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    I want to know more about this comment specifically the part in bold:

    Hi Mjvande aka Mike. hope you are well. Mike is a well known American mountain bike hater, that spends his time regularly trolling any news about mountain bikers. If you google him you will find that according to the internet he has been arrested and tried in the US for attacking mountain bikers with saws. He has no idea of where this event took place or on what type of trail were ridden and has no understanding of UK access laws as apposed to US access law. Mike also has injunction preventing him from placing comments on many mountain bike forums and news posts in the US hence the reason he trolls Uk posts. Mike also likes cats, his cats probably kill more wildlife than mountain bikers.

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    I just realized that I have been interacting with him regarding a trail area in SoCal on a local magazine comments section:

    https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/...rails/#c215928
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    His vitriol would've given him away no matter what name he used. His "why can't mountain bikers EVER tell the truth!?" is a dead giveaway.
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    he has degenerated into a lonely angry bitter old man, frustrated at his loss of any relevancy and his slide into well deserved obscurity. In a way I feel sorry for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave54 View Post
    he has degenerated into a lonely angry bitter old man, frustrated at his loss of any relevancy and his slide into well deserved obscurity. In a way I feel sorry for him.
    yeah, pretty sad existence when you spend your time actively searching for any article about MTB's and trails to post negative comments..... very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    yeah, pretty sad existence when you spend your time actively searching for any article about MTB's and trails to post negative comments..... very sad.
    He also is on the wrong side of the issue. Land managers across the country are eagerly building new trail as fast as they can get funding and approval.

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    Too bad Mike didn't get that Schwinn Stingray he wanted so very badly for Christmas in 1965. I think he's beyond therapy at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH40 View Post
    Too bad Mike didn't get that Schwinn Stingray he wanted so very badly for Christmas in 1965. I think he's beyond therapy at this point.
    Lol... think he needs to start taking his meds again, if not, he needs them adjusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave54 View Post
    he has degenerated into a lonely angry bitter old man, frustrated at his loss of any relevancy and his slide into well deserved obscurity.
    This makes no sense.

    He has been the same sad sap since the 90's. Nothing's changed.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DH40 again.


    -He's also showing up locally backing up our local mountain bike haters. All 2 of them, Husband & Wife.

    Funny how these two had their moment and like MJV have also slid-off and into obscurity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Like the Energizer Bunny.... he's still going....

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    Wow.

    Isn't he violating the terms of his probation? Or has that already expired? I wonder what the judge would think of all this recent activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    Wow.

    Isn't he violating the terms of his probation? Or has that already expired? I wonder what the judge would think of all this recent activity.
    Have you heard about all the women who have proposed to this guy? It's a sick, sick world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Like the Energizer Bunny.... he's still going....

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    I didn't bother to dig into that site and investigate further but that's a solid indication that dude is clearly off his rocker. It's pretty bad when a topic is "HOT" only because it has 154 views and not one single reply. What a train wreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JACKL View Post
    It is my belief that he is Art Vandelay's evil twin.
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    I'm too new to town to know this infamous Mr. V.
    And I'm not sure how old he is... but I had a brief and curious interaction with some old timers at Big Rock Deli.

    He says "hey! you're one of those evil mountain bikers", obviously joking.
    I say, "ummm yeah?"
    He says, "Yeah you ever see those IJ articles?"
    I say, "Yeah they seem pretty biased"
    He says, "Yeah both sides are"

    And that was it. But whats notable is that 1. they(local older folks) probably don't think mountain bikers are actually evil, and 2. they still think that mountain bikers are equally biased (against what i'm not sure) as footpeople are against bikers.

    Anyway, I think the local populous's true opinion is favorable toward bikers in general. In my 2 years here riding every week(in the greater san rafael area), I've only really encountered maybe 1 or 2 overly bitter trail users, most people on the trail are very nice and even accommodating. And sadly, other mountain bikers can often be more dickish to bikers then hikers are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bneall View Post
    And sadly, other mountain bikers can often be more dickish to bikers then hikers are.
    That's the truth, I've had far more negative run ins with other mountain bikers than hikers and equestrians. It really depends on where you are, too, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I didn't bother to dig into that site and investigate further but that's a solid indication that dude is clearly off his rocker. It's pretty bad when a topic is "HOT" only because it has 154 views and not one single reply. What a train wreck.
    And all the threads were started by him. He seems to like to see that mountain bikers are getting hurt on the trails. That makes him kinda sick, doesn't it?
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    He is about 70 year old, probably has some mild form of asperger and is consumed by hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bneall View Post
    I'm too new to town to know this infamous Mr. V.
    And I'm not sure how old he is... but I had a brief and curious interaction with some old timers at Big Rock Deli.

