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    Long Canyon, March 3, 2015

    Rode the entire loop today.

    Long Canyon, March 3, 2015-14517585321_dd254a7e84_c.jpg

    Almost clipped a Bald Eagle with the Jeep on the drive in.

    Up the canyon and climbed to the ridge above Cache Creek.
    Dropped the ridge line back to the Jeep.
    Didn't see any bears this time.

    Long Canyon Trail

    https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=117...%203%2C%202015

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    Seems like winter and spring are the riding seasons there. Nice!

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    I missed a turn. Need to go back.
    Got tomorrow - Thursday, March 5 off.
    Anyone want to ride Long Canyon?

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    what type of riding surface is this? Is it single track, fire road, firm, mushy, technical steep hills? I have heard of it before but I am having a hard time visualizing where it is at. Is it near the Cache Creek Indian Casino, or somewhere else? I am in Vacaville and looking for some new places to ride, about how far of a drive would it be. Can I drive there in a car, or do you need a truck/jeep/four wheel drive to get there? A lot of questions, I know, but thanks for any input you can give me.

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    It's an old road, which by now is mostly trail/single track. Some double track.
    For not having any traffic, it is quite firm and super smooth.
    Nothing technical.
    The route is about 10 miles round trip.
    Just over 1000' of vertical gain to the head of the canyon.

    Located north of Lake Berryessa on Berryessa/Knoxville Rd.
    Long Canyon Trail

    The road is pretty rough but paved. Multiple creek crossings -
    cement 'bridges' that span the creek, but the water flows over.
    Easily drivable with any vehicle. Just don't bring a low-rider.
    Impassable during floods.

    From Vacaville, it's about a 1 hr. drive. It would be a lovely drive
    to head north on Pleasant Valley Rd. to Putah Creek.
    Then head up the west side of the lake.

    PM me for more info.

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    The scenery is breath taking.

    Huge views








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    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing, Jib.

    -D

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    So I went back yesterday and rode the section that I missed.
    I had cut over to the entrance trail too soon.
    I missed the last section of downhill.

    Won't be missing this next time.

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    Jibmaster, thanks for the info

    I wonder if there is any access to this area from Hwy 16 near Guinda or Rumsey? It would save me from having to drive all the way around the lake and I could hit up the buffet at Cache Creek Casino afterwards.

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    I've been wanting to connect up with the Fiske Creek Trail that starts off from
    Cache Creek at the low water bridge.
    http://www.tuleyome.org/images/stories/blueridge.pdf

    You might be able to get in this way
    http://www.tuleyome.org/images/stories/road53.pdf

    Let me know what you find.

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    Didn't some hiker, disappear in that area last summer. Did they ever find him?

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    Not sure about last summer, but I did find this
    Missing Lake Solano Hiker Rescued in Rugged Terrain | Dixon, CA Patch

    A charging boar could do some damage.
    As well as surprising a bear.
    I carry bear spray.

    Last summer:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/california-no...-a-919880.html

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    Hi Jibmaster, I've been telemarking at Lassen instead of riding. Snow is almost gone already! I am curious, however, about the legality of riding in the open space around long canyon and zim zim falls. Searching the fish and wildlife regulations, I found a provision limiting bicycle use to "roads" within the wildlife area. I could find no definition of "Road" in the fish and wildlife regulations or statutes. The definition of road that should therefore be controlling is the definition of "road" in the State vehicle code:

    "527. (a) "Road" means any existing vehicle route established before
    January 1, 1979, with significant evidence of prior regular travel
    by vehicles subject to registration pursuant to Article 1 (commencing
    with Section 4000) of Chapter 1 of Division 3; provided, that "road"
    does not mean any route traversed exclusively by bicycles as defined
    in Section 39001, motorcycles as defined in Section 400,
    motor-driven cycles as defined in Section 405, or off-highway motor
    vehicles as defined in Section 38012.
    (b) Even though nature may alter or eliminate portions of an
    existing vehicle route, the route shall still be considered a road
    where there is evidence of periodic use.
    (c) A vehicle route need not necessarily be a publicly or
    privately maintained surface to be a road, as defined, for purposes
    of this section. Nothing contained herein shall pertain to any
    property in an incorporated area or properties held in private
    ownership.
    (d) This section is definitional only and nothing contained herein
    shall be deemed to affect, alter, create, or destroy any right,
    title, or interest in real property, including, but not limited to,
    any permit, license, or easement; nor shall this chapter be deemed to
    affect the liability, or lack thereof, of any owner of an interest
    of real property based upon the use, possession, or ownership of such
    interest in real property or the entry upon such property by any
    person.
    (e) This section shall only apply in a county where the board of
    supervisors has adopted a resolution or enacted an ordinance
    providing for such application."

