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    Town of Paradise being evacuated due to Camp Fire 🔥

    This is awful. I have several friends up there and they are all getting out. Feather River hospital being evacuated.

    More in a bit.

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    Super smokey in Santa Rosa from it.

    Actually received a Nixle alert about it
    Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

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    Couple of pics as my friend Suzan leaves her house to get onto Skyway, the main drag out of Paradise. Traffic coming down the hill is from Magalia. Her husband is driving a truck somewhere in Oregon and trying desperately to get home.

    Note the worried dog in the rear view mirror.

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    Town of Paradise being evacuated due to Camp Fire 🔥-gallery_xlarge.jpg

    View from Chico, 15 miles away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
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    View from Chico, 15 miles away.
    That pic is surreal.
    Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

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    Fire has jumped to 10,000 acres. Skyway blocked so all evacs were told to turn around and head back up towards Magalia! That road is only two lanes- it will take for-fricking-ever.

    Not looking good. Not at all.

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    Thanks for the heads up, I have family in Paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.thedrake View Post
    Thanks for the heads up, I have family in Paradise.
    Good luck.

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    Saw the big smoke plume from Chico after sunrise this morning and knew this could get bad. ...And then the wind picked up. It's constant and strong, with occasional gusts that can push you back. This fire will be very hard to build containment unless the wind changes

    There is a constant stream of helicopters refueling and reloading in Oroville. They seem impressive up close and then you see them fly off towards the fire and become a tiny spec in front of an absolutely massive wall of smoke. It gives so much perspective on the size of these fires that I wonder how any helicopter can make a difference. But every drop helps, and every fire fighter out there counts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Fire has jumped to 10,000 acres. Skyway blocked so all evacs were told to turn around and head back up towards Magalia! That road is only two lanes- it will take for-fricking-ever.

    Not looking good. Not at all.
    Holy Shit, that is seriously not good! Skyway is virtually the only road out of that area that is like an expressway. Most everything else is small rural roads 25 mph at best. Sometimes they go to dirt and back before you reach the next highway (32, 70 etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 121GW View Post
    Holy Shit, that is seriously not good! Skyway is virtually the only road out of that area that is like an expressway. Most everything else is small rural roads 25 mph at best. Sometimes they go to dirt and back before you reach the next highway (32, 70 etc).
    Yeah. My friend's Mom was one of the last to make it down Skyway. Trees were burning on both sides of the roads. I don't know where people are going to drive to now, like you say, the roads get smaller & smaller as you go up, and it's all forests up there.

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    Just got this pic from Chuck in Santa Rosa. Santa Rosa, what, 160 miles away? Dayammmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Super smokey in Santa Rosa from it.

    Actually received a Nixle alert about it
    Ash coming down on me in Petaluma. Was going to head up to run a couple errands in SR and then hit Trailhouse for a cold one. Not sure now...

    Is it true it was a campfire that started things? For crying out loud people!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Ugh, it's burning down the hill towards Chico! 99 is now closed south of Chico

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn View Post
    Ugh, it's burning down the hill towards Chico! 99 is now closed south of Chico
    They closed the N bound and made it south bound to help w/the evac

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Ash coming down on me in Petaluma. Was going to head up to run a couple errands in SR and then hit Trailhouse for a cold one. Not sure now...

    Is it true it was a campfire that started things? For crying out loud people!
    Started off Camp Creek Road in the Feather River Canyon near Pulga. That's where the name came from (always the start location, never the cause). Coincidental name. Similar to how the Carr Fire was named after a location, even though a literal car fire was the coincidental cause.

    No cause released yet.

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    BCSO Sheriff feed went down a couple hours ago. Don't know if it's back up yet.

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    0-18,000 acres burned in a few hours. https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/ca...221349345.html
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    I can smell a little smoke in Palo Alto.

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    I hope everybody's friends and family are safe!!

    A co-workers 81 year old mother lives up there. No Cell phone, Co-worker has not heard from her all day, unsure if she made it out before roads closed, abandoned vehicle, or in a safe place and just can't reach out to him.

    This is the CARR fire all over again the way it is growing in size so quickly.

