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    2012 One!!!

    "The 2012 "The ONE" will have a couple of changes from the 2011 model. Overall, Canfield Bros. are very happy with this bike. I think everyone would agree the suspension design is top notch excels at not only ups but downs.

    This technology will not change as its damn near perfect. What will change is the following:

    -New head tube gussets. ( for strength and added stiffness)

    -New rear triangle. (with out adding much weight, a stiffer on all axis' rear triangle, it will help with the big guys and the DH guys)

    -BB will slightly raise ( to aid pedal clearance of course, more FR friendly with out giving up DH performance)

    -Headtube will steepen slighty ( still 100% customizable with an angleset. 1.5'' continued)

    - Rear wheel spacing will now be 142mm or 135mm with dropout spacer

    Geo charts will be up for viewing soon !"

    And so it starts...





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    I was wondering when this thread was going to start! But man you gotta throw in more pics!

    I really like the numbers of the new The One. I reckon this would be a killer hard hitting enduro frame built with a 170mm fork ,zero stack and the shorter shock option.

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    2012 One!!!

    Used to be a member here and came back on.

    Been poking around at the Canfield threads for a while.
    Just ordered a 2012 One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Build to come when I have it in hand!

    Super stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxfreeride View Post
    Used to be a member here and came back on.

    Been poking around at the Canfield threads for a while.
    Just ordered a 2012 One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Build to come when I have it in hand!

    Super stoked!
    I'm stoked for ya

    What do you think your final build might look like?

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    Any complete bike pics??

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    I'm still sorting my build out but will post some shots when I get the frame and figure parts.

    Can't wait for this pup. Trying to ride more this season!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxfreeride View Post
    Used to be a member here and came back on.

    Been poking around at the Canfield threads for a while.
    Just ordered a 2012 One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Build to come when I have it in hand!

    Super stoked!
    So awesome man I can not wait to see it, 2012 is going to be a sweet season.

    I pre-ordered mine as well a few weeks ago when I noticed the purple links

    I hope to have 4 Canfields by the end of the season...

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    I took those shots on sunday at the factory. They will be arriving in the US in about a month. No full builds yet, just finished assembling them and putting them through a final inspection. We have a couple that are air shipping so you'll see a few pics in the coming weeks. Colors turned out great! So stoked to build one up with a AM build and one with a DH build.
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    Is there a reason why the welds extend beyond the gusset? I am not trolling. I have just not seen that before.
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    The welds extend to push the stresses out beyond the end of the gussets. Most cracks will start to form right at the end of the gusset because it's so stiff there. By welding past a little, it tapers the stiffness out into the tubing and removes the abrupt transision.

    Most motorcycle company's do this in high stress areas.
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    I need a beer mug for myself with these strong welds.

    Jokes aside... Sean helped me sort out a shock for my frame and blessed my part spec today. Great service and can't wait for my first Canfield.
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    What's the frame weight without a shock?

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    We just received our first couple of air shipped One frames and we'll be releasing the official pics shorty, but we wanted to post up this teaser...

    For 2012, we stiffened the frame, tweaked the geo and dropped .25 lbs compared to the 2011's. Sean's medium frame came in at 8lbs flat.

    Here's the weights with a few different shock options:
    X Fusion Air - just a hair over 9 lbs
    Vivid Air - 9.1lbs
    Elka with a ti spring - 9.72 lbs
    Fox RC4 - 9.95 lbs

    Enjoy!!!
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    Rad teaser, V.
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    more pics...



    Sean Gollub and Kyle Warner's new race steeds !!!


    Hope you all enjoy

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    SO EXCITED about this bike for so many people ! Less weight, more stiff , classy LASERED logo's ! Lot's of colors to keep you and your friends bike different !!

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    Psyched!!!
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    Nice pic's gentlemen, keep them rolling in. Whats the final build spec?

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    looking real good. LOVE the laser etched logos and minimalist (IE: low key) cosmetics for 2012. timeless beauties!

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    All in...

    I just couldn't take it anymore.... I ordered up a 2012 last week. So stoked!
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    Awesome bike...test ride a bike that was used in a Kiara Race in M'sia hehehehe size M.....neway me at 6' and will large be ok or is tooo big?

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    im more interested in an AM\XC setup on the one, rear air shock and 6.5" travel,

    how good does it pedal uphill compared to 6" bikes?
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    Sizing on this frame is a bit of personal preference. The TT is 1/2'' longer than the JEDI. It seems most folks 5'8'' - 6' prefer a medium. Over 6', a large seems perfect !

    Vin is going to have his setup with a 170mm fork and it should be sub 30lbs. when he's done.

    The travel question gets asked a lot, basically this frame in 8'' mode pedals better than a lot of frames with 1/2 the travel. This is a NO BS statement ! This bike is magic !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    im more interested in an AM\XC setup on the one, rear air shock and 6.5" travel,

    how good does it pedal uphill compared to 6" bikes?
    If it's anything like the 2011 and in my experience, it's the best peddling 7"/8" bike on the market. I run mine with a Elka and can peddle it anywhere, the only thing holding it back is me.

    I can't attest to the shorter shock setup but if is going to be an air shock it'll only peddle better. If you happen to live in Vancouver BC and ride a large, let me know and you can give my One a bash.

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    Canfield Brothers The One Images

    Hey guys, I just posted up a image gallery on our blog of Sean's One, featuring a few different shock options we will be offering this year. We didn't have any Cane Creeks in stock when we shot these, (can't wait to see the black frame with all the CC gold goodness.) I am super sorry for the delay, I'll be MUCH more on top of things when my move to Bellingham is all dialed in.

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    side view with Elka


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    The extra headtube gusset is awesome...a little Jedi-ish. Also digging the rear triangle with stylish brace. Man, too bad I already have a '11 and love it too much. Whoever gets the '12 is super lucky!

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    Hey bigcrs, thanks for the offer:-) wish i lived somewhere near that area, im from Israel, so im going on blind with the One as a second pair.

    I currently have a 12' Jedi after owning a 08 jedi:-)

    Im looking for a second pair to serve me as an all around not dh bike, meaning, sometimes i would have to xc pedal for 40km but sometimes ill hit local am and fr stuff.

    As you can see in my sig i have a 08 sx trail for this now, but its not cutting it in the pedalling area, so im thinking of a 5" bike.

    But if the One with air shock could pedal like a 6" bike, i would go for it and not with enduro/stumpjumper stuff.

    The only problem is getting the One on "blind" (in hebrew it sounds better heh)

    I know that nothing bad can come from canfield bros, already on my buying list are the crampon ultimates!
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    Sweet! Just sourcing parts for my build.
    Marzochi 66
    Or
    Fox float 36
    Or
    Fox Van 36?
    Decisions, decisions!
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    After putting a Totem on my Diggle, those Fox's look so small....The Zoke was on my short list but too much coin for me. Go with the Zoke!

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    fauxfreeride, I have an '11 66 RC3 Evo Ti on my One and once I figured the right air preload assist for me...it is awesome. Would image the '12 version is at least as good if not better. I'm biased when i say you can't go wrong with the 66 unless you are really trying to shave weight. Still, it's not that bad in that dept.

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    Running the marz 66 on mine paired with the rockskox vivid air. Running about 5 psi air assist in the fork. The bike feels very balanced and smooth when going thru its travel. Was going to put a talas on it but asked myself why??? Stayed with the 66 and am very happy

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    Check out Ben's new One!

    Oh my!


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    that thing looks so quick!

    is that a large?
    whats the weight on this? looks light!

    also, what height is the guy riding it?

    i am 6'0 and cant decide between the M or L
    im riding a large 2012 Jedi
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    Man that bike looks sick.

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    thats a nice setup man : )

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    I have my 2011 One frame for sale if anyone is looking to get on the fastest bike on earth!

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    How it pedals with those fox 40?

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    The ONE pedals INSANELY well for a 8'' bike. Actually, its the best of any 8'' bike I've ever tried. That alone is a big reason why its becoming a "racers" DH bike. The only bob from the bike happens in the fork, yet when you hit a bump, root or tiny impact......BAM your shock if FULL open!!!

    With the different shock options and travel settings, its a very versatile machine thats at home just about anywhere!

    The ONE also jumps really well and is a very balanced when cornering. The TT length is about 1/2'' longer then the JEDI for those folks who have ridden both. I ride a medium JEDI, but I really enjoy the slightly longer TT on the med "The ONE".

    Ben's bike is around 36 lbs...It pedals even LIGHTHER ! He also has the super trick 9t hub laced to those ENVE hoops!

    The changes in the rear triangle to stiffen up the back of the bike was VERY successful ! Stiffer and lighter! This bike arcs corners like carving skis !!

    I just got a bunch of ONE frames in stock. They look great, I have been very busy getting all the patient pre-orders out ! If your on my list, your frame is a coming !!!

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    +1 what Sean said. At one point I had a fox 40 on my One and decided to give it a go. After the fun DH bits, was climbing out of the forest and got a lot of "holy Sh!t" looks as I was able to easily climb it like a normal AM bike. Suffice to say, the One kicks freak'n a$$ for just about everything if you could only have "one" bike!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicohigh5 View Post
    I have my 2011 One frame for sale if anyone is looking to get on the fastest bike on earth!

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    Did you end up selling that thing? I never heard back from you?

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    I've climbed some unbelievable steep technical stuff with the one in 8 in. mode. I'm going to get some guys with XC and All-mountain bikes to see if they can climb the same stuff. I'll be surprised if they can match it. I'll post some videos one of these days to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boone View Post
    Did you end up selling that thing? I never heard back from you?
    Yup, I bought it. Thanks, Kyle!
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    OK... so I'll start.

    Knock Knock.
    Who's there?
    Canfield.
    Canfield who?
    Canfield The One!

    UPS guy dropped my One off last night.
    Bad ass... just need the last few parts and some time to build and lace.

    Thanks to the Canfield Crew for getting me my first glass of Canfield Koolaid.
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    Got mine Tuesday, built it up, rode it around the block, now it's in a box going on vacation.
    those links are purple as... something. Old school; party like it's 1991!


    crash replacement for my '09, parts that look out of place, like the fork and the lack of dropper post, that's why. Anyone want to trade a 31.6 reverb for a 30.9?
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    Love the reinforcements, they look sex!

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    How heavy are these frames?