    Clear as mud. However, the fish and wildlife folks do drive registered vehicles on the roads and fire roads in the wildlife area and the roads were clearly made originally for vehicles including fire vehicles. There is clearly a good argument for the old ranch roads and fire roads being "roads" under state law.

    Have you done any research or talked with any of the fish and wildlife wardens about this area? I've hiked much or it and it would make great MTB country but I suspect that fish and wildlife wants to make this pretty much a hunting area exclusively - that would actually violate the terms under which the management of the Napa ranch was delegated to fish and wildlife and would, I feel, violate the wording of the initiative that purchased the land. Unfortunately, I'm neither a lawyer or rich enough to buy into the justice system.

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    I have spoken with the folks at Tuleyome before about biking the trails.
    Board of Directors & Staff
    They did not have a problem with it.

    ...Actually, I just got off the phone with Andrew Fulks - the president of Tuleyome.

    I asked him specifically about riding BPT, Zim Zim Falls and Long Canyon.
    He told me it is perfectly legal.
    The only trails that are not legal for a mt. bike are the ones located
    in the Cache Creek Wilderness.

    But thank you for bringing up the legal aspect. It is important to know.

    So, now that that has been cleared up - I will continue to post TR's about this area.
    My dream of connecting Long Canyon with the Fiske Creek trails to Cache Creek
    will happen. Although he did say that some of those trails might be a little grown over.

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    Nice job on Lassen telemike! The snow looks rather thin - so we are headed for Shasta
    on Mon/Tue.
    I have this next Thursday free. If anyone wants to hook up, I'll be out riding the Tuleyome trails.
    Anyone game?

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    Here is a link to the missing man I was thinking about, It was on the Hwy 16 side of the ridge.
    Vanishing Man: The Disappearance of Rico Harris

    What type of level of rider are you Jibmaster? I am somewhat slow, not somewhat, I am slow, but the Long Ridge looks like a ride I could do. I am free Thursday, but we are expecting some rain on Wednesday.

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    If you start from the next parking lot to the north of long canyon (on the Knoxville road) and follow the road to the north when it hits a second road along a creek, you will climb until you hit the ridge road that branches off of rayhouse road. Fiske creek trail is at the bottom of the hill immediately to the east.

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    Thanx telemike. Would that be Knoxville Yolo Rd? I was thinking of connecting the top of
    Long Canyon with the top of Blue Ridge and the Fiske Creek trails.
    But that is just a theory...

    Lambow - I would never win a race, but I enjoy 5-10 hour rides.
    That being said...however:
    I used to be faster, but I had nerve damage/injury; right side - neck, shoulder, arm, hand and fingers - that put me on the couch for almost 4 months straight this past Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan. And to top it all off, I broke a rib in January.
    Zero movement, loss of strength, no work - gained 25 pounds.

    Started riding and backcountry skiing again in February 2015.
    Have been doing 1-1.5 hour riding sessions locally, several times a week.
    With increasing frequency/intensity.
    Lost 20 pounds and starting to feel like myself again.
    Still pretty slow.
    I'm pretty sure anyone could kick my ass right now...
    ...that will change!

    You will have no problem keeping up with me.

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    You get to these trailheads from the Beryessa Knoxville Road from Rt 128 from the south or from Clearlake via Morgan Valley from the north. The trailhead that accesses the top of the Fiske Creek Road is about 1 mile (and the toe of a ridge) beyond the corral that marks the Long Canyon trailhead.

    Following this and always going north and east (and up) will eventually take you to fiske creek road where it drops down into the Fiske Creek drainage. The road then passes the fiske creek trailhead (sketchy) and climbs to deadend at the southen trailhead for the Blue Ridge Trail. You could ride either and return via Yolo county road 40 to the fiske creek road and back.

    You could. I could too if I have three days and a sagwagon!

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