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    Ride the bike to work once a week? Start tomorrow?

    Who's in? I know there are only 2 days left this week, but wees gots to start somewhere.

    I feel sorry for the giant oil companies catching so much flack for making $10,000,000,000 profit per quarter, that i think we should help them out.

    A friend at work had a good idea for those starting, or that have longish commutes; ride 1 leg of the commute to start. Ride in and get a ride home, or bring bike and gear in via car and ride home. Next morning, ride in again and drive home.

    Those that ride everyday or nearly everyday, i raise a glass to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    Who's in? I know there are only 2 days left this week, but wees gots to start somewhere.

    I feel sorry for the giant oil companies catching so much flack for making $10,000,000,000 profit per quarter, that i think we should help them out.

    A friend at work had a good idea for those starting, or that have longish commutes; ride 1 leg of the commute to start. Ride in and get a ride home, or bring bike and gear in via car and ride home. Next morning, ride in again and drive home.

    Those that ride everyday or nearly everyday, i raise a glass to you.
    You bet! I rode in yesterday, and I'm riding again tomorrow. 6 miles each way, or a bit longer if I take the scenic route through the hills

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    I rode to work today-- almost 14 miles one way. It's a little longer these days since they closed the 87 bike path. Dan rode yesterday.

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    I work at a bike shop, I ride to work every day.

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    I tried to ride 2/3 times weekly for a 28 miles round trip commute. Finally the weather makes the commute more enjoyable. A word of advice for the first time commuter: be very aware of cars at crossroads, cars passing you too close, car doors and dogs etc.... and rock throwing teenagers. A group of them throw a rock at me a couple of weeks ago and hit me on the shoulder. They were 4 so I kept on going and I didn't have my cell to call the cops

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    Wtf???

    Quote Originally Posted by VTT
    ...and rock throwing teenagers. A group of them throw a rock at me a couple of weeks ago and hit me on the shoulder. They were 4 so I kept on going and I didn't have my cell to call the cops
    What do these guys do, stock up on rocks to throw? Do they have a car load of rocks at the ready? If a cop pulls them over, does the cop look in the back and wonder about the huge pile of rocks on the seat?

    In court, would it be premeditation if a cop "busted" them with a carloada rocks?

    Who drives around with rocks?? That is just weird.

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    I've been unable to not ride this week. The weather is just too nice! FINALLY!

    I rode an extended commute on Monday - 6mi to the office, 18mi to the Orinda BART to PH and another 4mi home. ibisGuy met up with Pimpy and me for the ride through the 3 bears over to Orinda where Pimp took the Oak bound train and IG and I went the other way.

    I needed my truck on Tuesday but met up with a neighbor for a less than 10mi combo road and trail on the Tracer.

    Yesterday after commuting 6mi into the office on the road bike, Pimp and I picked up our FS bikes from respective homes and rode during work over at Tilden since we were going to be there anyway. I'm pretty sure we rode less than 15 miles.

    My legs are pretty toasty this morning but I'm contemplating commuting again.
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    Hell no.

    WTF? Bikes are toys, not commute vehicles. When it's time to man up and go to work, I make sure my tank is full, I've got a pile of baseball-sized rocks in the passenger seat, my right-hand mirror is sticking waaaaaay out, my rear view mirror is adjusted so I can fix my hair, my cell phone is at hand, there's a DVD playing on the dashboard TV, and breakfast + coffee are in the cupholders. That way I've got enough to do so I don't get bored and end up having to actually look where I'm going.

    And how many of you are riding ROADS to work? That's what I thought. STFU. Get the hell off the road. Roads are for CARS. Get this discussion off this board. Don't make BigLarry angry.

    -Mike, "Melt For President" P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger
    I needed my truck on Tuesday but met up with a neighbor for a less than 10mi combo road and trail on the Tracer.
    How are you liking that bike? I keep hoping for a review, but I must have missed it.

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    Lol, thanks for the laughs.

