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    What's ok to post here and what isn't?

    Are there any clear rules on the subject or should we all just use our best judgment?

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    your judgment kinda sucks, maybe you shouldn't just post if you're going to invent organizations that sound like the KKK and then try to rant without really making sense. Alot of people were confused by your posting.

    I thought you were high...

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    apparently I am not allowed to post about where I road today. I don't know why as the only place I could get back to is the parking lot. Thanks for a great ride today guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man
    your judgment kinda sucks, maybe you shouldn't just post if you're going to invent organizations that sound like the KKK and then try to rant without really making sense. Alot of people were confused by your posting.

    I thought you were high...

    See that's what, I'm talking about.

    I'm asking a general question that concerns everyone that post and read messages here. Seems like something everyone should know and have an opinion on.

    You don't answer the question and instead use the question to attack me. Which you seem to think is more important to do, than offer some advice on what the policy is or should be for everyone.

    So in trying to decipher what you are saying in some way that has something to do with the question I asked. I come up with.....

    I think it's best for people to use their own judgment here, but not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    Are there any clear rules on the subject or should we all just use our best judgment?
    I didn't see the thread or post that caused you to make this thread, but yes I believe we should all use our best judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nachomc
    I didn't see the thread or post that caused you to make this thread, but yes I believe we should all use our best judgement.

    The thread was deleted. So I don't think it's fair for me to re-post what was deleted.

    One of the reasons that was given to me for the thread being deleted was because it was advocating poaching. I thought that was something that was allowed here, but really isn't from what I now understand.

    I like to see things as black or white and don't like gray areas. So I setup the thread up trying to make it as clear as possible it was pro-poaching. I guess it's ok to support poaching if it isn't too obvious or only certain approaches to supporting poaching are allowed.

    It seems a little murky and looks like a gray area, but I know a lot of people don't like things black and white too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    Are there any clear rules on the subject or should we all just use our best judgment?
    My rule, which only I can enforce, " Say the best, think the rest."
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    Why is it that common sense and common courtesy disappear when you get on the internet?

    When you go to a party do you ask what is ok to say? Do offend people when you go to parties or to the pub?

    If you have to ask you probably should go post somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogre
    If you have to ask you probably should go post somewhere else.
    'nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogre
    Why is it that common sense and common courtesy disappear when you get on the internet?

    When you go to a party do you ask what is ok to say? Do offend people when you go to parties or to the pub?

    If you have to ask you probably should go post somewhere else.

    I know this might be an epiphany for you, but there is the ignore button feature that will help protect you from the mental duress you must be experiencing reading my post.

    If you have questions you need answered start a thread or ask them in the pub.

    A lot of forums have all the rules posted in the first thread. So it's a fair question to ask, but if you enjoy arguing with me instead knock yourself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    Are there any clear rules on the subject or should we all just use our best judgment?
    Yeah, actually---at the bottom of the page there's a link to "Terms of Use" that will take you to the parent forum where it states in the "General Guidelines" section:

    "No insults or personal attacks"
    "No profanity or obscene language"
    "Debate - yes! Arguments or "flame wars" - no!"

    So it falls on the moderators to be the judge and the jury when a post gets near these boundaries; IMHO they're doing a great job!
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    I think the best policy is -

    Its better to keep you mouth closed and let people think you are an idiot,
    than to open your mouth and prove that you really are an idiot.

    Before you hit that 'POST' button, stop and think about what you are displaying for the rest of the world to read.
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    There is a level of common sense that is required too. I figured you were just trying to get a reaction and get some of the sensitive people riled up, now I am back to being confused because it seems you were serious.

    Are you asking if its ok to post here and condone poaching? It is a weird subject for sure, there have been a few posts about it recently and the obvious answer is NO, its not ok to promote poaching, at least in my opinion. The people who do it are taking a chance and they have determined that its worth the risk of being caught and getting fined. Its not really my business so I stay out of it. I am of the mindset where if there is nothing I can do to change something, I stay out of it and spend the energy on something where I can effect change.

    Now - if someone is poaching, gets caught and receives a tkt then comes onto the forum to complain about it, well, they are asking to get flamed I think. Then again, unless its private land I dont believe anything should be out of bounds. This just starts to open a can of worms and debate that lasts forever and pisses people off.

    I believe you know full well that you cant post a "members only poaching section" on a public forum. I think you were trying to prove a point (which I am still fuzzy on) and it was ill-received. If what you posted was black and white and you were being serious, then maybe you need to think a little more carefully before posting such a sensitive subject again.