    The 40mph winds today weren't helpful. Then of course the fire was quickly large enough to make its own weather system.

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    What are some creative things we can do on individually and/or on this forum to help?

    I just read that the fire is spreading at a rate of 80 football fields a minute. Staggering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5k bike 50cent legs View Post
    What are some creative things we can do on individually and/or on this forum to help?

    I just read that the fire is spreading at a rate of 80 football fields a minute. Staggering.
    I've spent all day on the computer watching and reading about this fire, and I was dismayed at the lack of footage that I could find. Then I turn on the 5-6 o'clock news and there is plenty of terrifying video of what these people are going through. TV is still good for something.

    Then there was the shot of the father who lost his son in the Thousand Oaks bar shooting. That just tore me up. That guy is in some serious pain.

    This country needs to get straightened out and quick-like. No more of this "thoughts and prayers" bullshit. We need serious answers and solutions.

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    Town of Paradise being evacuated due to Camp Fire 🔥

    ^^^ x100. My very close friend lives in Newbury Park and knew one of the victims.

    And now they are evacuated due to a fire down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Just got this pic from Chuck in Santa Rosa. Santa Rosa, what, 160 miles away? Dayammmmmm.

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    I took that pic from the gas station on the corner of Summerfield and Montgomery (3 doirs down from the Trailhouse). That is looking West away from the fire.

    Im in Truckee now. Beautiful up here.

    Hoping the best for all of you in the Chico/Paradise area. Stay safe all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    I've spent all day on the computer watching and reading about this fire, and I was dismayed at the lack of footage that I could find. Then I turn on the 5-6 o'clock news and there is plenty of terrifying video of what these people are going through. TV is still good for something.

    Then there was the shot of the father who lost his son in the Thousand Oaks bar shooting. That just tore me up. That guy is in some serious pain.

    This country needs to get straightened out and quick-like. No more of this "thoughts and prayers" bullshit. We need serious answers and solutions.
    The problem is the people who demand serious answers and solutions the most are the ones who are against them the most.

    Back to the topic: scary as hell. I have multiple friends who are firefighters. From local depts. to smokejumpers.
    It sure takes a special kind of person to willingly walk into the firefight while everyone else walks away to protect their own life.

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    Outskirts of east Chico. South of Hwy 32 and East of Bruce Rd under Evac orders.

    Hopefully 99 will hold the fire. If it doesn't might burn to the Sac River.

    I really hope if needed people star Evac early in Chico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Thanks for the update. Hard to sleep with all this devastation around us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5k bike 50cent legs View Post
    I just read that the fire is spreading at a rate of 80 football fields a minute. Staggering.
    Hard to wrap my head around such fast moving devastation. Thoughts and prayers for all.
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    Just stepped outside in West San Jose and it smells like a campsite.

    Can only imagine the air quality up north. The tragedy is deep of course.
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    live feed of Chico Action News Now
    https://www.actionnewsnow.com/home/Town of Paradise being evacuated due to Camp Fire 🔥-caitlin-smith-feather-river-hospital.jpg

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    From what I’m hearing, the town of Paradise is virtually gone.

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    While in Downieville last month, I met a group of 20 riders from Chico and Paradise. OGMTB I believe.

    The said they get together every year and ride somewhere.

    I hope they are ok.
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    Paradise Town Hall, Hospital and High School are still standing, actually. There has been a lot of misinformation according the the councilwoman on the live feed. Still an epic tragedy. I know several people between Chico and Shasta that are bailing out of CA forever because of this fire climate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Blech. No wonder. It's about the worst I've seen out here on the Peninsula.

    Sorry, Paradise.

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    70,000 acres burned!

    A lot of info here:
    https://twitter.com/hashtag/CampFire?src=hashTown of Paradise being evacuated due to Camp Fire 🔥-drhzjk8vsaagftn.jpg

    The videos of the escapes by vehicle are insane. I am certain some did not make it. The road was on fire!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Being unfamiliar with the area, I checked out Google Street view. The contrast between that and today's post fire damage is just saddening. I hope everyone found refuge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleas View Post
    Being unfamiliar with the area, I checked out Google Street view. The contrast between that and today's post fire damage is just saddening. I hope everyone found refuge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    70,000 acres burned!