    This reminds me of a while ago where I read Tinker would ride with his backpack full of rocks for training purposes. Or at least that's what he said. Now we know the real reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    Hell no.

    WTF? Bikes are toys, not commute vehicles. When it's time to man up and go to work, I make sure my tank is full, I've got a pile of baseball-sized rocks in the passenger seat, my right-hand mirror is sticking waaaaaay out, my rear view mirror is adjusted so I can fix my hair, my cell phone is at hand, there's a DVD playing on the dashboard TV, and breakfast + coffee are in the cupholders. That way I've got enough to do so I don't get bored and end up having to actually look where I'm going.

    And how many of you are riding ROADS to work? That's what I thought. STFU. Get the hell off the road. Roads are for CARS. Get this discussion off this board. Don't make BigLarry angry.

    -Mike, "Melt For President" P.

    (There's no winky available, not even that kissyface one, so I can't use it - but if you needed one you've probably never met me. Man, am I cranky this morning. It's 'cause for the first time this week I had to get in my car and drive to work. Driving sucks. I want a pile of rocks to throw at other cars.)
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    On day 3...

    this week..Its a great way to get miles in... I wonder if the higher gas prices are going to make motorists more aggravated when you pass um on your bike as they sit in traffic..

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    The DUH story of the year.

    From CNN today:

    (CNN) -- Multi-tasking drivers are three times as likely to be involved in a crash as more attentive motorists who don't dab on makeup, eat breakfast, or chat on cell phones, a new study reveals.

    The study offers scientific support for what most people already suspected: Inattentive driving causes accidents, and young drivers are much more likely to have inattention-related crashes.

    Almost 80 percent of crashes and 65 percent of near-crashes happen within three seconds of some form of driver distraction, according to the report by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute.

    The two research groups tracked the behavior of 241 drivers in 100 sensor-equipped vehicles for more than a year. During the 2 million miles of the study, the drivers were involved in 82 crashes and 761 near-crashes.

    Reaching for a moving object multiplied the risk of a crash or near-crash by nine times, according to the study. Reading, applying makeup, or dialing a handheld device tripled the risk.

    The study found that drivers between 18 and 20 were four times as likely to have inattention-related crashes and near-crashes as drivers over 35.

    Drowsiness is also a problem, the researchers found. They said drowsy drivers are four times as likely to have a crash or near-crash.

    Researchers found that the most common distraction for drivers is the use of cell phones. The seconds spent dialing are the most dangerous.

    "This important research illustrates the potentially dire consequences that can occur while driving distracted or drowsy," said Jacqueline Glassman, acting administrator of NHTSA. "It's crucial that drivers always be alert when on the road."
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    Well, since you asked...

    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte
    How are you liking that bike? I keep hoping for a review, but I must have missed it.

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    I posted pictures on the Intense forum but I guess that kinda excluded you non-Intense folks. I took pictures during the build, wrote a description and put it here: Intents WARNING - DIAL UP UNFRIENDLY!!

    Since the last page on Briones Mafia, I have ridden it 3 times - last Saturday on the south side of Mt. D, a little spin around the hood for some Paso Nogal gravel trail and Chutes & Ladders at DVC on Tuesday and yesterday on the muddy steep fireroads at Tilden.

    It really feels good in most respects. I haven't experienced "pedal bob" in any great amount but I did get my first glimpse of "brake jack" on a steep descent with a tight corner. I pulled off an almost-endo but released the front brake at the last moment allowing the bike to go from vertical (me standing straight up with the rear wheel between my legs) to wheels-down. I also experienced my first "chain suck" yesterday after the chain (and the rest of the bike) (and me for that matter) became entirely encrusted in mud.

    The frame geometry and high bottom bracket make riding the bike a truly SUV experience although I don't feel that sitting that high makes the bike feel unstable. I have still stopped a few times when instinctively I thought I was going to bash the ring or BB on an obstacle but have found that I have clearance inches to spare. I'll get used to that eventually.