    There is a double std though which your post did prove. Its ok to be in fight club, just dont talk about fight club.......right? People can tip-toe around the subject and make jokes etc but coming right out and being direct (black and white) you got flamed. Is that cool? Not really. But if you dont understand why then its best to just read the forum and not post anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    I know this might be an epiphany for you...
    Sanctimonious much? Pete, that you w/ a different login name? It's much more fun to watch you play in traffic on the quintessential freeway and shoot yourself in the foot instead.

    Worst case, most here will just report your posts.
    *Of which action I have never taken, nice try at throwing stones at me in your other thread BTW. It wasn't my fault your thread was threatened w/ a lock, although it was entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBShane

    I believe you know full well that you cant post a "members only poaching section" on a public forum.

    I don't have time to try and answer all the replies now, but I can take a stab at one sentence now.

    It's looks like I am asking for the Berlin Wall to be torn down here.


    What a bizarre concept, a poachers thread on a mt bike site, In the thread you can discuss poaching all you want and won't have to hear from people *****ing about you poaching. But don't worry you can still go outside the thread into other threads and still argue with people all you want.. You now have a choice about it.

    I can think of two ways right now how it could be done...

    A) A password protected thread could be started and it could be called "Poachers Anonymous" or "Chummers Anonymous" or "Clan Carebear Club". The name doesn't matter really. There are already all sorts of private areas on this site.

    B) You could also have a open forum and use code words like "Chumming" and PM the codes to whoever you wanted. During WWII they had radio broadcast in code that were broadcast worldwide, so it not a matter of if it can be done, Wether anyone does anything or not is another matter. There is already the private PM network here so it might be a idea that is redundant more than anything else really.

    I don't think anything can be done with this type of forum here to organize any groups anyway . I'm just throwing ideas out here to test my own theory . I think this is all just mindless entertainment, and the reply's seem to be proving me right, so keep em coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    I don't have time to try and answer all the replies now, but I can take a stab at one sentence now.

    It's looks like I am asking for the Berlin Wall to be torn down here.


    What a bizarre concept, a poachers thread on a mt bike site, In the thread you can discuss poaching all you want and won't have to hear from people *****ing about you poaching. But don't worry you can still go outside the thread into other threads and still argue with people all you want.. You now have a choice about it.

    I can think of two ways right now how it could be done...

    A) A password protected thread could be started and it could be called "Poachers Anonymous" or "Chummers Anonymous" or "Clan Carebear Club". The name doesn't matter really. There are already all sorts of private areas on this site.

    B) You could also have a open forum and use code words like "Chumming" and PM the codes to whoever you wanted. During WWII they had radio broadcast in code that were broadcast worldwide, so it not a matter of if it can be done, Wether anyone does anything or not is another matter. There is already the private PM network here so it might be a idea that is redundant more than anything else really.

    I don't think anything can be done with this type of forum here to organize any groups anyway . I'm just throwing ideas out here to test my own theory . I think this is all just mindless entertainment, and the reply's seem to be proving me right, so keep em coming.
    Seriously?? You really are this sanctimonious and berating, really now?

    Come on, do you ride at all? We need to get you out on one of our group rides and see about figuring out what is missing between your intent and our perceptions of the value of the actual posts.

    This cannot be this difficult can it? You really aren't a troll are you? Your proposed concept is in direct violation of the code of ethics most follow and this site generally tries to keep, all of which are listed on I.M.B.A.'s website. People can discuss stuff, but those discussing these things are long standing members of this community. It seems you are not?

    If you want different, make your own site then, like F-88 did and invite people there?

    Take up the group ride offer, preferably with those of us who've been around for a while b/c some of those you are debating with have more clout than you and all you're doing is hurting yourself.

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    *For that matter, how about you host a ride and we get to see what you're like in real life so we can understand if there is really "tongue-in-cheek" commentary happening or not.

    I'm down to ride wherever you're at..let us know.

    Since nobody's mentioned bacon, I will IBTL..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi
    *For that matter, how about you host a ride and we get to see what you're like in real life so we can understand if there is really "tongue-in-cheek" commentary happening or not.

    I'm down to ride wherever you're at..let us know.

    Since nobody's mentioned bacon, I will IBTL..
    I'm not going to help you derail the thread. It's a simple question I asked. So if that's your best answer, thanks for your input.