    He says "hey! you're one of those evil mountain bikers", obviously joking.
    I say, "ummm yeah?"
    He says, "Yeah you ever see those IJ articles?"
    I say, "Yeah they seem pretty biased"
    He says, "Yeah both sides are"

    And that was it. But whats notable is that 1. they(local older folks) probably don't think mountain bikers are actually evil, and 2. they still think that mountain bikers are equally biased (against what i'm not sure) as footpeople are against bikers.

    Anyway, I think the local populous's true opinion is favorable toward bikers in general. In my 2 years here riding every week(in the greater san rafael area), I've only really encountered maybe 1 or 2 overly bitter trail users, most people on the trail are very nice and even accommodating. And sadly, other mountain bikers can often be more dickish to bikers then hikers are.
    It has been well known for quite some time that at most a dozen or so older equestrians and ďfootpeopleĒ dominate the trail access paradigm in Marin County.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Like the Energizer Bunny.... he's still going....

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    WTF is that website and why on earth do they let him post like that? What a weird place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    WTF is that website and why on earth do they let him post like that? What a weird place.
    It appears to be a front for the bicycle specific portions of Usenet, for god's sake! Too funny that he is relegated to posting in a place no one actually really visits any more. At this point, I would have no idea where to find a Usenet server to use. Does Google Groups still front them as well? The answer, apparently, is yes:

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo....mountain-bike

    Looks like all spam there now.

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    oh wow, he is barking into a pillow and no one can hear him....

    Funny, once i called him out on the SD Reader Comments section he stopped posting.
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    He's a piece of work for sure. Whenever he gets called out on his conviction, he calls you a liar and goes to his "why do mountain bikers always lie?" routine. The thing is he WAS convicted. He may have had it expunged later by meeting the terms of his probation, but he was convicted nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    WTF is that website and why on earth do they let him post like that? What a weird place.
    Looks like he's practically the sole user of that site. Pretty wacky.
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    He's back and fighting mtb trails in Athens Ohio!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamwa View Post
    He's back and fighting mtb trails in Athens Ohio!

    https://www.athensnews.com/news/loca...76550e99b.html
    That is same copy and paste of the same argument he has used over the years. He does not even bother to update his argument with current information.
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    The man has absolutely nothing better to do. Someone ought to send him a map of the whole forest and ask him to protect it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    The man has absolutely nothing better to do. Someone ought to send him a map of the whole forest and ask him to protect it.
    Better yet, a one way trip to the Amazon and tell him he needs to stop the clearcutting. That should keep him occupied for a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    The man has absolutely nothing better to do. Someone ought to send him a map of the whole forest and ask him to protect it.
    He serves a function -- comic relief for mountain bikers.
    No one takes him seriously anymore. Not even other anti-bike zealots. Most envirowhackos are keeping their distance from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave54 View Post
    He serves a function -- comic relief for mountain bikers.
    No one takes him seriously anymore. Not even other anti-bike zealots. Most envirowhackos are keeping their distance from him.

    -Most but not all. Our local "defender of all things nature" posts MJV's drivel on his FB pages...

    Thankfully, not too many folks around MoCo take him seriously either.
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    He's found his way to my small town. This is a really small, local news....

    Snow Canyon takes top honors as high school mountain bike season begins in Kamas ‚Äď St George News

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    Quote Originally Posted by can't get right View Post
    He's found his way to my small town. This is a really small, local news....

    Snow Canyon takes top honors as high school mountain bike season begins in Kamas ‚Äď St George News
    Huh? What'd I miss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Huh? What'd I miss?
    You need to read the comments.

    MDV's comment is same'ol same'ol.

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    Secondly, of you really want to put your energy towards helping people, try something that is important, like suicide prevention, drug addiction or safe driving. All of those things hurt and kill more people every single hour than MTB does in a decade.

    After reading your post again, I realize that your probably just sad, lonely and attention seeking. So it worked! I have you some attention. Now go do something nice for someone instead of maligning a very positive pastime like high school mountain biking."
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    Awesome response! Thanks for reposting that.
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    Used to see him puttering around Rockridge from time to time. We occasionally made eye contact, and I was pretty sure he knew that I knew who he was. I withheld the urge to yell (in my Old Spice "Swan Dive!" voice) "Sawwww!!!! Ha ha haaaa!!!!!!!!"