    Going from a Rohloff to a conventional drivetrain is also a learning experience. I am spoiled by the speedhub's ability to shift under load and without lag. I have found myself a few times starting to climb a hill in the wrong gear and unable to shift under load, which brings me to a stop.

    I have found, though, that I like my granny gear. Steep hills may take all day to climb but I can climb them without dismounting in most cases.

    The 8" front brake really has stopping power and modulation - I didn't really know what to expect but I am happy with that choice.

    The Manitou QRL shock bobs less than I would expect, considering it is not a stable platform bla, bla, bla, but the lockout appears to not work and I should probably figure that out some time soon.

    The Marzocchi AM1 has alot of adjustments and options. Maybe too many. I started off with it set at about 110mm but decided to ramp it out to 130mm during the ride. The lockout function came in VERY handy on the Tilden wall climbs although I didn't use it the previous ride at Mt. Diablo. The lockout lever location on the left fork is fairly easy to use.

    There's also some kind of adjustment on the right side top that allows the resistance to be made stiffer at full length. Not sure what it's called but if I turn it CCW it is good for really rough terrain and the more I turn it CW, the more resistance it gives for smoother surfaces during descent.

    I also picked up a used Marathon SL 105 recently. I am thinking to install the shorter fork and change the frame settings on the tracer to the 4" lower BB link setting and the longer chainstay to lower the geometry and make it more stable during descent. This should lighten the bike by about 2 lbs.

    I still haven't weighed it but it feels like 32-35 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Law
    ....It's a little longer these days since they closed the 87 bike path. Dan rode yesterday.
    WTF!!! That sucks... My commute was 15 miles each way...now What route do y'all take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    Who's in? I know there are only 2 days left this week, but wees gots to start somewhere.
    Well I'm a bit too close to work to actually bike to work. It's only a half a block. What I do is go out for a spin during my lunch hour or right after work. I got out last night for a real quick hour long ride and was out with Dan'ger and Pimpbot on Monday. It's the road bike, but once the trails in the nearby hills dry out I'll be on those with the mtn bike. I got a loop in my head that I think I can do during my lunch hour on my mtn bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    Hell no.

    WTF? Bikes are toys, not commute vehicles. When it's time to man up and go to work, I make sure my tank is full, I've got a pile of baseball-sized rocks in the passenger seat, my right-hand mirror is sticking waaaaaay out, my rear view mirror is adjusted so I can fix my hair, my cell phone is at hand, there's a DVD playing on the dashboard TV, and breakfast + coffee are in the cupholders. That way I've got enough to do so I don't get bored and end up having to actually look where I'm going.

    And how many of you are riding ROADS to work? That's what I thought. STFU. Get the hell off the road. Roads are for CARS. Get this discussion off this board. Don't make BigLarry angry.

    -Mike, "Melt For President" P.

    (There's no winky available, not even that kissyface one, so I can't use it - but if you needed one you've probably never met me. Man, am I cranky this morning. It's 'cause for the first time this week I had to get in my car and drive to work. Driving sucks. I want a pile of rocks to throw at other cars.)

    Speaking of DVD playing on the dash board, a few years ago, I was commuting home with my wife, and we were in stop and go traffic in East PA trying to get across the Dumbarton. We pull alongside this guy in a mini SUV, and my wife looks over, and it turns out that the guy was watching porn on his dashboard. Now, it begs the question, how desperate do you have to be so that you need to watch porn while commuting home at 6pm?

    Other than that, if work hours allow next week, I'll probably ride home at least one night (18 miles).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    ...I've got a pile of baseball-sized rocks in the passenger seat...
    Yo Bubba, like others have said, no one carries rocks around in their car, if you're busted they will call it pre-meditation. However, if you're like me, you've probably got a case of empty beer bottles behind the seat of your pickup, right? Then it's a crime of passion. ;-)

    -slide

    p.s. Commute is 15 miles a day on the hard tail, 3-5 days a week when the sun is out.