    I might see you around in other threads or rides. Who knows.

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    Apparently...

    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    Are there any clear rules on the subject or should we all just use our best judgment?
    ... you should use somebody else's best judgement. Yours ain't workin' out so good.

    'Testing Limits', as you put it in your other thread, is something three year olds do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    I'm not going to help you derail the thread. It's a simple question I asked. So if that's your best answer, thanks for your input.

    I might see you around in other threads or rides. Who knows.
    I am not able to derail it, your being the engineer of this train since day 1 has already achieved that one. Now, seriously, just host a ride and be done w/ all the drama? *I never said I didn't agree that publicly discussing any bit about riding off-access isn't a bit hypocritical in method and means. I don't do it, and wish other's wouldn't but it's their lives and their $.
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    What trail is being poached?

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    Bacon Ridge. You have it w/ poached eggs.

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    is it some lame Bay area trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    I'm not going to help you derail the thread. It's a simple question I asked. So if that's your best answer, thanks for your input.

    I might see you around in other threads or rides. Who knows.
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    Oh man....

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    Man, I really love bacon, too! Too bad there aren't more bacon songs out there to comfort us when we're not eating bacon!
    We rode Demo yesterday (and I crashed, got all tweaked up, another story) and hit the Summit Store on the way out.

    I got the Tri Tip sandwich, and it was kick ass! To my surprise, it had bacon in there. No wonder... Frickin Heaven!!

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    Hold it, you stopped at the Summit Store and didn't even bother to consider pm'ing me to see if I wanted you to order me something?

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    Man, I really love bacon, too! Too bad there aren't more bacon songs out there to comfort us when we're not eating bacon!
    Funny you mention that..

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    Road-Kill you definitely just need to drop the "AYHSMB" wording on your bike rims if you host a ride.

    I was out of town for the weekend and missed out on whatever happened to piss everyone off so badly, but I am really shocked at the lack of self-control being exercised in this thread. Do the terms of use apply here at all? What's the point in telling someone they broke the terms of use by breaking them yourself? This is a flame war with a lot of personal attacks which serve no real purpose. In other words, I hope the whole thing gets deleted. Maybe we need to recruit some of you to help patrol the bike party this month so you can channel all this negative energy into something helpful.

    (crap... I think I just added myself to the fight. please ignore the above statements )
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    Quote Originally Posted by urban turban
    Road-Kill you definitely just need to drop the "AYHSMB" wording on your bike rims if you host a ride.

    I was out of town for the weekend and missed out on whatever happened to piss everyone off so badly, but I am really shocked at the lack of self-control being exercised in this thread. Do the terms of use apply here at all? What's the point in telling someone they broke the terms of use by breaking them yourself? This is a flame war with a lot of personal attacks which serve no real purpose. In other words, I hope the whole thing gets deleted. Maybe we need to recruit some of you to help patrol the bike party this month so you can channel all this negative energy into something helpful.

    (crap... I think I just added myself to the fight. please ignore the above statements )
    I am asking some questions and making some suggestions, people don't want to hear. So attack the messenger and try to ignore the question. That's about as black and white as it can get.

    I don't have a problem with people trying to flame me, if they want. I've taken some shots at some of them, so it works both ways.

    Of course it might make more sense to actually fight to opponents of trail access instead, but I'm not a expert on the subject really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urban turban
    Road-Kill you definitely just need to drop the "AYHSMB" wording on your bike rims if you host a ride.

    I was out of town for the weekend and missed out on whatever happened to piss everyone off so badly, but I am really shocked at the lack of self-control being exercised in this thread. Do the terms of use apply here at all? What's the point in telling someone they broke the terms of use by breaking them yourself? This is a flame war with a lot of personal attacks which serve no real purpose. In other words, I hope the whole thing gets deleted. Maybe we need to recruit some of you to help patrol the bike party this month so you can channel all this negative energy into something helpful.

    (crap... I think I just added myself to the fight. please ignore the above statements )
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    Are there any more good songs about bacon?
    Yep, FWIW I don't step up to bat without being ready to swing away..always set to go!

    Enjoy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss34x18
    What trail is being poached?
    I poached this one the other day. Technical all around.


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    Thanks for representing the flamer's. I really can't fight back too much since, I don't know what's ok to post and what isn't.

    I don't want to keep on getting my threads locked. I know a lot of you are connected and could get the id taken down too, but that would just drive me underground.