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    post 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    How heavy are these frames?
    See post 13...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joules View Post
    Got mine Tuesday, built it up, rode it around the block, now it's in a box going on vacation.
    those links are purple as... something. Old school; party like it's 1991!


    crash replacement for my '09, parts that look out of place, like the fork and the lack of dropper post, that's why. Anyone want to trade a 31.6 reverb for a 30.9?
    Nice looking bike and yes, I have a 30.9 Reverb that I am shimming to use on my new bike. Send me a message and lets get something worked out!
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    My Bellingham, The One

    Just finished up my build, used a few parts from last year trail bike, but she should sit very close to 31 lbs!!!

    Frame - Small The One
    Shock - Cane Creek DB Air
    Headset - King Inset
    Fork - Marz 55 Evo Ti
    Bars - Cromag OSX
    Stem - Thomson
    Grips - Ruffian Lock Ons
    Brakes - Avid Elixir CR
    Cranks - Race Face Carbon
    Chainring - E13
    Guide - E13
    Pedals - Time Atac Carbon/Ti, (not pictured)
    Rear D - Sram X0
    Shifter - Sram X0
    Chain - XTR
    Cassette - XTR
    Wheels - Mavic Crossmax SX
    Tires - Maxxis Minion DFH EXO, tubeless
    Seat post - Thomson
    Seat - Specialized Henge
    Cables - Jagwire Ripcord
    Brake Housing - Jagwire Hydroflow
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    Such a perfect build. Man I am getting phsyched.
    Joules - do have any better pics of the silver finish and purple links? I am undecided on silver/black frame and purple links. I will either go silver/purple, black/purple or black/black.
    Killington - have you been on Crossmax before? Been thinking about them but I wouldn't pick up a set unless I could get some spare spokes at the same time, I know how hard they are to come by where I work/live. I know how you ride so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on durability. I am looking to go for a very similar light weight hard hitting build and wheels are the 1 undecided item. I am also assuming you are on a 170mm 55 and the travel is in 6.5" mode. What is the HA and BB height? This is setup I will be in 80-90% of the time.
    I just want to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan pablo View Post
    Such a perfect build. Man I am getting phsyched.
    Joules - do have any better pics of the silver finish and purple links? I am undecided on silver/black frame and purple links. I will either go silver/purple, black/purple or black/black.
    Killington - have you been on Crossmax before? Been thinking about them but I wouldn't pick up a set unless I could get some spare spokes at the same time, I know how hard they are to come by where I work/live. I know how you ride so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on durability. I am looking to go for a very similar light weight hard hitting build and wheels are the 1 undecided item. I am also assuming you are on a 170mm 55 and the travel is in 6.5" mode. What is the HA and BB height? This is setup I will be in 80-90% of the time.
    The Crossmax's were off of a previous build that I whooped on pretty good. 1750grams, yet still stout! While I certainly don't throw these off of the stuff I'll hit with my Jedi, they certainly see abuse.
    We are currently testing new rims to be able to offer a very light and stout wheelset for next season... I'll keep you posted on the progress there...

    As far as geo, in an AM build you'll want an external headset, (unlike my inset). My BB is sitting under 13.5 with a 64.82 HA.
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    KillingtonVT, THAT is PIMP!! Love your build!

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    i dont think you can get 6.5" travel with the DB air, do they have it in 8.5x2.5?

    if not he is on the 7" mode, which raises the BB by little compared to the shorter travel.

    when im gettin the ONE i want it for alot of pedalling, so maybe ill go with the shorter shock option on it.

    what are the 8.5x2.5 shock options the ONE has?
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    With the CCDB, it seems you can get both the 8.75x2.50 (6.5"- 7.5" travel) and 8.75x2.75 (7"- 8" travel) shocks.
    Giving you all the offered travel options without having to sacrifice bb height with a 8.5" eye-eye.

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    if theres this option with the CCDB i think its a no brainer going for the 8.75X2.5 with 6.5" travel!

    anyone can say about its pedalling efficiency with the ONE?

    maybe other air shock are a better choice for this?
    or the ccdb is the way to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    if theres this option with the CCDB i think its a no brainer going for the 8.75X2.5 with 6.5" travel!

    anyone can say about its pedalling efficiency with the ONE?

    maybe other air shock are a better choice for this?
    or the ccdb is the way to go
    I only have 1 pedal on mine so far... I was planning on slapping a 8.75x2.5 on it, but Lance recommended the 2.75 to REALLY push the pedaling ability in 8" mode. PRETTY AMAZING... (I'm coming off of a 2012 S-Works Enduro for a pedal bike by the way...) I am getting just about full travel with pretty middle of the road adjustments.

    I have Matt Lareau, one of our East Coast rippers, and Henry Miles from Skyline Media working hard to drop a few sick Jedi edits for us, after they leave next week, I'll be sure to put my the One to the test!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    I only have 1 pedal on mine so far... I was planning on slapping a 8.75x2.5 on it, but Lance recommended the 2.75 to REALLY push the pedaling ability in 8" mode. PRETTY AMAZING... (I'm coming off of a 2012 S-Works Enduro for a pedal bike by the way...) I am getting just about full travel with pretty middle of the road adjustments.

    I have Matt Lareau, one of our East Coast rippers, and Henry Miles from Skyline Media working hard to drop a few sick Jedi edits for us, after they leave next week, I'll be sure to put my the One to the test!!!

    I agree with the way The One pedals in 8" mode. I just had my One set up in full-on DH mode with Dorado's and all. It pedaled like no other DH bike on this planet. But those like me that want a true AM the One needs/should be setup in 6.5". The ability to REALLY have two bikes in One is what attracted me to the One in the first place.

    I have gone from a 66rc3 to a 55 Micro Ti, and not regretted the change at all! Can I say that setup with zero stack & 160mm the One ABSOLUTELY SLAYS the North Shore.

    I have a Avy SSD modified DHX on its way, it's a 8.75x2.5. I focused the tuning based exclusively around the 6.5" setting and all the AM exploits I plan to do with the One.

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    So basically One with ccdb-a 8.75x2.5 on 6.5" setup is the way to go for an am bike? I mean, you can always take the shock from the jedi to hit the 8" mode:-)

    Hey Vin, sorry for the obviouse question, but how is it pedalwise compared to the s-works? Assuming you are on 7" mode on the One?

    As i said, i plan on going ccdb-a in 6.5" mode on the one for AM and tons of pedalling
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    Just received this today, cannot wait to build it up!!

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    Built up and first ride!!!

    Got the last of my parts and put it together.

    BUILD:
    First off, let me say how impressive the frame is. I am just an amateur builder but the machine work and prep is amazing. The bike went together with the parts I had planned like pizza and beer... just meant to be. Not one issue on the build.

    MY PART SPEC:
    Frame - Large The One
    Shock - Cane Creek DB Coil (MuthaF--ka)
    Headset - King Devolution
    Fork - 2013 Fox Float 180 RC2 (Yes! It is FINALLY more linear!)
    Bars - RF Atlas FR Stealth 750
    Stem - Easton Havoc 35mm
    Grips - Rogue Lock On
    Brakes - Avid Code
    Cranks - Saint M810 170mm
    Chainring - RF Single 32t (My first single)
    Guide - MRP Mini
    Pedals - Time Z Strong
    Rear D - Sram X9 (Short cage... WORKS!)
    Shifter - Sram X9
    Chain - SRAM 1071
    Cassette - SRAM (11...errr... now 9/36!)
    Hub Rear - Canfield 9t (MuthaF--ka)
    Hub Front - King 20mm
    Rims - DT Swiss FR600
    Tires - Maxxis Minion DFH 2.5
    Seat post - Spec Blacklite
    Seat - WTB Pure V
    Cables - Jagwire Ripcord
    Brake Housing - Avid (Soon to be Jag)

    Initial Ride:
    The cockpit to me is different than other bikes (IMO). I feel like I sit "in" the bike, not on it. This was more obvious on downhills when the suspension came alive. I ride mostly aggressive trail and some LIGHT DH/FR. This is a step up rig for me.

    All the talk about the pedaling is true. Mind you my build is a bit heavy and slack on the HA (64.5) but the rear tire GLUES itself to the ground in the 8" mode?!?!?!?!? (Thanks Sean). If there is any bob I couldn't notice it.

    Only did one big ride so I won't say much more than I am impressed past what I was expecting. All around super fun in rocky/rooty/up-down east coast terrain.

    One note... The 9t seems to be the shiz! FLAWLESS lace up to the rims for me and shifts perfect. I really hope this is a trend in gearing all around.

    Thanks Canfield!

    ps: Yes my steerer is too long. Wanted room for adjustment.
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    Since it sounds like you've ridden the bike at 8", perhaps you can tell me why people are reducing travel and using less suspension. I'm seriously asking because I came off a Specy Pitch(with nothing but top shelf parts) and I consider my 8" Boxxer/Stage5 ONE setup to be a far superior AM rig to the Pitch. To me it seems to do everything better AND I've got a full DH rig instantly ready by merely pushing the KS dropseat button
    To me, at 8" the bike is several rolled into one...since a lot of good riders are doing up ONEs like you, I figure I'm not getting something, help.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I agree with the way The One pedals in 8" mode. I just had my One set up in full-on DH mode with Dorado's and all. It pedaled like no other DH bike on this planet. But those like me that want a true AM the One needs/should be setup in 6.5". The ability to REALLY have two bikes in One is what attracted me to the One in the first place.

    I have gone from a 66rc3 to a 55 Micro Ti, and not regretted the change at all! Can I say that setup with zero stack & 160mm the One ABSOLUTELY SLAYS the North Shore.

    I have a Avy SSD modified DHX on its way, it's a 8.75x2.5. I focused the tuning based exclusively around the 6.5" setting and all the AM exploits I plan to do with the One.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossup View Post
    Since it sounds like you've ridden the bike at 8", perhaps you can tell me why people are reducing travel and using less suspension. I'm seriously asking because I came off a Specy Pitch(with nothing but top shelf parts) and I consider my 8" Boxxer/Stage5 ONE setup to be a far superior AM rig to the Pitch. To me it seems to do everything better AND I've got a full DH rig instantly ready by merely pushing the KS dropseat button
    To me, at 8" the bike is several rolled into one...since a lot of good riders are doing up ONEs like you, I figure I'm not getting something, help.
    Someone help me and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong... I have been riding my '11 The One for 3 weeks now and here is what I have observed;

    The shock options don't change the Geo of the frame because the i2i on the shocks is the same, just the stroke length is different. Only thing that changes the Geo is the setting on the frame. The only reason you would get shorter travel is because the shorter stroke shock prevents the frame from reaching the full potential. Using the low hole (8"/7.5") sets the frame in its higher stance, more spread out if you will, with a highest possible BB height. Using the upper hole (7"/6.5") will put the bike into its lower stance, bringing the front and rear triangles closer together thus lowering the bottom bracket. Also, since the frame measurements were given with the effective length of a boxxxer or 40, using any of the shorter forks will further drop your BB.