    A lot of info here:
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    The videos of the escapes by vehicle are insane. I am certain some did not make it. The road was on fire!!
    Wow. Yeah, that vid of the guy driving thru the flames was insane. I held my breath until he was past the fires on both sides of the road.

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    As a reminder of how effed up our modern times are, my Yahoo home page had the Camp Fire way down in the listing (10 features below the following) the Kardashians SoCal fire story was number 3:

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    Changing the topic; anybody else notice the "Santa Ana Winds" yesterday? Very obvious in Hollister.

    Certainly must have contribute to the disaster in Paradise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Wow. Yeah, that vid of the guy driving thru the flames was insane. I held my breath until he was past the fires on both sides of the road.
    It said 10:00 on his car clock and it was almost pitch black.... until he made it out. Only then did I know it was in the morning.

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    From the LA Times:

    More than 2,000 firefighters on Friday were racing to stop the explosive growth of the Camp fire in Northern California, which spread to 70,000 acres overnight and has destroyed about 2,000 homes and buildings across parts of Butte County.

    The extent of the harm inflicted was still barely understood Friday.

    “We know that there have been injuries and we know there has been loss of life,” said Director of the California Office of Emergency Services Mark Ghilarducci. But it was too early, he said, to release a full count of the fire’s victims. At least three firefighters have been injured.

    So far, firefighters have been able to prevent the blaze from reaching the city of Chico, which is home to about 90,000 people and is just west of the town of Paradise, where the fire continued to burn Friday. Officials said the blaze’s western perimeter is about 11 miles away from Canyon Oak, a golf course community that flanks Chico.

    Conditions in Paradise remain too unstable to do a door-to-door search, according to Butte County Sheriff Kory L. Honea. But law-enforcement are recovering bodies “with as much dignity as we can afford them,” he said.

    In an interview, Paradise Mayor Jody Jones said that her town has been devastated by the fire.

    Much of Paradise’s business district was gone, she said. One local hospital had burned. The McDonald’s and the Ace Hardware store were engulfed in flames.
    “I think we lost a high school and at least one of the elementary schools,” Jones said.

    Fed by high winds and a parched landscape, the wildfire began on Thursday morning, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, and was only 5% contained a day later. Officials estimated that 15,000 homes and other buildings are in the path of by the fast-moving blaze, which sent residents running for their lives.
    On Friday, firefighters were still finding pockets of holdouts, people who had stayed behind while thousands around them fled. A dozen homes were still occupied in Magalia, near the fire’s starting point, and their occupants needed to be ushered out, first responders told emergency dispatchers.

    Around them, one firefighter said, “is heavy structure damage.”

    The area is no stranger to wildfires. Ten years ago, a blaze struck Paradise, a town of 27,000 known as a popular retirement community. That fire chewed through dozens of structures and forced chaotic evacuations; the resulting panic was so alarming, angry residents showed up for months at community meetings demanding change.
    “There had been no planning,” said Peggy Musgrave, 85, who escaped the wrath of that fire only to find herself in gridlock again Thursday, joined by thousands of Paradise residents fleeing another raging fire.

    But this time, Musgrave said, she felt there was a measure of control. People had been mailed instructions on what to do: what to pack, what routes to take out of town and a reminder to plan for their pets. When she learned through word of mouth of the encroaching Camp fire, she went to her closet for her box of prized photographs and records, and to another for her jewelry, and then she left.

    “We immediately went into action,” she said.

    Traffic jammed. It took two hours for Musgrave to traverse approximately 16 miles. But at almost every intersection, she said, there was an informed official directing traffic and reassuring those in the evacuation gridlock they would be safe. “It gave you a feeling that if something did go wrong, we had somebody to be miserable with,” Musgrave said.
    Residents such as Howard Cole, who sought shelter from the Camp fire at a converted church in Oroville, know they are in fire country and say the evacuations are not unexpected.
    “This is our fourth evacuation in 10 years,” Cole said. “The first couple were chaos. It’s getting better.”

