I got ripped off!

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  • 08-20-2012
    butterface
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    I got ripped off!
    To whom it may concern. My family and I were MTBing around Angel island (Tiburon,SanFrancisco area) yesterday (8-19-2012) and then went into the city to eat and at the end of the day,we parked our car and locked up our bikes with a 15' cable through both sets of rims,frames,and in and around the bike rack itself and when we got back to our car the cable and bike racks were cut and the bikes were gone. We filed a police report and went home sick to our stomach's never wanting to go back to the city EVER AGAIN!. We are from the Sacramento area and we aren't immune to this sort of thing happening to us as a matter of fact this is not the first time I have had bikes stolen from me.

    So here's a rundown of the bike's. My bike was an older 2004 Cannodale "Chase" black frame, Shimano Deore lx cranks 175mm,36tooth front sprocket,white MRP chain guide,shimano Saint trigger shifter,Thompson Elite seat post,Red Black Market riser bars, Red Black Ops low profile pedals,Juicy seven Hydraulic disc brakes with over sized rotors front and rear,Red Azonic Outlaws rims,WTB WeirWolves tires(the front tire was a tubeless but it had a tube in it, the rear was a regular non tubeless) ODI Rogue locking grips with black lock rings,and an older Fox Talon 36mm stanchion front fork that was a faded Brown color.

    My wifes bike was a Silver with Turquoise graphics 2009 Specialized Myka FSR cmp it was basically stock with the exception of the Turquoise Azonic pedals and ODI locking grips.

    I am an avid mountain biker usually in the Auburn Foresthill ravine area. My bikes were worth more than my car! Please be on the lookout I have photos and serial numbers and can identify little dings and dents for proof that these bikes are mine.I will pay a reward if found. The photo above of the cannondale was taken before I put the Fox Talon and Black market riser bars on.
  • 08-20-2012
    butterface
    the photo also doesn't show the Deore lx crankset
  • 08-20-2012
    Oliver
    That sucks, but you can never leave your bikes unattended even if you lock them to your car.
  • 08-21-2012
    recitio
    Sorry to hear that you got jacked. That sucks.

    I think that this type of chain is somewhat safe. I wrap through my frame and connect with massive hardened steel locks to my vehicle. Leave it unattended in my truck all of the time. To cut through this type of chain, I believe that powered equipment is required.

    A cable lock is literally useless, I'm sorry to say. Cable locks can be cut in two seconds. Thick, hardened, non-round steel or I won't let it out of my sight.
  • 08-21-2012
    Mr.Magura
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    I think that this type of chain is somewhat safe. I wrap through my frame and connect with massive hardened steel locks to my vehicle. Leave it unattended in my truck all of the time. To cut through this type of chain, I believe that powered equipment is required.

    A cable lock is literally useless, I'm sorry to say. Cable locks can be cut in two seconds. Thick, hardened, non-round steel or I won't let it out of my sight.

    If you think that chain is safe, you're in for a surprise.


    Magura :)
  • 08-21-2012
    recitio
    : |

    Cutting 3/8" hardened boron alloy steel square link Italian security chain with just 36" bolt cutter - YouTube

    At least it requires heavier equipment than casual thieves typically carry (I think?).
  • 08-21-2012
    Mr.Magura
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    : |

    Cutting 3/8" hardened boron alloy steel square link Italian security chain with just 36" bolt cutter - YouTube

    At least it requires heavier equipment than casual thieves typically carry (I think?).

    Unfortunately not any longer :(

    Electrical bolt cutters are cheap and small these days.

    The only way to get around the small battery powered bolt cutters, is to either have a chain that is too big for them to grab on to.

    That would call for an angle grinder, and quite some time. Most scumbags would give up in that case.....I hope.

    Magura :)
  • 08-21-2012
    recitio
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    The only way to get around the small battery powered bolt cutters, is to either have a chain that is too big for them to grab on to.

    Would 9/16 be large enough?

    Woahhhh: Cutting operation

    These work on hardened steel too?
  • 08-21-2012
    Mr.Magura
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    Would 9/16 be large enough?

    Woahhhh: Cutting operation

    These work on hardened steel too?

    They work hardened steel too, if the scumbag don't care for the bolt cutters that is.

    5/8 is the biggest common size, so you gotta get above that diameter, for them to simply be unable to get the chain in between the jaws of the bolt cutter.

    Having said that, I would guess that most scumbags don't have a bolt cutter with adequate power to cut 1/2" hardened chain.

    Magura :)
  • 08-21-2012
    Kristatos
    I feel bad for the OP and will of course keep an eye out on CL for those bikes.