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    I recently moved from the Bay Area to a small town in Utah (&#128555 and our tiny little ski resort got its first ever mountain bike trail. Look who is the only commenter on this article. How the hell does he find out about all of these small time trails in the middle of nowhere?

    https://www.hjnews.com/news/local/bj...ff5d68f72.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by hnak View Post
    I recently moved from the Bay Area to a small town in Utah (&#128555 and our tiny little ski resort got its first ever mountain bike trail. Look who is the only commenter on this article. How the hell does he find out about all of these small time trails in the middle of nowhere?

    https://www.hjnews.com/news/local/bj...ff5d68f72.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by hnak View Post
    I recently moved from the Bay Area to a small town in Utah () and our tiny little ski resort got its first ever mountain bike trail. Look who is the only commenter on this article. How the hell does he find out about all of these small time trails in the middle of nowhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hnak View Post
    I recently moved from the Bay Area to a small town in Utah () and our tiny little ski resort got its first ever mountain bike trail. Look who is the only commenter on this article. How the hell does he find out about all of these small time trails in the middle of nowhere?

    https://www.hjnews.com/news/local/bj...ff5d68f72.html
    He truly has nothing better to do, so he searches for mountain biking related articles in publications which he hasnít already been banned from. His response is always the same, because he essentially cuts and pastes his standard response. I'm betting he's never even been to your town. He's the 400 lb fat guy trolling from his mom's basement.
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    I donít get a paywall, just a survey that you can skip. Itís kind of a long post to copy here, but itís essentially the same as all of his posts. Talks about how bikers kill the environment, references BS, rambles on...

    Just kind of crazy to see a blast from the past pop up here in little Logan, Utah!

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    MVD strikes again, this time in the NYT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maleonardphi View Post
    MVD strikes again, this time in the NYT.
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    I signed up to comment on the NYT site just so I could flag his post in hopes a moderator removes it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DH40 View Post
    Too bad Mike didn't get that Schwinn Stingray he wanted so very badly for Christmas in 1965. I think he's beyond therapy at this point.
    I asked for a Stingray one Xmas. Came into my 'rents room Xmas morning, there was a suspicious bulge under the curtain- I whipped it aside, and there it was. A Schwinn Stingray. JR. A used focking Stingray JUNIOR. I was crushed.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    I asked for a Stingray one Xmas. Came into my 'rents room Xmas morning, there was a suspicious bulge under the curtain- I whipped it aside, and there it was. A Schwinn Stingray. JR. A used focking Stingray JUNIOR. I was crushed.





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    I paraphrased DH40 for ya... That's a good article on high school mountain biking.
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    "Exactly as bad as MSNBC."

    Maybe, but that doesn't make it any less true. I believe that's called deflection?

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    My wife ran into him at a Native Plant conference in LA last year. He was a presenter. She described the presentation, I told her who it was. On the money...

    She did a great job of letting the organizers have it for letting him present at a conference reserved for scientists.

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    I don't use FB but i have a burner account for certain things like band's pages that have tour info, etc. When I clicked on a FB link just now, Mr. Zuckerberg had this message for me:

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    Notorius anti-outdoor recreation crusader Mike Vandeman has found your thread! Google him for a sad insight into this sociopath. Great work on the trail to all involved!

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    He just posted his same crap here: https://www.theunion.com/sports/moun...enduro-racing/
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandykill View Post
    Yup, he's active. Can we all get under his skin? ...or is that an exercise in futility?
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    I feel like someone at least posting about his conviction so folks know about the kinda crazy they are dealing with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandykill View Post
    I feel like someone at least posting about his conviction so folks know about the kinda crazy they are dealing with.
    FFS. I worked really hard to get these documents out there. Please use this resource:

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    We need a concerted effort to add that link wherever he posts and denies that he's been convicted of assault.
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    I find it pretty disturbing that Mikey Slashypants is the darling of the Native Plant Society:








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    Mike V. is nothing more than a domestic terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandykill View Post
    I feel like someone at least posting about his conviction so folks know about the kinda crazy they are dealing with.
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    FFS. I worked really hard to get these documents out there. Please use this resource:

    https://www.bermstyle.com/the-trial-of-mike-vandeman/
    Wait... conviction? Davey Simon, I followed your link and found that it leads to a photograph of an ORDER FOR DISMISSAL of the charges against MVD. And that the order was granted. I thought MVD was convicted. Yes? No? Sorry I'm confused, but I am. What am I missing? Thanks.
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    Convicted, then dismissed because he did what he was told for a few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Wait... conviction? Davey Simon, I followed your link and found that it leads to a photograph of an ORDER FOR DISMISSAL of the charges against MVD. And that the order was granted. I thought MVD was convicted. Yes? No? Sorry I'm confused, but I am. What am I missing? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandykill View Post
    I feel like someone at least posting about his conviction so folks know about the kinda crazy they are dealing with.
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    Post conviction you can get relief on your record if youíve done OK during parole. It helps people get on with their lives and gain employment etc...