    Still, other Paradise residents were critical — not of the traffic jams that ensued, but of what they said was a lack of warning to get out in the first place.
    Jane Palmer, 77, said she received four automated calls the night before the fire. They were from Pacific Gas & Electric, telling her the utility was about to cut her power, which it did about 9:30 p.m.

    She said she realized Paradise was on fire and her mobile home park was threatened when she saw the smoke and flames. As she drove out, she encountered a neighbor, Patsy Jacobs, 62, trying to walk out. Palmer hauled her into the car and Jacobs, because Palmer cannot see well, navigated her rescuer through the bank of smoke and burning trees.
    “What pisses me off is I don’t think they told everybody soon enough,” said Kim Benn, 49, a neighbor who realized she needed to flee the fire when another resident pounded on her door.

    Butte County Sheriff Korey Honea said the county sent out automated warning calls to 23,862 households, using its Code Red system. However, it did not deploy a universal alert through the national emergency warning system that would have reached every cellphone within reach of activated cellphone towers.

    Benn said houses on her street were already on fire when she realized she needed to leave. The fire was advancing so quickly that she immediately abandoned her car to jump into a neighbor’s truck.

    “Don’t they realize this is a senior park?” Palmer said. “There’s only one way out. And had it not been for a fellow who had a meeting about evacuation in August, one of the residents, I wouldn’t have known what to do.”

    10:50 a.m.: This article was updated with fatalities reported in the fire.

    9:05 a.m.: This article was updated with new acreage numbers.

    This article was originally published at 8:10 a.m.

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    Yeah it's pretty smokey here in the city but nothing to complain about. Seeing those escape videos was horrible. I think I got some smoke in my eye - sniff. Are fireproof tires gonna be the next big thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Fatality reports are starting to come in.

    https://www.fresnobee.com/news/state...221417730.html
    I don't know why, but I clicked on a youtube link on a tweet, and it was a guy walking around a group of four of five burned out cars in a neighborhood. And they were not empty. Horrendous. I can't imagine the horror.

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    Over 6000 lost buildings, and who knows how many lives.

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    Upset

    I sh!t you not with this screenshot of a post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi View Post
    I sh!t you not with this screenshot of a post.
    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ite-camp-fire/

    *I'm sharing this hoping in some sad way it is NOT true because if it is PG&E is not just responsible for past transgressions but NOW more lives as well as an entire town! If this is true, pardon me for going there, but **** PG&E if they're the source of Camp Fire. If true PG&E needs to be immediately held accountable and shut down as a company with State and Federal Intervention and take over until an appropriate company can be brought online to take over operations.
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    *I'm sharing this hoping in some sad way it is NOT true because if it is PG&E is now not just responsible for past transgressions but NOW more lives as well as an entire town! If this is true, pardon me for going there, but **** PG&E if they're the source of Camp Fire. If true PG&E needs to be immediately held accountable and shut down as a company with State and Federal Intervention and take over until an appropriate company can be brought online to take over operations.
    Hardly. While I have no love for them as an organization, PG&E to some extent, is being scapegoated by the government in these fires. While PG & E may be the source of ignition, State and Federal forest management and fire prevention practices are the source of the fuel and scale of these conflagrations. Neither the feds or state have done anything meaningful to reduce fuel loads, and have created an economic disincentive to have private parties [commercial logging/firewood gathering] get involved. I'd start with CDF if you're looking for some place to point fingers -maybe they could change their staffing from mostly seasonal, to year round with controlled burning and thinning in the "off" season.
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    ^^^Too soon to place blame but the images in the news report show the fire under uber-voltage steel transmission towers. To power down those lines during high wind events would shut down huge areas of the state. Guess what; thousands of standby generators will be fired up. How's their fire record?
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    And in Santa Cruz

    From this: Environmentalists-push-back-against-PG&E-tree-cutting-in-Santa-Cruz

    ...there's this:

    "Several residents of the San Lorenzo Valley are pushing on the County board of supervisors to enforce local tree ordinances and require encroachment permits- arguing the environmental damage caused by cutting down trees is a bigger threat, particularly in the mountains, than wildfires."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe Ped View Post
    ^^^Too soon to place blame but the images in the news report show the fire under uber-voltage steel transmission towers. To power down those lines during high wind events would shut down huge areas of the state. Guess what; thousands of standby generators will be fired up. How's their fire record?
    Tragically, it's actually too late be placing blame/responsibility for a number of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe Ped View Post
    From this: Environmentalists-push-back-against-PG&E-tree-cutting-in-Santa-Cruz

    ...there's this:

    "Several residents of the San Lorenzo Valley are pushing on the County board of supervisors to enforce local tree ordinances and require encroachment permits- arguing the environmental damage caused by cutting down trees is a bigger threat, particularly in the mountains, than wildfires."