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    Rode to work

    today and Tuesday. 15 to 20 miles round trip depending on after work errands for the boss. Definitely worth it- very scenic, my bike commute is from Santa Cruz to Scotts Valley
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    I did a simillar split on commute when I was doing the Cupertino-Scotts Valley commute. With over 2K of climbing each way, 24mi, and a bit over 2 hours each way it wasn't really feasible to do round trip in a single day. I would have to bank 5 hours on top of the 8hr work day. You can do it during the longer summer days, but in the winter you gotta break it down or get a light.

    Now I live less than a mile from work, so I commute by bike daily Only difficulties I have are carrying coffee and supplies to do rides at lunch/after work.

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    Bigger question that shouldn't be answered

    Quote Originally Posted by zorg
    ... it turns out that the guy was watching porn on his dashboard.
    Where was his other hand instead of help drive?
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Huh?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Law
    It's a little longer these days since they closed the 87 bike path.
    With higher temps out I've been tempted to start commuting - perhaps 15 miles depending on the route I find. Up to now I just MTB before work. Avoiding accidents and deliberates has always been an issue for me on road biking so I'd prefer a bike path.

    I was going to scout out the Guadalupe path under 87 in the next few days. They're supposed to make that path totally continuous all the way from SJ sometime in 2006. But you say it's closed now? What's a good alternate to Santa Clara?
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    Mighty cranky this morning, aren't you Mike?

    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    ...And how many of you are riding ROADS to work? That's what I thought. STFU. Get the hell off the road. Roads are for CARS. Get this discussion off this board. Don't make BigLarry angry.

    -Mike, "Melt For President" P.

    (There's no winky available, not even that kissyface one, so I can't use it - but if you needed one you've probably never met me. Man, am I cranky this morning. It's 'cause for the first time this week I had to get in my car and drive to work. Driving sucks. I want a pile of rocks to throw at other cars.)
    Important things first. You can still make a winky like this: ;-)

    As for me being angry at roadies, or talk about road rides, I wasn't angry and even enjoy those threads a bit. I've done road quite a bit too. I was just poking fun at an MTB board becoming a roady board, due to the rain most likely.

    As for bike commuting, I decided not to own a car for two years up in Petaluma and only rode bikes and buses for everything, not just commuting. But with the new toddler pickup, zigzag routes through city centers, and other issues (excuses) it's been tough down here in SJ. So I instead ride MTB nearby before work and then drive in. But I'm now serioiusly looking at restoring my commuter bike and searching for a good safe route. Sometimes I combine public transit if it gets me past long or bad sections quickly. The first few times need almost 2 hours to explore routes. Maybe I'll do that on weekends. Even still, I suspect I'll only bike commute a couple times a week. I like MTB in the morning too much to spend time on the road.

    Oh, and if you can't bike commute, do a quick MTB ride before leaving so you don't need to be so grouchy. Works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dscot420
    I did a simillar split on commute when I was doing the Cupertino-Scotts Valley commute. With over 2K of climbing each way, 24mi, and a bit over 2 hours each way it wasn't really feasible to do round trip in a single day. I would have to bank 5 hours on top of the 8hr work day. You can do it during the longer summer days, but in the winter you gotta break it down or get a light.
    Wow, that would be a long day but what a cool route to ride
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    Well...

    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    Those that ride everyday or nearly everyday, i raise a glass to you.
    Since I don't drive to work my car spends most of the week parked in the garage. I figured out the other day that my Jetta now spends more miles with my bikes on the roof than without.

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    As Jimmy Kimmel sez..

    Quote Originally Posted by zorg
    Speaking of DVD playing on the dash board, a few years ago, I was commuting home with my wife, and we were in stop and go traffic in East PA trying to get across the Dumbarton. We pull alongside this guy in a mini SUV, and my wife looks over, and it turns out that the guy was watching porn on his dashboard. Now, it begs the question, how desperate do you have to be so that you need to watch porn while commuting home at 6pm?