    Given this, using the 6.5" setting with a fork shorter than an 8" would set your bottom bracket even lower than the listed geo sheet.

    As I am seeing it, to effectively have the highest possible BB you would want the longest fork possible and in the 8"/7.5" setting. I was even toying with the possibility of using and angleset to steepen the HA and try to bring the BB up even more.

    Any into or other opinions I would love to hear.

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    Most modern forks have similar A2C lengths once you get above 150mm travel, so unless you use a odd ball fork, your front end will stay around the same.
    If you check the math, I think you'll find pulling it the HA will only raise the BB, microscopic amounts..3 degs was less than 1/8" IRC. I'm running 66 deg with the CC Angleset and my forks pulled up 2 inches above the top clamp. That obviously lowers my BB by about an inch, yet I seem to have no issue with pedal clearance
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    any more ride reviews?
    mostly on the AM pedalling side?

    thank you!
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    Also interested in ride reviews. Currently just sold off two of my 29ers and a little worried about going back to 26", not to much though. Mainly wondering if this is truly the "One" bike. Can I use it for a 50 mile XC ride and not be dead! Can I turn around and freeride Az's super chunk trails? The new 650b thing looks interesting, if only the bike worked in that setup. Bigger wheels climb and XC a lot better in my opinion but 26" is much funner coming down, ahhhh what to do???

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    any more ride reviews?
    mostly on the AM pedalling side?

    thank you!
    Katsooba,

    I have been spending a bunch of time on my the One midweek at our local pedal up and rip down spot. The climb is about 45 minutes up and is a really good test for this bike! Pedaling efficiency is just insane!! I have been loaning out my bike a bunch of people and have had people freaking out over it. It's fun to give them a 30.5 lb bike and then telling them how much travel it has!!!

    I opened up the HSC on my CCDB Air to only 2 clicks and have my LSC set at about 8. The bike is definitely smoother through chop now and didn't seem to loose anything on the ups!

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    Would love to hear how your bike pedals compared to your S-Works Enduro. I have a 2010 Enduro Pro and have to earn my DH on most rides, but like to go up to the Shore, Stevens, Whistler, etc. I would be very interested in this bike if it climbs better than my Enduro. It looks like it definitely goes down better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    Katsooba,

    I have been spending a bunch of time on my the One midweek at our local pedal up and rip down spot. The climb is about 45 minutes up and is a really good test for this bike! Pedaling efficiency is just insane!! I have been loaning out my bike a bunch of people and have had people freaking out over it. It's fun to give them a 30.5 lb bike and then telling them how much travel it has!!!

    I opened up the HSC on my CCDB Air to only 2 clicks and have my LSC set at about 8. The bike is definitely smoother through chop now and didn't seem to loose anything on the ups!
    I was wondering who much that rig weighed, but I didn't expect 30.5lbs!! My '11 One has been on a diet, as it is now it's sitting at 33.65lbs, down from 37.87lbs.

    Killington, whats the weights of all the available One sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I was wondering who much that rig weighed, but I didn't expect 30.5lbs!! My '11 One has been on a diet, as it is now it's sitting at 33.65lbs, down from 37.87lbs.

    Killington, whats the weights of all the available One sizes.

    We haven't weighed all the sizes, but if I remember correctly, a medium with a Vivid Air weighed 9.1 lbs.

    As far as my build, I swapped the parts over from my 27.01 lb S Works Enduro. Yeah, my the One is pretty freaking light, but she feels SO GOOD! The confidence difference when things get rowdy is unreal... pedaling??? Lets just say that I DON'T miss my old bike!!!

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    So I assume I could transfer most of my parts from my Enduro Pro over to this bike? Would the E160 fork work ok on this bike? Tell me about your single ring - how much difference is there in the lowest gear compared to my double ring set up?

    For taking up on the lifts, would it be wise to have a set of heavy duty DH type wheels, and can you get by with an air shock when doing shuttles and lift riding?

    Next time I am up in Bellingham, I would love to check out your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgman25 View Post
    So I assume I could transfer most of my parts from my Enduro Pro over to this bike? Would the E160 fork work ok on this bike? Tell me about your single ring - how much difference is there in the lowest gear compared to my double ring set up?

    For taking up on the lifts, would it be wise to have a set of heavy duty DH type wheels, and can you get by with an air shock when doing shuttles and lift riding?

    Next time I am up in Bellingham, I would love to check out your bike.
    Most of your parts will swap over with the exception of the rear hub. You will need a 135 or 142x12. As far as the fork, the key to an AM build with the One is keeping the BB as high as possible. An external headset will certainly help this! I made the mistake of ordering an internal and my BB is at 13.25 with my 55. The A to C on the E160 is pretty short, I would opt to sell it with your frame and slap on something longer.

    I run a single ring as I despise front derailleurs!!! My next build will certainly be our 9t Microdrive setup with a 28 front mated to a 9-36 rear. This would allow for a HUGE range of gearing without that clunky thing that attaches to the frame above the chainrings.

    Lastly wheels, it depends on how smooth you are and what kind of terrain you ride. While I can get away with Crossmax SX's on my the One, there's NO WAY I could run those, or something similar on my Jedi.

    Hope that helps bro!!!

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    This helps, thanks. Would love to go to a single ring if I can get close to the lowest gears on my current set up. Sounds like I can with this set up. Do you ever have any demos up in Bellingham to check out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgman25 View Post
    This helps, thanks. Would love to go to a single ring if I can get close to the lowest gears on my current set up. Sounds like I can with this set up. Do you ever have any demos up in Bellingham to check out?
    Right now we just have my the One.. if you can ride a small, you are more welcome to it! Sean should be moved up here by next weekend, not sure if he still has his the One or not... I know he has been spending a bunch of time on his Jedi lately...

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    Gearing: I am running the 9t (9:36) with a 32t Saint 170 up front. The 9t is crazy good for range. Using my One more for freeride and little all mountain. With MY gear ratio HEAVY "technical" climbs can be wearing, this is were I would say the 28 or 30t spiderless would be SPOT on for climbs. I am most likely doing this soon.

    Speaking of climbing: I have a CCDB coil and left it in 8". Bike is glued to the ground for rocky uphills and has zero bob. The climbing on the One is not a fable. I am sold 100%. Downhill the rear comes alive and blows over the rough stuff. The geo has changed how I ride for sure.

    Fork: I have a 180 fox float 2013 (rad linear). CK external headset. This has definitely minimized pedal strikes on climbs. Killington is spot on if you want an AM bike. Keep the BB up with an external headset.

    ps: Keep them handlebars wide so you can handle this speed inspiring beast.

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    I had a little downtime between projects yesterday, so I DH'd out my the One and took her for a spin... it's funny HOW much harder I ride with a dual crown!!! I has Stan's pissing out of my beads from rolling the tires so hard. (I had this wheel/tire set up for almost a year and a half without a single burp). It was super rad riding a DH bike that pedaled this well. It was the MOST fun I have had at Galby since I've been here in Bellingham. I wouldn't trade my Jedi for when it gets rough or the jumps are LARGE, but man was it fun.

    The ride yesterday really helped brake in my DB Air as well... I need to do another round of tuning as it's super smooth now.

    The changes raised the BB from 13.25 to 13.65 and slackened my HA by a degree and a half to 63.27.
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    Yes, the ONE is not a Jedi BUT would you spend the day trail riding and climbing a Jedi??
    You obviously are far more in the know than me since I've never hucked at your scale nor ridden a Jedi but would it be safe to say a ONE can do anything a Jedi can do just not as well, while the Jedi can not do everything the ONE does(or just barely)?
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    So I just pulled the trigger on a 2012 The One frame. Now to figure out all the rest. I am going to be asking a lot of questions in this forum.

    My main rig is a 140mm travel AM bike, which suffices for most of the stuff around here in Toronto. However, I am starting to get into lift access riding and plan to make some trips out west. I grew up near Seattle and my family still lives out there.

    So my plan is to make this a FR/Light DH/park bike. At 37 years of age and having only gotten back into biking 3 years ago, I didn't see myself racing, so a full on DH rig didn't appeal as much. With the One, if I decided lift access riding wasn't reallly my thing (not likely) then I could build it up more AM, so it was a great middle ground for me.

    I am having a buddy build up the 9T hub on some DH rims for me. I am leaning towards a Fox 40 and an Elka stage 5 shock. I am pretty clueless on what crank/chainring/chain guide I need. I don't even know what a spider is (i'll go look it up).

    Anyway, that was a bit of a ramble, but I am super stoked.

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    The thing to remember about the ONE is that it will pedal as well or better than your AM rig. So keeping it light will help with that, while its not a deal breaker, its obviously easier to get 35 pounds up hill than 40 pounds.
    I mention this because I really think unless you are seriously in love with your AM ride(and your trails have nothing it can't eat up), the ONE will make you park it.
    The beauty of riding a DH capable trail/AM bike is you can hit anything that strikes your fancy. As opposed to riding AM and saying, gee, I have to come back and really hit that on my FR/DH rig.
    So my point in saying that is unless you're a BIG boy, you may want to consider using the MUCH lighter Boxxer WC, which is a super match for the Elka Stage 5. I'm 5'8.5" and 150 and would not want a Fox 40 on my bike, however you may, again, if you're large. Don't listen to the RS haters, the Boxxer WC is a great fork and works really well on the ONE.

    Another recommendation would be to build it with the VP Varial headset which will allow you to change HA on the trail. That means your trips to lift served stuff can be with a DH setup and when doing AM/FR work, you can pull the HA back to the 66 deg area where the ONE will turn nicely for use on tight trails and general riding. One could also use a CC Angleset but changing the cones is a PITA.

    Your mileage may vary but depending on your trails, you may want to run a double chain ring, I'm not running a chain guide but havent had a chain drop yet with mine. My ONE came with a nice taco guard that keeps the chain from coming off to the inside and I run a Gamut bash guard despite the taco cause it keeps the chain from going off to the outside and is very friendly to your ankles and shins should you errr.. dismount unintentionally
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    Thanks for the tip. Didn't realize that the FOX 40 was so heavy. This is why I post.