    I already sent some info to Fc on what my day job is and how it applies here.. I'm not going to divulge it, but he can if he wanted to for some reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion
    I poached this one the other day. Technical all around.

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    Not a song, but still worth checking out. "Why bacon is better than true love"

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    is it really that hard to understand?

    Talking about poaching in the open only draws unwanted attention...

    People who poach and build trails don't like that for reasons too obvious to state...

    That's why they stay in touch privately/offline and don't talk about the subject AT ALL in public...

    Those who don't are usually flamed or ignored...

    If you are cool then maybe these private holders of golden trail information might let you in on the goods someday...

    ...or so I hear.

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    I think we all know what passive aggressive is. This thread and some of the responses fall into this category. This is like the little kid in class that does stuff to attract attention and everyone reacts to it. Yes I realize I am posting right now but I figure I might stop this thread from continuing on. It is worthless to keep responding to loaded questions posed by this guy. I don't know him/her and can't speak as to what his intentions are. I actually don't care either. Can we agree to stop providing him a forum to bait people into debates that cannot be won or lost? Road-kill, feel free to post on this site but just remember you really don't always know your audience and the faceless internet doesn't mean you get a free pass. Safe riding buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerkyspace
    Talking about poaching in the open only draws unwanted attention...

    People who poach and build trails don't like that for reasons too obvious to state...

    That's why they stay in touch privately/offline and don't talk about the subject AT ALL in public...

    Those who don't are usually flamed or ignored...

    If you are cool then maybe these private holders of golden trail information might let you in on the goods someday...

    ...or so I hear.
    The question is should there be some set rules posted we all abide by or is it a free for all here.

    You're assuming every mt biker supports the concept of poaching. That's not the case. So if a mt biker wants to try and stop poaching, they might want to bring up the subject and draw as much light on the practice as possible.

    They have as much right to express their opinion on their site as the poachers do. I initially wanted to show some token support for the cause, but I'm thinking it might be better for me to work against the cause now.

    I never bought into the inclusive crap I was hearing and see what a lot of you are really like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    Are there any clear rules on the subject or should we all just use our best judgment?
    Damn Road Kill you just love the abuse. I might hold off on starting thread for a while. the pitbulls are out.

    Speaking of Pitbulls; that is one subject best left alone as well as:

    1. Illegal/unsanctioned/unmapped trails. (UCSC for example)
    2. sandbaggers as much as they deserve to be called out
    3. anything politically charged (gay rights, the right to bear arms)
    4. Downieville Shuttle companies
    5. XC goobers vs DH losers vs AM toolboxes
    6. the Norcal border
    7. Summit Store
    There are many other topics to add to this list, I just cant think of them right now. I will edit the list as they come to me.

    Also when posting, as the Swedes would say "Don't shiet in the blue cupboard" or Nu har du skitit i det blå skåpet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmarshall
    I think we all know what passive aggressive is. This thread and some of the responses fall into this category. This is like the little kid in class that does stuff to attract attention and everyone reacts to it. Yes I realize I am posting right now but I figure I might stop this thread from continuing on. It is worthless to keep responding to loaded questions posed by this guy. I don't know him/her and can't speak as to what his intentions are. I actually don't care either. Can we agree to stop providing him a forum to bait people into debates that cannot be won or lost? Road-kill, feel free to post on this site but just remember you really don't always know your audience and the faceless internet doesn't mean you get a free pass. Safe riding buddy.
    I'm just asking a simple question about the posting policies here. The thread was started with two sentences. Wasn't that proactive really.

    If a moderator asked the same question the tone would be a lot different. If people want to carry baggage from other threads into this thread and debate other issue, I'm trying to accommodate them too.

    I make my living on the net and answer 100's of e-mail a day, so it's not that hard to reply to a few post if I feel like it or to start a tread. It just requires opening another window and multi-tasking a bit more than I usually do anyway.


    If it's entertaining for people to try and flame me, that's ok too, I'm taking names and numbers.and payback is a *****. That's why I'm asking what the rules are here about posting policies.
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    Well - at this point the reason for the thread is lost. Posting that you are "taking names and numbers and payback is a *****" will only serve to get people more upset with you than most of them already are. I dont really have anything against you or your posts for that matter.......other than being a little confused as to your intent.