    Other than that, if work hours allow next week, I'll probably ride home at least one night (18 miles).
    When life sez no, porn sez yes...

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    Yes, this guy has to break up his bike commute. 372 miles is a bit much to pedal in one day.

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    ITASCA, Ill. April 12, 2006 – How far are you willing to drive to work? For Dave Givens of Mariposa, Calif., the answer is 186 miles – one way – good enough to take first place in Midas International’s search for “America’s Longest Commute.” Givens out-drove thousands of other entrants to take home the grand prize of $10,000 in gas money as well as an array of Midas maintenance services and products.

    “He’s the ultimate road warrior. 2006 is Midas’ 50 th anniversary, so we know a thing or two about staying power,” said Rick Dow, senior vice president and chief marketing officer for Midas. “We commend his perseverance and commitment to his job and to his family. We also want to lighten his load a bit by providing some gas money relief as well as some maintenance services and products to improve his mileage. Let’s face it, he needs all the help he can get!”

    Givens, an electrical engineer with Cisco Systems, Inc., in San Jose, Calif., drives a 186-mile one-way commute five days a week, a round-trip journey of 372 miles that takes a total of seven hours. He has been making the lengthy commute since 1989.

    “I have a great job and my family loves the ranch where we live,” he said in explaining why he makes the commute. “So this is the only solution.”

    What does he do during his long trek? “I listen to the radio and keep my eyes on the road,” he says. “I also drink a lot coffee.”
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    I saw him on TV. He's a pretty enthusiastic ex-military fellow. He wakes up 4:30am and gets home at 8:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm
    When life sez no, porn sez yes...
    Either that, or it was a really good one that he got at work and he could not wait until he got home to start watching... Well, at least, he was not throwing rocks at cyclists.
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    I saw

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yes, this guy has to break up his bike commute. 372 miles is a bit much to pedal in one day.

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    ITASCA, Ill. April 12, 2006 – How far are you willing to drive to work? For Dave Givens of Mariposa, Calif., the answer is 186 miles – one way – good enough to take first place in Midas International’s search for “America’s Longest Commute.” Givens out-drove thousands of other entrants to take home the grand prize of $10,000 in gas money as well as an array of Midas maintenance services and products.

    “He’s the ultimate road warrior. 2006 is Midas’ 50 th anniversary, so we know a thing or two about staying power,” said Rick Dow, senior vice president and chief marketing officer for Midas. “We commend his perseverance and commitment to his job and to his family. We also want to lighten his load a bit by providing some gas money relief as well as some maintenance services and products to improve his mileage. Let’s face it, he needs all the help he can get!”

    Givens, an electrical engineer with Cisco Systems, Inc., in San Jose, Calif., drives a 186-mile one-way commute five days a week, a round-trip journey of 372 miles that takes a total of seven hours. He has been making the lengthy commute since 1989.

    “I have a great job and my family loves the ranch where we live,” he said in explaining why he makes the commute. “So this is the only solution.”

    What does he do during his long trek? “I listen to the radio and keep my eyes on the road,” he says. “I also drink a lot coffee.”
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    I saw him on TV. He's a pretty enthusiastic ex-military fellow. He wakes up 4:30am and gets home at 8:30.

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    I commute daily

    Rain or shine....

    however, it's a 1.6 mile coast to work, but I have to pedal coming home.

    I try to take the scenic route (6-8miles depending)to work as often as I can, but since the weather has turned nice.. I've been sleeping in.

    I have the luxury of being able to take an hour spin on the bike path to Richmond and back on my luch brakes. I've taken advantage of this twice this week as well as a ride up Tunnelroad Monday night

    If I'm not careful, I may actually start getting more fit... quick an IPA and a bag of chips!!!

    PS.... Bring back Winky Smiley!... just not with the kissy face.