    I do really love my AM rig (IBIS SL-R) which is pretty damn light for the amount of travel.

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    6.93 lbs vs 5.97 lbs, that and lightweight wheels/tires are the biggest single component savings one can do. There are some pretty lightweight wheelsets out there that can take pretty big hits and if you're feeling old(but you really are quite young for FR/DH) you can probably get away with quality AM rims. I AM old so I ride on Crossmax SX's and doubt I'll ever hurt them even at the bike parks. I rode Whistler for a week on a Specialized Pitch with Crossmax ST's and musta bottomed a hundred times and did drops much bigger than the bike was intended for(you know you've over done it when the bike bounces back into the air big time from give and flex in stuff) yet I've never even had to tighten a spoke to this day, and now the wife is rolling on those rims. All depends on your weight and how aggressive you ride.
    Same thing with cranks, bars etc. I run carbon everthing and know they are stronger than I am...not all riders can say that, again, your mileage may vary.
    But my real bottomline point here is build it to suit YOU and don't pay too much mind to old school FR/DH wisdom, the ONE for example makes all that stuff obsolete. Go back 5-7 years and no one in their right mind would pedal a DH bike up serious hills, but now there are several 200mm travel bikes that go uphill as good as anything. I hear even the SC V10's pedal very well and are of course hardcore DH race bikes, so listen to those who ride such bikes, not the old school DH crowd that spout absolutes without ever trying state of the art or thinking outside the box. Oh and Chris Canfield will always tell it like it is and is always up for helping/discussing nearly anything about bikes.
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    Thanks again for the advice. I think I've figure out some of the stuff, but not yet all. I went with SRAM X9 crankset + Homebrew chainring 29t, Microguide + 9T package for a big part of the drivetrain. Have to figure out brakes and rear derailleur. The later I think depends a bit on which cassette I choose. I assume I want a short cage.

    Two looming questions I have are:
    1) Coil versus air fork? The boxxer also comes in a coil version vs the soloair, with the weight penalty of course. Is the penalty worth it. I had always been led to believe that you want coil on a DH rig.
    2) Are the saint brakes really that good? They are pricey. I also don't get the whole mounting scheme of the shimano brakes. Not sure if there are better values out there for performance.

    Anyway...those are the questions I am still pondering.

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    Used to be you just couldn't get the compliance a coil produces with air, those days are gone although you have to be careful what you buy as only a few air products rival coils.
    But at least they exist now, The Boxxer WC being one, and I'll be the first to admit its harder to tune air to equal coil and easier to setup coils but you do have the option now, I think its largely up to how big of a weight weenie you are or want to be. The bigger you are, the less it matters too. My bike weights nearly 25% as much as me, some folks ride with the bike being nearly 10%...so in my mind I HAVE to be more aware of adding weight.
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    2012 the One Colors

    I had a little time this week to shoot all twelve color options of the One... I also posted colors for ALL our bikes over on our FB page.

    Here are the Silver frames...

    Enjoy!!!
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    And the Black frames:
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    Some vid...

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    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/49059495" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/49059495">Canfield Brothers "The One"</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/dualcrownfilms">Dual Crown Films</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Was hoping to see more real trail riding. Ben is freakin fast and would like to see him on a trail that does justice to his speed. Canyons looks fun, don't get me wrong, I have just seen him on the DH at Bootleg and would like more video of that type of riding.

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    let me tell you

    i just swapped my 2008 SX trail with the 2012 ONE.

    SXT was with rear Elka stage 5 and 2011 160 fox van rc2 upfront, weighted at 15.8 kilo.
    just did a part swap with the ONE, same parts except for the rear CCDB-AIR. bike weights less. thats for one.

    as for pedaling, this bike is a hell of a suprise on the uphills in 8" mode!
    with 30% sag, i could pedal stuff that i just could get passed with the SX Trail, steep uphills that go for hundreds of meters would just be impossible with the sx trail! with the ONE in said setup i just laughed as i pedalled uphill! it was like i was on a moto.

    and the thing is, on the SX i was pedaling with 34 ring front and 34 [biggest] ring back
    with the ONE i tested it with 34 ring front the 32 [biggest] ring back, and it still was MUCH MUCH happier to climb!

    cant wait to get my 32 front the 9-36 back

    that thing would be unstoppable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
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    let me tell you

    i just swapped my 2008 SX trail with the 2012 ONE.

    SXT was with rear Elka stage 5 and 2011 160 fox van rc2 upfront, weighted at 15.8 kilo.
    just did a part swap with the ONE, same parts except for the rear CCDB-AIR. bike weights less. thats for one.

    as for pedaling, this bike is a hell of a suprise on the uphills in 8" mode!
    with 30% sag, i could pedal stuff that i just could get passed with the SX Trail, steep uphills that go for hundreds of meters would just be impossible with the sx trail! with the ONE in said setup i just laughed as i pedalled uphill! it was like i was on a moto.

    and the thing is, on the SX i was pedaling with 34 ring front and 34 [biggest] ring back
    with the ONE i tested it with 34 ring front the 32 [biggest] ring back, and it still was MUCH MUCH happier to climb!

    cant wait to get my 32 front the 9-36 back

    that thing would be unstoppable!

    Hey Katsooba,

    I am running the 9:36 with a 32t Saint up front. The 9:36 is killer, big range and flawless for me so far. JMO... the 32t up front for me is great for flowy AM/DH/FR but steep tech climbs are a bit of a hump for me. I am a pretty strong climber, my build is on the heavy side and I have a 180 Fox Float up front (that all contributes).

    That being said, for single ring "I think" most riders would like a 28t-32t up front FOR TRAIL/AM. Might spin out on fast DH... maybe? I'm sure there are much stronger riders than me on here so its just a thought.

    All aside from that this bike's rear GLUES to the ground on ANY climb and flows like water on descent.

    Pretty sure I am going to try a 28t up front for a bit on trail riding, and over the winter swap out to a Zoke 888 evo ti so I can be spring ready. BOING!

    Hope this helps.
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    [QUOTE=unbalanced;9674994 I went with SRAM X9 crankset + Homebrew chainring 29t, Microguide + 9T package for a big part of the drivetrain.[/QUOTE]

    So you don't plan on having this ready to ride for 8 months or so? I couldn't wait that long!

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    A pic of my One on top of Razor's Edge near Canmore, Alberta.

    I've had it out to Revelstoke, Fernie and lots of Moose Mtn trails the past month. It really does pedal as well as people say, honestly as good as my 5" carbon XC race bike up rocky technical terrain. Certainly not as fast though, it's pretty light at 32lbs but compared to 23.5 it's quite a difference. You do have to watch the pedal strikes when climbing, even with 170mm cranks. Rips the downs as expected!

    Have a 2x10 setup with 22/38 cranks and 11-36 cassette as we have lots of long climbs. Gearing is perfect, just keeps cruising up. New Blackspire Twinty chain guide works awesome too.

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    A few questions - sizing, gearing

    Sorry for not making a new thread, but this is my first post and I can't start one.
    I may be getting a 2012 Canfield One frame soon, and I would love some info and opinions.

    First, I can't decide between getting a medium and a large. I am 6'1'', 180ish, and 32.5 inseam. I would build the bike up as a do it all / pedal-able freeride bike with probably a lyrik 170 in front. Aiming for 34 ish pounds.
    I am leaning towards the medium because I currently ride a voltage fr which is around the same 23'' top tube length. I have ridden a 24'' top tube uzzi and it felt massive. I like smaller-ish, more nimble frames in general, but I don't want more than a 50mm stem. The 17'' seat tube is really appealing because I don't like the seat anywhere near me when riding aggresively.
    Is there enough seat tube to still pedal well?
    Do the frames ride large or small?
    Anyone around my size riding a medium have any thoughts?

    Next thing I can't decide is whether to do 1x or 2x front chainring(s).
    How would a front derailleur with a mrp xcg or blackspire stinger do through laps at the canyons, and more downhill style stuff?
    Would I still be able to climb Utah trails with a single 33t front and 11-34 or 11-36 in back? I realize a lot of that is my own fitness but if I would have to be in pro xc shape to do it, it's just not going to happen.

    Thanks a lot, I look forward to possibly being a Canfielder. (new word?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fstfrd15 View Post


    A pic of my One on top of Razor's Edge near Canmore, Alberta.

    I've had it out to Revelstoke, Fernie and lots of Moose Mtn trails the past month. It really does pedal as well as people say, honestly as good as my 5" carbon XC race bike up rocky technical terrain. Certainly not as fast though, it's pretty light at 32lbs but compared to 23.5 it's quite a difference. You do have to watch the pedal strikes when climbing, even with 170mm cranks. Rips the downs as expected!

    Have a 2x10 setup with 22/38 cranks and 11-36 cassette as we have lots of long climbs. Gearing is perfect, just keeps cruising up. New Blackspire Twinty chain guide works awesome too.

    Yes very sweet ride, great to see more Canfields in BC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossimcfly View Post

    Next thing I can't decide is whether to do 1x or 2x front chainring(s).
    How would a front derailleur with a mrp xcg or blackspire stinger do through laps at the canyons, and more downhill style stuff?
    Would I still be able to climb Utah trails with a single 33t front and 11-34 or 11-36 in back? I realize a lot of that is my own fitness but if I would have to be in pro xc shape to do it, it's just not going to happen.

    Thanks a lot, I look forward to possibly being a Canfielder. (new word?)
    I can't offer any suggestions yet on frame size, but i can on the drivetrain. In my opinion, you ought to look into one of the sram/truvativ or middleburn crank sets that has a spiderless spline drive. I live in utah too, and some of the longer climbs would suck with a 34 tooth ring. The nice thing about the spline drive is that you can get chainrings in sizes like 28. Match that with canfield's 9 tooth micro drive hub and you will have a 1x10 that will do everything you want, less weight, full gear range, quieter ride, and less things that can go wrong. Oh and you will need some sort of guide so that it doesn't get caught under the linkage. Yet another reason for a 1x setup. Many 2x chain guides seem to be a bit of a pain
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    well, im 6'0 with 50 mm stem and 760mm deity bar on a 160mm fork

    riding a Large.

    couldnt be happier
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    Quote Originally Posted by fstfrd15 View Post
    You do have to watch the pedal strikes when climbing, even with 170mm cranks. Rips the downs as expected!
    What fork is that Fox? 160 or 180MM?

