has standard Hollowgram MTB spacers. The Ai offset is built into the spidering.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_sbay View Post
    3. Cranks HollowGram, BB30a, OPI SpideRing, 34T, Ai offset - Is the offset built into the cranks, or the spindle, or other? I know these are nice cranks, but what special details would I need to watch for if I wanted to swap out cranks for XTR, just for example.
    As above, the offset is built into the spidering. Swapping to SRAM or Shimano cranks can be more complicated and sometimes more work than you care to get involved with, but Kogel and WheelsMFG make specific conversion PF30A BBs for using SRAM/Shimano cranks without any other mod.

    https://www.kogel.cc/collections/can...kets/#products

    They’re kinda pricey ~$179-$199 (ceramic bearings)


    https://wheelsmfg.com/products/bb-cr...-adapters.html

    This spacer kit is an even cheaper option.
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    Are those PF30a bb's compatible with the Scalpels 83mm wide bb shell as they're designed for Road PF30a

    Can attest to the Scalpels better compliance in traction when compared to the outgoing Si. It just feels like it wants to dig it and not floating on the terrain waiting for a spin out. I find myself standing and climbing with the new bike a lot more.
    I want one!

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    Can i mount in crankset with quarq power meter? or is this exactly the same bb as 2017 model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    Are those PF30a bb's compatible with the Scalpels 83mm wide bb shell as they're designed for Road PF30a

    Can attest to the Scalpels better compliance in traction when compared to the outgoing Si. It just feels like it wants to dig it and not floating on the terrain waiting for a spin out. I find myself standing and climbing with the new bike a lot more.
    I want one!
    The Kogels YES. Now that I look further, you’re right, the WheelsMFG BBs are not compatible with 83. The WheelsMFG adapting spacers ARE compatible still. Edited original post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trauma-md View Post
    The Kogels YES. Now that I look further, you’re right, the WheelsMFG BBs are not compatible with 83. The WheelsMFG adapting spacers ARE compatible still. Edited original post!

    For a PF30A/83 the BB386 option is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    For a PF30A/83 the BB386 option is the way to go.
    Absolutely. I have done this in the past.
    Last edited by trauma-md; 1 Week Ago at 02:04 PM.

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    It's the same bb as 2017 scalpel so if you have the sram Crank already and it's the 30mm axle then you can use the drive side quarq power meter and the existing non drive side Crank arm.

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    Nice build...the purple hubs work well the grey frame color

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    How come we don't see the Ultimate or World Cup model shown on the website? High Mod 1 will be the highest model in 2021?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalpel226 View Post
    How come we don't see the Ultimate or World Cup model shown on the website? High Mod 1 will be the highest model in 2021?
    Should be coming to US. Cannondale usually delays the “ultimate” or “limited” upper end models. Finger crossed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by trauma-md View Post
    Should be coming to US. Cannondale usually delays the “ultimate” or “limited” upper end models. Finger crossed.



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    Any idea when will it be shown on the web? Looks like Sram has new Cassette for the bike?
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    Thanks for your report.
    Do you have size M?
    Tire clearance with DHR II 2.35 is fine on the rear? I was a little scared because C'dale has speced a 2.25 tire in the rear and a 2.35 on the front.

    Quote Originally Posted by trauma-md View Post
    Might as well start the thread with the proper year now, right?

    Been riding the SE1 for weeks now. Came out of the box (with tubes) at 25lbs. I swapped the XT and hollowgram wheels for AXS and industry 9. Even with adding some hefty Minions (a must) and heavy post...24.9 lbs. The new SID 35mm is really stiff actually. Didn’t have high hopes, but super impressed for sure. It’s actually 100g LIGHTER than the aluminum Ocho. The SE could quite possibly come out of the box weighing almost as light as the XT Scalpel Carbon 2 XC. It still maintains that XC feel, though, even with 1° slacker angle (67°). You definitely notice the extra travel when it counts but not when it doesn’t.

    This scalpel is much more efficient than all of my others. Previous were pretty simple frame designs and relied heavily on shock tune and performance. With its Horst link, there is a lot of efficiency built into the frame design and it’s noticeable. My previous Scalpels would all get a Fox Float CTD (3 pos damping) upgrade for this reason. Climbing was not all that efficient and I certainly didn’t wanna climb locked out. This bike doesn’t need that middle platform climbing, even with the extra travel. The rear end with SID LUXE tracks very efficiently, up and down. It takes fairly decent sized drops easily without much worry. Easy to hop and clear large trees and other trail garbage bc of it’s weight. This is legitimately a very raceable XC bike.

    I chose the SE1, which is the hidden gem of the whole lineup as I’ve never really paid attention to the SE in the past. Full XT 12 speed, super light frame, carbon wheels, super light stiff SID. 120/120 at 25lbs. For $5500? And super stealthy looking paint job.








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    Cool build.....looks fast and fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by maettu View Post
    Thanks for your report.
    Do you have size M?
    Tire clearance with DHR II 2.35 is fine on the rear? I was a little scared because C'dale has speced a 2.25 tire in the rear and a 2.35 on the front.
    DHR 2.3 definitely clears with absolutely no rub. I think Cannondale was interested in specing this bike somewhat appealing to the XC crowd, so they put smaller/faster Rekon Race on the rear. The Minions definitely put this bike on a new level, though.

    Added a little something over the weekend:

    2021 Scalpel-81a0e59e-d915-4e08-82d0-8f072e426244.jpg

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    Just got the HM1 carbon, I found that the Ocho on the new Scalpel got something changed! The remote lockout has been changed from Push to Unlock to Push to Lock! Same as the Fox rear shock, both are push to lock now. Great modification from Cannondale

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