    You still canít run for office in California and some other restrictions.

    So yeah: read the fine print
    Okay I'll do that but meanwhile in these days of short attention spans and TLDR (like what just happened with me), shouldn't we have a link to some document that clearly states in large letters at the very top that this dood whacked or at least threatened a couple people with a weapon (saw)?

    I get that his record got cleaned up BUT FIRST HE DID WHAT HE DID AND HE WAS CONVICTED OF IT. Right?

    Sorry but digging deep isn't within the capacity of lots and lots of people, particularly those who don't really want to side with you. Most just don't even care enough to dig. I mean look how confused I got and I DO side with you. Just sayin'.

    On the other hand, thanks for all you're doing. It's a lot more than I'm doing. MVD is a hell bent jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Okay I'll do that but meanwhile in these days of short attention spans and TLDR (like what just happened with me), shouldn't we have a link to some document that clearly states in large letters at the very top that this dood whacked or at least threatened a couple people with a weapon (saw)?

    I get that his record got cleaned up BUT FIRST HE DID WHAT HE DID AND HE WAS CONVICTED OF IT. Right?

    Sorry but digging deep isn't within the capacity of lots and lots of people, particularly those who don't really want to side with you. Most just don't even care enough to dig. I mean look how confused I got and I DO side with you. Just sayin'.

    On the other hand, thanks for all you're doing. It's a lot more than I'm doing. MVD is a hell bent jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Okay I'll do that but meanwhile in these days of short attention spans and TLDR (like what just happened with me), shouldn't we have a link to some document that clearly states in large letters at the very top that this dood whacked or at least threatened a couple people with a weapon (saw)?

    I get that his record got cleaned up BUT FIRST HE DID WHAT HE DID AND HE WAS CONVICTED OF IT. Right?

    Sorry but digging deep isn't within the capacity of lots and lots of people, particularly those who don't really want to side with you. Most just don't even care enough to dig. I mean look how confused I got and I DO side with you. Just sayin'.

    On the other hand, thanks for all you're doing. It's a lot more than I'm doing. MVD is a hell bent jackass.
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    Unfortunately, this jackass thinks that a subsequent dismissal is the equal to the conviction never occurring. If you point it out to him in a forum, he immediately goes on his "mountain bikers always lie" spew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Unfortunately, this jackass thinks that a subsequent dismissal is the equal to the conviction never occurring. If you point it out to him in a forum, he immediately goes on his "mountain bikers always lie" spew.
    Followed up with the documents, the mountain bikers always LIE mantra just makes him look crazy.

    All of his ranting on the Native Plant Society Facebook page was deleted. But only after I posted the Bermstyle link.

    They love his anti cycling rhetoric but canít officially condone violence toward other trail users.


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    looks like the psycho found /r/mtb on reddit

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MTB/comment...m_medium=web2x

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    Yes, Vandemoron has been quite active on /r/MTB recently (after a break of 7 months): https://www.reddit.com/user/mjvande/

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    Every time he posts something just follow up with this link:


    https://www.bermstyle.com/the-trial-of-mike-vandeman/


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    Man, he C&P's a LOT.
    Not much original material, is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey Simon View Post
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    https://www.bermstyle.com/the-trial-of-mike-vandeman/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
    Man, he C&P's a LOT.
    Not much original material, is there?
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    I saw today that he's now hanging out in the Craigslist Bike Forum. Trolling wherever he can, I guess. He'll be banned soon, I'm sure.
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    I occasionally see him posting on Nextdoor as he lives not too far from me.


    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    I saw today that he's now hanging out in the Craigslist Bike Forum. Trolling wherever he can, I guess. He'll be banned soon, I'm sure.

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    Is this avatar taken?

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    ^ It's been taken on the NAMBLA forum, but it's still available here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callender View Post
    ^ It's been taken on the NAMBLA forum, but it's still available here.
    Haha - I lived in SF during the NAMBLA hubub - I believe they met on Potrero Hill. Of all the North American Love Associations, that one really stole the spotlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH40 View Post



    Is this avatar taken?
    I used it for a while, but it's all yours now.

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    Dude looks nuts, where does he live now? I'll say he's got some kindred spirits in Marin. Drugs are bad.

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    Someone send him a FB friend request. F with him that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callender View Post
    ^ It's been taken on the NAMBLA forum, but it's still available here.
    Ironic, as he looks nothing like Marlon Brando.
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