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    Thought I would finally put mine up after having it most of the summer. Sitting at 34lbs 12 oz as shown. tubed rear and tubeless front setup. I am running 9sp with that crazy heavy but wide range 12-36 rear cassette and a 34 tooth front. Done some pretty big trail rides (3+ hours) on this and though there are times I wish I had lower gearing, I was still always able to grind through. I also have a trail bike so it will likely stay as it is but amazingly versitile.
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    so the only change you wish for is moving to a 32T ring upfront?
    heh
    looks awesome!
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    sometimes on the grinds. But I like the taller gearing for pointing down the hill. Plus you need it to be big enough to not deal with pedal feedback. I tried a hammerschmidt on it originally and too much caterpillar movement from suspension with the 24 tooth that has. I ran a 32 for a bit and that felt great till I broke that ring and had the 34 spare to mount up. 32 was a great gearing for climbing but a little lacking where the bike shines most. Now I am committed to just grunting along or getting stronger, but amazing really what I am climbing as is. 2k plus ascents are drama free unless it gets steep enough it would be painful on any bike.

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    lucky i got mine with the 9T cassette
    but i know what you're saying, that bike just doesnt wanna make you stop pedaling uphill, even though you need to grind sometimes, it just keeps moving.
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    I really want to try one of these sometime. The One is at the top of my list for next bike, although I can't see that happening for a few more years, sadly. Wish Canfield was going to Outerbike.

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    I am 6'0" 33" inseam and riding a large One with a 50mm stem and 800mm bars. I use mine for southern Utah all mountain riding, a little freeride, a little dh, whatever the trail brings. This size is perfect for me for all around. However, I do wish the seat tube was shorter for freeride. The medium one only has a 1" shorter top tube and the seat tube would be much more friendly on steep jumps. I would recommend that if you are mostly riding freeride and parks. You will still be able to raise the post high enough and the short top tube shouldn't be too bad for pedaling, especially with wide bars. It will pedal very well either way. And the medium will be much closer to your voltage fr.

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    medium it is

    Thanks guys.
    I ended up going with a medium. It may be a little bit short for climbing, but hopefully tolerable, and much more fun for the downhill.
    Also, I think I'll go 33t front / 11-36 rear. Gearing may be a little tall for some Utah trails, but I don't mind hiking the steep parts. If that doesn't work, front derailleur or 9-36 hub and cassette when $$ permits.

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    Love my ONE!

    I figured now that I have about 10 rides on her I can share my ONE with you all! still have a couple things I want to do, but she's pretty much how I imagined she'd be.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    I figured now that I have about 10 rides on her I can share my ONE with you all! still have a couple things I want to do, but she's pretty much how I imagined she'd be.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>
    Pretty. Damn. SICK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    I figured now that I have about 10 rides on her I can share my ONE with you all! still have a couple things I want to do, but she's pretty much how I imagined she'd be.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>
    Hey, I gotta know.. how much does your rig weigh?

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    Thanks bigcrs! It's my first "real" bike or at least one that's completely new to me. Rage43 I haven't weighed it since putting on he Outlaws but I'm guessing around 35/36 lbs. which may be a little heavy for a small frame but I'm working on trimming weight where I can. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    Thanks bigcrs! It's my first "real" bike or at least one that's completely new to me. Rage43 I haven't weighed it since putting on he Outlaws but I'm guessing around 35/36 lbs. which may be a little heavy for a small frame but I'm working on trimming weight where I can. Any ideas?
    The cheapest and easiest way for you to trim weight would be with the rubber. For me at 195lbs a 850g'ish muddy marry + tubes(winter tire)is as lite as I will go. IMO, it's got to do with your riding weight and then type of riding/terrain. I ride BC all year round, it's unforgivable terrain on tires. All-in-all you could probably loose a lb+ from the rubber alone. The next thing I'd look at is the rims. Not too sure what they weigh but there is a good chuck of weight to trim there.

    Unfortunately from there, the $ to grams don't balance out, but if your willing to spend you should get anywhere between 30-33lbs with no problem.

    For perspective, my '11 large One weighs 34.6 lbs with 740g (summer WTB Tierwolf's) tires & 160ish tubes f&r. A 620g'ish dropper post, Renthal 780mm dh bars, Mavic 521's. But I have 640g XO carbon crankset. I reckon I could drop a pound without loosing the dropper post. As good as I'm willing to get it. Real world build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>
    That's ONE good looking build you have there!

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    Thanks Vin! I can't tell you how stoked I am to have this frame!
    And thanks bigcrs for the input. I'm more than happy with how she is now but I'm sure I'll be tweaking things here and there. I'm just loving the ride and finding my CCDB coil settings. I had to borrow a friends 450# spring to get proper sag since it came with a 350#(which was all that was available at the time of my order). I probably could use a 400 but I'll know for sure after a couple more adjustments. Then cut some weight with a Ti coil

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    Selling my 2011 Medium One for the 2012 Jedi if anyone is interested. For a super low price.
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    Was the head tube angle on the 2012 version ever confirmed as 65*? Sean told me the steepest you could get it without an angle set was about 65.5*, which would indicate a 64* head tube angle in the charts.

    I'm super new to mountain biking and this bike is gonna be a huge gift to myself, so I'm going all out for a first bike, and am wondering if I should consider a 1x10 setup, or just stick with a 2x10, being a noob and all. Looking at the Saint cranks in the various threads, I almost feel I'd be doing the bike an injustice, equipping it with the XT cranks I'd planned on getting, haha. 170mm or 180mm fork, for a general Trail/AM setup? Weighing options between a Lyrik and a Totem.

    Thanks in advance for any insight guys. I have an idea of what I want, but thought I should check with those who've been riding these for a while, and see where I might possibly be setting self up for regret.

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    Hey Heretic Skeptic,

    I have a 2012 the One. Great bike in every way.

    My Fork: 180mm Fox Float on mine. If you are doing more AM go for a 170. My setup leans more towards DH/FR even though it STILL climbs amazing.

    Drivetrain: 1x10 is great I am not going back to a front D again. The gearing IS taller though just be aware. Even with a 32t up front.

    "If" you have any interest. I may be selling my saint 170mm with BB and a 32t AND MRP Mini as a set. I might be going to carbon to drop some weight. If you have any interest PM me... no worries either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Was the head tube angle on the 2012 version ever confirmed as 65*? Sean told me the steepest you could get it without an angle set was about 65.5*, which would indicate a 64* head tube angle in the charts.

    I'm super new to mountain biking and this bike is gonna be a huge gift to myself, so I'm going all out for a first bike, and am wondering if I should consider a 1x10 setup, or just stick with a 2x10, being a noob and all. Looking at the Saint cranks in the various threads, I almost feel I'd be doing the bike an injustice, equipping it with the XT cranks I'd planned on getting, haha. 170mm or 180mm fork, for a general Trail/AM setup? Weighing options between a Lyrik and a Totem.

    Thanks in advance for any insight guys. I have an idea of what I want, but thought I should check with those who've been riding these for a while, and see where I might possibly be setting self up for regret.
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    Hey fauxfreeride! Thanks for hitting me back...I appreciate it.

    I've actually realized that I need to be content with what I have, especially seeing as my funds are very limited, considering I'm about to plunk down $2650 for a frame (how the heck did I get here, haha). I already have 2x10 shifters, SLX brakes, 10-speed cassette and so forth. Selling those to lose money and then spend extra to run a 1x10, or even a 2x10 Saint setup, is just me trying to build the "perfect bike" the first time, and it's completely unnecessary. I should probably be buying something like a $1750 Giant frame, and be happy I even have a bike of this caliber, but....naaaah, haha. You only live once (as far as we know)!

    So, I'm gonna either run a 2x10 XT or 2x10 SLX setup, 24-32, and 11-32 cassette, just to start. I'll likely swap to an 11-36 at some point, and once I start breaking drivetrain parts, I'll have a much better idea of whether I'm up to a 1x10, or 2x10 with a 22-36 setup. Seems practical, especially considering how new I am to the sport. I just need to decide on SLX vs XT. Price difference is $40, so I may as well go XT, but I've been wondering about durability vs SLX, which seems to be labeled as a workhorse type of series. Anyway....

    Direct mount Front D, dual pull sound right?

    What seatpost length are you all running (I noticed the seat tube is cut off that the bottom)? Can only afford Thomson at this point. Dropper in the near future, I hope.

    Wondering what setting I should run the rear shock at, if I'm to run a 170mm fork? 200mm rear and 170mm front seems like it may have some balance issues. Experiences? Thoughts?

    What angleset are folks finding works the best? I just caught wind of the Works Components brand, but have of course been looking at the Cane Creek and VP Varial anglesets as well. Definitely wanna get that head tube angle closer to 66*, so an angleset is a must.

    Lyrik @ 170mm, or Totem @ 170mm?

    Anyone know the stack for the Medium and Large sizes?

    Medium or Large, for 5'11", 32.5" inseam, for primarily Trail/AM rig, but of course will eventually try a DH setup from time to time? 17.3" reach seems loooong.

    Yeah...I think that about covers my "minor" questions and concerns, haha! Pardon the lengthy psot all...I just want do my very best to make sure I do it right the first time, and avoid returning items to get the right stuff. Any and all help is truly, truly appreciated.

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    I know single rings are all the rage now... I guess it depends a lot on what riding you're doing, and how strong you are. The only real advantage I see to a single is you can run a better chain guide. If you have a competent mechanic setting up your FD, throwing chains isn't a issue - which makes me wonder if lack of competent wrenches is the real problem. I use my granny gear <5% of the time, but I'd be walking otherwise. And I'd rather have a tighter cassette and a dual ring then the sloppy 11-36 range that's common now (with huge gaps between gears).

    XT vs SLX cranks: sure the XT is only $40 more (unless you shop around a bit), but I can't see anything you're actually getting for that money. Durability is the same, weight is close enough, shifting is equal, and the BB bearings are the same. Spend that $40 on something else (XT shifters, IMO are worth the difference over SLX).

    Having the same travel front and rear for the sake of "balance" is overblown. IMO the different travel settings on the one are better used for either rider weight (with heavier riders using the 7" setting, to reduce the leverage ratio, and therefor needing lower spring rate and damping) or style (8" more active, 7" firmer). You could run a 150f, 200r and it wouldn't bother you unless you were constantly thinking about it. The old (2009) one had 8" travel, with a max fork of 160.