    SF is ground zero for bike theft. Cars often have the entire roof rack including bikes stolen when the bikes are well chained to the rack. The only way to prevent bike theft in SF is to keep your bike between your legs. It's not safe in or on your car out of sight for even 5 minutes.
  • 08-21-2012
    Vader
    Heres something i'd like to see. How about setting up a decoy bike with a remotely activated exploding seat, like an airbag. I wouldn't be able to stop laughing. To the OP, sorry about the bikes. Hopefully you have homeowner's or renter's insurance.
  • 08-21-2012
    Oliver
    Some bike thief's carry these. It will get the job done. Most people will watch it happen. Here is video proof.

    Ryobi Power Tools :: 18 Volt One+

    Bike theft - YouTube
  • 08-22-2012
    Mr.Magura
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oliver View Post
    Some bike thief's carry these. It will get the job done. Most people will watch it happen. Here is video proof.

    Ryobi Power Tools :: 18 Volt One+

    Bike theft - YouTube

    Well, if the chain is just hardened, but not nitrated, it will get the job don.
    If nitrated, it will take a couple of discs, and be pretty hard to do.


    The simple solution as to how, the angle grinders can be eliminated from the equation, is to braid aramid into the chain. If a scumbag tries cutting such a setup with an angle grinder, he will simply loose his tool, as it will be wrapped up into the aramid real quick.
    Cutting aramid is pretty hard to do, so you will end up with a lock with an angular grinder attachment :D


    Magura :)
  • 08-22-2012
    recitio
    Check out this bad boy:

    Lockitt.com Protector 19mm High Security Hardened Boron Steel chain - 6.5' (2m) length

    Is boron hardening inferior to nitriding?
  • 08-22-2012
    Mr.Magura
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    Check out this bad boy:

    Lockitt.com Protector 19mm High Security Hardened Boron Steel chain - 6.5' (2m) length

    Is boron hardening inferior to nitriding?

    It's something similar as I recall.

    If you really want something that works, get yourself a piece of hardened chain, go have it nitride surface hardened, braid it up with some aramid, and find a cat. 10 padlock from a company like Abus.
    That will make 98% of the scumbags give up.


    Magura :)
  • 08-25-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    Sorry to hear that you got jacked. That sucks.

    I think that this type of chain is somewhat safe. I wrap through my frame and connect with massive hardened steel locks to my vehicle. Leave it unattended in my truck all of the time. To cut through this type of chain, I believe that powered equipment is required.

    A cable lock is literally useless, I'm sorry to say. Cable locks can be cut in two seconds. Thick, hardened, non-round steel or I won't let it out of my sight.

    That is the exact chain I use with a thick hardened Krypto padlock. To be doubly safe I have a Kryptonite 3/4" cable with the same hardened thick padlock. Nothing is foolproof but like you said that chain would require a power tool to cut. O.P. good luck in getting them back. Getting ripped off is one of the worst feelings in the world.
  • 08-26-2012
    flipnidaho
    This is interesting...
    Product | Tigr Lock
  • 08-26-2012
    Mr.Magura
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flipnidaho View Post
    This is interesting...
    Product | Tigr Lock

    Not really. A scratch with a knife, and you can break it with a pair of adjustable spanners.

    That is the problem with titanium. It is very kerf sensitive.


    Magura :)
  • 08-26-2012
    DIRTJUNKIE
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  • 08-29-2012
    superpd150
    Sorry to hear about your loss. May the do'er of this deed get anal-warts.
  • 08-31-2012
    gooseman310
    sucks to hear bikes get cut down peps rides had that happen to a friend in his niegborhood but bikes where not in line of sight i always have bikes in my line of sight next to a window where i or we can see our DH bikes dont want to feel like you did like i did in the 80s when my lil BMX got ripped off when that was the kind of bikes gettin ripped off
  • 08-31-2012
    the-one1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gooseman310 View Post
    sucks to hear bikes get cut down peps rides had that happen to a friend in his niegborhood but bikes where not in line of sight i always have bikes in my line of sight next to a window where i or we can see our DH bikes dont want to feel like you did like i did in the 80s when my lil BMX got ripped off when that was the kind of bikes gettin ripped off

    "punch you asian"
  • 08-31-2012
    gooseman310
    hope u aint refering to me foolio!!...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the-one1 View Post
    "punch you asian"

    no sticky rice here puro Chorizo on this end Son!..
  • 09-06-2012
    Call_me_Tom
    If you have home owners or renters insurance they normally cover stolen bikes. I have USAA & they'll cover the bike anywhere & everywhere along with any upgrades.
  • 09-11-2012
    danielsdtwo
    Try to find it at the Oakland swap meet and craigslist
  • 09-11-2012
    Dirtrider127
    OP- any update on the bike?