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    SoCal Dive Boat Fire

    This is really sad and tragic.

    It looks like the boat was chartered by an adventure company out of Santa Cruz. I'm afraid this one is going to be felt by many of us/you.

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/us/artic...m-14408757.php
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    This is a big one. Quite similar to the Ghost Ship fire in scope.

    Many young ones it seems. RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    This is really sad and tragic.

    It looks like the boat was chartered by an adventure company out of Santa Cruz. I'm afraid this one is going to be felt by many of us/you.

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/us/artic...m-14408757.php
    Reading the accounts from the captain and crew it was a total tragedy, with them unable to get the people inside the boat out, getting injured getting out of the ship, begging a neighboring boat to assist in anyway possible, and total shock. Seems like nothing they could do and nothing that could be done.

    RIP to those, especially the young ones just starting their lives.
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    Ugh. Family of 5 from Stockton.

    Horrible.
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    Supposed to be a few from San Jose and Santa Cruz too.

    What a crappy way to go.

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    This is one of the worst charter boat disasters I've ever heard of. Maybe the the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
    This is one of the worst charter boat disasters I've ever heard of. Maybe the the worst.
    I was thinking the same thing.
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    When I was still in my teens, I would skipper and crew my families' 36' Angleman Sea Witch ketch for San Diego tourists, day sail only, and minimal coddling too. Did everything the "old way", meaning no use of the diesel engine, just sail only. This charter boat company has a damn perfect record for all its' charters, met all the minimum standards and then some.
    I find it very very hard to conceive of what went wrong there to kill everyone. That would be just a crushing blow.

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    I can't imagine boarding a boat without knowing my egress routes. I don't understand how a fire could completely block access without anyone having time to sound the alarm, especially as it sounds like there was crew topside. Really interested in hearing the report.

    I have 10 years of sea time myself in the USCG. Circumnavigated the world.

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    I heard on the radio that the compartment they were in had two routes out, but they went to the same area which was engulfed in flames. I'm sure we're learn a lot more.

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    Article in the SacBee on the Stockton victims.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/californ...234725382.html

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    I heard they were all asleep when the fire occurred. I guess the disorientation from waking up, and poor visibility in a confined space could cause people to asphyxiate pretty quickly?

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    One of the Channel 3 (sacto) anchors, Eddie Lambert, is an experienced recreational diver that was on the ship several times and knew several of the people on the boat. She has not participated in the news of the fire much - I suspect that she is afraid she would loose it on air.

    There was an equipment closet on the boat where all the lithium ion batteries for cameras, dive lights, etc were charged overnight. I wonder if a battery failed and overheated the rest in the compartment until they exploded setting the entire level of the boat on fire instantly and blocking the exits.

    Lithium ion batteries are useful little bombs. Newer designs do not catch fire so easily, but all will explode if overheated. We all treat them so casually - youtube has video after video of exploding laptops, phones, scooters, hoverboards, etc. I'm taking another look at how and where I charge the bazzillion Li - ion batteries on my house and try to make them safer.
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    SoCal Dive Boat Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by NRP View Post
    I heard they were all asleep when the fire occurred. I guess the disorientation from waking up, and poor visibility in a confined space could cause people to asphyxiate pretty quickly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemike View Post
    One of the Channel 3 (sacto) anchors, Eddie Lambert, is an experienced recreational diver that was on the ship several times and knew several of the people on the boat. She has not participated in the news of the fire much - I suspect that she is afraid she would loose it on air.

    There was an equipment closet on the boat where all the lithium ion batteries for cameras, dive lights, etc were charged overnight. I wonder if a battery failed and overheated the rest in the compartment until they exploded setting the entire level of the boat on fire instantly and blocking the exits.

    Lithium ion batteries are useful little bombs. Newer designs do not catch fire so easily, but all will explode if overheated. We all treat them so casually - youtube has video after video of exploding laptops, phones, scooters, hoverboards, etc. I'm taking another look at how and where I charge the bazzillion Li - ion batteries on my house and try to make them safer.
    I hadn't heard a lot of news or details but assumed it was an explosion. I think there are charging pads or even small flame proof covers. This will be a consideration in my family as well.
    Assuming the best of the crew, procedures and their documented safety record, variables like the electronics and technology brought on board would the one big variable such as charger cords, batteries etc.Ö.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telemike View Post
    One of the Channel 3 (sacto) anchors, Eddie Lambert, is an experienced recreational diver that was on the ship several times and knew several of the people on the boat. She has not participated in the news of the fire much - I suspect that she is afraid she would loose it on air.

    There was an equipment closet on the boat where all the lithium ion batteries for cameras, dive lights, etc were charged overnight. I wonder if a battery failed and overheated the rest in the compartment until they exploded setting the entire level of the boat on fire instantly and blocking the exits.

    Lithium ion batteries are useful little bombs. Newer designs do not catch fire so easily, but all will explode if overheated. We all treat them so casually - youtube has video after video of exploding laptops, phones, scooters, hoverboards, etc. I'm taking another look at how and where I charge the bazzillion Li - ion batteries on my house and try to make them safer.
    This is a good clue. Lithium batteries are most dangerous when charging. One bad charger not shutting off when done WILL ignite a battery.

    And when there is a room/closet full of batteries, one ignition can light all the others on fire. This kind of fire is volatile like a Tesla car fire.

    Magicshine lights and hoverboards had this battery charging issue.

    I am sure that many of these folks had many many lithium batteries to charge for dive lights and camera gear. Light and Motion's main business in fact is dive lights and not bike lights.
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    The smoke in an enclosed space is likely disabling and overwhelming before the fire actually burns anyone. I've had to put out fires in aircraft fuselages with a smoke hood and even then I couldn't see anything except a bit of the yellow of the flame (no structure, no seats, no windows, everything obscured by smoke). It's easy to underestimate this, but in any enclosed space with plastics and stuff that will burn, that will get you before the flame IME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    The smoke in an enclosed space is likely disabling and overwhelming before the fire actually burns anyone. I've had to put out fires in aircraft fuselages with a smoke hood and even then I couldn't see anything except a bit of the yellow of the flame (no structure, no seats, no windows, everything obscured by smoke). It's easy to underestimate this, but in any enclosed space with plastics and stuff that will burn, that will get you before the flame IME.
    I just hope they were rendered unconscious before they perished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
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