    As for size, I'd ride as many bikes as you can and make note of the critical dimensions. Figure out what you want from them..
    I calculate stack as 23.75 on the med, 23.9 on the L, based on the dimensions Canfield lists. This with a 565mm fork (200 dual or 180 single crown), and a 16mm lower headset stack (which I believe would be less with an adjustable headset). The head tubes are really close in length, and the fork is the same, so I'd expect them to be similar.

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    Thanks Joules. You're feedback really helps me to stay grounded on what's important. Only part I falter on, is liking the way the XT cranks look more than the SLX. I know, I know...I'm a simple dude for that one.

    I can get the Lyrik or Totem for the same price. I think I'm gonna go Totem, even though I'll mostly ride Trail/AM, because I weigh 225 to 230 geared up, it will allow me to grow into the bike and ride damn near anything as I learn, and it is a coil fork. The Lyrik would be Solo Air, and while there's some weight savings there, I was gonna convert the Lyrik to coil anyway, hence added money and more work. Never imagined I'd basically be building a freeride bike months back, but here I am. Totem sound like a good idea, or am I perhaps gonna be to over-biked, in your opinion?

    Stack seems great, so no worries there, if those numbers check out. It's gonna boil down to fit/feel of the cockpit. Large seems more pedal-ready, with the longer seat tube and reach, while Medium would be more playful, though the reach is still very solid for an all-around rig. I think your idea to test ride bikes with similar numbers is a great one.

    Lots to think about, but the big ones are fork and frame, so i'll work towards figuring those out, and move forward from there.

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    I have a Boxxer on mine and don't feel like it's too much. I had a 160mm lyric from the old frame for a while, based on that, I'd definitely go toward the Totem over the lyric. And, in general it's easier to shorten forks than lengthen, if you got the Lyric and felt you out grew it, you're SOL, where if you got the totem and felt it was too much, or that you might grow into it, you could shorten it by 10mm (I believe someone on the Sram forum was talking about doing that).

    with the cranks, hey whatever spins your beanie. We all have aesthetic preferences (mine is just a deliberate industrial/"I don't give a damn about looks" -type).

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    Haha! I feel you on the looks comment. I think I just need t get it out of my system, and once I crash and mess the XTs up, I'll wish I had gotten the less costly cranks. I always heard new guys lust after looks more than function, so hopefully I'll get over it. Really though, it's just the simplicity of the straight black cranks that draws me in.

    Crossup runs a Boxxer full-time as well and says that works great for him. I can't afford it, but I'm actually wondering if the Boxxer might be more plush than the Totem, as it has 35mm stanchions, while the Totem has 40mm. Hoping the Totem isn't too stiff for everyday use.

    In the end, all of this **** is fantastic, and for someone as new as I am, I may as well just grab the stuff I'm leaning towards, because I have a lot to learn anyway. I figure in a few years, I'll know better what suits me, the bike and so forth. Then, my next component choices will be more on point, and I'll need to bother you guys way less about what to do. Just let me know that the Totem won't absolutely suck for trail riding, please. I am 225 to 230 geared up, so I'm imagining the inherent stiffness won't bother me as much as a lighter rider, though I could just be fooling self.

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    I got my boxxer largely on crossup's recommendation. There are some bumping around ebay for pretty good prices. Mine is a WC, I paid about $900 for it all told (shipping, and it didn't come with the tall crown, so I bought one from someone who got both with his, but didn't need it).

    it sounds like you might not be on the same page when talking about fork stiffness. Generally what people mean is stiffness in directions other than the travel i.e., twisting, side-to-side and front-to-back flex. I don't really think there's such a thing as "too stiff" in a suspension fork. It's more that additional stiffness carries a weight penalty, so you usually just want "stiff enough." The spring and damper will determine how plush your fork is, not really the stanchion diameter.

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    You got a crazy deal on that Boxxer. Ever tried the Fox 40? That seems to be one Fox fork that people prefer over the Rockshox offering, but it's too rich for my blood. WC vs R2C2 is basically air vs coil, or is there more to it? Has to be, with the price difference. All of the 8" forks look serious as hell.

    Thank you for clearing that up, because I definitely was not on the same page. The stiffness concept makes a lot more sense now. I think I can hack the extra pound, for less worry during unskilled drops and jumps, hahaha. It'll be a great learning experience, as we talked about, and I won't feel as though the bike is lacking anything. Any apprehension will be all about me. Noe that you cleared that up, I think I'd actually prefer the Totem on The One. It's a bit burlier than the standard AM bikes, so it may deserve a burlier fork.

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    Seatpost: I have a Spec blacklite 125 on mine. Great clearance. I am 6'2" on a large.
    My headset is not a CC angle and with the 180 fork and a CCDB in 8"
    MY HA is 64.5 (I think).

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    Thanks! For the seatpost, I meant the total length, but I don;t think it matters as much for droppers. Trying to determine if a 410mm is too long, basically.

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    So, who in the Seattle area has a Canfield One they'd be willing to let me test ride, to get a feel for the sizing and suspension action? I'd be eternally indebted to you! I think Sean's got a medium up in Bellingham, but anyone with a medium or large, pleeeease let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    So, who in the Seattle area has a Canfield One they'd be willing to let me test ride, to get a feel for the sizing and suspension action? I'd be eternally indebted to you! I think Sean's got a medium up in Bellingham, but anyone with a medium or large, pleeeease let me know.
    I'm in Vancouver with a large 2011. 50mm stem, 160 fork and an Avy air shock. Your more than welcome to have a rip on it if your up this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    So, who in the Seattle area has a Canfield One they'd be willing to let me test ride, to get a feel for the sizing and suspension action? I'd be eternally indebted to you! I think Sean's got a medium up in Bellingham, but anyone with a medium or large, pleeeease let me know.
    I'd be happy to let you ride mine once it's done. Waiting on one part that I should have by the end of next week. I'm in Seattle. Last I checked Sean doesn't have a One right now.

    Also, I'd recommend contacting them directly and seeing if you can go up to the Ham and pick it up when you buy it. It's a fun experience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I'm in Vancouver with a large 2011. 50mm stem, 160 fork and an Avy air shock. Your more than welcome to have a rip on it if your up this way.
    Vancouver, BC, or Vancouver, WA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    I'd be happy to let you ride mine once it's done. Waiting on one part that I should have by the end of next week. I'm in Seattle. Last I checked Sean doesn't have a One right now.

    Also, if I were you I'd recommend contacting them directly and seeing if you can go up to the Ham and pick it up when you buy it.
    I was thinking about that (striking it up to Bellingham to grab the frame).

    What size you building up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Was the head tube angle on the 2012 version ever confirmed as 65*? Sean told me the steepest you could get it without an angle set was about 65.5*, which would indicate a 64* head tube angle in the charts.
    Just looking at the geo charts now. For the 2012 One the HTA is 65*. That is for any fork with a axle to crown of 565mm. (fox 40, marz 66, boxxer) So with an angle set you would get 66.5 max.

    FYI,

    160mm fork AC 545mm = 66 hta
    170mm fork AC 555mm = 65.5 hta
    180mm & some 200mm forks 565mm = 65 hta

    For a 20mm change to the fork length there would be a one degree change with the HTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    I was thinking about that (striking it up to Bellingham to grab the frame).

    What size you building up?
    It's a medium black/blue. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...01141647_n.jpg

    Do you have a bike now? We could go to Duthie on Saturday and you could try my Jedi.

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    Thanks bigcrs! I actually knew all of that (except for confirmation on the head tube angle), but thank you for being willing to help a brotha out!

    Wonder why Sean told me the slackest you could get it with 1.5* angleset is 65.5. Was planning on asking him today. Either way, looks like you can definitely get into the 66* area, which is plenty steep enough for AM riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    It's a medium black/blue. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...01141647_n.jpg

    Do you have a bike now? We could go to Duthie on Saturday and you could try my Jedi.
    That frame is looking reeeeal right man! Congrats! I would love to go to Duthie, but I just caught a dang cold. If I shake it by Saturday, I will definitely meet you up there! It's nothing too bad, but I don't wanna pass it on.

    I only have a hardtail (Scott Scale), but I could hit some of the easier stuff, and/or we could do a few loops of Bootcamp, which is about all I've ever done up at Duthie (was there for this past summer's Demo Day). In other words, I'm a puuuure noob, haha. Extremely ready to try just about everything though.

    I'll inbox you my info, and we'll get together this Saturay, or sometime the following week at the latest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    That frame is looking reeeeal right man! Congrats! I would love to go to Duthie, but I just caught a dang cold. If I shake it by Saturday, I will definitely meet you up there! It's nothing too bad, but I don't wanna pass it on.

    I only have a hardtail (Scott Scale), but I could hit some of the easier stuff, and/or we could do a few loops of Bootcamp, which is about all I've ever done up at Duthie (was there for this past summer's Demo Day). In other words, I'm a puuuure noob, haha. Extremely ready to try just about everything though.

    I'll inbox you my info, and we'll get together this Saturay, or sometime the following week at the latest.
    I've already got the cold and I'll be riding this weekend regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Thanks bigcrs! I actually knew all of that (except for confirmation on the head tube angle), but thank you for being willing to help a brotha out!

    Wonder why Sean told me the slackest you could get it with 1.5* angleset is 65.5. Was planning on asking him today. Either way, looks like you can definitely get into the 66* area, which is plenty steep enough for AM riding.
    No worries! It's good to hear that there are more One's in the PNW! We should all catch up for a ride and brew!

    I have mine '11 setup with a 160mm and zero stack. I believe its around the 65.5 mark. And for the AM riding I do it's killer. Very aggressive, perfect for the mountains around Vancouver.

    Sean probably has a thousand different numbers running around in his head at any given second, an easy mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    I've already got the cold and I'll be riding this weekend regardless
    HAHA!! Well, there it is! Let's do it! What time you thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    No worries! It's good to hear that there are more One's in the PNW! We should all catch up for a ride and brew!

    I have mine '11 setup with a 160mm and zero stack. I believe its around the 65.5 mark. And for the AM riding I do it's killer. Very aggressive, perfect for the mountains around Vancouver.

    Sean probably has a thousand different numbers running around in his head at any given second, an easy mistake.
    Indeed bro! Sounds like we already have a small tribe adding up. I'll most certainly be the weakest link, but I'm all for it!

    You make a good point: He's was likely thinking 2011, and/or thinking, "It really doesn't matter man....once he gets one, he'll ride it at 63.5* ANYWHERE!" Ha!