    I DO however take offense when someone starts threatening people like you just did with your last comment. I stopped replying here because I didnt want to add to the problem but after reading the payback comment my position has changed. At this point the rules that you so desperately need for some reason are clearly being broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    I'm just asking a simple question about the posting policies here.
    R-K,

    Here's the simple answer: This is a public forum that can be used by mountain biking's "enemy's" as ammunition against us/trail access. So long story short, don't post anything about illegal activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    ...I'm taking names and numbers.and payback is a *****....
    though not specifically outlined in the Terms of Use/General Guidelines for these forums an implied threat towards this online community is really not too bright...

    not because we're a bunch of tough e-thug/internet cowboys (most of us are lil' geeky cyclists like myself)....but because you very well may get banned from a pretty cool online source for local rides/knowledge....

    now...go take a smart pill and stop posting for a bit.....my .02....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBShane
    Well - at this point the reason for the thread is lost. Posting that you are "taking names and numbers and payback is a *****" will only serve to get people more upset with you than most of them already are. I dont really have anything against you or your posts for that matter.......other than being a little confused as to your intent.

    I DO however take offense when someone starts threatening people like you just did with your last comment. I stopped replying here because I didnt want to add to the problem but after reading the payback comment my position has changed. At this point the rules that you so desperately need for some reason are clearly being broken.

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    I'm not asking for anyone's support. I am just asking what the posting rules are here. I honestly don't know them , since most other sites I go to have them spelled out in the first sticky thread.

    I think the line was crossed when people tried to intimidate me with the threat of outing me. The site did take the thread down, but the people that were involved are still accountable for their actions.

    I'm not taking any of this too serious, so that's about as mild response they are going to get from me on the matter. Let's just leave it at that if we can.

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    The rules are here, http://www.mtbr.com/guidelinescrx.aspx right on top of every forum page.

    Also, I told you why your thread http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=648654 was locked and moved.

    "...flame-baiting, forming a group for illegal trail discussion and using KKK as an acronym"

    We are not heavy handed here and we exercise a bit of trust and leniency here. You've crossed the line a few times already though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    The rules are here, http://www.mtbr.com/guidelinescrx.aspx right on top of every forum page.

    Also, I told you why your thread http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=648654 was locked and moved.

    "...flame-baiting, forming a group for illegal trail discussion and using KKK as an acronym"

    We are not heavy handed here and we exercise a bit of trust and leniency here. You've crossed the line a few times already though.

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    Thanks for pointing out the link to me. Here is the text of the link, so hopefully we can all abide by the rules now and know what they are.




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    The Mtbr staff and volunteer moderators monitor the message boards, removing inappropriate content. The purpose of these guidelines is to explain what kind of messages are "inappropriate," and therefore will be deleted. We are explaining these guidelines beforehand, so if a message is removed everyone will understand why it was removed. In general, we err on the side of leaving messages up. The entire site is premised on sharing product information, so as one might imagine we are strong proponents of free speech. That being said, here are some specific reasons why we remove certain messages:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill

    If it's entertaining for people to try and flame me, that's ok too, I'm taking names and numbers.and payback is a *****. That's why I'm asking what the rules are here about posting policies.
    WHAT?!? You can't make this shiz up.

    Dude... quit while you're behind. Srsly. You're trying to get your truck out of the sand by spinning your wheels and digging deeper. You're not going to motivate people to like you by making threats, even empty ones.

    If you're looking for instructions and rules on how to be socially acceptable in a public forum, you're not going to find them.

    As you said before, you like things black and white. Well, in life there is almost no such thing as black and white. Even something as simple as the laws of physics break down if you look at them closely enough.

    I can't quite figure out if you are intentionally being this obtuse for a good troll, or what.

    I dunno... no more good can come of this thread. I vote for a mod lock and move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    WHAT?!? You can't make this shiz up.

    Dude... quit while you're behind. Srsly. You're trying to get your truck out of the sand by spinning your wheels and digging deeper. You're not going to motivate people to like you by making threats, even empty ones.

    If you're looking for instructions and rules on how to be socially acceptable in a public forum, you're not going to find them.

    As you said before, you like things black and white. Well, in life there is almost no such thing as black and white. Even something as simple as the laws of physics break down if you look at them closely enough.
    Road-Kill has a long history of instigating, trying to catch mountain bikers up on arguments about poaching and recently, belaboring the point that mtbr is an open forum and his invitation to Ebmud and various other groups is largely moot, since this is an open forum.

    A sub-topic of the latter is his knowledge of internet and web security. Apperently Road-Kill doesn't realize that almost 1/2 of the regulars here work in IT - but that's another topic...