    Mike, your post was hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velocipus

    If I'm not careful, I may actually start getting more fit... quick an IPA and a bag of chips!!!
    Dude, you can't do that to me. You and I are supposed to be the slow ones. If you start getting fast, then I'll really look bad being the only slow guy. So listen to your team captain: drink more beer!!
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    Hmmm, those Cisco guys are crazy.
    I wonder what else he has been commuting in for, since he has only been working at Cisco for ~8 years.

    I wonder how many days he works from home...

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    Way to go Ogre man! I wish i can get myself to that state and problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte
    What do these guys do, stock up on rocks to throw? Do they have a car load of rocks at the ready? If a cop pulls them over, does the cop look in the back and wonder about the huge pile of rocks on the seat?

    In court, would it be premeditation if a cop "busted" them with a carloada rocks?

    Who drives around with rocks?? That is just weird.

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    They were parked along a street and picked-up a small rock from someone front yard and threw it. I turned my face away to avoid the rock and got hit on the shoulder instead. I had another couple miles before home, I figured they will be gone by the time I call the cops...

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    My AM1 works great - give it a chance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger
    .. I did get my first glimpse of "brake jack" on a steep descent with a tight corner. I pulled off an almost-endo but released the front brake at the last moment allowing the bike to go from vertical (me standing straight up with the rear wheel between my legs) to wheels-down. I also experienced my first "chain suck" yesterday after the chain (and the rest of the bike) (and me for that matter) became entirely encrusted in mud.
    ...
    Going from a Rohloff to a conventional drivetrain is also a learning experience. I am spoiled by the speedhub's ability to shift under load and without lag. I have found myself a few times starting to climb a hill in the wrong gear and unable to shift under load, which brings me to a stop.

    I have found, though, that I like my granny gear. Steep hills may take all day to climb but I can climb them without dismounting in most cases.

    The 8" front brake really has stopping power and modulation - I didn't really know what to expect but I am happy with that choice.
    ...
    The Marzocchi AM1 has alot of adjustments and options. Maybe too many. I started off with it set at about 110mm but decided to ramp it out to 130mm during the ride. The lockout function came in VERY handy on the Tilden wall climbs although I didn't use it the previous ride at Mt. Diablo. The lockout lever location on the left fork is fairly easy to use.

    There's also some kind of adjustment on the right side top that allows the resistance to be made stiffer at full length. Not sure what it's called but if I turn it CCW it is good for really rough terrain and the more I turn it CW, the more resistance it gives for smoother surfaces during descent.

    I also picked up a used Marathon SL 105 recently. I am thinking to install the shorter fork and change the frame settings on the tracer to the 4" lower BB link setting and the longer chainstay to lower the geometry and make it more stable during descent. ..
    Brake Jack usually refers to single pivot designs when the suspension is no longer active on braking. The rear usually sags down. You had brake dive from a fork that was too soft. Try increasing the air pressure on your right hand side, under the TST knob, to increase stiffness for proper sag (~20%) and adjust the right hand TST knob to middle range for medium stiffness. Indeed full CCW to the DS setting makes it very soft for big hits like curbs and rock gardens, usually in DH, and full CW to CL locks it out -which I never use except on paved road. For normal riding, I use the TST in the middle XC setting. The "lockout" ETA lever on the left is great for climbing up steep hills. It lowers the front a lot for handling and reduces bobbing with only 1-2" of travel, perfect for steep climbs.

    I'll never go back to 6" disks. The 8" brakes on my AM1 are super.

    For chain suck, try White Lightning. Works for me.

    The Shimano Rapid Rise (low normal) allows shifting under full power, as it shifts using the weaker spring load only at the "hyperglide" point designed to handle the shift, rather than where you push hard. I used to easily break chains when shifting under load with the old high-normal system, but never now, even standing on the cranks under full power with my size.
    It's not slow, it's doing more MTB time.