    You in WA, or BC? They're actually about equidistant from where I presently sit typing, but just wondering. Definitely not too far to come try the large! Beats guessing, any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    HAHA!! Well, there it is! Let's do it! What time you thinking?
    Not sure yet... late morning probably. Also weather dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    Not sure yet... late morning probably. Also weather dependent.
    Yep, yep. We'll get it figured out.

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    So can you run these Works Components anglesets in plus or minus direction (slackened hta or steepened hta)? I read somewhere that they aren't adjustable, and didn't get what that meant, but was hoping the guy meant you cannot adjust in half-degree increments, which would not bother me at all. I'd be at roughly 66* with an external bottom cup and 1.5* angleset, which is the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    So can you run these Works Components anglesets in plus or minus direction (slackened hta or steepened hta)? I read somewhere that they aren't adjustable, and didn't get what that meant, but was hoping the guy meant you cannot adjust in half-degree increments, which would not bother me at all. I'd be at roughly 66* with an external bottom cup and 1.5* angleset, which is the goal.
    You can run Works backwards. They just don't adjust the angle like a cane creek.

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    Got you. Just gotta remove fork and turn it around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Got you. Just gotta remove fork and turn it around?
    More like you re-install the headset cups backwards. It's kind of a process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    More like you re-install the headset cups backwards. It's kind of a process.
    Oh yeah, that's what I envisioned...I just kind of typed it out in a way that made it seem like it was a cakewalk, haha! My bad. Based on reviews and pricing, that seems like the way to go.

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    Its time to buy a better headset

    Just got a 40% off flyer from Bike Stop and expected the usual ****** on big discount but dayum...how about the VP Varial in 'our' size(ZS49-ZS49/30) for.......big drum roll.........
    $149.85
    I am SO all over that...CC 3 settings Angleset for sale, hehe

    Did I mention free Fedex shipping, break out you big stick, its gonna be hard to be this one
    No longer impressed with Works Components prices...sorry UK, my bucks stay here
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossup View Post
    Just got a 40% off flyer from Bike Stop and expected the usual ****** on big discount but dayum...how about the VP Varial in 'our' size(ZS49-ZS49/30) for.......big drum roll.........
    $149.85
    I am SO all over that...CC 3 settings Angleset for sale, hehe
    Killer find! Only 186g's, very interesting indeed.

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    Hmmmm...thats the only thing I DON'T like...the CC is 132g nearly 2 oz less...sure thats nothing but my bike is light because I count the grams- comes from flying hiperf RC model planes
    But you can be sure I can live with the weight penalty, which will even be higher if my current riding tool kit doesn't include the proper allen wrenchs to trail adjust the Varial.

    And when you guys find CC's for less just remember I bought the .05/1.0/1.5 Angleset..still around $200 and not convenient to adjust at all....mines been good to me(noise free) but there's a reason they call'em CANE CREAK(pun intented)

    Guess I forgot not every one is running a dual crown..so sorry to anyone who got excited but has a tapered steerer


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    Killer find! Only 186g's, very interesting indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossup View Post
    Hmmmm...thats the only thing I DON'T like...the CC is 132g nearly 2 oz less...sure thats nothing but my bike is light because I count the grams- comes from flying hiperf RC model planes
    But you can be sure I can live with the weight penalty, which will even be higher if my current riding tool kit doesn't include the proper allen wrenchs to trail adjust the Varial.

    And when you guys find CC's for less just remember I bought the .05/1.0/1.5 Angleset..still around $200 and not convenient to adjust at all....mines been good to me(noise free) but there's a reason they call'em CANE CREAK(pun intented)

    Guess I forgot not every one is running a dual crown..so sorry to anyone who got excited but has a tapered steerer
    Ive been looking for some info about this..

    I want to put an adjustable headset in but I heard negative reviews on the CC, mainly that it makes noises, creaking and popping, and that generally its not good for DH/FR use.

    Is this VP Varial a better headset for DH/FR? I put my bike through a lot of abuse and want to make sure it'll hold up.

    Lastly, what size am I looking for? I have the '11 One and a '12 888 with a 1 1/8" steer tube. I want to go with an EC lower cup to try and help bring the bottom bracket up a little.

    Thanks!

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    Well l sure don't know as I just ordered my VP unit. One thing I'd say is a 250 pound aggressive rider is going to have more trouble with any part than little ole me at 150.
    VP rates it for long travel freeride use, which to my thinking is close enough unless perhaps you race and are an animal/alien.
    Seeing how it works and how its made tells me its as strong as any headset and I'd be more concerned with the bearing used. And that can be changed, bet its a pretty standard size.
    Of course I'll be the guinea pig, but I can't test for heavy riders nor guys who jump so high they need oxygen masks.
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    UPS delivered this yesterday I'll post up pictures once I get the build started. Thanks Sean!


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    You are gonna luv that 9t on the one!
    I got more bikes than skills, son!

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    Awsome! The 9 tooth is killer. What are your going to run as a front ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Awsome! The 9 tooth is killer. What are your going to run as a front ring?
    Bling ring? They are finally available again...

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    I've got a 28t MRP Bling Ring on the way. Just shipped from MRP yesterday. I'm trying to build it up as a semi light DH bike that can still climb when needed.

    Parts I'm using:

    Spank Spike Evo 35 w/Hope pro 2 front and Canfield 9t rear hub
    Boxxer R2C2
    X0 Brakes 200mm F/R
    X0 shifter
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    X0 crank with 28t Bling Ring
    Answer Protaper DH
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    Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 tires
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Canfield Crampons in purple as soon as they are available

    I'm going to try both the CCDB and Vector HLR and see which I like better.

    Still deciding on headset
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    I've got a 28t MRP Bling Ring on the way. Just shipped from MRP yesterday. I'm trying to build it up as a semi light DH bike that can still climb when needed.

    Parts I'm using:

    Spike Spank Evo 35 w/Hope pro 2 front and Canfield 9t rear hub
    Boxxer R2C2
    X0 Brakes 200mm F/R
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    X0 short cage rear D
    X0 crank with 28t Bling Ring
    Answer Protaper DH
    Giant Contact DH direct mount stem
    Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 tires
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Canfield Crampons in purple as soon as they are available

    I'm going to try both the CCDB and Vector HLR and see which I like better.

    Still deciding on headset
    Nice build! My bling ring shipped yesterday too, I was waiting for 3 weeks, so once I have that my One will be ready.

    Lyrik 170 dh air
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    x7/x9 mix

    I've weighed everything and think it will be about 32lbs.

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    Micro drive + 28t Bling + XO =

    I was a little worried about range, but after racing that combo on a fast course all my worries were left in the dust.

    Very reliable hub, very happy with the Micro Drive.

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    bigcrs - That's great to hear. Can't wait to try it out for myself.

    I think my build is going to end up in the 35-36lb range. I'll be interested to see how it climbs, even though I'm setting it up as a DH bike.
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    Can everyone who has a 2012 One share their crank length and experiences? Thinking of going with 165mm cranks. I tested a Specialized Status earlier today, as it has almost precisely the same geo as the One, and it comes stock with 165mm cranks. I had no issue with them at all, but this was a parking lot test ride, so it would be nice to get feedback from you guys that have been on the trails with the One.

    Due to the test ride, however, I did manage to figure out that I want a Large One. Still looking forward to testing the suspension on either one of the bikes Sean and Vin bring down to Seattle, or Eric's build once that is complete. But yeah....no way I'd be a medium, and I really knew this in my heart, but was apprehensive about the wheelbase. The Status had a longer wheelbase in Large (almost 48" I believe), and this only made me happier, haha! I'm a noob, so stability trumps speed, cornering, etc without question. I loved the way the cockpit and bike felt, and though the suspension designs are clearly different, the geo was so similar (reach, effective top tube, seat tube length, bar width, stem length, wheelbase), that I am certain a Large is the way to go. Just need to sort out crank length and decide on color (Black/Blue vs Silver/Black), and I'm set!

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    Thing you have to remember about cornering, nimbleness etc is that this is a sub 40 pound bicycle. Its not hard to over come stability, which does come into play when its a 240 pound dirt bike. Stability is your friend and I believe contrary to the geometry in XC bikes, it enhances low speed control and ease of control as you have less concerns with balance.

    Crankwise, lots of bikes come with shorter cranks, especially in the small sizes. My Pitch had either 170 or 165 and I'm pretty sure thats what I bought to replace it which is what I run on my ONE. You can gain some crank lenght buy using Crampon pedals too while still reducing pedal strikes compared to thick pedals.
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    im 6", riding a large with 170mm cranks, 40mm stem and 760 mm bars with a 160 mm fox van upfront.
    pedaling is awesome when you time it right, i can see how i could go with 165 mm cranks, but im good with 170mm :P

    if you wanna pedal in rockgardens, get a 165mm crank with the crampon ultimate pedals.
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    Got my bling ring! Going to install the cranks, bleed my front brake and throw the rear tire on tonight!

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    Still waiting on some parts and my wheels to be built, but I had to do something on it, lol.
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    Nice touch, 28t bling?

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    less is more

    Enjoy...

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/52052428?badge=0" width="500" height="213" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/52052428">Canfield Brothers The One</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user12984166">Canfield Brothers</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> <p>http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/frames/the-one<br /> <br /> Designed to be the &ldquo;ONE&rdquo; bike for the Aggressive rider. 6.5&Prime; front and rear for the All Mountain rider. 7&Prime; front and rear for the perfect do all Freeride. 8&Prime; front and rear setting for the best pedaling and cornering Light Downhill race machine on the market.<br /> <br /> Tuned with the &ldquo;ONE&rdquo; suspension; the black magic of pedaling perfection in all gears &ndash; up or downhill &ndash; standing or seating. Nothing but 100 percent power to the rear wheel. Canfield Brothers has spent 11 years perfecting parallel link suspension technology &ndash; longer than any current parallel link suspension on the market &ndash; Giving you the pedaling performance you never dreamed was possible.</p>

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    Nice!

    Part two will have some killer riding segment eh???

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    Sick!

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    I'm not finished yet, but it's at least starting to look like a bike. Waiting on my rear casette and need to do some cable routing and work. Also need to send the fork off to get an Avalanche cartridge.






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    Sweet job xpeppyx. I've been holding back but pretty sure I am pulling my 180 off for next year and trying a dual crown on my 12.

    Good luck with it!
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    Yeah xpeppyx... LOVING your black and purple build! The links and Ultimates look SO good together! Great job!

    BE sure to send us some riding shots once you get the beast dirty!

    Vin

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    XO DH question.