    I do not think Road-Kill is one of Pete's alter ego's - but his posting history shows he has a lot of contempt for mountain bikers - it's not a stretch to come up with ideas who he actually may be.

    Go back and read his posting history and tell me who it reminds you of.

    He may in fact be the pot stirrying ignoramous he pretends, or he might be someone we should be careful of. Either way, it's not worth corresponding with him.
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    You're probably right.

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    Road-Kill has a long history of instigating, trying to catch mountain bikers up on arguments about poaching and recently, belaboring the point that mtbr is an open forum and his invitation to Ebmud and various other groups is largely moot, since this is an open forum.

    A sub-topic of the latter is his knowledge of internet and web security. Apperently Road-Kill doesn't realize that almost 1/2 of the regulars here work in IT - but that's another topic...


    I do not think Road-Kill is one of Pete's alter ego's - but his posting history shows he has a lot of contempt for mountain bikers - it's not a stretch to come up with ideas who he actually may be.

    Go back and read his posting history and tell me who it reminds you of.

    He may in fact be the pot stirrying ignoramous he pretends, or he might be someone we should be careful of. Either way, it's not worth corresponding with him.
    Yeah, he's not Pete. His writing style is completely different.

    Yeah, back to the troll theory. He is asking what he can get away with... where the line is. The line is if you post trying to piss off your peers, we'll letcha know with a delete your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    WHAT?!? You can't make this shiz up.

    Dude... quit while you're behind. Srsly. You're trying to get your truck out of the sand by spinning your wheels and digging deeper. You're not going to motivate people to like you by making threats, even empty ones.

    If you're looking for instructions and rules on how to be socially acceptable in a public forum, you're not going to find them.

    As you said before, you like things black and white. Well, in life there is almost no such thing as black and white. Even something as simple as the laws of physics break down if you look at them closely enough.

    I can't quite figure out if you are intentionally being this obtuse for a good troll, or what.

    I dunno... no more good can come of this thread. I vote for a mod lock and move.

    I asked what the rules were, they were finally posted by Fc when he thought it was the right time.

    My reply was....

    "Thanks for pointing out the link to me. Here is the text of the link, so hopefully we can all abide by the rules now and know what they are."

    Seemed like a good place to end it if anyone really wanted to, but now the attacks are continuing on me. So who is troll here really? I would assume when people send me post, it is ok to reply to them. I don't see that as being something that can't be done in the rules.

    If anyone wants to discuss the forum posting rules at some point, it might be something worth discussing. I'm not sure exactly why anyone just can't use the ignore list, you IT guys should be able to figure that out without a thread on the subject. This attempt at censorship is getting old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    Road-Kill has a long history of instigating, trying to catch mountain bikers up on arguments about poaching and recently, belaboring the point that mtbr is an open forum and his invitation to Ebmud and various other groups is largely moot, since this is an open forum.

    A sub-topic of the latter is his knowledge of internet and web security. Apperently Road-Kill doesn't realize that almost 1/2 of the regulars here work in IT - but that's another topic...


    I do not think Road-Kill is one of Pete's alter ego's - but his posting history shows he has a lot of contempt for mountain bikers - it's not a stretch to come up with ideas who he actually may be.

    Go back and read his posting history and tell me who it reminds you of.

    He may in fact be the pot stirrying ignoramous he pretends, or he might be someone we should be careful of. Either way, it's not worth corresponding with him.

    Aren't you the guy that likes to "Pummel Roadies"? I remember offering you a chance to pummel me before, and you never took me up on the offer.

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    First good point RK has made since I started reading this abortion. IGNORE is now on!! There always has to be one in the group right? No matter what you do or where you go - there is always one person that has to be difficult and rile people up. RK - if you feel its necessary to get my details for any reason whatsoever I will make it easy for you, just PM me and I will send you my address, phone number and whatever else you want. I thought this entire thing was pretty funny when he started it but once I learned that this is actually a serious post..........well wow!! G'BYE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jorgemonkey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road-Kill
    Aren't you the guy that likes to "Pummel Roadies"? I remember offering you a chance to pummel me before, and you never took me up on the offer.
    Just provide a date and time Road-Kill! I'll pummel you like the e-tard you are.
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    Road-Kill, now that both pliebenberg and Francois have pointed out the terms of use to you, if you have any further questions, please direct them to me or Francois via PM.

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