    NIMBY-idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe Ped View Post
    ^^^Too soon to place blame but the images in the news report show the fire under uber-voltage steel transmission towers. To power down those lines during high wind events would shut down huge areas of the state. Guess what; thousands of standby generators will be fired up. How's their fire record?
    There is almost never a reason, even in red flag areas to power down transmission high voltage lines. The towers are built to withstand 90+mph winds and the right of ways are always cleared.

    The problems are with the lower voltage distribution lines on wood polls. Some locals residents fight tree cutting and have the right to refuse access. PG&E is state and federally regulated to supply power to these areas and has to adhere to all safety regulations. If they neglect the lines and ignore problems then they are complicit and should be held responsible. On the other hand if they are complying and working as hard as possible to correct problems as they arise then they are not responsible. You have to supply power to to these remote ares under state law. This is not something anyone can ignore on a moral or financial basses. I only bring money into this as a secondary factor, company's do care about this.

    California is a tinder box. This is the greater problem. Without some kind of plan in place to combat our extraordinarily dry forests this is going to keep happening. My heart goes out the the people effected by this tragedy.
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    So the reports and harrowing tales are starting to come out. Indications are that this is worse than Santa Rosa.

    6000 mostly homes already burned and many, many did not survive. It's hard to fathom.
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    Yup. What I feel really impacted by is I trained as a Firefighter along with my Responder stuff when I was a young-in up at CSUC. Guess where our training camp was at? Paradise and above.

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    This is the back of my friends Nick & Suzan's house. It was a work in progress. That sliding glass door was super-expensive- had the blinds sandwiched in between glass. He used to be in construction, so he was very adept at home improvement. I was not so adept, however, I would go up & help bang a nail or two, and help drink copious amounts of not-so-cheap beer.

    His wife used to work at Lowe's- every chance she got, usually weekly, she would get something for the house on the cheap that someone had returned. They did this for years- stockpiling home additions for their "new" house they bought a couple years ago in Paradise- expensive doors, light fixtures, chandeliers, hardware, the list goes on and on.

    Now most likely gone. Along with his drums in the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH40 View Post
    Paradise Town Hall, Hospital and High School are still standing, actually. There has been a lot of misinformation according the the councilwoman on the live feed. Still an epic tragedy. I know several people between Chico and Shasta that are bailing out of CA forever because of this fire climate.
    Hospital is gone, the roof fell in on it.. all the imaging equipment is now leaking radiation in the area. The town is pretty much flattened besides Ace, Kmart and the hotel.

    The fatalities are going to skyrocket in the coming days. I can't tell you how many we found/pulled out yesterday. They won't confirm anything until the person can be identified. I didn't make it to Concow but I heard from teams coming down the hill the fatalities will be in the 100s.

    It's unfathomable the amount of destruction up here at the moment.. The weather is not looking good for tomorrow and we are getting everyone out form the north east right now due to a wind shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    This is the back of my friends Nick & Suzan's house. It was a work in progress. That sliding glass door was super-expensive- had the blinds sandwiched in between glass. He used to be in construction, so he was very adept at home improvement. I was not so adept, however, I would go up & help bang a nail or two, and help drink copious amounts of not-so-cheap beer.

    His wife used to work at Lowe's- every chance she got, usually weekly, she would get something for the house on the cheap that someone had returned. They did this for years- stockpiling home additions for their "new" house they bought a couple years ago in Paradise- expensive doors, light fixtures, chandeliers, hardware, the list goes on and on.

    Now most likely gone. Along with his drums in the basement.

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    If you can PM me an address I can go check for you.

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    If you can PM me an address I can go check for you.
    PM sent. Thank you so much.