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    3rd day today, tomorrow will be four. I will try to keep up the pace of 3-4 times a week. It will be hard since I live a whopping 1.4 miles away. But I have been riding to school, shopping, and the liq. I have logged 42 miles in three days and the Subaru has gone into hibernation. F the oil companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg
    Dude, you can't do that to me. You and I are supposed to be the slow ones. If you start getting fast, then I'll really look bad being the only slow guy. So listen to your team captain: drink more beer!!
    It's after 6pm... work days over. I'm takin' care of that for you right now JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM
    WTF!!! That sucks... My commute was 15 miles each way...now What route do y'all take?
    At Curtner, hop over to Bird via Almaden Rd and then cut over on the street where the elks lodge is right by the Tamien Station. There, you can hop back on the trail.

    Yes, sucks. Hopefully they are fixing the bike path right there. It's the section of the trail that has sunk like a foot or more. I'm not exaggerating.
    Can we talk tires now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    Brake Jack usually refers to single pivot designs when the suspension is no longer active on braking. The rear usually sags down. You had brake dive from a fork that was too soft. Try increasing the air pressure on your right hand side, under the TST knob, to increase stiffness for proper sag (~20%) and adjust the right hand TST knob to middle range for medium stiffness. Indeed full CCW to the DS setting makes it very soft for big hits like curbs and rock gardens, usually in DH, and full CW to CL locks it out -which I never use except on paved road. For normal riding, I use the TST in the middle XC setting. The "lockout" ETA lever on the left is great for climbing up steep hills. It lowers the front a lot for handling and reduces bobbing with only 1-2" of travel, perfect for steep climbs.
    Sounds about right. I have my sag set at about 20-30% but I think it was mostly due to having the TST set too soft. I rode around the Canal Trail and Hidden Lakes in Martinez with Becky yesterday afternoon and fooled around with the settings some more. With the TST set in the middle setting, it is great for most rutted dirt trails and all the way clockwise for the Canal Trail.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    I'll never go back to 6" disks. The 8" brakes on my AM1 are super.
    I don't think I'm going to convert my hard tails to an 8" front, but on this bike it's perfect.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigLarry
    For chain suck, try White Lightning. Works for me.

    The Shimano Rapid Rise (low normal) allows shifting under full power, as it shifts using the weaker spring load only at the "hyperglide" point designed to handle the shift, rather than where you push hard. I used to easily break chains when shifting under load with the old high-normal system, but never now, even standing on the cranks under full power with my size.
    I don't think my chain suck and mis shifting was due to a use or lack of use of lube but more just getting used to the dynamic shifting change. Needing to expect to shift before the hill - shift early, shift often - or so they say.

    I've got an XTR rear der and cassette on my cyclocross bike and have never had a problem shifting under load or breaking chains (knock on wood), even standing on hill climbs so perhaps you are right about that.

    As for my Tracer drivetrain components, I bought all LX and SRAM cheapo grouppo for my initial build. I'll replace things as I need to and maybe I'll get better parts as I go. Maybe, I'll be so sick of derailleurs that I'll break down and buy another Rohloff. We'll have to see.

    Thanks for all of the advice!
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    hey he made the choice..

    i've got better things to do with my time..

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    Does that mean...

    Quote Originally Posted by zorg
    ... turns out that the guy was watching porn on his dashboard.
    He drive a STICK?

    Ba dump ba!

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    Chainsuck....

    ... is a lot more common on smaller cogs. The reason it hasn't happened on you CX bike is probably due to the fact that the granny on the CX is a 26 or 28 tooth, not the 22t on your InTents.

    Over on the weight weenie board, some of those guys are running 20t on compact 5 arm cranks and a road cassette in back to save weight (lighter cogset, lighter rings, a few links less chain). They say it works, but you have to be careful about chainsuck, since it happens really easily.

    Usually, when you get chainsuck, it is due to crud in the chain packing into the teeth of the chiainrings, making the chain stick to the ring more. Shifting from middle to granny under load makes is usually what starts chainsuck. A dry or crusty chain makes it suck as well.

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    No commuting today, but I got a quick ride in this morning (6 to 7) before work. I feel much better now.
    Faster is not always better, but it's always more fun

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