    Just got my 28t bling and micro G3. Was curious how you guys like the carbon cranks on your Ones?

    Thanks!
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    Beautiful color combo xpeppyx

    Throw a micro guide and you have even more BB clearance!

    Loving the skulls on the fork too!

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    i did a review on my canfield one 2012

    Canfield one mountain bike review - YouTube

    my first and only review of anything

    i kept breaking the XX1 chain, so now I am running a shimano 11 speed chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    i did a review on my canfield one 2012

    Canfield one mountain bike review - YouTube

    my first and only review of anything
    Nice review (and setup)... Ridden my One many times down j-drop and it absolutely slays it every time!

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    j-drop is a really good and tough trail, just getting to it and out from it is a bit of a pain. in my opinion definitely the most difficult local trail.

    Haven't really had a chance to push the one on that trail yet, still busy fiddling away with my shock and fork, getting close to dialed in now.

    rode it pretty cautiously in video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    i did a review on my canfield one 2012

    Canfield one mountain bike review - YouTube

    my first and only review of anything

    i kept breaking the XX1 chain, so now I am running a shimano 11 speed chain.
    Good job

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    First time Canfield owner

    2013 CCDBA should be on its way soon. Hopefully I will have it built up in the next few weeks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    I'm not finished yet, but it's at least starting to look like a bike. Waiting on my rear casette and need to do some cable routing and work. Also need to send the fork off to get an Avalanche cartridge.
    Very nice!

    I wanted to go purple as well but I think I will go orange to match my new truck.

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    Thanks Supra, it's actually done now. Hopefully I'll be able to test ride it tomorrow


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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    Thanks Supra, it's actually done now. Hopefully I'll be able to test ride it tomorrow

    Awesome bike! Little much black/contrast when shoppin
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    Has anybody run a 650b wheel up front on a One? What fork did you run and did you like, dislike it? Coming off a Lenz 29er and I've grown to like larger wheels just not 29er large, seems like the 650b up front could be a good option but im worried that the bike might be to slack for climbing and have wheel flop? The 650 rim is only 1" larger than the 26 so the wheel will only sit about 13mm higher than a 26, if I use a shorter travel fork like a 170 then it should sit about as tall as a 180 fork. Thought about a Fox Talas 180, then the fork will sit about as high as a Fox 40 and in the 140 position it would be like a 150mm fork. Any thoughts?

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    I've been thinking the same thing of late. Currently have a 170mm 66 of my one and I have previously used a 2.8 Michelin Comp 32 with the fork. Just guessing but that tire is absolutely massive and I'd be willing to bet that it is bigger than say a 650b 2.35 Hans Dampf? May have to take some measurements with it mounted and get to the bottom of this. I do recall loving that tire and it's ride qualities and am starting to suspect it may partially have been because it's diameter allowed me to roll certain terrain that a smaller tire would get hung up on. As I'm usually running my One in 7" mode I could also use a slightly higher bb. Does anyone have a guess as to how much my bb height would rise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused View Post
    Has anybody run a 650b wheel up front on a One? What fork did you run and did you like, dislike it? Coming off a Lenz 29er and I've grown to like larger wheels just not 29er large, seems like the 650b up front could be a good option but im worried that the bike might be to slack for climbing and have wheel flop? The 650 rim is only 1" larger than the 26 so the wheel will only sit about 13mm higher than a 26, if I use a shorter travel fork like a 170 then it should sit about as tall as a 180 fork. Thought about a Fox Talas 180, then the fork will sit about as high as a Fox 40 and in the 140 position it would be like a 150mm fork. Any thoughts?
    I ran my 2011 ONE 650b front ans back... with 2.1 neo-motos(Pacentti) Used both the 66 from Marzzochi and the Xfusion 650b/26 vengance no issue with either. I don't think you can put a 650 rear on the 2012 though

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    I thought the geometry from 11 to 12 was pretty much the same but only slightly higher BB. What would change that the frame could no longer accommodate a 659 b tire?

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    It was already a close fit on my 2011 but I think when they changed the brace in the rear triangle it lost that gap. I know a few have tried it on the '12 but wouldn't fit.

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    Just finished this week. I havent popped its cherry yet as I am out of town this weekend
    I will probably get some more pics next weekend!

    View better quality and larger on PB

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    Getting close to finishing my 2012 One light DH build. It's going to be my park bike plus some of are knarlier rocky trails bike. I got a Type 2 X9 medium cage RD and can't seem to figure out how it will clear the 36T cassette. I thought I had confirmed that med cage was good (this is CB 9T hub and 28tooth bling ring).

    This is my first ever bike build, but I've been pretty successful in adjusting RD and FDs before.

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    Mine is set up the same rear derailleur and 36 tooth with a 28 or 32 up front. No issues. Set your low and high limits and double check the B tension screw for jockey wheel clearance on the 36 tooth cog

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    I have a X0 short cage and it clears the 36t quite nicely. 28t bling ring up front and 9-36 in the back

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    They are all out of black 12's... I've been trying to find a used medium but people are holding on to these things like gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpca10 View Post
    They are all out of black 12's... I've been trying to find a used medium but people are holding on to these things like gold.
    I believe the 2013's are only a couple of months away, I bet if your willing to wait you'll get the black you want....

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    2012 One!!!-img_0514_3.jpg2012 One!!!-img_0518_2.jpg

    LOVE this bike! Great climber, great descender. Climbs at least as well as my 26" Bandit.

    Highlights:

    -33 lbs. even
    -medium frame
    -CC DBair is using the factory-supplied compression and rebound settings.
    -CK Inset 5 headset
    -Vengeance 170 HLR air fork
    -SixC 785mm bar
    -Havoc 50mm stem
    -XT 775 brakes with 180 rotors front/back, Goodridge hoses
    -Same XO/Bling Ring/11-36t drive train that many are using. Crank length is 170mm and that seems plenty short.
    -Crampon Ultimate pedals (GREAT pedals!)
    -Flow rims (non-EX version)
    -Sapim Force spokes
    -Hope Pro 2 Evo front hub
    -CK 142x12 rear hub
    -Muddy Mary 2.35's trailstar compound, tubeless

    Bottom bracket height is 14.0" in the 8" travel setting and 13.5" in the 7" travel setting with the 565mm a-to-c fork and external lower cup headset.

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    Simple, clean and good looking sums up that build! You will enjoy that ride, Congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsullivan View Post
    Simple, clean and good looking sums up that build! You will enjoy that ride, Congrats
    Thank you! It's definitely a fun bike and I'm looking forward to riding the hell out of it.

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    A bit pre-mature photo shoot, but after putting the wheels on, was excited to take some photos. Still got some cable work to do, all the chain, bleed the brakes and set up for fit, but still photo worthy.

    Was a bit shocked by the weight...my scale says 38lbs as seated. That is with the CCDB, DH tubes, 2.5" DH tires...but expected < 35lbs. Then again my scale could be off.

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    Nice job. I'd be a little shocked too, you've spent some coin. By the looks of it, that should be 36ish as it sits. What size frame, and is that a world cup? Ditch the tubes and go tubeless and get some Ti on that shock. Then I'd weigh it with a different scale.....

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    Thanks. Yeah I spent some coin. I really only opted for the ENVE rims cause I thought they could run tubeless like my AM ones on my all around bike (they can't according to ENVE). Also, ENVE has supposedly some of the best CS and durability (despite that one PB review). I am a tad regretful for the decision TBH cause 823s could run tubeless easy and the DH tubes probably make up a large part of the difference in #s. They are also a royal PITA to get tires onto! I did a lot of swearing this morning.

    Its a WC air fork. I was planning on a Ti shock cause, WTH, I've spent enough already, why not go for broke? Truth is, I only spend a lot on my hobbies and have a good job, so in the end I think it works out well. My car was $5k. haha.

    I knew the tires/tubes and shock were on the heavy side, which is ok, as I have a season pass to our local lift access. I didn't expect it to be quite so heavy.

    Parts list off hand is:
    Deity Dirty30 bars
    XT brakes
    Hayes rotors
    ENVE DH rims, CK front, CB 9t rear
    X9 cranks + bling ring + micro guide
    X9 RD
    Maxxis DHF, front 42a, rear 60a
    Maxxis DH tubes
    Thompson seatpost
    Deity direct mount stem.
    ODI Rogue grips
    WTB saddle
    Hope QR seatclamp
    Twenty6 Ti Predator pedals (only thing, the pins don't last near rocks and they tenderize any flesh)

    First bike I've ever built. Learning process!

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    It's a sick build for sure! I'm a bit like you, a lot of my coin go's into bikes. The amount I have spent on different suspension setups alone would pay for carbon rims. It's a healthy hobby.

    Your going to have a blast on that rig, I love my One. I'm really looking forward to my next The One!

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    Oh man, ditch the DH tubes and get some light or even just normal tubes. You do not need DH tubes when running DH tires and that right there will save you 2 pounds. If you are that worried about pinch flats then maybe DH tube in rear but at that point you aren't that worried about weight.

    My One is at 34.5 lbs with a totem air, xfusion vector with ti coil. Muddy Mary FR tire up front tubeless and a tubed rear Schwalbe with snakeskin but single ply. Other parts are comparable but my wheels are Stans Flow ex so likely a little heavier than yours. You can easily find some weight to lose in there and my money lies with your rubber setup.

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    My build is a lot like yours and it came in at 35.5lbs. Same bars, stem, ccdb, seatpost. I have a boxxer coil and carbon crank arms but I'm running tubeless. My wheels are probably heavier too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbalanced View Post

    Parts list off hand is:
    Deity Dirty30 bars
    XT brakes
    Hayes rotors
    ENVE DH rims, CK front, CB 9t rear
    X9 cranks + bling ring + micro guide
    X9 RD
    Maxxis DHF, front 42a, rear 60a
    Maxxis DH tubes
    Thompson seatpost
    Deity direct mount stem.
    ODI Rogue grips
    WTB saddle
    Hope QR seatclamp
    Twenty6 Ti Predator pedals (only thing, the pins don't last near rocks and they tenderize any flesh)
    Cheaper WTB saddles are heavy as hell. You could save up to 200ish grams on the saddle alone if it's a particularly heavy one. Ancient Hayes rotors are pretty chunky compared to SRAM or Shimano's current stuff as far as rotors go.

    Those are the two biggest things that stand out to my weight weenie filter other than going tubeless. My One was 32.5 lbs with light tires. It has an air Lyrik, a CCDB-Air, and AM rims though.
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