    If you need a description while you're there, don't hesitate to call me.

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    110 people missing so far, a very sad time indeed.

    https://www.apnews.com/21231ab70a4d4369833dee2f723d8e04

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    I have no words for this.
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    Confirmed that the fire swept through Butte College and has now jumped Hwy99, is into upper Lake Oroville, Big Bend, Pentz, and Butte Valley. Magalia as appears in the map above also was swept through. Somehow they're barely managing to keep things back at Butte Creek and 20th but the outlook is not good for South Chico unless they can get things under better control.

    I can't get the flatbed trailer up there and honestly my hands are tied. Gary (Finchy), if you or anyone else does indeed decide to head up, as small a gesture as this will be see if you can swing down through the East Bay and pickup a bag of stuffed toys we want given to the efforts. It's the holiday season and we want kids to have something, even if it's just a toy to have as comfort. You can reach me via PM or those on FB can message me while I'm working this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi View Post
    Confirmed that the fire swept through Butte College and has now jumped Hwy99, is into upper Lake Oroville, Big Bend, Pentz, and Butte Valley. Magalia as appears in the map above also was swept through. Somehow they're barely managing to keep things back at Butte Creek and 20th but the outlook is not good for South Chico unless they can get things under better control.

    I can't get the flatbed trailer up there and honestly my hands are tied. Gary (Finchy), if you or anyone else does indeed decide to head up, as small a gesture as this will be see if you can swing down through the East Bay and pickup a bag of stuffed toys we want given to the efforts. It's the holiday season and we want kids to have something, even if it's just a toy to have as comfort. You can reach me via PM or those on FB can message me while I'm working this week.
    Not sure where you are getting your info from but its not correct. Butte College did not burn as thats been the command post. The grasslands around it did burn but there was very little fuel. The fire did not cross HWY 99 and the fire is no longer burning anywhere near chico

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi View Post
    Confirmed that the fire swept through Butte College and has now jumped Hwy99, is into upper Lake Oroville, Big Bend, Pentz, and Butte Valley. Magalia as appears in the map above also was swept through. Somehow they're barely managing to keep things back at Butte Creek and 20th but the outlook is not good for South Chico unless they can get things under better control.

    I can't get the flatbed trailer up there and honestly my hands are tied. Gary (Finchy), if you or anyone else does indeed decide to head up, as small a gesture as this will be see if you can swing down through the East Bay and pickup a bag of stuffed toys we want given to the efforts. It's the holiday season and we want kids to have something, even if it's just a toy to have as comfort. You can reach me via PM or those on FB can message me while I'm working this week.
    Thanks, Obi, but me driving to the Bay Area and then up to Chico is just not feasible. I'd rather send them the $$ I'd use for gas. Now I'm just looking around local for someone who's already going to be driving up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzorich View Post
    Not sure where you are getting your info from but its not correct. Butte College did not burn as thats been the command post. The grasslands around it did burn but there was very little fuel. The fire did not cross HWY 99 and the fire is no longer burning anywhere near chico
    "Swept through", never said otherwise, sorry if you took it that way. I may need to work on my paraphrasing because the info I was given was from someone in town and what she said was reflected in the map so I took it as fact. Thanks for the reply.
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    Town of Paradise releases list of confirmed residences that have burned by more than 50%: https://krcrtv.com/news/camp-fire/to...yed-residences

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    A friend, Steve Cooper is there now documenting the scene. The fire in places got hot enough to melt metal.Town of Paradise being evacuated due to Camp Fire 🔥-46104974_10155976089965773_5893735100608151552_o.jpg
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    Interactive map of destroyed homes/structures, with photos.

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    Damn shame. I lived in Chico in 1994 and regularly rode (roadbike, sorry, even wore long white socks since it was the accepted fashion at the time) up to Paradise. It was a beautiful town, surrounded by tall trees. I often wondered if they had a proper plan for a wildfire, seeing as everything was shrouded in the forest. Now it seems it’s completely gone. This hella sucks.
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    Yesterday, 130 missing.

    Today 631. Jeeeeez, a little difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Yesterday, 130 missing.

    Today 631. Jeeeeez, a little difference
    The list of the missing can be found here:

    https://www.kcra.com/article/more-th...-fire/25095429

    Scroll through the names. At the very least, this is 600 more PEOPLE who's lives aren't going to be the same again. Bear that in mind when you hear or read anything from any elected official regarding this event.
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    My friends' house.

    Houses on either side survived. Weird.

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    Or the threads of online forums ; )
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    My aunt and uncle lost their house in Paradise. Right now they're staying with their daughter in Chico and just found out that their insurance will pay out 100% of what they claim lost in the fire. My uncle lived in Paradise for most of his life and was a firefighter there. They're planning on rebuilding their house, but Paradise is never going to be the same.

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    My aunt and uncle lost their house in Paradise. Right now they're staying with their daughter in Chico and just found out that their insurance will pay out 100% of what they claim lost in the fire. My uncle lived in Paradise for most of his life and was a firefighter there. They're planning on rebuilding their house, but Paradise is never going to be the same.
    Make sure they list everything - EVERYTHING - in as much detail as possible.

    For instance a shower/tub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Damn shame. I lived in Chico in 1994 and regularly rode (roadbike, sorry, even wore long white socks since it was the accepted fashion at the time) up to Paradise. It was a beautiful town, surrounded by tall trees. I often wondered if they had a proper plan for a wildfire, seeing as everything was shrouded in the forest. Now it seems it’s completely gone. This hella sucks.
    It sounds like they had a proper plan. Even tested it 1.5 years ago. No plan was able to get that many people out that quickly. The speed of the fire was completely unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    Make sure they list everything - EVERYTHING - in as much detail as possible.

    For instance a shower/tub.

    Shampoo - $5
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    Etc
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    It all adds up and it all needs to be replaced.

    Good info here:
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    $5 for shampoo? More like scampoo.

    Nice try, though.

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    My friends' house.

    Houses on either side survived. Weird.

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    Or the threads of online forums ; )
    except bike forums. majority good people.

    Whenever a cyclist is killed by a car, run down from behind, the comments on newspaper articles are at another level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    My friends' house.

    Houses on either side survived. Weird.

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    That's too bad. It is interesting that amongst many burned down homes, one will be standing in near pristine condition. Do you think roof sprinklers are the reason?

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    except bike forums. majority good people.

    Whenever a cyclist is killed by a car, run down from behind, the comments on newspaper articles are at another level.
    100%. Read local peninsula newspaper online comments for a dose of crazy.

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    That's too bad. It is interesting that amongst many burned down homes, one will be standing in near pristine condition. Do you think roof sprinklers are the reason?
    I'm pretty sure neither of the neighbors had roof sprinklers. Might have just been bad luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5k bike 50cent legs View Post
    That's too bad. It is interesting that amongst many burned down homes, one will be standing in near pristine condition. Do you think roof sprinklers are the reason?
    The untouched shrubbery in that photo grabbed me.

    I think one house by burning ferociously may create a counter draft that saves neighboring homes. Of course a very vigilant homeowner who's taken all the precautions will have a better chance than those who don't.

    Another observation from 6 decades of living in rural CA; those flat "natural" firebreaks are what tend to get developed first---much cheaper to build homes there. Ridge lines get a lot of houses too; the be$t views are from there.
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    If you have the money to pay for more / better goods / services you have better goods / services.

    Literally that's our society and capitalism. There have been no instances of communism working lately, so it's what we are stuck with.

    I am more surprised that government allows private firefighters to work in evacuation zones than that they exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieno View Post
    If you have the money to pay for more / better goods / services you have better goods / services.

    Literally that's our society and capitalism.

    I am more surprised that government allows private firefighters to work in evacuation zones than that they exist.
    Yeah. Whose water are they gonna use? What if the private fire fighters use all the water?

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    Yeah. Who's water are they gonna use? What if the private fire fighters use all the water?
    I don't know the logistics of water usage. But I do know a Ventura County fire chief and I'll ask him his thoughts on it over the next week or so.

    I am not going to get mad just because private firefighter exist and are deployed by insurance companies to protect their customers.

    I'll research, figure out how/if they negatively impact public FF efforts and then ill get my pitchfork.

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